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    Default My view on Arsenal

    I need to get this out so here goes;

    Firstly, David Dein should come back because he was an excellent chairman and he always backed Wenger financially as well as mentally. He was a great owner and wasn't just in it for the money. One of the main reasons why Thierry Henry left was because of David Dein's departure - it just proves what a close relationship Dein had with all the players. You don't get that at every club.

    If Usamanov takes the majority of Arsenal then he's our owner. Another foreigner who knows nothing about football and nothing about England or tradition or anything. The only thing he knows about is money. He can piss off.

    Secondly, Wenger's time is up. Yes, okay, he's won things with Arsenal but he's not winning things. He hasn't done so for 3 seasons now and beautiful, stylish football doesn't make up for not winning trophies. I'm sure we can find a suitable replacement.

    I'd like to see Allardyce at Arsenal if I'm honest because I believe his approach would help. Mourinho would be ideal but we all know he wouldn't. We won't get a new manager anyway because the Arsenal board have there noses up his buttocks.

    Thirdly, which has got to do with my second point. I would, seriously, only keep 6 first team players out of our usual first 16. Clichy, Walcott, Fabregas, Flamini, Hleb and Rosicky. I'm not bothered how good anyone else is - these players [when fit] are the most enthusiastic players for Arsenal.

    On the other hand - here are the players I think should definately step on their bicycle and hop it; Gallas, Eboué, Adebayor, v.Persie, Gilberto, Senderos, Bendtner. Extreme, maybe. Rational, probably.

    Anyway, that's what I think is the downfall over the past couple of years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DNAdamUK View Post
    I need to get this out so here goes;

    Firstly, David Dein should come back because he was an excellent chairman and he always backed Wenger financially as well as mentally. He was a great owner and wasn't just in it for the money. One of the main reasons why Thierry Henry left was because of David Dein's departure - it just proves what a close relationship Dein had with all the players. You don't get that at every club.

    If Usamanov takes the majority of Arsenal then he's our owner. Another foreigner who knows nothing about football and nothing about England or tradition or anything. The only thing he knows about is money. He can piss off.

    Secondly, Wenger's time is up. Yes, okay, he's won things with Arsenal but he's not winning things. He hasn't done so for 3 seasons now and beautiful, stylish football doesn't make up for not winning trophies. I'm sure we can find a suitable replacement.

    I'd like to see Allardyce at Arsenal if I'm honest because I believe his approach would help. Mourinho would be ideal but we all know he wouldn't. We won't get a new manager anyway because the Arsenal board have there noses up his buttocks.

    Thirdly, which has got to do with my second point. I would, seriously, only keep 6 first team players out of our usual first 16. Clichy, Walcott, Fabregas, Flamini, Hleb and Rosicky. I'm not bothered how good anyone else is - these players [when fit] are the most enthusiastic players for Arsenal.

    On the other hand - here are the players I think should definately step on their bicycle and hop it; Gallas, Eboué, Adebayor, v.Persie, Gilberto, Senderos, Bendtner. Extreme, maybe. Rational, probably.

    Anyway, that's what I think is the downfall over the past couple of years.
    I know I support Cardiff but I also really like Arsenal so I have strong views on them.

    You've said about the first team players and I would have to agree with the 6 you chose to keep but you'd get rid of Adebayor? Surely he is one reason why Arsenal are where they are now. I would keep him there. Gilberto is a dodgy one because he is a born leader. He was the only one with leadership skills yesterday. The rest I couldn't care less about. I would also keep Sagna because I think that was a very good buy this season.

    I also agree that Wenger should go. He's done what he can and most Arsenal fans will thank him. He only brings in young players and sometimes you can't just buy young. At times he doesn't seem to know what he is doing. Yesterday, he said he is only going to bring in 1 experienced player when quite clearly Arsenal need 4-5. If Arsenal are going to get anywhere in a few years, they really need to build a big strong squad and that will be difficult with only 9-10 players who should be there. If you look when Arsenal last one the premier league they had players like Pires, Ljungberg, Henry, Bergkamp etc. with some good youngsters.

    I think Arsenal's downfall this season was the loss of Henry but for the past 3 years it has been Wenger. He believes the youngesters are good enough because the can do well in the league cup. Arsenal need experience. Man United have it, Chelsea have it and Liverpool have it. Arsenal had it when they won the league.
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    What? Get rid of Adebyor!?

    He's well good. I think you should keep Bendtner too as he would probably develope into a great player in 2/3 years.


