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Earthquake
22-10-2008, 09:40 PM
What do you think, people creating more then two movies on the same thing, a bad thing?

Excluding Harry potter, American Pie & Scary movie as those following films make sence like a tv series.

Do you think its abit OTT when they create more then 2 films on the same film idea? take High school musical for instance, from their second film, it seems their just there to make money, the first two films was a good hit, wasn't a great film as I hated it but it was worth watching if you was under 12.

Minstrels
22-10-2008, 09:42 PM
Some it's OK, some it's not.

simplymagic
22-10-2008, 09:45 PM
i understand what you mean. Like final destanation films are basically the same film. But high skool musical 3 is way better than 1 & 2 in my mind and the best. And people will say "omg, why have they put it in the cinema when 1 & 2 was on disney channel", Its better in cinema.
Like now there making madagasca(sp?) 2. That will probs be like 1 so i cans ee your point.

Minstrels
22-10-2008, 09:46 PM
i understand what you mean. Like final destanation films are basically the same film. But high skool musical 3 is way better than 1 & 2 in my mind and the best. And people will say "omg, why have they put it in the cinema when 1 & 2 was on disney channel", Its better in cinema.
Like now there making madagasca(sp?) 2. That will probs be like 1 so i cans ee your point.
No it's not... HSM is all about the SAME school SINGING, CHEERLEADING or playing BASKETBALL. Nothing else. Final Destination is a series of classic stories. A plain and a rollercoaster are not the same. At least they can think of different deaths and ways to start it off. :rolleyes:

Loqo
22-10-2008, 09:52 PM
Absolutely, most sequels that hit the third or more are just their to sell, they dont care about the story or script of the movie as much as highly advertising it in hope that it will sell as good as it's first 2 parts. American Pie was great, simply because they have moved on, High School, college (Moving out together) and finally married. I admit, Band Camp and Beta House were unnecessary and another money grabber. But any great movie needs to stop itself before it finally kills itself off. High School Musical as you said is a prime example of this, same cast doing the same old **** over and over until it finally kills itself off.

- Peter

GommeInc
22-10-2008, 09:55 PM
Varies really. But usually they stop at 2 because it does get boring. With Airplane!, they only made 2 films - Airplane! and Airplane ll : The Sequel. Airplane is one of the top ten funniest movies/films ever made!

I can only think of one exception, which is Austin Powers. Goldmember was hilarious but that went onto a different track and didn't follow the same old story line.

Neversoft
22-10-2008, 11:48 PM
Of course it's not a bad thing. If no one made more than two films on the same thing then trilogies wouldn't exist. You seem to be basing this on High School Musical alone while forgetting films like Lord of the Rings: Return of the King, The Godfather: Part III, Star Wars Episode I, II, III and VI, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, Back to the Future III and many more.

Kardan
22-10-2008, 11:59 PM
Absolutely, most sequels that hit the third or more are just their to sell, they dont care about the story or script of the movie as much as highly advertising it in hope that it will sell as good as it's first 2 parts. American Pie was great, simply because they have moved on, High School, college (Moving out together) and finally married. I admit, Band Camp and Beta House were unnecessary and another money grabber. But any great movie needs to stop itself before it finally kills itself off. High School Musical as you said is a prime example of this, same cast doing the same old **** over and over until it finally kills itself off.

- Peter

I think Shrek 3 is a good example of this - Shrek 1 and 2 were good, but 3 was awful.

I think Indiana Jones and the original Star Wars trilogy had good third films in the series. Nevermind, Neversoft just named all of the good films :P

GommeInc
23-10-2008, 09:05 AM
Of course it's not a bad thing. If no one made more than two films on the same thing then trilogies wouldn't exist. You seem to be basing this on High School Musical alone while forgetting films like Lord of the Rings: Return of the King, The Godfather: Part III, Star Wars Episode I, II, III and VI, Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, Back to the Future III and many more.
Am I the only one that has noticed that they are reasonably serious films? Back to the Future seems to of taken years to be written and alot of time seems to of gone into it. HSM for example is just created to excite the younger population, which is good, but you shouldn't take them seriously and they won't hire amazing actors most of the time e.g. the brother and sister combo, they're incredibly bad actors but children won't notice this. Zac Efron is a bad actor, and after talking to aload of my friends the people that actually like him are the ones that only watch him for sexual reasons :P

I'm trying to think of a trilogy series that didn't take a long time to make and works in the same way as High School Musical, and was actually good for the older generations in terms of acting. But I can't think of any :P

LoveToStack
23-10-2008, 05:33 PM
Where the same story carries on throughout the films are generally better, star wars for example. Obvs exceptions - Harry P.
i also thought xmen three was poor.

Neversoft
23-10-2008, 05:36 PM
It's just Marvel that aren't good at making third films. X-Men III, Spider-man 3, Blade Trinity, etc. They were all nothing compared to their predecessors.

RedStratocas
23-10-2008, 05:39 PM
well film-making is a business. if it will make money, they'll do it. so unless everyone unanimously decides that they would not pay money to see a second or third of a certain movie, they're going to make it. but the market speaks for itself, and sequels sell.

Earthquake
23-10-2008, 05:43 PM
well film-making is a business. if it will make money, they'll do it. so unless everyone unanimously decides that they would not pay money to see a second or third of a certain movie, they're going to make it. but the market speaks for itself, and sequels sell.
If it was just their to make money, it wouldn't be much of a film to actually watch -.-

DrLacero
23-10-2008, 05:46 PM
If it was just their to make money, it wouldn't be much of a film to actually watch -.-

Most films these days are about money, not story or art or original concepts...


It's just Marvel that aren't good at making third films. X-Men III, Spider-man 3, Blade Trinity, etc. They were all nothing compared to their predecessors.

Marvel + Outside production company. Maybe in a few years we'll see if they can on their own when Iron Man 3 comes around.

Inseriousity.
23-10-2008, 06:09 PM
I liked Pirates of the Caribbean 3..
and some of the good films are the third ones lol including Star Wars 3 :)

Ashley 12344
23-10-2008, 09:39 PM
All down to opinion. You don't like some Trilogies, some people do.
If films weren't about money, you'd see one hell of a lot less being made.

Coldplay
23-10-2008, 09:43 PM
When you say number 3, I'm presuming you mean Threquels.

Some are good, some are not.

Just the luck of the draw.

GommeInc
24-10-2008, 08:36 PM
I liked Pirates of the Caribbean 3..
and some of the good films are the third ones lol including Star Wars 3 :)
Wasn't the third film the 6th film made :P

Jordan:A
24-10-2008, 08:40 PM
Scary Movie 3 was hillarious

Technologic
25-10-2008, 02:54 PM
matrix tirlogy please

The Professor
25-10-2008, 03:20 PM
I thought Austin Powers 3 was really strong, but that and the exceptions neversoft listed seem to be members of select club of good 3rd films, generally they're an abomination to their respective series.

Inseriousity.
25-10-2008, 03:31 PM
Wasn't the third film the 6th film made :P

yeah but I meant of the newer ones... I didn't like the classics :P

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