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danandthe3gifts
12-04-2008, 12:29 PM
Getting banned for giving your opinion?
You can never get banned for giving your opinion. Only Habbox staff can get fired (not banned) for publicly posting complaints about other Habbox staff. When a Habbox staff member has a problem with some part of Habbox he has to contact a Manager privately and not post about it for everybody to see. These are the same rules that hold for hobbas on Habbo for example, they are also not allowed to comment on the behaviour of other (bad) hobbas.
You can and probably will get banned for being offensive to anybody else, especially a Habbox staff member. Being offensive includes calling somebody an idiot, moron, saying somebody is pathetic or anything else that is generally accepted as being offensive.
You might get banned for breaking the word filter. Normally you only get asked not to do it anymore by PM, but if it is clear that you are breaking the word filter on purpose while you know this is against the forum rules you usually get a 7 days ban.
If you cannot express your opinion without being offensive as described above or avoiding the word filter or swearing I think you have a problem. DO NOT confuse freedom of speech with the right to swear / to be offensive. These are two very different things!
My opinion was negative yes, yet the question still remains why have I been banned which according to your rules states will never happen.
It says there I can say what I want as long as I don't call anyone names, which last night - I didn't. The reason you gave for banning -:undertaker:- was for being 'negative'. Isn't that the whole point of a forum? A forum is where different ideas and people will talk/debate/discuss what they think. I have had a reasonably clean record, I wonder if Immenseman is going to be banned for being too 'positive' in the ione Gifts thread. Surely if you feel they aren't super rares, you should be able to defend your reasons? - or are you the spineless cowards you seem to act like?
I don't want this moved thanks, like my last thread a few weeks ago was ignored. If you look in the spam thread about my ban, you will see even people who didn't always agree with me still think it's pathetic, yet again it seems like you are outnumbered? - Are you going to ban them for being to negative about your rules?
Edited by ---MAD--- (General Manager): Thread locked. We do not discuss bannings in public.
GommeInc
12-04-2008, 12:31 PM
My opinion was negative yes, yet the question still remains why have I been banned which according to your rules states will never happen.
It says there I can say what I want as long as I don't call anyone names, which last night - I didn't. The reason you gave for banning -:undertaker:- was for being 'negative'. Isn't that the whole point of a forum? A forum is where different ideas and people will talk/debate/discuss what they think. I have had a reasonably clean record, I wonder if Immenseman is going to be banned for being too 'positive' in the ione Gifts thread. Surely if you feel they aren't super rares, you should be able to defend your reasons? - or are you the spineless cowards you seem to act like?
I don't want this moved thanks, like my last thread a few weeks ago was ignored. If you look in the spam thread about my ban, you will see even people who didn't always agree with me still think it's pathetic, yet again it seems like you are outnumbered? - Are you going to ban them for being to negative about your rules?
They twist and manipulate the rules to suit themselves, you won't get a good answer I'm affraid. The reason is stupid, when you're not always negative about Habbox. You speak your mind about politics and government issues most of the time.
Titch
12-04-2008, 12:32 PM
They twist and manipulate the rules to suit themselves, you won't get a good answer I'm affraid.
well said.
Blinger1
12-04-2008, 12:33 PM
Habbox is stupid with rules.. you won't get a fair trial..
danandthe3gifts
12-04-2008, 12:45 PM
They twist and manipulate the rules to suit themselves, you won't get a good answer I'm affraid. The reason is stupid, when you're not always negative about Habbox. You speak your mind about politics and government issues most of the time.
Thanks, Gomme. :)
I am going to try though, I have always said this forum is good yet it is ruined by management & their pathetic rules which are warped and bent to suit themselves.
Habbox is stupid with rules.. you won't get a fair trial..
Habbox itself is not stupid, it is the people who run the site/forum whom are the stupid ones. The members are great and the forum is buzzing with activity.
-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 01:38 PM
Sadly people these days get offended if you call them a cheesecake. It is a teenage forum and negative opinions should still be tolerated.
Unfortunately negative comments are not tolerated at all which is complete crap in my opinion.
Still, I can't do anything about it. Still bad you got banned.
Niall!
12-04-2008, 02:14 PM
Corrupttion! Unfair ban reason.
Decode
12-04-2008, 02:21 PM
Its interesting that no super mods or managment have posted in these threads yet :rolleyes:
-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 02:22 PM
Although I have seen them viewing them.
edit:
I don't go on and "rave" actually. it is people like you who are trying to stop any form of debating.
