Sulake cracking down on VIP

[Geraint]

Well, then, it looks like we'll have to meet up somewhere and all chip in to keep Habbox alive.

[jrh2002]

Well, then, it looks like we'll have to meet up somewhere and all chip in to keep Habbox alive.

that would be a good headline :o habbo force kids to meet to keep a site going by not allowing them to buy vip online lol maybe sierk has a basement and can take a few hostages.

[Geraint]

that would be a good headline :o habbo force kids to meet to keep a site going by not allowing them to buy vip online lol maybe sierk has a basement and can take a few hostages.

I hope he has a whip and some chains. I'll volunteer.


A better headline would be:

POLICE CALLED IN TO STOP HABBO RIOTERS

[GoldenMerc]

I hope he has a whip and some chains. I'll volunteer.


A better headline would be:

POLICE CALLED IN TO STOP HABBO RIOTERS
god not your ideas, You and matt are nutters :'(

[Wootzeh]

I hope he has a whip and some chains. I'll volunteer.


A better headline would be:

POLICE CALLED IN TO STOP HABBO RIOTERS
BLOODY CARDIFF HOOLIGANS

[Geraint]

god not your ideas, You and matt are nutters :'(

We are both geniuses tbh.


BLOODY CARDIFF HOOLIGANS

Oh, it'd be Judge Judy and his Rhyl hooligans.

[GoldenMerc]

da offical protest in cardiff:
http://www.tehupload.com/uploads/3593a79ebdd91e2hx.png

[jrh2002]

da offical protest in cardiff:
http://www.tehupload.com/uploads/3593a79ebdd91e2hx.png

they are just coming to hablowhotel.com to do some filming :o we will make a fortune with such stunners

[GoldenMerc]

i think the picture was from a we want our pensions back ! protest but idk i just googled petrol bomb protest came up with this :S

[Geraint]

i think the picture was from a we want our pensions back ! protest but idk i just googled petrol bomb protest came up with this :S

Looks like some Luxembourg protest to me.

[GoldenMerc]

its a protest outside habbos office in reading init
or london
or w.e it is.
but they thought it would be a good idea to bring flats to show where their from.

[Alkaz]

Maybe the VIP could be a subscription to a monthly newsletter costing £1, and with it you get a cool coloured name on the forum to show you brought it and some cool extras?

[HotelUser]

Maybe the VIP could be a subscription to a monthly newsletter costing £1, and with it you get a cool coloured name on the forum to show you brought it and some cool extras?

Or Habbox can register a new domain unrelated to Habbo and sell VIP there, and it just so happens both domains share the same database :P.

[J0SH]

its a protest outside habbos office in reading init
or london
or w.e it is.
but they thought it would be a good idea to bring flats to show where their from.

It's in Islington ;)

[Black_Apalachi]

I noticed this yesterday too and thought, don't most fansites offer VIP? :S

I don't see the point really, it's not like you ever hear of people being scammed when buying VIP is it? And with respect, I wouldn't have thought it was any of Sulake's business as long as there's no furni/cedits being sold for money.

I think the idea of "donate" and get "free VIP" is the best idea. Although Sulake will probably disallow this also seeing as they can make up whatever rules they like :rolleyes:.


http://habbopetition.com (http://habbopetition.com/) Hoping to get a powerful email in there for visitors just to click submit and it will be sent to sulake.

Nice idea :). This paragraph just needs some editing though:



A big company such as Sulake can afford its over heads where as a fansite run by the people that enjoy your game and pay for items/credits/etc which provides your company's revenue can not. Once I get my fansite started I'll be contacting "TAKE-A-STAND" ;).

Edited by ,Jess, (Forum Super Moderator): Accidental double posts merged.

[e5]

I think it will reduce the amount of pointless fansites aswell, as Habbox, who are big can find smart ways around this.

[Rapidshare]

I noticed this yesterday too and thought, don't most fansites offer VIP? :S

I don't see the point really, it's not like you ever hear of people being scammed when buying VIP is it? And with respect, I wouldn't have thought it was any of Sulake's business as long as there's no furni/cedits being sold for money.

I think the idea of "donate" and get "free VIP" is the best idea. Although Sulake will probably disallow this also seeing as they can make up whatever rules they like :rolleyes:.



Nice idea :). This paragraph just needs some editing though:



Once I get my fansite started I'll be contacting "TAKE-A-STAND" ;).

Well, to be honest, They gonna have a few mistakes becasue i bet ya it took them a whole day and that is class :P

[Judge Judy]

Oh, it'd be Judge Judy and his Rhyl hooligans.
Yeah mate :P

What everyone has realised, Sulake are just being evil. So what we do is go to your local swimming pool, wear an afro, stand next to the steps and go closed due to AIDs. People will listen that way.

On serious note, other people's idea like the raffle and charity is a good idea.

[Rapidshare]

It's in Islington ;)


Anyone wanna stand outside looking geeky with about 400 black boys walking past every hour?

[Tintinnabulate]

http://habbopetition.com Hoping to get a powerful email in there for visitors just to click submit and it will be sent to sulake.

I like the email system =] and have sent an email.

[Shawnstra]

Personally, I feel quite outraged to this rule set by Sulake. Habbo fansites are a place where the Habbo fanbase usually socializes, and discuss about Habbo, which then brings them profit. I can't comprehend how they are worried that a little fansite will affect their business. Although it may take away some of the money that Habbos spend on Habbo itself, in the long run, due to the active community present in these forums, this will thus result in spending more time on Habbo and therefore bringing in them more profit through credit purchasal.

I think a strongly worded letter should be sent to Sulake to explain to them the current situation for them to empathize that fansites require the existence of such services to survive, and thus contribute to the Habbo community. So what if a fansite makes profit, it is like a way to thank them for their hard work. It is no scam. I pay for VIP. I am fully aware of the extras I will get, and I willingly pay them money. It is a win-win-win (TRIPLE :P) solution. I get the extras, Habbox gets the money, Habbo gets the money (through the existence of fansites).

I feel that the competition thing is a good idea, however, upon knowing so, probably Habbo may set another rule, no competitions that require an entry fee, or no competitions at all! This may even severly affect the situation.

Hopefully Sulake will understand the need for this premium services and realise it is a win-win solution.

[GommeInc]

Maybe the VIP could be a subscription to a monthly newsletter costing £1, and with it you get a cool coloured name on the forum to show you brought it and some cool extras?
I doubt they'll allow you to purchase a newsletter when you can't even purchase VIP :P But that is one loop hole around the rule, but it may come under a "premium service."

I really doubt a Habbo petition is going to solve anything. If anything, your site will closed down for spamming.

