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Discharge Man
14-04-2008, 10:02 PM
I need to get this out so here goes;

Firstly, David Dein should come back because he was an excellent chairman and he always backed Wenger financially as well as mentally. He was a great owner and wasn't just in it for the money. One of the main reasons why Thierry Henry left was because of David Dein's departure - it just proves what a close relationship Dein had with all the players. You don't get that at every club.

If Usamanov takes the majority of Arsenal then he's our owner. Another foreigner who knows nothing about football and nothing about England or tradition or anything. The only thing he knows about is money. He can piss off.

Secondly, Wenger's time is up. Yes, okay, he's won things with Arsenal but he's not winning things. He hasn't done so for 3 seasons now and beautiful, stylish football doesn't make up for not winning trophies. I'm sure we can find a suitable replacement.

I'd like to see Allardyce at Arsenal if I'm honest because I believe his approach would help. Mourinho would be ideal but we all know he wouldn't. We won't get a new manager anyway because the Arsenal board have there noses up his buttocks.

Thirdly, which has got to do with my second point. I would, seriously, only keep 6 first team players out of our usual first 16. Clichy, Walcott, Fabregas, Flamini, Hleb and Rosicky. I'm not bothered how good anyone else is - these players [when fit] are the most enthusiastic players for Arsenal.

On the other hand - here are the players I think should definately step on their bicycle and hop it; Gallas, Eboué, Adebayor, v.Persie, Gilberto, Senderos, Bendtner. Extreme, maybe. Rational, probably.

Anyway, that's what I think is the downfall over the past couple of years.

Geraint
14-04-2008, 10:14 PM
I need to get this out so here goes;

Firstly, David Dein should come back because he was an excellent chairman and he always backed Wenger financially as well as mentally. He was a great owner and wasn't just in it for the money. One of the main reasons why Thierry Henry left was because of David Dein's departure - it just proves what a close relationship Dein had with all the players. You don't get that at every club.

If Usamanov takes the majority of Arsenal then he's our owner. Another foreigner who knows nothing about football and nothing about England or tradition or anything. The only thing he knows about is money. He can piss off.

Secondly, Wenger's time is up. Yes, okay, he's won things with Arsenal but he's not winning things. He hasn't done so for 3 seasons now and beautiful, stylish football doesn't make up for not winning trophies. I'm sure we can find a suitable replacement.

I'd like to see Allardyce at Arsenal if I'm honest because I believe his approach would help. Mourinho would be ideal but we all know he wouldn't. We won't get a new manager anyway because the Arsenal board have there noses up his buttocks.

Thirdly, which has got to do with my second point. I would, seriously, only keep 6 first team players out of our usual first 16. Clichy, Walcott, Fabregas, Flamini, Hleb and Rosicky. I'm not bothered how good anyone else is - these players [when fit] are the most enthusiastic players for Arsenal.

On the other hand - here are the players I think should definately step on their bicycle and hop it; Gallas, Eboué, Adebayor, v.Persie, Gilberto, Senderos, Bendtner. Extreme, maybe. Rational, probably.

Anyway, that's what I think is the downfall over the past couple of years.

I know I support Cardiff but I also really like Arsenal so I have strong views on them.

You've said about the first team players and I would have to agree with the 6 you chose to keep but you'd get rid of Adebayor? Surely he is one reason why Arsenal are where they are now. I would keep him there. Gilberto is a dodgy one because he is a born leader. He was the only one with leadership skills yesterday. The rest I couldn't care less about. I would also keep Sagna because I think that was a very good buy this season.

I also agree that Wenger should go. He's done what he can and most Arsenal fans will thank him. He only brings in young players and sometimes you can't just buy young. At times he doesn't seem to know what he is doing. Yesterday, he said he is only going to bring in 1 experienced player when quite clearly Arsenal need 4-5. If Arsenal are going to get anywhere in a few years, they really need to build a big strong squad and that will be difficult with only 9-10 players who should be there. If you look when Arsenal last one the premier league they had players like Pires, Ljungberg, Henry, Bergkamp etc. with some good youngsters.

