Klydo New Homepage

[Klydo]

Okay, this is the new homepage design of Klydo. It includes the new header and footer along with the featured member. However I'm in need of possible ideas for what to display as well as ideas on how to display the items. So far our plan is to display;
New Members
New Music
New Videos
New Blogs
New Skins
Latest Klydo NewsIf you have any please share and comment on the new design :)

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Edited by Nick- (Forum Administrator): Please do not post pictures containing images of other members. I understand this was unintentional and accidental which is why only the image has been removed.

[Swearwolf]

nice one greg i really like this. i will definitely sign up :p

[Hypertext]

You like your threads, dontcha =)

Looking good, maybe don't have all those new things as sometimes it gets overwhelming like myspace homepage. Maybe just have latest: videos, members, and news.

[Kieran]

Possibly some kind of moveabale javascript window to display the latest news? That can be closed and dragged around the site.

Well done so far, it's looking nice!

[Klydo]

Possibly some kind of moveabale javascript window to display the latest news? That can be closed and dragged around the site.

Well done so far, it's looking nice!
We do have an announcements bar which appears at the top of the site that can be closed after reading if that's what you meant?

[today]

Appears too white to me, add a light colour maybe blue or red either way.

[Kieran]

What I mean is:

A box that comes up showing some information that can be dragged around the main page and also closed.

[Klydo]

What I mean is:

A box that comes up showing some information that can be dragged around the main page and also closed.
Hmmm, I hate those things on other sites. So I wouldn't put that onto my site to annoy my members :P

Appears too white to me, add a light colour maybe blue or red either way.
We can't really add any colours to the content as the header can be made any colour the user wants. So we have to aviod coloured content as it will mismatch with the header :P

[Kieran]

Possibly just a stripe somewhere that changes colour the same as the header? Just to break the whiteness up.

[iTech]

Loving it, are you going to add "New skins"?

:) Gl with it Greg!

[Klydo]

Possibly just a stripe somewhere that changes colour the same as the header? Just to break the whiteness up.
That can't be done unfortunately. As that would involve editing two hex codes instead of one.

[rawritsluke]

I don't like the header font, e.g dashboard, doesn't go with the site, other than that, nice.

[Klydo]

I don't like the header font, e.g dashboard, doesn't go with the site, other than that, nice.
It's the same font as the logo, therefore it does :P

[Invent]

I don't like the header font, e.g dashboard, doesn't go with the site, other than that, nice.

Agreed.

[Klydo]

Agreed.
Disagreed, as it matches the logo.

[Kieran]

I like that font xP

[Florx]

I dislike the font used in the nav. It just doesn't fit.

[Klydo]

Nav font won't be changed since it matches the logo which is in the same section of the site. Therefore you can stop commenting on it. It matches perfectly.

[Invent]

Nav font won't be changed since it matches the logo which is in the same section of the site. Therefore you can stop commenting on it. It matches perfectly.

Obviously it matches the logo, but it doesn't look good.

[Klydo]

Obviously it matches the logo, but it doesn't look good.
It looks great, if you think it doesn't then you obviously aren't up to scratch with new web design.

[Invent]

It looks great, if you think it doesn't then you obviously aren't up to scratch with new web design.

:rolleyes:

My god.

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[Florx]

Lets put it this way.

"The customer is always right."

Therefore change the font or no I won't stop going on about it.

Shame I had to throw it down in laymens terms because the rest of the design is great! To be honest get rid of the advert and put some music updates on there but I wouldn't put any more on because it overloads the site.

The top bar looks ace apart from the text. Good designing! Keep it up + change the goddamn text.

[Klydo]

Text is staying, it the best looking there is. Arial looks awful, Verdana even worse, Trebuchet MS still not good, Georgia is okay but not as good as it as atm. So I won't be changing the font since it's the best looking.

[Hypertext]

Nav font won't be changed since it matches the logo which is in the same section of the site. Therefore you can stop commenting on it. It matches perfectly.
Humble :rolleyes:

[Florx]

Oh so i'm wrong now?

I thought web design was all about opinion. Seems you are only listening to the opinions you want to hear.