I really would like to know what the point is behind this rule. It can't be because Habbo/Sulake dislike the fact fansites are making money through their service, because I am very sure Habbo/Sulake are not that thick to realise that fansite members will start paying for credits once the premium services are cancelled. And I am very certain they realise that fansites, including forums in the fansites, need some money to survive and maintain services. There seems to be no good reason for this rule, other than anti-competitive reasons, which shows a business' weakness and suggests they are possibly losing money in some way, shape or form.

[Yonder]

The rule states you cannot charge for premium services. That means no vip, no entry to competitions, no paid mailshot/newsletter, etc The only way to do it is if there is a totally seperate website that has nothing to do with Habbo(x) that provides a service that you pay for but you know Habbo will get pathetic and just set new rules about linking to sites that offer paid premium services.

Habbo petition wont be closed down its not spamming. At least im trying to stand up to it.

[le harry]

worst comes to worst, hxf closes down and we all migrate to xbox live

[GommeInc]

The rule states you cannot charge for premium services. That means no vip, no entry to competitions, no paid mailshot/newsletter, etc The only way to do it is if there is a totally seperate website that has nothing to do with Habbo(x) that provides a service that you pay for but you know Habbo will get pathetic and just set new rules about linking to sites that offer paid premium services.

Habbo petition wont be closed down its not spamming. At least im trying to stand up to it.
Then just email them discussing problems, you have more chance of getting through to them than just aload of spam emails which they won't bother answering. 1 email means more of chance of a reply. They won't reply to every email they get sent from the petition site, unless you're the sort of person who goes through pages and pages of emails in your spam folder reading each and everyone, then replying to them all :P

Plus linking to another site for VIP services won't work, HabboxForum is a Habbo fanforum. Unless you're suggesting linking to another site that sells the premium services for HabboxForum, but that will still mean you're paying for premium services on a Habbo Fansite :P The rule states premium services for a Habbo fansite, NOT premium services by internal means only. They generalised, to cover all areas of buying premium services, so an external source cannot be used.

[Kardan]

...Or just turn Habbox Forum into a general teen forum and not focusing on Habbo?

[Devestation]

By the sounds of it we're gonna have to think of some pretty crafty workarounds or sierk will be out of pocket :(

Do as HHGS did;
Do it with 'Super Membership' as that isn't classed as VIP.


...Or just turn Habbox Forum into a general teen forum and not focusing on Habbo?

Urm, that takes away the concept of 'habboxforum'?

[Kardan]

Do as HHGS did;
Do it with 'Super Membership' as that isn't classed as VIP.



Urm, that takes away the concept of 'habboxforum'?

But wouldn't you rather have the same community with a different forum name then no forum at all because of lack of funds?

And super membership would still be paying for a premium service.

[Ostinato]

But wouldn't you rather have the same community with a different forum name then no forum at all because of lack of funds?

And super membership would still be paying for a premium service.

I agree, but even if we directed the forum away from habbo it'd mean we couldn't use any images or anything...

[Sepron]

If Habbox need it that much why dont they come unofficial so they get to keep vip, just the same tbh less noobs coming on.

[Decode]

The fansite way applies to official and unofficial fansites alike, I can see a lot of forums having to close down due to them not being able to keep up with payments - It's an incredibly silly rule.
Im sure it only applys to official fansites.

[Yonder]

Then just email them discussing problems, you have more chance of getting through to them than just aload of spam emails which they won't bother answering. 1 email means more of chance of a reply. They won't reply to every email they get sent from the petition site, unless you're the sort of person who goes through pages and pages of emails in your spam folder reading each and everyone, then replying to them all :P

Plus linking to another site for VIP services won't work, HabboxForum is a Habbo fanforum. Unless you're suggesting linking to another site that sells the premium services for HabboxForum, but that will still mean you're paying for premium services on a Habbo Fansite :P The rule states premium services for a Habbo fansite, NOT premium services by internal means only. They generalised, to cover all areas of buying premium services, so an external source cannot be used.


What i said it you couldn't link as they wouldn't allow that they'd make a rule up. I just mean an offsite webpage that allows you to donate to a site not habbo related (not a habbo fansite), no involvement with Habbox but all donations to the known habbo fansite pays for the dedicated server which the non habbo fansite is hosted on which so happens to be where Habbox is hosted for free as courtesy of the dedicated owner.

Example: i buy dedicated server (not me but this is an example before anyone bites my head off) then i put a web page that you can donate to which then pays for the dedicated server but i offer nicely to host Habbox for free.

Only problem is giving extras to the members of the forum. That is where it will come down to with Habbo as which ever way you look at it if they get something buy paying for it its classed as a premium service.

I just know for a fact as soon as you use a loop hole they will create a new rule which will stop it.

We need a way to create more money from adverts tbh, get sponsors from a web host must be some webhost out there that will work together with such a big forum.

Speak to teen targeted companies to advertise directly on Habbox.

ps i took the form down on Habbo petition not because of spam but of the bad response from the posts plus i dont want anything to come back on Habbox but im keeping the information and the group open so if you truely believe that Sulake are being out of order maybe you should join it.


If Habbox need it that much why dont they come unofficial so they get to keep vip, just the same tbh less noobs coming on.



Im sure it only applys to official fansites.

The Fansite Way has been updated. Whether you are an Official Fansite or an Unofficial Fansite, you must follow the Fansite Way.
- Charge users for premium services such as VIP access.

[Johno]

At the end of the day, it's our money and we should be allowed to spend it on what we want. If I don't buy VIP, its not like I am going to spend the money on credits...

Its a very bad idea on behalf of Sulake and I do really hope that some legal advice is taken so we can hopefully overcome this :)

[jrh2002]

...Or just turn Habbox Forum into a general teen forum and not focusing on Habbo?

This is a great idea and thought I better say so as others have ignored you in this thread for some reason lol

I will explain what can be done and presume its what you are thinking :)

1) Change habboxforum.com to another domain that is aimed at teens and older ;) (stop trying to get rid of us old ones) and general online gaming.

2) when people go to habboxforum.com it goes to a page that says habboxforum.com is no longer a habbo hotel fansite has changed name due to its popularity and is now aimed at teens and alot of online games including habbo. have a link to go to the new site explaining that people will still be registered as before and maybe even a mass email to all members explaining this.
Remember to add the reason for this move would be down to sulakes bullying tactics.

3) remove habbo graphics from the actual skins but i dont think they can do much about them in posts :) if they do ask you to remove them all from the posts say of course we will and just ask them to send links to every post they require removing ;) they will soon realise that will take them forever lol
remove habbo avatars from the site and then its up to members to add their own :) habbo want habbo ones removing they must email the links to each member profile they need changing ;)

4) resign hx.com as official :o the official list was laughed at for years because the biggest and most popular fansite was not on the list :) this will make their list a total joke and waste of time :) we all know the only reason they have it is so they can throw their weight around at teens who do whatever they say.