Niall!
12-04-2008, 02:25 PM
Dan, it's a bad move calling yourself danandthe3gifts
lol.
-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 02:27 PM
It's not mayhem love. It's called debating. All you seem to do is ***** at everyone else for having an opinion.
I beleive he called himself that just to make it known thats why he was banned.
Rather catchy I think XD.
danandthe3gifts
12-04-2008, 02:56 PM
Dan, it's a bad move calling yourself danandthe3gifts
lol.
What Nakumuri said. :)
It's not mayhem love. It's called debating. All you seem to do is ***** at everyone else for having an opinion.
I beleive he called himself that just to make it known thats why he was banned.
Rather catchy I think XD.
Haha thank you. :)
Thetan
12-04-2008, 02:56 PM
At sixteen, I see you are only on here to post negatively towards dan so I think you should be banned.
le harry
12-04-2008, 02:57 PM
madness i tell you!!!!
Adzeh
12-04-2008, 03:01 PM
Not a personal attack on anybody here.
If I became General Manager I would have imposed auto bans on anybody who could not be positive on this forum. It is your opinion which cannot be doubted or questionned, but if that opinion is posted and will cause more negativity then it has to be dealt with.
Extreme example of this is slander, which is (I believe) regarded as a criminal offence?
Basically, I would have no problem with banning anybody that set out to impose their negative opinions on others, with the intention of influencing the opinions of others.
-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 03:03 PM
I don't think anyone is trying to change someones view here. Except we are giving our opinions on how Undertaker didn't technically break any rules.
I guess I would be banned considering my usertitle :P
Thetan
12-04-2008, 03:04 PM
Not a personal attack on anybody here.
If I became General Manager I would have imposed auto bans on anybody who could not be positive on this forum. It is your opinion which cannot be doubted or questionned, but if that opinion is posted and will cause more negativity then it has to be dealt with.
Extreme example of this is slander, which is (I believe) regarded as a criminal offence?
Basically, I would have no problem with banning anybody that set out to impose their negative opinions on others, with the intention of influencing the opinions of others.
Well, you see the incident was that someone tried to accuse Dan of advertising his website, but then got banned after telling people to get back on topic.
danandthe3gifts
12-04-2008, 03:05 PM
Not a personal attack on anybody here.
If I became General Manager I would have imposed auto bans on anybody who could not be positive on this forum. It is your opinion which cannot be doubted or questionned, but if that opinion is posted and will cause more negativity then it has to be dealt with.
Extreme example of this is slander, which is (I believe) regarded as a criminal offence?
Basically, I would have no problem with banning anybody that set out to impose their negative opinions on others, with the intention of influencing the opinions of others.
Then what is the point of a forum? - So we can all sit here saying 'yh good move mad' & 'yh aren't the new reputation changes great even though i don't agree with them -fake smile-'.
Adzeh
12-04-2008, 03:26 PM
I'm not suggesting that you have to do that.
But nobody likes a whiner, it gets old eventually. I'm not gonig to judge you, or insult you by trying, because I don't know you and don't often read your posts, but there are better ways of getting things sorted than by constantly complaining and being negative.
-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 03:27 PM
But most of the time things don't get sorted.
danandthe3gifts
12-04-2008, 03:35 PM
I'm not suggesting that you have to do that.
But nobody likes a whiner, it gets old eventually. I'm not gonig to judge you, or insult you by trying, because I don't know you and don't often read your posts, but there are better ways of getting things sorted than by constantly complaining and being negative.
But most of the time things don't get sorted.
If I thought/knew the Council would of been listened too I would of run for it, but I knew it would fail and I was right. I have a lot of ideas for HxF, some would work excellent here just as it's starting to work on HHGS. It would work even better on HxF as it's a bigger forum - but it seems no one from management is ever prepared to listen or change and that is the sad thing.
today
12-04-2008, 03:36 PM
maybe liste them anyhow, just for general intrest =]
-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 03:38 PM
The habbox council sort of deserves it's own "Fail" badge.
Please list them!
Immenseman
12-04-2008, 03:39 PM
But most of the time things don't get sorted.
If things don't get sorted it's because they don't need sorting or people don't complain about them in the right way.
-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 03:40 PM
Silence. Many thing don't get sorted properly.