I think Arsenal's downfall this season was the loss of Henry but for the past 3 years it has been Wenger. He believes the youngesters are good enough because the can do well in the league cup. Arsenal need experience. Man United have it, Chelsea have it and Liverpool have it. Arsenal had it when they won the league.

Andys
14-04-2008, 10:23 PM
What? Get rid of Adebyor!?

He's well good. I think you should keep Bendtner too as he would probably develope into a great player in 2/3 years.

Hoodstar
14-04-2008, 10:58 PM
So you want to get rid of your top scorer.. okay.. and probably your best defender in gallas. I know people are pin pointing Gallas as a poor captain but that doesn't mean he's a poor player, just that Wenger doesn't realise how uninfluencial he is.

Bendtner, Senderos, Eboue and also Lehmann HAVE to go, they are absolutely awful at times, especially the last two, Bendtner couldn't score an open goal even if he tried. Senderos thinks marking a player is standing 5 yards away from them and Eboue couldn't pick a pass for a yard away with no one in the way and lehmann is a total liability and is such a burden on the team at times, otherwise arsenal have a good squad of player, just need someone to push in new blood.

They I believe, need 1 new player in each area of the pitch. New goalkeeper, a full back who can play either side. And strong centre back, one who's commanding in the air and has a presence about him. A new winger who can operate on either flank. A midfielder, possibly a holding one. And 2 strikers, one who can hold the ball up, and one who's willing to go beyond the last defender into space. And a player who can get behind the team when they need it most, Ferdinand/Terry/Gerrard type figure.

Course Arsenal are looking at about £50M+ worth of talent needed, but thats the cost to keep up in this division, and with the turnover they're making, they have to invest some of the funds accumilated into the future of the club.

Simmzay
15-04-2008, 12:56 AM
David Dein sold us out, man. He's got a lot to do to redeem himself before he's ever coming back.

Discharge Man
15-04-2008, 06:23 AM
I know I support Cardiff but I also really like Arsenal so I have strong views on them.

You've said about the first team players and I would have to agree with the 6 you chose to keep but you'd get rid of Adebayor? Surely he is one reason why Arsenal are where they are now. I would keep him there. Gilberto is a dodgy one because he is a born leader. He was the only one with leadership skills yesterday. The rest I couldn't care less about. I would also keep Sagna because I think that was a very good buy this season.

I also agree that Wenger should go. He's done what he can and most Arsenal fans will thank him. He only brings in young players and sometimes you can't just buy young. At times he doesn't seem to know what he is doing. Yesterday, he said he is only going to bring in 1 experienced player when quite clearly Arsenal need 4-5. If Arsenal are going to get anywhere in a few years, they really need to build a big strong squad and that will be difficult with only 9-10 players who should be there. If you look when Arsenal last one the premier league they had players like Pires, Ljungberg, Henry, Bergkamp etc. with some good youngsters.

I think Arsenal's downfall this season was the loss of Henry but for the past 3 years it has been Wenger. He believes the youngesters are good enough because the can do well in the league cup. Arsenal need experience. Man United have it, Chelsea have it and Liverpool have it. Arsenal had it when they won the league.
At the start of the season Adebayor was still playing off Henry even though he was without his presence. I don't think he's half the player that he was when he actually was playing off Henry.



What? Get rid of Adebyor!?

He's well good. I think you should keep Bendtner too as he would probably develope into a great player in 2/3 years.
I don't think Bendtner will. I think he'll be a flop like the rest of our Birmingham drop-outs.


So you want to get rid of your top scorer.. okay.. and probably your best defender in gallas. I know people are pin pointing Gallas as a poor captain but that doesn't mean he's a poor player, just that Wenger doesn't realise how uninfluencial he is.

Bendtner, Senderos, Eboue and also Lehmann HAVE to go, they are absolutely awful at times, especially the last two, Bendtner couldn't score an open goal even if he tried. Senderos thinks marking a player is standing 5 yards away from them and Eboue couldn't pick a pass for a yard away with no one in the way and lehmann is a total liability and is such a burden on the team at times, otherwise arsenal have a good squad of player, just need someone to push in new blood.