Why don't you post the image with some other fonts on so we can SEE how they look rather than you bully us into thinking you are right all the time?

[Klydo]

As I'm not wasting time making new fonted buttons when I know they are awful. They were originally Arial and it looked awful.

[Hypertext]

@JH: Agreed.

Greg you are only accepting comments that are good?

And dismissing all bad ones with "I'm right and it does do ___".

EDIT: LOL GREG - It looks ok but not amazing... take some criticism.

[Klydo]

@JH: Agreed.

Greg you are only accepting comments that are good?

And dismissing all bad ones with "I'm right and it does do ___".

EDIT: LOL GREG - It looks ok but not amazing... take some criticism.
No I'm simply not changing something which doesn't need to be when I know it looks bad with other fonts. So please move onto what this thread is about, the homepage content.

[Hypertext]

"klydo new homepage", the font is in the homepage.

If you don't want to accept criticism, when you open half the people on this forum won't like the fonts, still.

[rawritsluke]

Okay I'm going to be harsh here because you need it. The header text looks like a heap of ****, you need to let that install into your brain greg. Change the font of risk losing users?

[Klydo]

No Charlie just leave lol...

I'm accepting it but I know it looks awful with other fonts. So no point me going and trying new fonts when I know they're awful wasting my time. Also Luke, it looks great. Now please move onto the homepage design not the header design :) If you don't like the font don't use the site when it opens, simple as. It's only people on here who dislike it as they follow like sheep.

[rawritsluke]

No Charlie just leave lol...

I'm accepting it but I know it looks awful with other fonts. So no point me going and trying new fonts when I know they're awful wasting my time.

Also Luke, it looks great.

Now please move onto the homepage design not the header design :)
You tell everyone else to accept c and c but you don't? Your a hypocrite greg. Please, just let us see some other header designs atleast as we will be the people using your site?

[Klydo]

You tell everyone else to accept c and c but you don't? Your a hypocrite greg. Please, just let us see some other header designs atleast as we will be the people using your site?
I'm not changing the font, waste my time. If you want to prove me wrong then try but you guys do the editing. As I'm not wasting my time when I know the outcome.

[rawritsluke]

What the blue color? (hex)

[Marcinator]

Nice one!

[Hypertext]

Try Geneva. Greg stop being so hypocritical.

[Klydo]

Lol, Charlie you can't know the real meaning of that word if you're using it to describe me now lol....

Arial
http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc241/Awfy/Klydo/Picture3.png

Just boring and plain... :S

[rawritsluke]

Not being funny but I actually like this, maybe make it bolder or up a size, put the text closer it will look nice.

http://i30.tinypic.com/24wh91l.png

[Agnostic Bear]

Agreed.

Yeah I'm going with Simon here, as I said before, Trajan Pro is a far superior choice to what you have now.

Have a Trajan Pro "thing"

http://uploadpicz.com/images/P3TLZD7.png

[Klydo]

Yeah I'm going with Simon here, as I said before, Trajan Pro is a far superior choice to what you have now.
Trajan Pro is the worst font I've seen, on par with Comic Sans.

[rawritsluke]

Yeah I'm going with Simon here, as I said before, Trajan Pro is a far superior choice to what you have now.
No point, he won't give in even when he's wrong he won't admit it.

[Klydo]

No point, he won't give in even when he's wrong he won't admit it.
Luke, are you blind? I posted a version using Arial and as you can see it looks awful...

[Florx]

OK so you tried arial. And thats an improvement so lets see another...

TREBUCHET MS PL0X

[rawritsluke]

Luke, are you blind? I posted a version using Arial and as you can see it looks awful...
No, I can see perfectly well thanks, did I say use arial? Just experiment with fonts greg. Do something to match the fonts on klydo, the header looks nice if the other fonts were in the same font family but they aren't so it doesn't "fit-in". Atleast try greg because I know your all about perfection.

[Agnostic Bear]

Yeah I'm going with Simon here, as I said before, Trajan Pro is a far superior choice to what you have now.