Example. 2 parties have a discussion which leads to an argument. Person sticking up for themselves gets punished and the superior that the person argued with geets nothing done.
danandthe3gifts
12-04-2008, 03:41 PM
Yeah ok, of course it would need to be a lot more detailed for it to work on Habbox Forum as it's much more larger and more complex. Here's the draft anywho.
This plan is to change HHGS for the better and most importantly give the Public more of a say in what happens. It is known the more people have a impact in the way the forum works the more they will enjoy it and the better a reputation it will recieve.
The people's say
Management workings
Relaxing of rules
Reputation System Reformal & Awards
Elections
OpenessThe people's say
The most important part of the Reformal Plan is this part. It consists of giving the public more of a say on what goes on with HHGS. The idea is simple, let the people choose as that will be the most popular decision.
Give users the right to a referendum on rule changes.
Give users the right to a referendum on forum changes.
Give users the ability to elect the Community Management every 2 months or so.Under these plans a lot of things that go on around the forum will be decided on referendums. Major sites/forums in the past have and are ignoring what people want making the site/forum unpopular.
Management workings
Management must be sorted out as it is sometimes unclear who does what. This proposal will hopefully change that and make it much simpler. This change does not need implementing until the forum gains more of it's popularity back.
'The Senate' - Consists of Ross, Danny and a third person who is elected by the forum community. Their jobs will be to do extra work around the forum, advertise the forum and organise staff/technical workings.
'Congress' - Consists of Department Managers/Assistant Department Managers and the elected members of Community Management. Jobs are to look after their departments and raise any issues with the Senate. The Department Managers will be looking after their departments interests whereas the Community Managers will be looking after the publics' interests.Ross and Danny are permanent Senate Members and a third is elected on a elected timescale which will go to the public in a referendum. Congress members are the people who will raise pressing issues with the members of the Senate.
Relaxing of rules
The forum rules must be looked through and decided which ones are needed and which ones aren't. The freeing up of a forum makes it so much better without seeing Infractions being handed out a lot. If a rule is accepted to be not nessercerily needed by the Senate after it's been raised by the Community Mangement Team (Congress) then it will be put to the public in a referendum to see whether it is needed or not.
Reputation System Reformal and Awards
The Reputation System to be reformed. Reputation must be easier to get, much easier as we are a small forum and not a lot is given out. This issue can go to a referendum, one of the first to see what people want.
Awards such as a lot of reputation points given to people who have contributed a lot such as posting a lot, contributed by posting their opinions in referendum threads and discussions. I also propose all staff members who deserve it are given extra rep at the end of every month as a reward.
Elections
There will be elections for a third Senate Member. The question is; How long does this member hold their position for before an election is called. I propose it is put to the public to decide when and how long a Senate Member stays in office for. I personally think each term in office should last between 3 - 6 months before an election is called.
The Community Management elections must also be held to elect two Community Managers to congress. I personally think each term in office should last 2 - 4 months before an election is called.
Openess
Openess is a big problem on forums. Many times when someone is fired/left or a decision is made there is confusion and anger at why. So I propose this.
If the Senate choose not to call a referendum on an issue an announcement must be made fully explaining why a referendum hasn't been called and the reasons why that rule/issue must stay in place.
When a staff member is fired/leaves a thread which is unbiased must be made explaining why.
The Professor
12-04-2008, 03:42 PM
Not a personal attack on anybody here.
If I became General Manager I would have imposed auto bans on anybody who could not be positive on this forum. It is your opinion which cannot be doubted or questionned, but if that opinion is posted and will cause more negativity then it has to be dealt with.
Extreme example of this is slander, which is (I believe) regarded as a criminal offence?
Basically, I would have no problem with banning anybody that set out to impose their negative opinions on others, with the intention of influencing the opinions of others.
I love you, and I want to have your babies. I thought I was the only one who thought that because I'm a moaning Victor Meldrew :P
Yeah, what Adzeh said. There's really no need to be making the forum negative.
-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 03:43 PM
"Margaret Thatcher"
Sounds interesting.
today
12-04-2008, 03:43 PM
I love you, and I want to have your babies. I thought I was the only one who thought that because I'm a moaning Victor Meldrew :P
Yeah, what Adzeh said. There's really no need to be making the forum negative.
byebye alex then, specially if Adzeh became "GM"
The Professor
12-04-2008, 03:48 PM
byebye alex then, specially if Adzeh became "GM"
Oh imagine that, a genetically modified Adzeh...
jrh2002
12-04-2008, 03:50 PM
Not a personal attack on anybody here.