They I believe, need 1 new player in each area of the pitch. New goalkeeper, a full back who can play either side. And strong centre back, one who's commanding in the air and has a presence about him. A new winger who can operate on either flank. A midfielder, possibly a holding one. And 2 strikers, one who can hold the ball up, and one who's willing to go beyond the last defender into space. And a player who can get behind the team when they need it most, Ferdinand/Terry/Gerrard type figure.

Course Arsenal are looking at about £50M+ worth of talent needed, but thats the cost to keep up in this division, and with the turnover they're making, they have to invest some of the funds accumilated into the future of the club.
Arsenal have £71m to spend but our inadequate manager refuses to.

I don't believe Gallas is worth the space at the back, we can get someone far better and someone who says something once in a while.


David Dein sold us out, man. He's got a lot to do to redeem himself before he's ever coming back.
It's him or R&W Usmanov... I know which one I'd have.

BlueMoon
15-04-2008, 06:43 AM
I'm sure Sven will happily take Theo off you what with him taking him to the world cup... :D

iPwn
15-04-2008, 08:26 AM
I think your wrong in most of what you said.


Wenger shouldnt go. He is turning players into superstars. You cant just wait for it to happen over night. All of Arsenals players are good but id get rid of Lehman, Eboue was good last season but he isnt playing well on the right this season. Wenger hasnt won any trophies for 3 seasons. Not his fault that we have been dogged by injuries this season.
Yes we need players like Terry, Ferdinand, Gerrard. But who do you buy? I mean, personally id love Arteta or Cahill to come to Arsenal. Wouldnt mind Adebayor and Villa (Valencia) up front either, or maybe Obafemi (sp?) Martins. There are players i could sit here and say to buy, but it wont happen. Why? Wenger wont change a winning team to much. He will bring in, what i call, benchers, players to keep on the bench or play against teams like reading. We have come very far with a very small team, we have played great with one of the youngest clubs in the world. If not, THE youngest. So i think that Wenger should bring in about 4-5 players, but not someone that will ruin Arsenal. We can do well with the club we have already we just need fill-ins that can play how Arsenal should and not change to a reserve team asoon as one comes on.
Defence, hmm well, Gallas is good but isnt a captain. He is a great player but doesnt spur the team on like a captain should do.
Arsenal have a small squad. Wenger doesnt buy famous players because, they either cost to much e.g £27m, and then play rubbish or arent worth it. He buys players like Fabregas and Adebayor and turns them into legends. Theo wallcott will stay at Arsenal for a few more seasons and i think he is good enough to.We dont need a new goal keeper. Almunia isnt world class, but he is great. Senderos isnt rubbish but i think the reason why we still have him is because we dont have a fill-in when we have injuries other than him. Gilberto and Toure are the leaders in Arsenal but we need a player like Tony Adams (Generally speaking) to come in and boss the back and not be afraid to kill players if he has to. The summer transfers will tell us all we need to know.


on sticking with youngsters...
"We have the quality and we are young. I have worked with this team for a long time now and people don't know what that means. For example Alex Song played today. It is two years ago since I bought him. Today he played in a massive game and showed he has exceptional quality. He was not like that two years ago. We want to be rewarded for the quality we have."
http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=490168&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=%27It+is+hard+to+swallow+that+we+won%27t+win +the+title%27 <- Source thats a good link. It basically sums up the whole season and what he believes is a winning sqaud.

Advice - Give it to next summer and after the Transfers ask yourself, Can we do it. Infact ask me now, Yes, next season. Double if not triple. Someone is going to hurt Ronaldo, because they havent had hardly any injuries so its going to happen soon. Chelsea have been on bad form and with all this surrounding Avram, i dont think they will be great next season.

Teams to watch next Season:
Arsenal
Spurs
Liverpool
Manchester United

Possible top 4 there. Chelsea are going to loose Drogba i think, so.... we will see



SORRY FOR THE ESSAY

Rarelime
15-04-2008, 09:27 AM
Arsenal have a small squad. Wenger doesnt buy famous players because, they either cost to much e.g £27m, and then play rubbish or arent worth it. He buys players like Fabregas and Adebayor and turns them into legends. Theo wallcott will stay at Arsenal for a few more seasons and i think he is good enough to.