5) point out the rebranded forum from hx.com explaining although it is a teen forum there is alot of habbo related content including trading etc.

6) alter the graphics forums so there is also options to add other online games alts in their on forums so its not just habbo.

7) add some trading forums alongside habbo trading so its aimed at other games :) you could do this by making the main category online game trading and then a list of subforums opens with runescape, habbo and anything else popular.

8) get the new domain known with alot of other online games to bring in more users who i hope are more mature than the average habbo although it seems most are pretty good on here :)

9) hxf needs to evolve and getting away from mainly habbo would be good :) of course an unofficial hx.com could still point habbos this direction and also get new members from more mature games :)

This would keep most the current members and gain you some more :) it would also make habbos who are getting fed up with habbo realise there are more mature or different game sites out there :) that would take people away from habbo slowly and they will have shot theirselves in their webbed feet with 6 toes on each.

[Yonder]

This is a great idea and thought I better say so as others have ignored you in this thread for some reason lol

I will explain what can be done and presume its what you are thinking :)

1) Change habboxforum.com to another domain that is aimed at teens and older ;) (stop trying to get rid of us old ones) and general online gaming.

2) when people go to habboxforum.com it goes to a page that says habboxforum.com is no longer a habbo hotel fansite has changed name due to its popularity and is now aimed at teens and alot of online games including habbo. have a link to go to the new site explaining that people will still be registered as before and maybe even a mass email to all members explaining this.
Remember to add the reason for this move would be down to sulakes bullying tactics.

3) remove habbo graphics from the actual skins but i dont think they can do much about them in posts :) if they do ask you to remove them all from the posts say of course we will and just ask them to send links to every post they require removing ;) they will soon realise that will take them forever lol
remove habbo avatars from the site and then its up to members to add their own :) habbo want habbo ones removing they must email the links to each member profile they need changing ;)

4) resign hx.com as official :o the official list was laughed at for years because the biggest and most popular fansite was not on the list :) this will make their list a total joke and waste of time :) we all know the only reason they have it is so they can throw their weight around at teens who do whatever they say.

5) point out the rebranded forum from hx.com explaining although it is a teen forum there is alot of habbo related content including trading etc.

6) alter the graphics forums so there is also options to add other online games alts in their on forums so its not just habbo.

7) add some trading forums alongside habbo trading so its aimed at other games :) you could do this by making the main category online game trading and then a list of subforums opens with runescape, habbo and anything else popular.

8) get the new domain known with alot of other online games to bring in more users who i hope are more mature than the average habbo although it seems most are pretty good on here :)

9) hxf needs to evolve and getting away from mainly habbo would be good :) of course an unofficial hx.com could still point habbos this direction and also get new members from more mature games :)

This would keep most the current members and gain you some more :) it would also make habbos who are getting fed up with habbo realise there are more mature or different game sites out there :) that would take people away from habbo slowly and they will have shot theirselves in their webbed feet with 6 toes on each.

Its a good idea, it would be a big change basically seperating its self from Habbo(x) but if needs be.

[Lee]

Really silly, honestly its not doing much harm, i'm with the 'start a protest' people!

[Decode]

Habbox could simply say that they were going to remove the rare values unless habbo remove the rule. I think the fansite rules would have to be changed then because the value of rares would increase and people wouldn't buy credits because it would be like 100 credits for a Hc :P


EDIT: Or simply re-word the VIP page so "You can donate £1.50 to Habbox and as a reward you will be put in a special usergroup".

[Pabble]

The fansite way applies to official and unofficial fansites alike, I can see a lot of forums having to close down due to them not being able to keep up with payments - It's an incredibly silly rule.
i agree, i think of it as a reward to the owners of the site after all the work they put into the site. :eusa_wall

[Shawnstra]

This is a great idea and thought I better say so as others have ignored you in this thread for some reason lol

I will explain what can be done and presume its what you are thinking :)

1) Change habboxforum.com to another domain that is aimed at teens and older ;) (stop trying to get rid of us old ones) and general online gaming.

2) when people go to habboxforum.com it goes to a page that says habboxforum.com is no longer a habbo hotel fansite has changed name due to its popularity and is now aimed at teens and alot of online games including habbo. have a link to go to the new site explaining that people will still be registered as before and maybe even a mass email to all members explaining this.
Remember to add the reason for this move would be down to sulakes bullying tactics.


I think just the idea of HxF, one of the largest fansites dedicated to Habbo who has such a huge impact on Habbo is going to change into a general online gaming/teen site, it may reconsider its decision. Imagine the amount of bad press and mockery. But will Habbox.com remain as so? Or only HxF being changed.

[jrh2002]

I think just the idea of HxF, one of the largest fansites dedicated to Habbo who has such a huge impact on Habbo is going to change into a general online gaming/teen site, it may reconsider its decision. Imagine the amount of bad press and mockery. But will Habbox.com remain as so? Or only HxF being changed.

I would keep habbox.com just as it is :) just change the forum and make every member know its still here with all the stuff of old and much more but make it clear its alot more about teens and other games now.

[Yonder]

Only hxf, habbox would remain a fansite but resign as offical if Management did what Jrh suggested.

Like we said about the donating its a good idea but im pretty sure they will bring out a rule against this too in time.

Removing the rare values wouldnt be the best idea another fansite would just take it up or keep theirs going and then Habbox would lose one of its most resourceful sections of the website.

[Decode]

Only hxf, habbox would remain a fansite but resign as offical if Management did what Jrh suggested.

Like we said about the donating its a good idea but im pretty sure they will bring out a rule against this too in time.

Removing the rare values wouldnt be the best idea another fansite would just take it up or keep theirs going and then Habbox would lose one of its most resourceful sections of the website.
If they email Habbo threatening to remove the rare values then the price of rares would increase rapidly which would mean the price of credits would drop. There for less people would buy credits or Habbo would have to decrese the price of credits (the rare values wouldn't ever be removed even if Habbo didn't remove the rule).

[jrh2002]

if habbox forum became a more general site there could be forums to ask advice that can only be replied to by volunteer councillors? there could be a health forum that has a real doctor or 2 who are only allowed to reply.

I am sure there are plenty of people who would do this for free but of course they would need to be checked out :) the current health forums etc manage to get the question askers laughed at by smart comments lol also there are the morons who post stupid stuff which i wont mention in detail.

[jrh2002]

If they email Habbo threatening to remove the rare values then the price of rares would increase rapidly which would mean the price of credits would drop. There for less people would buy credits or Habbo would have to decrese the price of credits (the rare values wouldn't ever be removed even if Habbo didn't remove the rule).

I agree with yonder and people would just use the next site down who has rare values. Trying to hold sulake at gun point would cause more damage than good.