If I became General Manager I would have imposed auto bans on anybody who could not be positive on this forum. It is your opinion which cannot be doubted or questionned, but if that opinion is posted and will cause more negativity then it has to be dealt with.
Extreme example of this is slander, which is (I believe) regarded as a criminal offence?
Basically, I would have no problem with banning anybody that set out to impose their negative opinions on others, with the intention of influencing the opinions of others.
I think your right banning somebody who is always negative is a great thing to do. Maybe read undertakers posts and see if they are ALL negative though? I find quite a number of his posts as positive but it does vary depending on the subject and its the same with us all.
Do we start telling people what threads we can and cant post in? If we all had the same opinion and agreed on anything they might as well shut up shop now? maybe hxf will have to add a hack to turn its members into zombies and have the power to control our minds so we agree 100% with everything.
danandthe3gifts
12-04-2008, 03:51 PM
The idea of it is to simplify the forum and give more power to the users, it will then include the users in the decision making. It looks confusing written down but once it was up it would be rather simple. :)
-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 03:52 PM
"Include members in decision making" Yeah, good idea. Placing that on habbox is something that will never happen.
My opinion was negative yes, yet the question still remains why have I been banned which according to your rules states will never happen.
It says there I can say what I want as long as I don't call anyone names, which last night - I didn't. The reason you gave for banning -:undertaker:- was for being 'negative'. Isn't that the whole point of a forum? A forum is where different ideas and people will talk/debate/discuss what they think. I have had a reasonably clean record, I wonder if Immenseman is going to be banned for being too 'positive' in the ione Gifts thread. Surely if you feel they aren't super rares, you should be able to defend your reasons? - or are you the spineless cowards you seem to act like?
I don't want this moved thanks, like my last thread a few weeks ago was ignored. If you look in the spam thread about my ban, you will see even people who didn't always agree with me still think it's pathetic, yet again it seems like you are outnumbered? - Are you going to ban them for being to negative about your rules?
The new rule was put in when Sierk made an announcement, it just wasn't updated in the rules obviously.
-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 04:04 PM
Then it should have been. Plus his posts arent only bad and he doesn't purposely try to make trouble so the ban is unfair
danandthe3gifts
12-04-2008, 04:05 PM
The new rule was put in when Sierk made an announcement, it just wasn't updated in the rules obviously.
It should of been put in the banning thread then.
I do post positively.
I am not here to cause trouble, infact I want the opposite and that's for the forum to improve.
Yesterday I was banned because a an issue that Management seem to cringe over.
I can think the ione Gifts are super rares if I wish, and management can't make me think otherwise.
jrh2002
12-04-2008, 04:06 PM
Then it should have been. Plus his posts arent only bad and he doesn't purposely try to make trouble so the ban is unfair
+Rep :eusa_clap
-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 04:09 PM
You seem so sarcastic. I don't see why dan was even banned. it's an opinion. Everyone in entitled to theirs.
jrh2002
12-04-2008, 04:11 PM
You seem so sarcastic. I don't see why dan was even banned. it's an opinion. Everyone in entitled to theirs.
Who you on about? I + Repped you because I agree with you 100% :s
I can be sarcastic to people who attack me first but I dont even know you :s
This situation is like the person doing the ban taking their ball back down the park because things are not going their way.
-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 04:14 PM
Sorry lol, I don't usually receive +rep and to me my post sounded like it was pointing out the obvious. Thanks for the rep :).
jrh2002
12-04-2008, 04:17 PM
Sorry lol, I don't usually receive +rep and to me my post sounded like it was pointing out the obvious. Thanks for the rep :).
It certainly was pointing out the obvious and it just makes you wonder what planet the people who make such decisions are from to not realise that.
-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 04:20 PM
Exactly. It really is silly.
MissAlice
12-04-2008, 04:24 PM
Not a personal attack on anybody here.
If I became General Manager I would have imposed auto bans on anybody who could not be positive on this forum. It is your opinion which cannot be doubted or questionned, but if that opinion is posted and will cause more negativity then it has to be dealt with.
Extreme example of this is slander, which is (I believe) regarded as a criminal offence?