That is where Wenger is going wrong. Look at liverpool, spending £26.5m for Torres, people were thinking Benitez was mad spending that amount of money, but look whats happened, Torres has proved to be a revelation in his first season. Scoring 30 goals so far. Arsenal need to buy big this summer and get class internationals, before making a serious title challenge. As buying kids wont help, as they have next to no experience in big matches.


Chelsea have been on bad form and with all this surrounding Avram, i dont think they will be great next season.

Teams to watch next Season:
Arsenal
Spurs
Liverpool
Manchester United

Possible top 4 there. Chelsea are going to loose Drogba i think, so.... we will see


Also, you cannot count Chelsea out, I hate the way they go about things but they are a good team. They dont play well often, they get results and go places. They had a rubbish start this season and look where they have ended up - 2nd place, 5 points off top spot with 4 games to go. Can still be possible for them to pull it off you know, all the pressure is on Man United to keep the winning streak going, but they don't have easy fixtures to the end of the season.

Kasabian
15-04-2008, 09:40 AM
I'd just like to raise the issue on the players you'd release, I agree 110% with Gallas - He is NOT a captain, he's not even a leader. He hardly speaks to the player, and this results in costly mistakes.

I also noticed you didn't mention Touré?
I'd personally keep him, solid at the back.

Mortalized
15-04-2008, 11:53 AM
I think you should keep Bendtner too as he would probably develope into a great player in 2/3 years.


http://www.footballforums.net/forums/images/smilies/laugh.gif http://www.footballforums.net/forums/images/smilies/oops.gif Thats the worst comment ever seen on this forum

Tristan
15-04-2008, 12:45 PM
At the start of the season Adebayor was still playing off Henry even though he was without his presence. I don't think he's half the player that he was when he actually was playing off Henry.
?!
How'd you work that out?!
Last season, their linking was very poor. Henry and Adebayor imo, are very simular mentally. They're the front man, that gets the goals and recieves good balls from the other players on the team. They have their eyes on goal, they shoot and often don't look for the pass when in or near the 18 yard box.
He's much better without Henry, but he needs a good forward to supply him.

What? Get rid of Adebyor!?

He's well good. I think you should keep Bendtner too as he would probably develope into a great player in 2/3 years.
LOL.
Bendtner is awful. Put him up for sale, get a few quid for him. If someone doesn't buy him, give him a free transfer.

Xeck
15-04-2008, 12:48 PM
I need to get this out so here goes;

Firstly, David Dein should come back because he was an excellent chairman and he always backed Wenger financially as well as mentally. He was a great owner and wasn't just in it for the money. One of the main reasons why Thierry Henry left was because of David Dein's departure - it just proves what a close relationship Dein had with all the players. You don't get that at every club.

If Usamanov takes the majority of Arsenal then he's our owner. Another foreigner who knows nothing about football and nothing about England or tradition or anything. The only thing he knows about is money. He can piss off.

Secondly, Wenger's time is up. Yes, okay, he's won things with Arsenal but he's not winning things. He hasn't done so for 3 seasons now and beautiful, stylish football doesn't make up for not winning trophies. I'm sure we can find a suitable replacement.

I'd like to see Allardyce at Arsenal if I'm honest because I believe his approach would help. Mourinho would be ideal but we all know he wouldn't. We won't get a new manager anyway because the Arsenal board have there noses up his buttocks.

Thirdly, which has got to do with my second point. I would, seriously, only keep 6 first team players out of our usual first 16. Clichy, Walcott, Fabregas, Flamini, Hleb and Rosicky. I'm not bothered how good anyone else is - these players [when fit] are the most enthusiastic players for Arsenal.

On the other hand - here are the players I think should definately step on their bicycle and hop it; Gallas, Eboué, Adebayor, v.Persie, Gilberto, Senderos, Bendtner. Extreme, maybe. Rational, probably.

Anyway, that's what I think is the downfall over the past couple of years.