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    So you want to get rid of your top scorer.. okay.. and probably your best defender in gallas. I know people are pin pointing Gallas as a poor captain but that doesn't mean he's a poor player, just that Wenger doesn't realise how uninfluencial he is.

    Bendtner, Senderos, Eboue and also Lehmann HAVE to go, they are absolutely awful at times, especially the last two, Bendtner couldn't score an open goal even if he tried. Senderos thinks marking a player is standing 5 yards away from them and Eboue couldn't pick a pass for a yard away with no one in the way and lehmann is a total liability and is such a burden on the team at times, otherwise arsenal have a good squad of player, just need someone to push in new blood.

    They I believe, need 1 new player in each area of the pitch. New goalkeeper, a full back who can play either side. And strong centre back, one who's commanding in the air and has a presence about him. A new winger who can operate on either flank. A midfielder, possibly a holding one. And 2 strikers, one who can hold the ball up, and one who's willing to go beyond the last defender into space. And a player who can get behind the team when they need it most, Ferdinand/Terry/Gerrard type figure.

    Course Arsenal are looking at about £50M+ worth of talent needed, but thats the cost to keep up in this division, and with the turnover they're making, they have to invest some of the funds accumilated into the future of the club.
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    David Dein sold us out, man. He's got a lot to do to redeem himself before he's ever coming back.
    Seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardiff.City View Post
    I know I support Cardiff but I also really like Arsenal so I have strong views on them.

    You've said about the first team players and I would have to agree with the 6 you chose to keep but you'd get rid of Adebayor? Surely he is one reason why Arsenal are where they are now. I would keep him there. Gilberto is a dodgy one because he is a born leader. He was the only one with leadership skills yesterday. The rest I couldn't care less about. I would also keep Sagna because I think that was a very good buy this season.

    I also agree that Wenger should go. He's done what he can and most Arsenal fans will thank him. He only brings in young players and sometimes you can't just buy young. At times he doesn't seem to know what he is doing. Yesterday, he said he is only going to bring in 1 experienced player when quite clearly Arsenal need 4-5. If Arsenal are going to get anywhere in a few years, they really need to build a big strong squad and that will be difficult with only 9-10 players who should be there. If you look when Arsenal last one the premier league they had players like Pires, Ljungberg, Henry, Bergkamp etc. with some good youngsters.

    I think Arsenal's downfall this season was the loss of Henry but for the past 3 years it has been Wenger. He believes the youngesters are good enough because the can do well in the league cup. Arsenal need experience. Man United have it, Chelsea have it and Liverpool have it. Arsenal had it when they won the league.
    At the start of the season Adebayor was still playing off Henry even though he was without his presence. I don't think he's half the player that he was when he actually was playing off Henry.


    Quote Originally Posted by Andys View Post
    What? Get rid of Adebyor!?

    He's well good. I think you should keep Bendtner too as he would probably develope into a great player in 2/3 years.
    I don't think Bendtner will. I think he'll be a flop like the rest of our Birmingham drop-outs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoodstar View Post
    So you want to get rid of your top scorer.. okay.. and probably your best defender in gallas. I know people are pin pointing Gallas as a poor captain but that doesn't mean he's a poor player, just that Wenger doesn't realise how uninfluencial he is.

    Bendtner, Senderos, Eboue and also Lehmann HAVE to go, they are absolutely awful at times, especially the last two, Bendtner couldn't score an open goal even if he tried. Senderos thinks marking a player is standing 5 yards away from them and Eboue couldn't pick a pass for a yard away with no one in the way and lehmann is a total liability and is such a burden on the team at times, otherwise arsenal have a good squad of player, just need someone to push in new blood.

    They I believe, need 1 new player in each area of the pitch. New goalkeeper, a full back who can play either side. And strong centre back, one who's commanding in the air and has a presence about him. A new winger who can operate on either flank. A midfielder, possibly a holding one. And 2 strikers, one who can hold the ball up, and one who's willing to go beyond the last defender into space. And a player who can get behind the team when they need it most, Ferdinand/Terry/Gerrard type figure.

    Course Arsenal are looking at about £50M+ worth of talent needed, but thats the cost to keep up in this division, and with the turnover they're making, they have to invest some of the funds accumilated into the future of the club.
    Arsenal have £71m to spend but our inadequate manager refuses to.

    I don't believe Gallas is worth the space at the back, we can get someone far better and someone who says something once in a while.

    Quote Originally Posted by Simmzay View Post
    David Dein sold us out, man. He's got a lot to do to redeem himself before he's ever coming back.
    It's him or R&W Usmanov... I know which one I'd have.
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    I'm sure Sven will happily take Theo off you what with him taking him to the world cup...