Basically, I would have no problem with banning anybody that set out to impose their negative opinions on others, with the intention of influencing the opinions of others.
Ouch, a forum isn't simply for positive posting, it's a place for discussion on many topics that interest the public and it's members, and that obviously would involve different opinions, how boring would it be otherwise? We don't have to agree with everything that we read, and it's important to read and listen to why someone feels strongly about something. An open mind sometimes is necessary.
Most of the members here are kids not criminals, and those older and wiser members should lead by example, not with threats.
Sure I agree with punishing those whose sole intention is to do damage here, but those members do seem to be picked out very quickly and banned.
The habbox council sort of deserves it's own "Fail" badge.
Please list them!
I wouldn't really say the council is a complete fail but it does seem lik our opinions aren't really listened to regarding the recent rep thing.
ah well. I think that the ban was unfair as I've seen some perfectly fine posts by him but as soon as you start voiceing your opinion against ANYONE in power (online or otherwise..) you get the back hand.
-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 04:27 PM
Thats power for you.
"A wise man once said, There are many scales of FAIL young dragon"
Niall!
12-04-2008, 04:36 PM
I'm not suggesting that you have to do that.
But nobody likes a whiner, it gets old eventually. I'm not gonig to judge you, or insult you by trying, because I don't know you and don't often read your posts, but there are better ways of getting things sorted than by constantly complaining and being negative.
No, you ARE saying that, a forum is a place to express our views however we want to, it's not insulting anyone. Habbox is being run like, I don't the right word for it, a communist country. You can't be to negative. Or you get shot. In this case, banned.
Boonzeet
12-04-2008, 04:38 PM
I'm not suggesting that you have to do that.
But nobody likes a whiner, it gets old eventually. I'm not gonig to judge you, or insult you by trying, because I don't know you and don't often read your posts, but there are better ways of getting things sorted than by constantly complaining and being negative.
You don't ban people for whining! There is no rule that says "Habboxers must be always like the stepford wives!"
This is completely uncalled for ban.
I have noticed in my time here, that a site that is mostly governed by about 15 - 18 year olds just keeps collapsing when management can't take jokes, they don't listen to criticism or care about your opinions. Good sites listen to their veiwers! They take in their opinion and FIX what's wrong! This site has remained completely unchanged for 2 whole years. The layout is still a free template. The forum skins are still the same. The rules change in the wrong ways.
It's a bad comparison, but this is like americas attitude towards the freedom fighters. They killed people for their simple opinions and questions.
Habbox banned someone for saying that an Ione gift was indeed a super rare? Absolutely pointless ban. Hyped up teenagers.
OpinionsFTW, for example has freedom of speech. Here, does not sadly.
EDIT: Reading Azdeh's other post. Autobans? For saying something negative? We choose to come to Habbox, it's not like school. See a single other forum with autobans for opinions. I will be so impressed.
Finkelstien
12-04-2008, 04:39 PM
Firstly, as for the comments regarding the Habbox Council being a 'failure'. Our chair released the first agenda a week or two ago consisting of topics and suggestions both staff and Habbox users brought to us. Out of all the suggestions we put forward only one was not accepted by management and the rest all put into action, which in my view is fantastic.
Secondly, one can not expect the council to start off running efficiently in its first few weeks of operation. Most things in life take time to fully establish and to brand it a 'failure' is not necessary, however you do have the right to air your opinions. May it be said that the Habbox Council is now stronger than it's ever been and things are really starting to stabilize with a promising future ahead.
I'm not pointing fingers to a sole but let's get real. There are always forum users who go out of their way to make other users day to day experience on the forum hell through constant, unnecessary negativity. Very often with the sole purpose to gain attention or to live out this little child like e-rebel fantasy life style in front of a PC screen. If banning a user for constantly being negative is such a crime then how do we ensure a fun and youthful experience for those forum users who seek a enjoyable online environment, something the Habbox Forum has been established to do? I think many users also need to remember this is a Habbo forum open to users of all ages, old and young alike.
Lastly, this is not aimed in anyway at you, Undertaker, as I don't know you well enough to comment on your situation and I hardly ever come across the posts you create. This is my general opinion on the topic at hand.
Niall!
12-04-2008, 04:40 PM
You don't ban people for whining! There is no rule that says "Habboxers must be always like the stepford wives!"
This is completely uncalled for ban.