[Shawnstra]

If they email Habbo threatening to remove the rare values then the price of rares would increase rapidly which would mean the price of credits would drop. There for less people would buy credits or Habbo would have to decrese the price of credits (the rare values wouldn't ever be removed even if Habbo didn't remove the rule).

Yeah, the whole Habbo UK Economy hangs on Habbox.


Only hxf, habbox would remain a fansite but resign as offical if Management did what Jrh suggested.

Like we said about the donating its a good idea but im pretty sure they will bring out a rule against this too in time.

Removing the rare values wouldnt be the best idea another fansite would just take it up or keep theirs going and then Habbox would lose one of its most resourceful sections of the website.

Yeah, most people on hxf don't use Habbo anyway. Keep Habbox as an official site, and branch HxF off as a general online gaming/teen life site. Change its name and pictures, etc.

[HotelUser]

This is a great idea and thought I better say so as others have ignored you in this thread for some reason lol

I will explain what can be done and presume its what you are thinking :)

1) Change habboxforum.com to another domain that is aimed at teens and older ;) (stop trying to get rid of us old ones) and general online gaming.

2) when people go to habboxforum.com it goes to a page that says habboxforum.com is no longer a habbo hotel fansite has changed name due to its popularity and is now aimed at teens and alot of online games including habbo. have a link to go to the new site explaining that people will still be registered as before and maybe even a mass email to all members explaining this.
Remember to add the reason for this move would be down to sulakes bullying tactics.

3) remove habbo graphics from the actual skins but i dont think they can do much about them in posts :) if they do ask you to remove them all from the posts say of course we will and just ask them to send links to every post they require removing ;) they will soon realise that will take them forever lol
remove habbo avatars from the site and then its up to members to add their own :) habbo want habbo ones removing they must email the links to each member profile they need changing ;)

4) resign hx.com as official :o the official list was laughed at for years because the biggest and most popular fansite was not on the list :) this will make their list a total joke and waste of time :) we all know the only reason they have it is so they can throw their weight around at teens who do whatever they say.

5) point out the rebranded forum from hx.com explaining although it is a teen forum there is alot of habbo related content including trading etc.

6) alter the graphics forums so there is also options to add other online games alts in their on forums so its not just habbo.

7) add some trading forums alongside habbo trading so its aimed at other games :) you could do this by making the main category online game trading and then a list of subforums opens with runescape, habbo and anything else popular.

8) get the new domain known with alot of other online games to bring in more users who i hope are more mature than the average habbo although it seems most are pretty good on here :)

9) hxf needs to evolve and getting away from mainly habbo would be good :) of course an unofficial hx.com could still point habbos this direction and also get new members from more mature games :)

This would keep most the current members and gain you some more :) it would also make habbos who are getting fed up with habbo realise there are more mature or different game sites out there :) that would take people away from habbo slowly and they will have shot theirselves in their webbed feet with 6 toes on each.

I would also like to see HxF evolve from being a forum based around Habbo. Having said that I think it's too risky to just make the jump into being a non-Habbo related forum. Perhaps Habbox could just create a new forum separate from Habbo and keep HxF open (Using Impex to transfer over all relative posts to this new forum) and use funding from this new forum to pay for Habbox too. If it's a success, then HxF can be shut down completely and this new forum can be used. Venturing out into other markets anyways to get funding for Habbox is a good idea in my opinion.

[scottish]

David, if they had another forum to pay for on top of habbox and HxF then it cost alot more, and as hxf would still be here majority would stay and not transfer to the new forum, so less vip sold ;)

[Supersam]

Id be worried about the forum if it became teen related and not just Habbo.

HabboNation's forum which had a very big userbase changed to a general teen forum and it dropped dramatically.

Im not saying it might happen but there may be alot of people who still want to discuss Habbo and getting stick from other members saying "THIS ISNT A HABBO FORUM SO SHUSH!"

Oh and would this mean the removal of habbo-related skins?

[scottish]

It wouldn't as habbo would still have its sections, and people who posted 2THIS ISNT A HABBO FORUM SO SHUSH" in habbo sections would just get warned/infracted/edited posts.

It would'nt necessary mean removal of habbo-related skins as habbox would still have the disclaimer and so on until habbo kicked up a trantrum and complained to hosts.

[Yonder]

You could have all habbo forums in a sub section then keep the general teens on on index.php solved.

[Supersam]

At the same time if the forum was to become general teen related then would it not be odd for mostly Habbo-related skins?

I would suggest keeping the Classic skin though :)

[Yonder]

They said to remove habbo related skins/images supersam.

[MissAlice]

I think Habbox should get legal advice, because I don't think it's right to be expected to run a site without any financial help. The money that it costs owners to run sites is quite a bit of money and the owners do not make a profit, while it's a very tiny splash in the ocean to the likes of Sulake, who make millions.


That is actually a great idea lol, but I doubt Habbo would allow us to show who donated by "publishing" their name on the forum in different colours.

I am very touched to see so many people complaining and supporting us :)

I think we first need to find out what the reason is behind this sudden change in policy, and wether it is Habbo UK or sulake headquarters behind it. Then we also know who we have to address about it.

Of course it is good to organise protests against it, but don't do anything illegal as they might blame Habbox for it.

I will get some legal advice to find out what exactly our position is in all this. But in any case if we can't work it out with Sulake in a friendly way we might lose our official status which would be a shame, considering how long it took us to get it lol.

Btw perhaps somebody can come up with a good way for us to make some (or a lot :P) of extra money, then it doesn't matter if we sell vip or give it for free.

As I posted quite early on in this thread legal advice first.

If the only way forward is to comply with Sulake, then Habbox needs to promote itself, if it wishes to remain as a habbo fansite, official or unofficial, make use of companies that will gain new clients from advertising for a small fee.

one mobile phone company
one bank/building society
one travel agent
one teenage magazine
maybe one computer company.
and then support one charity with any profits.

Attract companies that want to support Habbox that will in return, gain them potential customers in the future! Habbox could still accept donations from members, and reward members for donating to charity with a privilege, the same way a marathon runner gets a medal when he finishes a race ;) I'm not sure how different that is to Habbos that participate in events and competitions to win NSPCC badges etc etc. ????

The fact that Habbox is the largest Habbo fansite, it should take advantage of that fact. It's been going for quite some time now, and has grown to be the most well known one, Habbox should grasp this opportunity to find money to pay for the servers and other costs. Why should Habbox be prevented from continuing to provide a free service to thousands because of a new rule that's been introduced recently. Sulake do need to explain why, because there is no reasonable explanation, other than a fear of their loss of earnings. How would Sulake feel if they were suddenly told they could no longer sell HC Membership, without a good reason? Shocked I imagine!

[jackass]

This is going to be awkward.