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    I think your wrong in most of what you said.

    1. Wenger shouldnt go. He is turning players into superstars. You cant just wait for it to happen over night. All of Arsenals players are good but id get rid of Lehman, Eboue was good last season but he isnt playing well on the right this season. Wenger hasnt won any trophies for 3 seasons. Not his fault that we have been dogged by injuries this season.
    2. Yes we need players like Terry, Ferdinand, Gerrard. But who do you buy? I mean, personally id love Arteta or Cahill to come to Arsenal. Wouldnt mind Adebayor and Villa (Valencia) up front either, or maybe Obafemi (sp?) Martins. There are players i could sit here and say to buy, but it wont happen. Why? Wenger wont change a winning team to much. He will bring in, what i call, benchers, players to keep on the bench or play against teams like reading. We have come very far with a very small team, we have played great with one of the youngest clubs in the world. If not, THE youngest. So i think that Wenger should bring in about 4-5 players, but not someone that will ruin Arsenal. We can do well with the club we have already we just need fill-ins that can play how Arsenal should and not change to a reserve team asoon as one comes on.
    3. Defence, hmm well, Gallas is good but isnt a captain. He is a great player but doesnt spur the team on like a captain should do.
    4. Arsenal have a small squad. Wenger doesnt buy famous players because, they either cost to much e.g £27m, and then play rubbish or arent worth it. He buys players like Fabregas and Adebayor and turns them into legends. Theo wallcott will stay at Arsenal for a few more seasons and i think he is good enough to.
    We dont need a new goal keeper. Almunia isnt world class, but he is great. Senderos isnt rubbish but i think the reason why we still have him is because we dont have a fill-in when we have injuries other than him. Gilberto and Toure are the leaders in Arsenal but we need a player like Tony Adams (Generally speaking) to come in and boss the back and not be afraid to kill players if he has to. The summer transfers will tell us all we need to know.


    on sticking with youngsters...
    "We have the quality and we are young. I have worked with this team for a long time now and people don't know what that means. For example Alex Song played today. It is two years ago since I bought him. Today he played in a massive game and showed he has exceptional quality. He was not like that two years ago. We want to be rewarded for the quality we have."
    http://www.arsenal.com/article.asp?t...n+the+title%27 <- Source thats a good link. It basically sums up the whole season and what he believes is a winning sqaud.

    Advice - Give it to next summer and after the Transfers ask yourself, Can we do it. Infact ask me now, Yes, next season. Double if not triple. Someone is going to hurt Ronaldo, because they havent had hardly any injuries so its going to happen soon. Chelsea have been on bad form and with all this surrounding Avram, i dont think they will be great next season.

    Teams to watch next Season:
    Arsenal
    Spurs
    Liverpool
    Manchester United

    Possible top 4 there. Chelsea are going to loose Drogba i think, so.... we will see



    SORRY FOR THE ESSAY
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    Quote Originally Posted by iPwn View Post
    Arsenal have a small squad. Wenger doesnt buy famous players because, they either cost to much e.g £27m, and then play rubbish or arent worth it. He buys players like Fabregas and Adebayor and turns them into legends. Theo wallcott will stay at Arsenal for a few more seasons and i think he is good enough to.
    That is where Wenger is going wrong. Look at liverpool, spending £26.5m for Torres, people were thinking Benitez was mad spending that amount of money, but look whats happened, Torres has proved to be a revelation in his first season. Scoring 30 goals so far. Arsenal need to buy big this summer and get class internationals, before making a serious title challenge. As buying kids wont help, as they have next to no experience in big matches.

    Quote Originally Posted by iPwn View Post
    Chelsea have been on bad form and with all this surrounding Avram, i dont think they will be great next season.

    Teams to watch next Season:
    Arsenal
    Spurs
    Liverpool
    Manchester United

    Possible top 4 there. Chelsea are going to loose Drogba i think, so.... we will see
    Also, you cannot count Chelsea out, I hate the way they go about things but they are a good team. They dont play well often, they get results and go places. They had a rubbish start this season and look where they have ended up - 2nd place, 5 points off top spot with 4 games to go. Can still be possible for them to pull it off you know, all the pressure is on Man United to keep the winning streak going, but they don't have easy fixtures to the end of the season.

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    I'd just like to raise the issue on the players you'd release, I agree 110% with Gallas - He is NOT a captain, he's not even a leader. He hardly speaks to the player, and this results in costly mistakes.

    I also noticed you didn't mention Touré?
    I'd personally keep him, solid at the back.

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