Most of what I feel has been said already so I'll keep this brief and stick to key points. Firstly, I think that the notion that Wenger needs to be replaced is ridiculous, especially if you want him replaced with someone like Allardyce who in my opinion is half the manager Wenger is. At the moment, I hope he doesn't leave for at least another decade or so because simply he's one of the best in the world and is exceptionally important to the club for reasons stated above.

Secondly, I'm shocked that you think we should get rid of some players who are the backbone of our squad such as Gallas and Adebayor. Gallas may not be captain-material but he is one of the best central defenders in the Premiership. Adebayor is our top goal scorer this season and has clearly shown a massive improvement in his game and just how good of a player he is. To get rid of him would be suicide, it would be like Liverpool getting rid of Torres. I do agree that Eboue needs to be replaced, as he doesn't seem good enough but I disagree that we should get rid of Senderos who has been, apart from a few games this season, in excellent form for us. Although Van Persie is injury prone he is an excellent player and has already scored key goals for us and proved his ability. Bendtner deserves a bit more patience as he is young and still learning, to get rid of him at this stage would be foolish. As for Gilberto, he was one of our players of the season last season and seems only to be off-form because of the lack of games he's played because of how influential Flamini has proved. Considering Flamini's future at Arsenal is not yet secured, and that when on form Gilberto is an excellent player, it would be foolish to get rid of him as well.

On to the key players you would keep, I agree those six are important, but I'm shocked you'd miss out Toure, Sagna, Eduardo and even Alumunia [as stated below, not world class, but clearly good enough], as well as some of the players you mentioned in players you'd like to leave. Toure is a world-class talent, Sagna has come into the team and played as if he's been here for a good 5 years already, Eduardo could clearly be an important player for us if he still is the same player when he recovers due to his goal scoring ability and Almunia has made hardly any, if any, key errors this season and has been consistent in goal.

In conclusion, I almost 100% disagree with you. If we rid our team of some of it's best players and Arsene Wenger we probably wont see silverware for many, many years to come. Arsene Wenger has a team of youngsters that should do nothing but improve, and considering the talent he brings in for often very low prices [financially beneficial too, Wenger has made a significant profit on players going in/out of the club], I'm very optimistic about the seasons to come for Arsenal, I'm sure silverware will come soon providing we're not hit with bad luck or more injuries. I don't even want Wenger to bring in that many players and respect that he's keeping faith in the team we have now. People always seem to doubt him, like when the media blasted him for saying we could go a season unbeaten, and then what did we go and do the following season? I do agree of course that Usmanov can rightfully piss off, but I say the same to David Dein.

Apologies for such a large post, but I can't stress enough how shocked I am at your opinions on who our key players are/are not, and it's very rare I come along an Arsenal fan who doubts Arsene Wenger, I assure you the vast majority are still 100% behind him.


That is where Wenger is going wrong. Look at liverpool, spending £26.5m for Torres, people were thinking Benitez was mad spending that amount of money, but look whats happened, Torres has proved to be a revelation in his first season. Scoring 30 goals so far. Arsenal need to buy big this summer and get class internationals, before making a serious title challenge. As buying kids wont help, as they have next to no experience in big matches.

In response to this, although I agree the team lacked experience in how to deal with the close to this season, the youngsters now have experience in big matches and in a title race, because for more than half the season we were top of the league and have made vast improvements upon the last two seasons where we finished 4th without any real challenge for the title for the entire campaign. As for spending big, Arsene has rarely "splashed the cash" since joining the club, and has still been very successful in terms of silverware. As for Torres, in all competitions this season he's only scored 3 more goals than Adebayor, who, according to Wikipedia, we only signed for "an undisclosed fee reported to be £3m". And they're the same age.

I've already said I think our youth can only improve, mentally through experience [which they would have gained a lot of from this season..] and ability-wise obviously because of their youth and because of our coaching staff. I'll stick with what I said before that I don't want Wenger to completely reform the team and if any I only want him to sign 2-3 new players. This team did put up a good challenge for the title this season, it's just a shame that it filtered out towards the end due to a combination of inexperience and a bit of bad luck.