Have a Trajan Pro "thing"

http://uploadpicz.com/images/P3TLZD7.png

Let me remind you:

http://uploadpicz.com/images/P3TLZD7.png

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[Klydo]

Dan it's disgusting lmao...

[Florx]

Haha, Greg just try it and see. He will not shut up till you do neither will I.

[Hypertext]

Trajan Pro is ok, but I don't like it enough. Try Trebuchet MS, in my opinion its very nice.

[Agnostic Bear]

Or Segoe UI, that's a pretty pro font.

[Klydo]

I'm not changing the navigation font. If you dislike it don't use the site when it opens. End of discussion.

[Florx]

discussion* and no it's not the end till the arguing party stops.

Prove us wrong. Test out the fonts we suggested. We are 'Having our say' here so stop repressing us.

If you don't want criticism don't put it on a forum.

[rawritsluke]

Trebuchet actually looks nice.

[Klydo]

So what's people's thoughts on what we should display on the homepage?

[Agnostic Bear]

I'm not changing the navigation font. If you dislike it don't use the site when it opens. End of discussion.

Bam, get a bit of criticism and you start kicking up a ****storm, you asked for it, you got it, you didn't like it. Now get out. Looks like if you're gonna be doing that 0 people will view your site, enjoy your 0 views.

[Klydo]

Bam, get a bit of criticism and you start kicking up a ****storm, you asked for it, you got it, you didn't like it. Now get out. Looks like if you're gonna be doing that 0 people will view your site, enjoy your 0 views.
So you think the boxes should have rounded edges? Same here...

[Agnostic Bear]

So you think the boxes should have rounded edges? Same here...

Obviously :eusa_eh:

[Invent]

Greg, this is the first time me and Dan are agreeing on something. UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS.

[rawritsluke]

Greg man are you just looking for a hate thread? This is why alot of people dislike you on HxF, you can dish it out all fancy but when someone gives it back you react with your idiotic attitude that your always right.

I have new for you greggy, your not right, your wrong, WE are right. The font you have used DOES NOT look good with the rest of the website, WE are your viewers therefore we should have some input on the WHOLE site not just a homepage surely give us that?

[Klydo]

So thoughts on what we should display then?

[rawritsluke]

So thoughts on what we should display then?
Trebuchet MS on the header.

[Klydo]

So thoughts on what we should display within the content area on the homepage?

[Florx]

Just don't post in any of his threads any more if he is going to ignore what we actually say.

[rawritsluke]

So thoughts on what we should display within the content area on the homepage?
Text, text, and some more text.

@JH - I won't stop until my opinion is heard ;) Greg knows this :P

[Agnostic Bear]

Greg, this is the first time me and Dan are agreeing on something. UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS.

Hey I will agree if I have something to agree on :P

[Klydo]

Text, text, and some more text.

@JH - I won't stop until my opinion is heard ;) Greg knows this :P

However if I make the content all text it will be boring and plain.

[Florx]

Well I think that in the content area you should .... with a ... and maybe get rid off ... because its ....

Oh, I will fill in the blanks WHEN you change the font on the header or show us some other examples.

Don't be so stubborn.

[rawritsluke]

However if I make the content all text it will be boring and plain.
You've achieved that already, boring I mean.

[Klydo]

Well I think that in the content area you should .... with a ... and maybe get rid off ... because its ....

Oh, I will fill in the blanks WHEN you change the font on the header or show us some other examples.

Don't be so stubborn.
Nice, nice but wouldn't we need 3 camels then?

[Agnostic Bear]

When you fail to listen to the D&D community they turn on you, enjoy being turned on.

[Florx]

The 56'ers will get ya.

[rawritsluke]

Greg your an egotistical **** at times, you used to be alright you know. Anyway, I must be off, goodbye.

[Florx]

Cya. :)

Just change the font.

[Agnostic Bear]

When you fail to listen to the D&D community they turn on you, enjoy being turned on.

No wait scrap that all the kiddies are going to bed.

[Florx]

I'm going no where.

Change the font.

[Dentafrice]

Lets put it this way.

"The customer is always right."

Therefore change the font or no I won't stop going on about it.