I'm gonna miss VIP... :(

[HotelUser]

David, if they had another forum to pay for on top of habbox and HxF then it cost alot more, and as hxf would still be here majority would stay and not transfer to the new forum, so less vip sold ;)

The majority wouldn't stay if all non-Habbo related forums got moved ;). Then lots of VIP would be bought, and Google adds could be on both forums.

[jrh2002]

all the habbo forums would remain but just add a few others just to prove that it is not a habbo fansite but a gaming/teen forum.
Habbox would still direct people to the forum and point out thee habbo content in it :)

Habbox is currently looking for independant advertising but how many would want to advertise on a habbo fansite? if it was a gaming and teen related site just imagine how many more people would want to advertise here? also as MissAlice suggests about the marketing with one of each company :o how many would do that when really they would be advertising habbo/sulake through habbox the habbo fansite. If it wasnt a habbo fansite and just a huge community with nobody to answer to then i would expect a huge amount of interest.

just emailing all the members (50,000+ including unconfirmed members) and telling them its no longer based around habbo would get a number of the users who left because of habbo being childish in their opinion return for a look and they may even stop.

The issue i would see is that habbox runs all of its departments through hxf but resigning as official should let this continue :o but forum staff would need to be a different colour to hx staff.

[jrh2002]

The majority wouldn't stay if all non-Habbo related forums got moved ;). Then lots of VIP would be bought, and Google adds could be on both forums.

The would not be moved but others games forums would be added even in subforums. look at all the international habbox forums like hxworld etc :o all failed :o not because they were not good but because people dont want to be running from forum to forum so stick with the popular one and a name change and additions of other forums wouldnt hurt to be honest.

[HotelUser]

all the habbo forums would remain but just add a few others just to prove that it is not a habbo fansite but a gaming/teen forum.
Habbox would still direct people to the forum and point out thee habbo content in it :)

Habbox is currently looking for independant advertising but how many would want to advertise on a habbo fansite? if it was a gaming and teen related site just imagine how many more people would want to advertise here? also as MissAlice suggests about the marketing with one of each company :o how many would do that when really they would be advertising habbo/sulake through habbox the habbo fansite. If it wasnt a habbo fansite and just a huge community with nobody to answer to then i would expect a huge amount of interest.

just emailing all the members (50,000+ including unconfirmed members) and telling them its no longer based around habbo would get a number of the users who left because of habbo being childish in their opinion return for a look and they may even stop.

The issue i would see is that habbox runs all of its departments through hxf but resigning as official should let this continue :o but forum staff would need to be a different colour to hx staff.

If it was not related to Habbo I think users would be more inclined to register too, as they wouldn't think the forum was about a random isometric game.

[jrh2002]

If it was not related to Habbo I think users would be more inclined to register too, as they wouldn't think the forum was about a random isometric game.

Well if habbox forum changed identity i would use it :) if it was a whole new forum I wouldnt bother even if relevent posts from hxf were displaid on it. rebranding in the ways suggested is just a last resort if the idiots at sulake dont get their arses in gear and put an end to this madness but its all down to sierk in the end :) if it was me the less i could help promote habbo the better due to the stupid stance they have taken.

Hope it goes to court and then we can take the boys to flatten some noses of the people in suits from sulake ;)

[Yonder]

I so wish it did i'd protest outside or be in coutroom, i hope im on the jury lol.

[Nick.]

I think what we should all do, even now, is just click maybe two ads for everytime we visit HabboxForum. It hardly takes long, and if we all did it, it would help a lot! I've started clicking a couple of ads each time I visit.

[Nereo]

I think what we should all do, even now, is just click maybe two ads for everytime we visit HabboxForum. It hardly takes long, and if we all did it, it would help a lot! I've started clicking a couple of ads each time I visit.

Im confused, what good does that do? :P

[Hitman]

Im confused, what good does that do? :PEvery time an ad is clicked HxF receives money basically, so the more clicks there are the more money HxF will receive.

I just clicked one, it was actually something interesting for a change.

[FlyingJesus]

I don't agree with the idea of making the forum non-Habbo based. Forums without real direction don't work for long - the massive teen forums that are currently around have their userbase from long ago and have built up their names, anything else really has to have a focus point. Here that focus is Habbo, and that's what brings in new users. Although a massive amount of people who post regularly and are well-known do not actually play Habbo any more, there are thousands of members who do and who come on here for the Habbo news and rare reports etc., even if they don't make themselves known. Furthermore it's nice having something in common with everyone (ie: pretty much all of us have been on Habbo at some time), it makes the community work better together.

How many spin-off forums from HxF have actually worked? Habmate was probably the most successful, but even that didn't last, because no matter how many big names you bring across, it's the massive userbase here that keeps it going, and cutting a load of them off won't do anyone any favours.

[AgnesIO]

Management contact clubhabbo, and get them to do the petition!

The fools are listening to habbo :l

[FlyingJesus]

If you read the thread you'd see that they've been in contact with Habbo about this as much as they can and they're still trying to sort things out. A petition will do nothing, sorry to say.

[GommeInc]

What comes to mind is all official fansites turning down their official status :/ It'll mean Habbo will have alot of work cut out for them, they have to remove the official fansites page for a start and will kinda prove that fansites are not happy and that fansites are aware that Habbo do not deserve their services in promoting a pretty lame company. But it depends if fansites really do love their nulled pixel image which proves nothing of worth or value, from Habbo, at least ;)

[jrh2002]

I don't agree with the idea of making the forum non-Habbo based. Forums without real direction don't work for long - the massive teen forums that are currently around have their userbase from long ago and have built up their names, anything else really has to have a focus point. Here that focus is Habbo, and that's what brings in new users. Although a massive amount of people who post regularly and are well-known do not actually play Habbo any more, there are thousands of members who do and who come on here for the Habbo news and rare reports etc., even if they don't make themselves known. Furthermore it's nice having something in common with everyone (ie: pretty much all of us have been on Habbo at some time), it makes the community work better together.

How many spin-off forums from HxF have actually worked? Habmate was probably the most successful, but even that didn't last, because no matter how many big names you bring across, it's the massive userbase here that keeps it going, and cutting a load of them off won't do anyone any favours.

If this had to become a general teen or gaming forum to keep it going then what else can be done? none of the habbo content would be removed but a few more non habbo related bits added just so sulake couldnt claim it was a habbo fansite. I would sooner see Sierk try and change it to keep it going than see it die out due to lack of funding because of some greedy multi-national company.
I dont think any forums have really been born and survived from habbox users :o there are some who get a few visitors a day but when you look more closely its just their staff.

The idea of rebranding HxF is a good one in my opinion but I also agree it is the last resort if the people at sulake/habbo dont change this stupid rule.

Maybe when sierk gets legal advice all this worry might not have been needed but whatever happens if habbo dont change the rule habbox will have to do something drastic.