?!
How'd you work that out?!
Last season, their linking was very poor. Henry and Adebayor imo, are very simular mentally. They're the front man, that gets the goals and recieves good balls from the other players on the team. They have their eyes on goal, they shoot and often don't look for the pass when in or near the 18 yard box.
He's much better without Henry, but he needs a good forward to supply him.

LOL.
Bendtner is awful. Put him up for sale, get a few quid for him. If someone doesn't buy him, give him a free transfer.

Agreed to the first part but I maintain what I said above about giving Bendtner more time.

The Undertaker
15-04-2008, 12:57 PM
Thirdly, which has got to do with my second point. I would, seriously, only keep 6 first team players out of our usual first 16. Clichy, Walcott, Fabregas, Flamini, Hleb and Rosicky. I'm not bothered how good anyone else is - these players [when fit] are the most enthusiastic players for Arsenal.

On the other hand - here are the players I think should definately step on their bicycle and hop it; Gallas, Eboué, Adebayor, v.Persie, Gilberto, Senderos, Bendtner. Extreme, maybe. Rational, probably.

Agreed with those 6 players, definetly our best.
Gallas makes some stupid decisions but is still a brilliant player. Eboue is a good player imo. Adebayor is one of those that got us to where we are. Van Persie hasn't found his feet since coming back from injury. The last three, i agree, should leave. They rarely do anything anymore and just seem to get in the way.

Simmzay
15-04-2008, 01:53 PM
I can't believe you guys are hating on Bendtner. He's pure class, he's only 19 and he's made more of an impact than most of our strikers. He's already scored important goals for us and he rarely even gets a start.

Geraint
15-04-2008, 03:11 PM
And the one player Wenger is supposedly going for, Ben Arfa, is a winger and Arsenal have two decent wingers.

Simmzay
15-04-2008, 05:16 PM
We don't have ONE traditional winger. There isn't a single player in the squad whose natural position is a winger.

Hleb - in the hole
Eboue - right back
Rosicky - CM
Diaby - CM
Walcott - striker

BlueMoon
15-04-2008, 05:16 PM
Arsenal are going for Heskey!!!

Geraint
15-04-2008, 07:57 PM
We don't have ONE traditional winger. There isn't a single player in the squad whose natural position is a winger.

Hleb - in the hole
Eboue - right back
Rosicky - CM
Diaby - CM
Walcott - striker

Hleb and Walcott play very well as wingers.

Gangster
15-04-2008, 08:03 PM
I need to get this out so here goes;

Firstly, David Dein should come back because he was an excellent chairman and he always backed Wenger financially as well as mentally. He was a great owner and wasn't just in it for the money. One of the main reasons why Thierry Henry left was because of David Dein's departure - it just proves what a close relationship Dein had with all the players. You don't get that at every club.

If Usamanov takes the majority of Arsenal then he's our owner. Another foreigner who knows nothing about football and nothing about England or tradition or anything. The only thing he knows about is money. He can piss off.

Secondly, Wenger's time is up. Yes, okay, he's won things with Arsenal but he's not winning things. He hasn't done so for 3 seasons now and beautiful, stylish football doesn't make up for not winning trophies. I'm sure we can find a suitable replacement.

I'd like to see Allardyce at Arsenal if I'm honest because I believe his approach would help. Mourinho would be ideal but we all know he wouldn't. We won't get a new manager anyway because the Arsenal board have there noses up his buttocks.

Thirdly, which has got to do with my second point. I would, seriously, only keep 6 first team players out of our usual first 16. Clichy, Walcott, Fabregas, Flamini, Hleb and Rosicky. I'm not bothered how good anyone else is - these players [when fit] are the most enthusiastic players for Arsenal.

On the other hand - here are the players I think should definately step on their bicycle and hop it; Gallas, Eboué, Adebayor, v.Persie, Gilberto, Senderos, Bendtner. Extreme, maybe. Rational, probably.

Anyway, that's what I think is the downfall over the past couple of years.
Lol, adebayor, van persie and eboue should leave?

Geraint
15-04-2008, 08:09 PM
Lol, adebayor, van persie and eboue should leave?