Shame I had to throw it down in laymens terms because the rest of the design is great! To be honest get rid of the advert and put some music updates on there but I wouldn't put any more on because it overloads the site.

The top bar looks ace apart from the text. Good designing! Keep it up + change the goddamn text.


@JH: Agreed.

Greg you are only accepting comments that are good?

And dismissing all bad ones with "I'm right and it does do ___".

EDIT: LOL GREG - It looks ok but not amazing... take some criticism.


You tell everyone else to accept c and c but you don't? Your a hypocrite greg. Please, just let us see some other header designs atleast as we will be the people using your site?

Okay, i've heard enough.

If your going to complain about C+C all the time, why not actually post some Constructive Criticism?

I'm not all "for" the font myself, but I don't complain as I am working on something that will change the site for individual users.

Why not suggest some fonts instead of saying "change the font" over and over.

You don't understand that we have changed the font, over and over, and nothing looks better then that at the current moment.

If you actually want to post some constructive criticism, why not post the names of fonts, and maybe a link to them? (Not Trajan w/e Pro. I just tried that, looks awful dan :P.)

The header can already be changed by users to a color of their choice, and I am working on a font system that you can change the headers with a TTF font. There will be a library of them for you to choose from.

I am currently working on the video system, which in my opinion works great, and integrates into the YouTube system, which not many sites do, no.. not the Chromeless player either.

Hopefully this cleared at least something up :rolleyes:.

Hope yall have a nice night.

[Agnostic Bear]

Okay, i've heard enough.

If your going to complain about C+C all the time, why not actually post some Constructive Criticism?

I'm not all "for" the font myself, but I don't complain as I am working on something that will change the site for individual users.

Why not suggest some fonts instead of saying "change the font" over and over.

You don't understand that we have changed the font, over and over, and nothing looks better then that at the current moment.

If you actually want to post some constructive criticism, why not post the names of fonts, and maybe a link to them? (Not Trajan w/e Pro. I just tried that, looks awful dan :P.)

The header can already be changed by users to a color of their choice, and I am working on a font system that you can change the headers with a TTF font. There will be a library of them for you to choose from.

I am currently working on the video system, which in my opinion works great, and integrates into the YouTube system, which not many sites do, no.. not the Chromeless player either.

Hopefully this cleared at least something up :rolleyes:.

Hope yall have a nice night.

You can talk, one minute you say you're fed up with Klydo + Greg the next minute you're kissing his ***.

[Dentafrice]

You can talk, one minute you say you're fed up with Klydo + Greg the next minute you're kissing his ***.
I was fed up, and got over it.

I just agree with him? Just like you agree with Simon.

I don't have to kiss his ***, you kiss *** when your in a position that is lower then him/her.

We are both on the same level.. so neither one of us has to kiss each other's ***.

I could easily make an executive decision on what to do, but I am following Greg's design choices as I am **** at design, as most people know :D.

[Hypertext]

I suggested Geneva and Trebuchet MS, both constructively. So don't get on my ***.

[Agnostic Bear]

I was fed up, and got over it.

I just agree with him? Just like you agree with Simon.

I don't have to kiss his ***, you kiss *** when your in a position that is lower then him/her.

We are both on the same level.. so neither one of us has to kiss each other's ***.

I could easily make an executive decision on what to do, but I am following Greg's design choices as I am **** at design, as most people know :D.

I kiss no ***, I troll. I troll this forum, I troll you, I troll Simon, I troll Greg, I troll life.

[Dentafrice]

I suggested Geneva and Trebuchet MS, both constructively. So don't get on my ***.
I just tried them, Trebuchet doesn't look right with any background, looks too... plain in my opinion.

Geneva is downloading, as it didn't come with my version of PS.

@Dan:

http://www.villiard.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/lol-cats.jpg

[Agnostic Bear]

I just tried them, Trebuchet doesn't look right with any background, looks too... plain in my opinion.

Geneva is downloading, as it didn't come with my version of PS.

@Dan:

http://www.villiard.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/lol-cats.jpg

Goddamnit that's the first thing that's made me laugh today.

