MMO?

[MrPinkPanther]

History
As many of you know over the past 7-8 months, I have been developing an MMOCC known as rock demons. The aim was to let users socialise and play instruments with one another through an easy to use interface. But now towards the end of the development (coding wise) I am thinking all it really is is an MMOCC, its only unique feature is the instruments, (which although they are fun will lose their novelty). I am officially today letting RockDemons die, it can't compete with Habbo which already has such a large user base, BittyBay showed how hard that was and with many upcoming MMOCCs such as SokuCity, Urbanglobe and Zetolic I think it will be a tight space in the coming years.

The future
RockDemons itself may be dieing but the MMO project lives on. I have noticed that there aren’t actually a great deal of MMORPGs that are Web based out there, in fact the only one I can think of is Runescape.

In my opinion there are 2 major problems with modern MMORPGs. The first is loading times. For example if you want to play Runescape you have to choose your world, choose your quality then wait for ages for it to load and log you in. Using vector graphics I think I could get an a MMO to under 5 seconds loading time, making it much more accessible and easier to pick up and play. The second problem all the major MMORPGs have in common is a severe lack of user generated content. Look at Habbo, what's the most enjoyable bit? Building your room. Imagine these sorts of ideas could be incorporated into an MMORPG, building your own areas to battle in with hundreds of other users at the same time, setting traps for your friends and creating areas just for your clan. It all sounds awful exciting doesn’t it?

By integrating the already coded MMOCC system with an MMORPG one combined with fast loading times I really think I can create one of the richest gaming experience on the web.

Where do I come in to all this?
What I really need is a theme for this MMORPG, I want to know what the public wants. Do you want more Medieval type fantasy or has that genre already been exhausted, how about a crime based game? Or is that a bit of a cliché too? Post any ideas you have below and what you think of other peoples ideas. I need a theme to get this thing started.

[Cixso]

History
As many of you know over the past 7-8 months, I have been developing an MMOCC known as rock demons. The aim was to let users socialise and play instruments with one another through an easy to use interface. But now towards the end of the development (coding wise) I am thinking all it really is is an MMOCC, its only unique feature is the instruments, (which although they are fun will lose their novelty). I am officially today letting RockDemons die, it can't compete with Habbo which already has such a large user base, BittyBay showed how hard that was and with many upcoming MMOCCs such as SokuCity, Urbanglobe and Zetolic I think it will be a tight space in the coming years.

The future
RockDemons itself may be dieing but the MMO project lives on. I have noticed that there aren’t actually a great deal of MMORPGs that are Web based out there, in fact the only one I can think of is Runescape.

In my opinion there are 2 major problems with modern MMORPGs. The first is loading times. For example if you want to play Runescape you have to choose your world, choose your quality then wait for ages for it to load and log you in. Using vector graphics I think I could get an a MMO to under 5 seconds loading time, making it much more accessible and easier to pick up and play. The second problem all the major MMORPGs have in common is a severe lack of user generated content. Look at Habbo, what's the most enjoyable bit? Building your room. Imagine these sorts of ideas could be incorporated into an MMORPG, building your own areas to battle in with hundreds of other users at the same time, setting traps for your friends and creating areas just for your clan. It all sounds awful exciting doesn’t it?

By integrating the already coded MMOCC system with an MMORPG one combined with fast loading times I really think I can create one of the richest gaming experience on the web.

Where do I come in to all this?
What I really need is a theme for this MMORPG, I want to know what the public wants. Do you want more Medieval type fantasy or has that genre already been exhausted, how about a crime based game? Or is that a bit of a cliché too? Post any ideas you have below and what you think of other peoples ideas. I need a theme to get this thing started.

I would love something like runescape, obviously it won't competre as you stated, but something with the same idea of runescape.

Maybe make it more modern, the same genre of runescape but mordernise it.

Say guns instead of weapons such as whips, swords. Instead of pets, you could earn more men tot ravel with you in a war. You can create your own army base, just some ideas.

But along the same lines of runescape in terms of levels.

[MrPinkPanther]

I would love something like runescape, obviously it won't competre as you stated, but something with the same idea of runescape.

Maybe make it more modern, the same genre of runescape but mordernise it.

Say guns instead of weapons such as whips, swords. Instead of pets, you could earn more men tot ravel with you in a war. You can create your own army base, just some ideas.