Van persie isn't the same after injury and eboue is awful.

Disaronno
15-04-2008, 08:21 PM
Van persie isn't the same after injury and eboue is awful.

Van persie has had 3 weeks to play about 40 mins? I dont expect him to play fantastic after 5 months out.

this may interest some - Here (http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?thisNav=News&article=490312&lid=NewsHeadline&Title=Wenger+-+I%27m+not+afraid+to+pay+big+money)

Oh and Eboue isnt playing well because he isnt a winger. Thats where he is being played. He is a RB. Which he was good at last season, but everyone has bad seasons.

Andys
15-04-2008, 08:25 PM
LOL.
Bendtner is awful. Put him up for sale, get a few quid for him. If someone doesn't buy him, give him a free transfer.

Sunderland will have him ;)

Cypher-
15-04-2008, 08:34 PM
Im Arsenal through and through till I die but Wenger should stay, when he came to Arsenal he had the players readymade to work with whilst others he brought like Henry. The fundamental team was there ie the famous back 4.

Bring in 4 or 5 experienced players and put them where? Replace Sagna? Gallas? Fabregas? Hleb? Ade? and then are they sitting on the bench? No! They will leave and what backups will we have? Hes building up a force and every team knows it, thats why Ferguson acted the way he did after the defeat at the weekend. Every neutral and opposition fan alike has told me the same thing: Arsenal are going to be dominant for years to come, and its true Wenger is doing it the right way, hes making these young stars stay here for the future and mature now, just be patient Arsene knows ;)

--ss--
15-04-2008, 08:47 PM
Wenger is a true legend and there is no need to replace him. I don't belive he was exactly after any tittles this season with the squads he was playing , he was giving all the less experienced players a shot and letting them show their potential. The squad is fine how it is. It's already got all top class players who in theory should be unbeatble but I don't think they're getting played right such.
Arsenal is still strong and a few losses isn't exactly the end for them, I bet you the team will be solid throughout next season.

BlueMoon
15-04-2008, 08:58 PM
Wenger is a true legend and there is no need to replace him. I don't belive he was exactly after any tittles this season with the squads he was playing , he was giving all the less experienced players a shot and letting them show their potential. The squad is fine how it is. It's already got all top class players who in theory should be unbeatble but I don't think they're getting played right such.
Arsenal is still strong and a few losses isn't exactly the end for them, I bet you the team will be solid throughout next season.
BlueMoon is a true legend, no need to get rid of him! :(

Geraint
15-04-2008, 09:05 PM
Im Arsenal through and through till I die but Wenger should stay, when he came to Arsenal he had the players readymade to work with whilst others he brought like Henry. The fundamental team was there ie the famous back 4.

Bring in 4 or 5 experienced players and put them where? Replace Sagna? Gallas? Fabregas? Hleb? Ade? and then are they sitting on the bench? No! They will leave and what backups will we have? Hes building up a force and every team knows it, thats why Ferguson acted the way he did after the defeat at the weekend. Every neutral and opposition fan alike has told me the same thing: Arsenal are going to be dominant for years to come, and its true Wenger is doing it the right way, hes making these young stars stay here for the future and mature now, just be patient Arsene knows ;)

He will obviously buy for the positions that he needs the most. If you had 7 strikers you wouldn't go and buy another one.

Discharge Man
15-04-2008, 09:11 PM
I think anyone who knows anything about football knows that Wenger's young team are doing absolutely nothing.

I reserve my judgement until this time next year, mind, as it will be interesting.

Geraint
15-04-2008, 09:14 PM
People say that Wenger's youngsters that he buys are brilliant but if you look at the young players that Ferguson has brought in, they are much better.

Discharge Man
15-04-2008, 09:27 PM
People say that Wenger's youngsters that he buys are brilliant but if you look at the young players that Ferguson has brought in, they are much better.
It's not like Wenger does have financial backing either...

Geraint
15-04-2008, 09:30 PM
It's not like Wenger does have financial backing either...

I mean Ferguson's are better. Wenger does have money to use but he never uses it.

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