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[Hypertext]

LOL, and geneva might look good.

[rawritsluke]

Denta, we are giving constructive criticism, just greg got on his high horse once again and started acting like he's the boss. A few of us suggested fonts which greg even tried.. Heck I even edited the header myself.

[wewt]

Arial looked bad because your kerning was crap. Besides, use Helvetica.

[Josh-H]

Can I just ask a quick question.

How are you going about the music bit.. you're getting licenses from the 5 major record labels I presume...? Right..? As otherwise its illegal. And by way, they won't be handing on a license easy.

[Dentafrice]

The music bit is handled by way of artists upload their own songs, or users using custom MP3 players from sites like http://www.myflashfetish.com

[rawritsluke]

Yeah, I don't think greg or caleb are that stupid enough to use copyright music :P

[Meti]

Really nice.

[Dentafrice]

Yeah, I don't think greg or caleb are that stupid enough to use copyright music :P

:P Yeah we are going to upload our LimeWire libraries :P

[Klydo]

All music is uploaded by it's original creator. Anyone uploading then takes full responsibility for the audio they've uploaded. If anyone is found uploading audio they didn't make/have full copyright permissions to then the account will be deleted and possibly further actions taken if the problem persists.

[rawritsluke]

:P Yeah we are going to upload our LimeWire libraries :P LMAO! Would it actually be allowed if you uploaded your iTunes library tho as your paying for music then?

[Dentafrice]

LMAO! Would it actually be allowed if you uploaded your iTunes library tho as your paying for music then?
No, read the iTunes license :(

[Klydo]

LMAO! Would it actually be allowed if you uploaded your iTunes library tho as your paying for music then?
No, any music which is planned to be publically played needs to be either played by it's creator/copyright owner or played with a license. Therefore if the creator/copyright owner uploads it's then legal if someone else does it's illegal

[rawritsluke]

Just do what myspace do :P Let your users upload the copyright music instead xD

[Dentafrice]

Users can't upload the copyrighted music, unless him/her are the band.

You can put flash media players on your page, from places like http://www.myflashfetish.com though.

[rawritsluke]

Users can't upload the copyrighted music, unless him/her are the band.

You can put flash media players on your page, from places like http://www.myflashfetish.com though.
Well will still work out fine as they can put music on their pages.

[Klydo]

Our music database obviously won't have big names on it from the start, however we will work on getting a larger database. I've been speaking to some of the smaller or unsigned bands from places like PureVolume and MySpace to get them to sign up. A lot are interested.

[rawritsluke]

Ahh I see but somewhere you might want to introduce up-to-date music :P

[gesiwuj]

http://www.justupload.net/uploads/43041208klydo.png

^^ I'm not a fan of the Cooper-style typeface in the navigation so I tried Georgia and although not perfect, it seems quite satisfactory (for three minutes' work... you could fiddle with the kerning and size a little).

The obvious advantage to this is that being a web-safe font, Georgia can be used confidently as actual text as opposed to the old-fashioned image button technique that not only wastes bandwidth and increases loading times for the user; but hinders usability and accessibility.

The Arial was fine, anyway... a thousand miles better than the Cooper-style typeface. And Trajan Pro is a good typeface (although admittedly overused and wouldn't be suitable and relevant for this project)!

Also, I'm not sure about you, but I'm not an expert enough iconographer to use icons without any textual description or label. I had trouble identifying just where a few of the icons would lead me, and I'm sure a less savvy web user would have even more trouble!

So far I managed to identify from left to right: network? (definitely not intuitive for non-web users), friends/parental controls, favourites?, help/support, close window?.

Also, I fail to see how you hate Arial/Helvetica with a passion for the header (where the mockup shown is surprisingly suitable) but is used in the section below where it looks bland and uninteresting.

The text in the top section is far too small and the mid-grey on light-grey has very little contrast. Plus, being an italicised sans-serif that hinders legibility further.

Where's any search functionality? Today's web users demand quick access to data (of whichever form) and having no search on the main page is just a detraction.

The advert is obtrustive, irrelevant and takes up space that could be used for something useful. May I suggest you review your revenue sources as Google Ads are certainly not the best earners!