But along the same lines of runescape in terms of levels.
Modern warfare could work quite well actually because as people go up levels they would have more health and be more powerful so you could have all the really good people commanding loads of the rubbish people into a battle. I like the idea, I think it could work really well. Hmmmm.

[Excellent1]

Ever played GunZ? Now thats a game.

[Cixso]

Modern warfare could work quite well actually because as people go up levels they would have more health and be more powerful so you could have all the really good people commanding loads of the rubbish people into a battle. I like the idea, I think it could work really well. Hmmmm.

More dieas:



Different stages, say you earn cash for winning a war, you need people to gather you food, wood so you could buy more gathers (aka just the general public) if you ever seen age of empires, the way there setlers gather food, but you don't see them gather it.
You could implement of noepoets, people can set up there own shops to sell guns, people can visit the shops.
Religions, you could have this, BUT MAKE YOUR OWN RELIGIONS UP, otherwise it could turn nasty with racistism. Say Redwart as 1 religion, and Bluetick as another (there just random names I just thought of) and people could join a religion, and have religious wars which the game could be about, Clans is another option perhaps, you would earn money through selling coin, which users buy tanks, or guns, ships, air craft depending how modern you want it to be.
You could create allies, enamies, you could set goals for your users such as the first to take out this automated base gets X

[Plux]

Ever played GunZ? Now thats a game.


I got bored after level 82 :(

[MrPinkPanther]

More dieas:



Different stages, say you earn cash for winning a war, you need people to gather you food, wood so you could buy more gathers (aka just the general public) if you ever seen age of empires, the way there setlers gather food, but you don't see them gather it.
You could implement of noepoets, people can set up there own shops to sell guns, people can visit the shops.
Religions, you could have this, BUT MAKE YOUR OWN RELIGIONS UP, otherwise it could turn nasty with racistism. Say Redwart as 1 religion, and Bluetick as another (there just random names I just thought of) and people could join a religion, and have religious wars which the game could be about, Clans is another option perhaps, you would earn money through selling coin, which users buy tanks, or guns, ships, air craft depending how modern you want it to be.
You could create allies, enamies, you could set goals for your users such as the first to take out this automated base gets X


I really like your ideas danny. Especially the one about religions although I wont be setting users goals, thats down to them in their own areas. Although I dont want it to turn into a multiplayer version of command and conquer with all of the tanks etc. I dont want to take it too far :). Once the concept is finalised I will start planning it.

I also need it so you are rewarded for going up levels but you cant be ultimate and just kill everyone easy. Although their should be 'safe zones' I think people should be killable in most places not like in Runescape where there is just a set area, it keeps you on your toes.

[Plux]

I say an anime theme towards it :P
The over-exaggerated large melee weapons, but still remaining with the guns.
Not many "free-roaming" MMORPGs have done this. :)

[MrPinkPanther]

I say an anime theme towards it :P
The over-exaggerated large melee weapons, but still remaining with the guns.
Not many "free-roaming" MMORPGs have done this. :)
It could work well but maybe expand on the ideas, anime is just a graphical style. Basically I think you mean Final Fantasy in real time where people can build areas etc ;)

Nice ideas people. Keep them coming.

[Plux]

It could work well but maybe expand on the ideas, anime is just a graphical style. Basically I think you mean Final Fantasy in real time where people can build areas etc ;)

Nice ideas people. Keep them coming.

I'd just love the idea of walking around with a sword x10 the size of my character LOL.

[MrPinkPanther]

I'd just love the idea of walking around with a sword x10 the size of my character LOL.
Is this big enough?
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/6305/swordld1.png (http://imageshack.us)

[Plux]

Is this big enough?
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/6305/swordld1.png (http://imageshack.us)

Yes :D!

[MrPinkPanther]

How about this?
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/8766/swordeb1.png (http://imageshack.us)


Anyway, I need more ideas people! Tell your friends about this thread. Ask them!

[Plux]

How about this?
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/8766/swordeb1.png (http://imageshack.us)


Anyway, I need more ideas people! Tell your friends about this thread. Ask them!