If this rule stands I would sooner close than put any more hard work in and see the site slowly die :( I would NEVER help or promote sulake any more :o

[Sammeth.]

Management contact clubhabbo, and get them to do the petition!

The fools are listening to habbo :l

Just like pretty much every fansite, ClubHabbo are challenging Habbo in a way they see fit. Habbox won't be signing a petition any time soon I don't think as it isn't the right way to approach it.

[scottish]

What can habbo do anyways, other than remove official and ask for the images to be removed? lol. Nothing much i'd assume.

As they can't exactly get the website closed if you don't have their images on it.

[jrh2002]

What comes to mind is all official fansites turning down their official status :/ It'll mean Habbo will have alot of work cut out for them, they have to remove the official fansites page for a start and will kinda prove that fansites are not happy and that fansites are aware that Habbo do not deserve their services in promoting a pretty lame company. But it depends if fansites really do love their nulled pixel image which proves nothing of worth or value, from Habbo, at least ;)

I have to agree and think this should be the way forward :o maybe some habbox staff member should be contacting ALL official sites from every hotel :) but we all know that every uk site would agree to resign and then one or two of them would have not done so really lol

[scottish]

Even if that was still the case, previously having like 12 official sites then 10 gone then now 2 still a bit jump and would probably get the point across, it would also mean new sites would suck up and get official though if habbo were that desp for official sites :P

[jrh2002]

Even if that was still the case, previously having like 12 official sites then 10 gone then now 2 still a bit jump and would probably get the point across, it would also mean new sites would suck up and get official though if habbo were that desp for official sites :P

I agree :) and then once resigned as official just carry on as before :) if habbo want anything removing then they must provide a link to the exact post or image which to be honest is a full time job lol as soon as that posts removed it could be reposted by a different member.
Lets get the decent habbo news back instead all the pro habbo crap that has to be posted because of official rules.

[GommeInc]

Even if that was still the case, previously having like 12 official sites then 10 gone then now 2 still a bit jump and would probably get the point across, it would also mean new sites would suck up and get official though if habbo were that desp for official sites :P
Pffft, those sites will be dead within a few months, once loads of visitors start visiting and they have to find a way to pay their bills.

[scottish]

I agree :) and then once resigned as official just carry on as before :) if habbo want anything removing then they must provide a link to the exact post or image which to be honest is a full time job lol as soon as that posts removed it could be reposted by a different member.
Lets get the decent habbo news back instead all the pro habbo crap that has to be posted because of official rules.


They can't request posts to be removed can they? Only images that are copyright to them



What can habbo do anyways, other than remove official and ask for the images to be removed? lol. Nothing much i'd assume.

As they can't exactly get the website closed if you don't have their images on it.

[jrh2002]

They can't request posts to be removed can they? Only images that are copyright to them

Not sure if they still do but they used to ask for posts to be removed that contained info taken from their servers etc and anything bad towards sulake/habbo lol I think they believe they have some sort of super power and control everything on the net.
a proper company sending threatening letters in most cases to a teen site owner is more than enough but i think with habbox they have come up againnst people who wont be pushed around by the big bullies :)
The only power they have is removing sites as official as far as i can see :s habbox hosts itself on its own servers as far as im aware so they cant go running to a hosting company for breach of their T&Cs. Maybe the data centre has T&C's but I think the only way habbo could get anything altered is by taking this to court and then if habbox win great but if they lose just move servers to a more lenient country.

[Decode]

What can habbo do anyways, other than remove official and ask for the images to be removed? lol. Nothing much i'd assume.

As they can't exactly get the website closed if you don't have their images on it.
They can get all posts that talk about Habbo removed and they can take the domain because it has Habbo in it.

[jrh2002]

They can get all posts that talk about Habbo removed and they can take the domain because it has Habbo in it.

they cant stop people talking about them as long as its true etc :)
i cant see them being able to take a domain unless they buy it at a premium rate.

[scottish]

Because the domain has habbo in it doesn't mean nothing?

If i registered a company called "Forum" i couldn't get any site with forum in it removed.. Habbo don't have the right to change any domain with the word habbo in it because they own the company?

i.e. If i owned vista.com microsoft couldn't sue me/get it deleted because they later released a operating system called vista?

If habbox was breaking any laws the company could contact the data centre from what im aware and get the server put off, but habbox would have been contacted by the data centre before hand to remove any files which infringe the copyright act.

[jrh2002]

If habbox was breaking any laws the company could contact the data centre from what im aware and get the server put off, but habbox would have been contacted by the data centre before hand to remove any files which infringe the copyright act.

But habbo would have to email habbox giving a time limit for all offending images and posts to be removed as well as a link to each and every one.
Habbox does really well moderating but when things are borderline it is up to habbo to provide all the information for each and every post or image to be removed :) in other words they have no chance unless they create a full time job for somebody.
If habbox had not been contacted then the data centre would probably send habbo a blunt reply at not following the correct procedure.

[scottish]

Yeh, if habbox straightly refused to remove it then the data centre has the right to turn off the server. Habbo can't get posts removed from what i'm aware, that would be like a magazine with a restraunt reviews and one place gets a rubbish one, because they got a rubbish one they can't demand it to be removed from the magazine if you get what i mean.

[jrh2002]

Yeh, if habbox straightly refused to remove it then the data centre has the right to turn off the server. Habbo can't get posts removed from what i'm aware, that would be like a magazine with a restraunt reviews and one place gets a rubbish one, because they got a rubbish one they can't demand it to be removed from the magazine if you get what i mean.

But if that magazine was printing stolen photos or total lies in that review it would be in court before the mag dropped through your letterbox. Stolen images taken from places which should not be accessed or total lies about them that ruins their name (they are doing a good job of that themselves) is a reason to get posts removed.

[timROGERS]

As much as I like to support Sulake on their little witch hunts, this is their stupidest yet. The only way that fansites like Habbox survive is through the sale of VIP. Perhaps Habbo should therefore be footing some of the hosting bill? :)

[scottish]

But if that magazine was printing stolen photos or total lies in that review it would be in court before the mag dropped through your letterbox. Stolen images taken from places which should not be accessed or total lies about them that ruins their name (they are doing a good job of that themselves) is a reason to get posts removed.

Yeh true. Most lies get removed anyways, and pictures on here aint really stolen as it states in disclaimer all images are copyright to habbo ^^

[jrh2002]

Yeh true. Most lies get removed anyways, and pictures on here aint really stolen as it states in disclaimer all images are copyright to habbo ^^

the pics i was on about was the pics of new furni that had not been released on the hotel but taken from the servers by the naughty scripters lol there was even some sulake thing that was going into the fiture of habbo that although found on some business site on the net was demanded to be removed. I still have it on my pc so might have a read all these years on to see just how much has come true.