I have noticed in my time here, that a site that is mostly governed by about 15 - 18 year olds just keeps collapsing when management can't take jokes, they don't listen to criticism or care about your opinions. Good sites listen to their veiwers! They take in their opinion and FIX what's wrong! This site has remained completely unchanged for 2 whole years. The layout is still a free template. The forum skins are still the same. The rules change in the wrong ways.
It's a bad comparison, but this is like americas attitude towards the freedom fighters. They killed people for their simple opinions and questions.
Habbox banned someone for saying that an Ione gift was indeed a super rare? Absolutely pointless ban. Hyped up teenagers.
OpinionsFTW, for example has freedom of speech. Here, does not sadly.
You are epic ******* win. Have some rep.
-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 04:41 PM
I would make a United Arab Emirates joke about now but I would face a ban.
Stupid tbh
edit. I really should start quoting people otherwise I am going to seem like I am pointless posting. This was in response to boonzeet.
jrh2002
12-04-2008, 04:54 PM
Firstly, as for the comments regarding the Habbox Council being a 'failure'. Our chair released the first agenda a week or two ago consisting of topics and suggestions both staff and Habbox users brought to us. Out of all the suggestions we put forward only one was not accepted by management and the rest all put into action, which in my view is fantastic.
Secondly, one can not expect the council to start off running efficiently in its first few weeks of operation. Most things in life take time to fully establish and to brand it a 'failure' is not necessary, however you do have the right to air your opinions. May it be said that the Habbox Council is now stronger than it's ever been and things are really starting to stabilize with a promising future ahead.
I'm not pointing fingers to a sole but let's get real. There are always forum users who go out of their way to make other users day to day experience on the forum hell through constant, unnecessary negativity. Very often with the sole purpose to gain attention or to live out this little child like e-rebel fantasy life style in front of a PC screen. If banning a user for constantly being negative is such a crime then how do we ensure a fun and youthful experience for those forum users who seek a enjoyable online environment, something the Habbox Forum has been established to do? I think many users also need to remember this is a Habbo forum open to users of all ages, old and young alike.
Lastly, this is not aimed in anyway at you, Undertaker, as I don't know you well enough to comment on your situation and I hardly ever come across the posts you create. This is my general opinion on the topic at hand.
The council has failed so far and seeing the main members and person who set it up quit is what i base my opinion on. Of course you could all get it running perctly and I will applaud you if you do but its failed so far.
I think people always being negative deserve being permed but in this case its far from it.
I would make a United Arab Emirates joke about now but I would face a ban.
Stupid tbh
edit. I really should start quoting people otherwise I am going to seem like I am pointless posting. This was in response to boonzeet.
Who would a UAE joke offend?
Son get in here right now. How many times have I told you to stop trying to milk our camels especially the males ones :eusa_danc
I will be on stage this time next week for such quality jokes :eusa_whis
,Jess,
12-04-2008, 04:55 PM
Not a personal attack on anybody here.
If I became General Manager I would have imposed auto bans on anybody who could not be positive on this forum. It is your opinion which cannot be doubted or questionned, but if that opinion is posted and will cause more negativity then it has to be dealt with.
Extreme example of this is slander, which is (I believe) regarded as a criminal offence?
Basically, I would have no problem with banning anybody that set out to impose their negative opinions on others, with the intention of influencing the opinions of others.
I think that's a harsh approach, surely every person would be looked at differently, you can't just see one negative opinion and think *auto ban*. Not everyone thinks in the same way and as long as something is gone about the right way then I see no problem in negative views, it's the way in which it is said. Sometimes though seeing as this is an Internet forum things may not come accross how they are meant which leads to mistakes, like people getting banned. Also if someone posts something in the feedback forum about something they don't like, they are going to state there case on why they think the way they do, so would you see that as influencing the opinions of others? That just wouldn't work if people made negative comments and didn't expand.
No, you ARE saying that, a forum is a place to express our views however we want to, it's not insulting anyone. Habbox is being run like, I don't the right word for it, a communist country. You can't be to negative. Or you get shot. In this case, banned.
That's over the top, like I (and many others) said, it's how you go about it.
-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 04:58 PM
The council has failed so far and seeing the main members and person who set it up quit is what i base my opinion on. Of course you could all get it running perctly and I will applaud you if you do but its failed so far.
I think people always being negative deserve being permed but in this case its far from it.
Who would a UAE joke offend?