LOL! Perfect rofl :D
Just need the anime style of the guy now ;D

[Excellent1]

The x10 sword idea will not work, it looks unrealistic and silly. Anime graphics would take much longer to make aswell. I'd have it so users can make their own avatar and possibly do things for people. Say for instance you take RS, people need bones collecting, an old lady may need her dog walking, or her food collecting from the supermarket and you only have a certain ammount of time to get it. Base it around the sims, you can buy your own house, furnish it. If not the idea about doing things for people, perhaps a job were you can move up in the ranks? pay rise?

This would be a brilliant idea as it would be really addictive for people who want to have an online insight to the real world.

[Plux]

The x10 sword idea will not work, it looks unrealistic and silly. Anime graphics would take much longer to make aswell. I'd have it so users can make their own avatar and possibly do things for people. Say for instance you take RS, people need bones collecting, an old lady may need her dog walking, or her food collecting from the supermarket and you only have a certain ammount of time to get it. Base it around the sims, you can buy your own house, furnish it. If not the idea about doing things for people, perhaps a job were you can move up in the ranks? pay rise?

This would be a brilliant idea as it would be really addictive for people who want to have an online insight to the real world.

It's a great idea - but would VERY hard to get working.
Plus a lot of the online community enjoy games with the ability to fight and kill others, as well as NPCs :P

[Jebbo]

Just a few ideas:

Idea 1:
* a desert typed game where you could build, buy, trade, fight for land ect.
* it has cowboys on horses, with guns and knifes ect.

Idea 2:
* underwater type game
* in a big dome
* travel in submarines to other 'under water domes'
* in the future (year 3100)

Sorry for any spelling mistakes :)

[Plux]

Just a few ideas:

Idea 1:
* a desert typed game where you could build, buy, trade, fight for land ect.
* it has cowboys on horses, with guns and knifes ect.

Idea 2:
* underwater type game
* in a big dome
* travel in submarines to other 'under water domes'
* in the future (year 3100)

Sorry for any spelling mistakes :)


They sound very cheesy and very very childish... (it's something a 4 year old would enjoy lol!)

[Jebbo]

umm i supose lol :)

[MrPinkPanther]

So far I think the war one is my faviroute idea. It gives you a large scope to expand when you want to. People can build their own war zones to battle in and bases, it could be fun ^-^. If I do use the war idea the characters will be small so you can see everything around you and a lot of people can 'battle' at once. The Sims idea is nice but I think that it would end up too similar to habbo.

[Jebbo]

So far I think the war one is my faviroute idea. It gives you a large scope to expand when you want to. People can build their own war zones to battle in and bases, it could be fun ^-^. If I do use the war idea the characters will be small so you can see everything around you and a lot of people can 'battle' at once. The Sims idea is nice but I think that it would end up too similar to habbo.

didnt read the war one but yeah go with that one :)

[MrPinkPanther]

didnt read the war one but yeah go with that one :)
Im not 100% sure on it because it only suits males although most game players are males. If there are no other ideas I will take that futher :)

[:Edzy]

Something fun and original apealing to more than just children :)

[MrPinkPanther]

Something fun and original apealing to more than just children :)
Thats what Im looking for but I need the them first!

[Cixso]

Children?

Hmm, monsters that you can collect and fight with each other, trade etc

(Base of pokemon)

[MrPinkPanther]

Children?

Hmm, monsters that you can collect and fight with each other, trade etc

(Base of pokemon)
I did consider that but I decided it would be too like many text based games out there.

[Cixso]

I did consider that but I decided it would be too like many text based games out there.

Yeah, the key is to make it more appealing than most other games, such as tribalwars.net.

I loved that game, until I got taken over. Ah well. :)

[MrPinkPanther]

Yeah, the key is to make it more appealing than most other games, such as tribalwars.net.

I loved that game, until I got taken over. Ah well. :)
Im tempted to make a Warcraft 3 style MMO which is quite similar to that.

[Plux]

Im tempted to make a Warcraft 3 style MMO which is quite similar to that.

Warcraft 3 <333

[MrPinkPanther]

Warcraft 3 <333
NE FTW

[:Edzy]

something productive :)

and rewarding :)

[MrPinkPanther]

something productive :)

and rewarding :)
Ive been thinking about the second part alot but I dont want to say too much at the moment.

I aim for this game to be free since it will be free to produce and then to partner up with a hosting company offering them free advertisment on the site and maybe in client in exchange for Hosting (It will require a small VPS due to the small size of all the files etc).