[united-champ]

The fansite way states that fansites must not "charge users for premium services such as VIP access". That rule has been around for a while although it has never been properly enforced, until now. ClubHabbo have received an email from the UK offices stating that they have until 1st December to discontinue their forum VIP service. So what happens to Habbox? Would management be able to keep up with the server and hosting payments with the income coming soley from ads? It's only a matter of time until management get the same email...
Isnt Forum NOT Official fansite? but a diff weburl.

So, the main site dun charge.

[Decode]

Isnt Forum NOT Official fansite? but a diff weburl.

So, the main site dun charge.
The rules now apply to unofficial fansites as well.

[--ss--]

I still think the mainstream media needs to get contacted, won't be very hard to do so, especially with the assistance of the 4chan members :eusa_whis

[Decode]

I still think the mainstream media needs to get contacted, won't be very hard to do so, especially with the assistance of the 4chan members :eusa_whis
I was gonna fill out that watch dog form, but there was like 30 boxes and I didn't want to give my address :(

[--ss--]

I was gonna fill out that watch dog form, but there was like 30 boxes and I didn't want to give my address :(
Same, I just couldn't be arsed to do it myself and it seems no one else was either :(
Wanna try BBC/ITV news? Or maybe even newsround which is aimed at Children, they recently done a story about Habbo safety so i'm sure they'd be quite interested in this ;)

[Decode]

Same, I just couldn't be arsed to do it myself and it seems no one else was either :(
Wanna try BBC/ITV news? Or maybe even newsround which is aimed at Children, they recently done a story about Habbo safety so i'm sure they'd be quite interested in this ;)
I am doing the newsround one now :P

[jrh2002]

People say that a re branding wouldnt work but imagine hxf without vip :o
The people who buy vip dont do it for the features most of the time they do it because it makes them feel part of the site :) having their name on some long list somewhere wont work at all and will lose alot of the community spirit.

[HotelUser]

People say that a re branding wouldnt work but imagine hxf without vip :o
The people who buy vip dont do it for the features most of the time they do it because it makes them feel part of the site :) having their name on some long list somewhere wont work at all and will lose alot of the community spirit.

Erm..I'm not sure that's entirely true (like, I buy VIP to see who's repped me :P). But to an extent I'm sure it is.

[Kardan]

People say that a re branding wouldnt work but imagine hxf without vip :o
The people who buy vip dont do it for the features most of the time they do it because it makes them feel part of the site :) having their name on some long list somewhere wont work at all and will lose alot of the community spirit.

I think that if Sulake go through with this, rebranding is the only thing that will work. All that would need to be changed is the URL, Name and Habbo Images... The Habbo sections can all remain... I mean; we have a Runescape section but we're not considered a Runescape fansite are we?

[Tintinnabulate]

People say that a re branding wouldnt work but imagine hxf without vip :o
The people who buy vip dont do it for the features most of the time they do it because it makes them feel part of the site :) having their name on some long list somewhere wont work at all and will lose alot of the community spirit.

Secretly give the donors extra features :) They are going to be in a new usergroup anyway if their name is going to be different.

[Iampure]

I hope it stays official :(

[Yonder]

I remember a few years ago they had that watchdog program for children on cbbc. Do they still have it they would be a good source to get in contact with as they speak on your behalf etc. Sounds stupid i know but they are more likely to deal with a teenage targeted website that the real watch dog lol.

[GommeInc]

The rules now apply to unofficial fansites as well.
I think they have always applied to non-official fansites too. Not sure why people overlook that fact :P

[Shawnstra]

I think that if Sulake go through with this, rebranding is the only thing that will work. All that would need to be changed is the URL, Name and Habbo Images... The Habbo sections can all remain... I mean; we have a Runescape section but we're not considered a Runescape fansite are we?

I think rebranding is one of the best ideas now. If we use a loophole, Sulake will just patch it up. The best way is to give them no control over HxF. Anyway, most people do not use Habbo on this site. A Habbo section can be also mantained though. Official status - Habbox is one of the fansites I feel, that is still popular even if it is not official and this has been proven before when it was still popular despite a long period of not being official.

Shawn

[GommeInc]

People say that a re branding wouldnt work but imagine hxf without vip :o
The people who buy vip dont do it for the features most of the time they do it because it makes them feel part of the site :) having their name on some long list somewhere wont work at all and will lose alot of the community spirit.
The thing, if it had to be re-branded, there would only be like one Habbo forum because the amount that there are now would make it a Habbo fansite. The trade forums will have to go, the Habbo graphics forums will have to go and be replaced with one forum for MMRPG Alts (or whatever the blooming things are called :P) which can include Habbo. Habbo News, rumours, trades, rooms and so on will probably have to go in Console Games with multiple sub-forums depending on how much they're used. A catagory could work though, and the excuse "It's talked about alot" would hide any idea for it being a Habbo fansite forum :P

I doubt they'll be able to copyright the word "Habbo" so much that they have control over which sites may use it. If they did, The Times newspaper will be in trouble and reviews on any media will have to be removed. Granted, I think they have the power to forcefully remove words from sites that they choose from.

[scottish]

The thing, if it had to be re-branded, there would only be like one Habbo forum because the amount that there are now would make it a Habbo fansite. The trade forums will have to go, the Habbo graphics forums will have to go and be replaced with one forum for MMRPG Alts (or whatever the blooming things are called :P) which can include Habbo. Habbo News, rumours, trades, rooms and so on will probably have to go in Console Games with multiple sub-forums depending on how much they're used. A catagory could work though, and the excuse "It's talked about alot" would hide any idea for it being a Habbo fansite forum :P

I doubt they'll be able to copyright the word "Habbo" so much that they have control over which sites may use it. If they did, The Times newspaper will be in trouble and reviews on any media will have to be removed. Granted, I think they have the power to forcefully remove words from sites that they choose from.

Not really cause we have runescape trading section, and it isnt a runescape fansite ;)

[GommeInc]

Not really cause we have runescape trading section, and it isnt a runescape fansite ;)
That's not exactly a big section though, is it ;) Habbox Forum has 11 catagories, 3 of which are Habbo Catagories (alterations has Habbo as the main catagories). Runescape doesn't even have a catagory to itself, it has a forum in a Console Games catagory :P

The forum would have to get rid of the Habbo catagories to make it less obvious as a Habbo Fansite, because the other catagories are general forums, rather than serve a specific company, league or character subject. The Habbo forums would either be deleted or removed to a small forum buried in Console Games, possibly above Runescape. That way it lowers the standards of the forum and Habbo would be no more or less important than the Runescape discussions.