Son get in here right now. How many times have I told you to stop trying to milk our camels especially the males ones :eusa_danc
I will be on stage this time next week for such quality jokes :eusa_whis
I beleive MAD is from somewhere around there.
SORRY IF I AM WRONG. Can be highly racist at times
I agree completely
jrh2002
12-04-2008, 05:00 PM
I beleive MAD is from somewhere around there.
SORRY IF I AM WRONG. Can be highly racist at times
I agree completely
Mad is highly racist? I thought he took offence to it and certain female member because of in Mad's opinion she had a racist outburst that was nothing of the sort.
-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 05:02 PM
OMG I HATE MYSELF. I NEEDED TO PUT AN I IN THERE!
I remember that. silly really
Edit: I really do respect MAD but everyone has their limits of respect when things happen which are stupid.
jrh2002
12-04-2008, 05:07 PM
I think a big problem is alot of the higher up staff dont find the time to post around the forums these days. It makes a better community when the staff and members can talk in threads and even have a bit of a laugh. Maybe we are banned from having any sort of a sense of humour these days.
Boonzeet
12-04-2008, 05:17 PM
Yep. You say Iran here you might get a perm ban.
I've been IP banned on here over 4 times. Strangley, MOD's deny it and apparently they haven't ever seriously IP'd someone.
Plus MAD is highly racist? When?
Also, to jrh2002. People with no sense of humor have no tolerance when it comes to humorous people. That's why people get infractions for jokes with the reason "please do not be offensive to other users" when the other user said it was a joke!
-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 05:18 PM
Join the articles department it is full of fun! Generally on this forum you can't have a joke without it kicking up a fuss.
Boonzeet
12-04-2008, 05:22 PM
Join the articles department it is full of fun! Generally on this forum you can't have a joke without it kicking up a fuss.
Mmhmm. In the articles department we can share a joke, we don't get fired. James is always talking about **** in a jokey way, he hasn't been fired (yet.)
We have fun, and Professor-Alex is one of the few in management with a sense of humor.
Niall!
12-04-2008, 05:25 PM
I think that's a harsh approach, surely every person would be looked at differently, you can't just see one negative opinion and think *auto ban*. Not everyone thinks in the same way and as long as something is gone about the right way then I see no problem in negative views, it's the way in which it is said. Sometimes though seeing as this is an Internet forum things may not come accross how they are meant which leads to mistakes, like people getting banned. Also if someone posts something in the feedback forum about something they don't like, they are going to state there case on why they think the way they do, so would you see that as influencing the opinions of others? That just wouldn't work if people made negative comments and didn't expand.
That's over the top, like I (and many others) said, it's how you go about it.
It isn't over the top, it's the truth. Habbox shouldn't be able to say who can and who cannot visit the forum on the basis that they are to negative.
-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 05:35 PM
Too right!
Boonzeet
12-04-2008, 05:35 PM
It isn't over the top, it's the truth. Habbox shouldn't be able to say who can and who cannot visit the forum on the basis that they are to negative.
Well said, +rep :)
EDIT: Exceeded my rep max for today? aint been on at all!
-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 05:40 PM
Soooo, Who else received warnings / infractions for posting a "Negative" View?
jrh2002
12-04-2008, 06:06 PM
Soooo, Who else received warnings / infractions for posting a "Negative" View?
Not me :eusa_danc yet lol
-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 06:36 PM
Ah. Jolly good.
The Professor
12-04-2008, 06:54 PM
I think that's a harsh approach, surely every person would be looked at differently, you can't just see one negative opinion and think *auto ban*. Not everyone thinks in the same way and as long as something is gone about the right way then I see no problem in negative views, it's the way in which it is said. Sometimes though seeing as this is an Internet forum things may not come accross how they are meant which leads to mistakes, like people getting banned. Also if someone posts something in the feedback forum about something they don't like, they are going to state there case on why they think the way they do, so would you see that as influencing the opinions of others? That just wouldn't work if people made negative comments and didn't expand.
I'd fully trust Adam to use that power sparingly, given the chance. I think it's clear to everyone when someone is generally concerned about something on here and when they are being negative unecessarily and constantly. It doesn't make for a good atmosphere on the forums and usually doesn't produce anything productive except an argument and/or flame war.
Mmhmm. In the articles department we can share a joke, we don't get fired. James is always talking about **** in a jokey way, he hasn't been fired (yet.)