What do you guys think of this kind of art style? (Took about 5 mins)
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2199/treeste3.png (http://imageshack.us)
I could go for that, or a more adult style or a cleaner 'web 2.0' style.

[Plux]

Ive been thinking about the second part alot but I dont want to say too much at the moment.

I aim for this game to be free since it will be free to produce and then to partner up with a hosting company offering them free advertisment on the site and maybe in client in exchange for Hosting (It will require a small VPS due to the small size of all the files etc).

What do you guys think of this kind of art style? (Took about 5 mins)
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2199/treeste3.png (http://imageshack.us)
I could go for that, or a more adult style or a cleaner 'web 2.0' style.

Pretty nice, maybe a bit more "gothic" if you get me? Like the original Warcraft 1 trees.

[MrPinkPanther]

Pretty nice, maybe a bit more "gothic" if you get me? Like the original Warcraft 1 trees.
Undead style ;P. But not that bad

[Plux]

Undead style ;P. But not that bad


Yeah :D

[MrPinkPanther]

Caution! Tree update!
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/7341/treesny1.png (http://imageshack.us)


Anyway, any other theme ideas?

[Cixso]

So just to make things clear, you are using the army idea or...?

[Kenpachi]

So just to make things clear, you are using the army idea or...?


I think he wants a few more ideas but he makes his final decision.

[MrPinkPanther]

Im debating between the Army and the Warcraft/Tribalwars idea unless there are any more ideas. :)

[Kenpachi]

Maybe a cross-section of both?

[MrPinkPanther]

Maybe a cross-section of both?
Hmm, I'm not to sure that would work. Any other opinions/ideas?

[MrPinkPanther]

Ok, I've gone with the 'warcraft' idea. At the moment I'm fiddling around with interface graphics like:
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/1305/basebaruk4.png

[Cixso]

Ok, I've gone with the 'warcraft' idea. At the moment I'm fiddling around with interface graphics like:
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/1305/basebaruk4.png

Thats looks alright, but theres a little white thing in the left twirl tree root. :P It looks very odd.

[MrPinkPanther]

Thats looks alright, but theres a little white thing in the left twirl tree root. :P It looks very odd.
Oh yeah, Im still working on it ;)

[MrPinkPanther]

Update: Amongst other things I have been working on I have improved the base interface to give it a more clean and realistic look.



http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/1305/basebaruk4.png





http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9517/basebarbl4.png

[madchild24]

Looks better, I'm not digging the Yellow, the old green tree top looked better imo

[RoundTrees]

i like that acctully :) but the acctul game wont be in that little black box will it? or does it expand ?

[MrPinkPanther]

i like that acctully :) but the acctul game wont be in that little black box will it? or does it expand ?
No thats for stats. The full game will be in around an 800x800 px box. For those who are wondering what the 3 boxes on the side are for....items that give stat bonuses.

Such as this pendant (Thanks danny for the idea):
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/3759/pendantvm4.png (http://imageshack.us)
Note: It will be 50x50 pixel in one of those small boxes which is why the chain isnt high quality, you wont notice it :)

[RoundTrees]

okay, looks very good. have you chosen which idea your going with?

[Trinity]

okay, looks very good. have you chosen which idea your going with?


Ok, I've gone with the 'warcraft' idea.

Sorted.

[MrPinkPanther]

As Trinity said Im going with the warcraft idea. So far the items I have created are:
-Grass
-Walls/gates
-Flags
-Trees
-Barrels
-Rocks

Any other ideas?

[RoundTrees]

Water for Lakes, Mud, Carts ??

Could i see these items please ?

[Fehm]

Lol, I love the idea and i wish you allt he best for the future, if your needing any community support staff, or any other staff along those lines then i'll be very happy to help. I do a little bit of coding as well! lol

Good luck and best wishes for the future!

[MrPinkPanther]

Water for Lakes, Mud, Carts ??

Could i see these items please ?
Thanks, I was going to do different terrain types but I like the carts idea. As for the second part....you will have to wait ;)


Lol, I love the idea and i wish you allt he best for the future, if your needing any community support staff, or any other staff along those lines then i'll be very happy to help. I do a little bit of coding as well! lol

Good luck and best wishes for the future!
Thanks, I may do in the future so keep an eye out!