In full, a mediocre design... not bad but tediously bland and unexciting (the opposite you want with the young demographic you're undoubtedly aiming at).

Finally, please learn to take criticism, Mr. Cooper! These forum members are only trying to help by suggesting that the navigation font is a bad choice (and in my opinion they are correct)... they are only trying to undermine your design 'skill' if that's how arrogant and ego-tastic you are.

You are not an invincible, amazing designer (neither am I) so please don't act like one. Take the feedback like a man, and better yourself and design skill by embracing it.

Thankyou.

P.S. The CAPTCHAs on this site are incredibly frustrating... it took me about twelve attempts to get in. I'm sure it's better to let a bot in once or twice than keep ten times as many contributing users out.

Perhaps you could consider a system such as reCAPTCHA, although I'm not sure how well that would integrate into a closed vBulletin.

[Dentafrice]

http://www.justupload.net/uploads/43041208klydo.png

^^ I'm not a fan of the Cooper-style typeface in the navigation so I tried Georgia and although not perfect, it seems quite satisfactory (for three minutes' work... you could fiddle with the kerning and size a little).

The obvious advantage to this is that being a web-safe font, Georgia can be used confidently as actual text as opposed to the old-fashioned image button technique that not only wastes bandwidth and increases loading times for the user; but hinders usability and accessibility.

The Arial was fine, anyway... a thousand miles better than the Cooper-style typeface. And Trajan Pro is a good typeface (although admittedly overused and wouldn't be suitable and relevant for this project)!

Also, I'm not sure about you, but I'm not an expert enough iconographer to use icons without any textual description or label. I had trouble identifying just where a few of the icons would lead me, and I'm sure a less savvy web user would have even more trouble!

So far I managed to identify from left to right: network? (definitely not intuitive for non-web users), friends/parental controls, favourites?, help/support, close window?.

Also, I fail to see how you hate Arial/Helvetica with a passion for the header (where the mockup shown is surprisingly suitable) but is used in the section below where it looks bland and uninteresting.

The text in the top section is far too small and the mid-grey on light-grey has very little contrast. Plus, being an italicised sans-serif that hinders legibility further.

Where's any search functionality? Today's web users demand quick access to data (of whichever form) and having no search on the main page is just a detraction.

The advert is obtrustive, irrelevant and takes up space that could be used for something useful. May I suggest you review your revenue sources as Google Ads are certainly not the best earners!

In full, a mediocre design... not bad but tediously bland and unexciting (the opposite you want with the young demographic you're undoubtedly aiming at).

Finally, please learn to take criticism, Mr. Cooper! These forum members are only trying to help by suggesting that the navigation font is a bad choice (and in my opinion they are correct)... they are only trying to undermine your design 'skill' if that's how arrogant and ego-tastic you are.

You are not an invincible, amazing designer (neither am I) so please don't act like one. Take the feedback like a man, and better yourself and design skill by embracing it.

Thankyou.

P.S. The CAPTCHAs on this site are incredibly frustrating... it took me about twelve attempts to get in. I'm sure it's better to let a bot in once or twice than keep ten times as many contributing users out.

Perhaps you could consider a system such as reCAPTCHA, although I'm not sure how well that would integrate into a closed vBulletin.
We don't have any captchas on our system, and it is not run by vBulletin, nor any system that is not developed by us.

So what are you talking about?



So far I managed to identify from left to right: network? (definitely not intuitive for non-web users), friends/parental controls, favourites?, help/support, close window?.

The icons, when rolled over, display a tooltip with their action.

The Network Icon is for Administrators. Network Control.
The two people is account management.
Heart is favorites.
? is help and support.
X is logout.


The advert is obtrustive, irrelevant and takes up space that could be used for something useful. May I suggest you review your revenue sources as Google Ads are certainly not the best earners!

What useful things could be there then?

We are currently looking into other revenue sources, and at this current time Google AdSense seems to be the best thing for us.

To remove the ads, users can purchase the premium membership :)

[Florx]

He is talking about signing up to HxF.