We have fun, and Professor-Alex is one of the few in management with a sense of humor.
Aww, thats not fair now, quite a few managers that I know have a sense of humour, even nvr has his moments. Very occasional mind you :P
Love ya really
-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 06:59 PM
I'd fully trust Adam to use that power sparingly, given the chance. I think it's clear to everyone when someone is generally concerned about something on here and when they are being negative unecessarily and constantly. It doesn't make for a good atmosphere on the forums and usually doesn't produce anything productive except an argument and/or flame war.
Aww, thats not fair now, quite a few managers that I know have a sense of humour, even nvr has his moments. Very occasional mind you :P
Love ya really
Now that I find hard to beleive :P
This thread has gone quite off topic...
today
12-04-2008, 07:08 PM
Nvr is quite funny often, well to me anyhow. x]
Just get on his good side or your a gonner..
-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 07:09 PM
Nvr is quite funny often, well to me anyhow. x]
Just get on his good side or your a gonner..
Oh! I never knew that.
Immenseman
12-04-2008, 07:09 PM
Just get on his good side or your a gonner..
I'd certainly agree with that :P
The management of this forum is ******* pathetic.
You can't say anything.
If there is something you don't agree with and you want to post a negative comment what are you meant to do? Lie and give a positive comment on something you don't agree with?
Its outragous, something needs to be done and fast. :rolleyes:
Corporal
12-04-2008, 07:17 PM
I'm not suggesting that you have to do that.
But nobody likes a whiner, it gets old eventually. I'm not gonig to judge you, or insult you by trying, because I don't know you and don't often read your posts, but there are better ways of getting things sorted than by constantly complaining and being negative.
How do you positivily complain about something?
complaining is something negative you dont complain about the good
-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 07:33 PM
How do you positivily complain about something?
complaining is something negative you dont complain about the good
I lolled at that +rep
GommeInc
12-04-2008, 07:38 PM
How do you positivily complain about something?
complaining is something negative you dont complain about the good
Tis possible, you are complaining for something good. If killing people is bad, you can complain about it and make it good by saying killing is bad, not killing is good.
If you want to think deeper into the meaning. Something negative is of course negative and complaining is seen as negative, the two cancel each other out and become positive :P
Boonzeet
12-04-2008, 07:42 PM
Just get on his good side or your a gonner..
Management has a good side? :P
-Xiangu-
12-04-2008, 08:02 PM
Tis possible, you are complaining for something good. If killing people is bad, you can complain about it and make it good by saying killing is bad, not killing is good.
If you want to think deeper into the meaning. Something negative is of course negative and complaining is seen as negative, the two cancel each other out and become positive :P
Such magnificent interlect you have oh great Maharajah!
nvrspk4
12-04-2008, 08:46 PM
How do you positivily complain about something?
complaining is something negative you dont complain about the good
I think what he means is more constructive criticism not aimed at cutting anybody down, but instead building things up through improvement.
Boonzeet
12-04-2008, 08:58 PM
Yeah but, if someone stabs someone, you can't really improvise on that.
Sometimes things have to be complained about. Undertaker did not deserve a ban.
danandthe3gifts
12-04-2008, 09:59 PM
The management of this forum is ******* pathetic.
You can't say anything.
If there is something you don't agree with and you want to post a negative comment what are you meant to do? Lie and give a positive comment on something you don't agree with?
Its outragous, something needs to be done and fast. :rolleyes:
How do you positivily complain about something?
complaining is something negative you dont complain about the good
I think what he means is more constructive criticism not aimed at cutting anybody down, but instead building things up through improvement.
I wonder how sierk/---MAD--- will reply to these, then again will they, because there is no defence for all your points that you have all made. :)
Thetan
12-04-2008, 11:59 PM
Where are the moderators? They have been online, yet they ignore this thread.:rolleyes:
-Xiangu-
13-04-2008, 12:18 AM
There are no moderators in this forum except management.
Nereo
13-04-2008, 12:54 AM
There are no moderators in this forum except management.
Maybe they should get a couple? Like a super mod of something
nvrspk4
13-04-2008, 05:50 AM
Where are the moderators? They have been online, yet they ignore this thread.:rolleyes:
They can't exactly comment on bans can they ;)
Maybe they should get a couple? Like a super mod of something
Super Mods can moderate this forum anyway :P
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