[kurtis5561]

How come some of the biggest forums in the world can survive purely on Adsense (And LivingWithStyle before it was sold was earning $4000 a week in revenue alone) and something as small as habbox cannot survive without extracting money from its users. Either poor money management or theres something else

EDIT: LivingWithStyle even paid its users to post and all this from google adsense!

[Yonder]

Because ads arent clicked, majority ignore them and / or use ad blocker.

[--ss--]

I remember a few years ago they had that watchdog program for children on cbbc. Do they still have it they would be a good source to get in contact with as they speak on your behalf etc. Sounds stupid i know but they are more likely to deal with a teenage targeted website that the real watch dog lol.
Shortchange? I used to watch it all the time :o
Best bet is newsround as if the story gets broadcasted there i'm sure the main BBC news will also do a little story about it too.

How come some of the biggest forums in the world can survive purely on Adsense (And LivingWithStyle before it was sold was earning $4000 a week in revenue alone) and something as small as habbox cannot survive without extracting money from its users. Either poor money management or theres something else

EDIT: LivingWithStyle even paid its users to post and all this from google adsense!
Because Habbox aren't upto that level yet. Also most people on here know how to avoid ads/ know they're dodgy where as on other large forums users are clueless.

Without a specific forum topic Habbox is going to die out as we aren't going to be able to get any new users. The vetran users on here may not play Habbo anymore but we all found out about HabboxForum via Habbo.

[kurtis5561]

Because Habbox aren't upto that level yet. Also most people on here know how to avoid ads/ know they're dodgy where as on other large forums users are clueless.

Not true, not everyone is clueless, Alot of these forums know alot more about computers than anyone on here.

http://www.big-boards.com/

Look on there none of the biggest sites use VIP, VIP is a money making scheme.

[GommeInc]

Look on there none of the biggest sites use VIP, VIP is a money making scheme.
Someone give him VIP for picking out the obvious :rolleyes:

There's no harm in selling VIP, you're just nit picking.

[jrh2002]

The thing, if it had to be re-branded, there would only be like one Habbo forum because the amount that there are now would make it a Habbo fansite. The trade forums will have to go, the Habbo graphics forums will have to go and be replaced with one forum for MMRPG Alts (or whatever the blooming things are called :P) which can include Habbo. Habbo News, rumours, trades, rooms and so on will probably have to go in Console Games with multiple sub-forums depending on how much they're used. A catagory could work though, and the excuse "It's talked about alot" would hide any idea for it being a Habbo fansite forum :P

I doubt they'll be able to copyright the word "Habbo" so much that they have control over which sites may use it. If they did, The Times newspaper will be in trouble and reviews on any media will have to be removed. Granted, I think they have the power to forcefully remove words from sites that they choose from.

The habbo categories would have to go yes and make it more a general graphics category and a general trading category. In these general categories are subforums for Habbo alts, runescapeg with the alts etc but obviously the more popular ones would get more exposure. subforum for habbo trading would have everything it currently has but take you one click of the mouse button extra to get there. runescape would also have its subforum for trading but if not so popular will not have as many subforums in its subforum as the habbo one lol 1 click extra to get to each of which isnt to much hassle :) these are all idea and the people who pay the bills will sort the best direction hxf goes :) only time will tell.


How come some of the biggest forums in the world can survive purely on Adsense (And LivingWithStyle before it was sold was earning $4000 a week in revenue alone) and something as small as habbox cannot survive without extracting money from its users. Either poor money management or theres something else

EDIT: LivingWithStyle even paid its users to post and all this from google adsense!

You have to remember most users here come for habbo and other bits and most are not out of their mid teens :o what is the point of them clicking on an advert offering things they have no need for or cant afford to buy?
The price of the server for the bigger forums would be similar to the price habbox pays for its server i would have thought? (correct me ppl) so the more users and the ones more interested in the adds will click and earn those other forums alot more cash
They run one server to run a forum i would presume and habbox pays for 3 servers (habbox forum, habbox live streaming, habbox.com) so the costs here are much greater.
I do know the costs of all this and i can assure you its not cheap and i also know the average they get for adsense and for vip per month which at the minute is not making any profit. in the past when there has been profit they do the xmas charity thing and donate to a great cause which habbo/sulake by removing this feature are in essence could be costing a child their life.

I cant speak on behalf of other sites offering VIP type features but i do imagine their owners have a new phone or designer clothes every few months so can sort of see why sulake want to crack down on it.

Maybe habbo could make a rule that ALL sites that sell VIP features must be registered as a business or as said before a charity? there would never be any tax to pay as their is no profit made and then once a year habbo could recieve a breakdown of the ins and outs just to ease their jealous conciences.

From your post it makes me think you are working for sulake and saving them a fortune in toilet rolls with your brown tongue.

[kurtis5561]

From your post it makes me think you are working for sulake and saving them
a fortune in toilet rolls with your brown tongue.

Standard attack a poster response when you know they are right in some respect

I don't actually work for them

[jrh2002]

Standard attack a poster response when you know they are right in some respect

I don't actually work for them

Well when some fool posts without knowing how much cash comes in and goes out also implying sierk lives in a palcae from hxf funds you deserve all you get.

I didnt attack you i gave a good account of why habbox needs vip and have seen the evidence to back up my claim :) no way would i post figures on here though as its not my place to do so. just a sarcastic comment about you was worth it :) i dont think sulake needs to take on any care in the community people just yet but keep an eye out ;)

[jrh2002]

This is an idea
Habbox has a list of donators in order of the amount actually donated so the more generous ones are at the top. this list keeps all names on it forever
Give all donators a coloured name on the forum just to highlight their kindness but after a length of time this coloured name will be removed
The coloured name they get will last FOREVER :o But using the subscriptions time lengths for a limited period they will be able to request a different coloured name :) but at the end of that they would go back the the once donated colour (not in bold)
Keep currnet prices that are the same as vip but you would also need to add a donate button incase the person wanted to donate less than on the list and they would still get the coloured name to say they have donated.
If somebody donates 50p work out how much time that would give them to change to a different colour before it reverts back to the usual has donated in the past colour and when that time is up they go back to the has donated colour.

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Another idea is that there could be 1 different colour for sale for a month and then the next month another colour and just do this through all the colours of the current VIP.
Once the time has ran out worked out at a set price to amount of time they would just revert back to the having donated colour :)
Make the have donated colour pretty crap so they dont want to keep it and donate a little bit more to get a better colour.
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habbox could link to the donators groups on hxf in the forum leaders if they liked and the coloured names on show are just as a ty
Donators would get NO special benefits as a coloured name benefits you in no way at all :) the normal members or the previous donators would still get the same benefits as the current nice coloured named donators.
Habbo will have trouble with telling who is a VIP or a donator due to alot buying plenty of VIP before its forced to end and habbox having to honour their purchase.
You would have to give every user the same benefits except a coloured name which gives you no special treatment and just a way to show a TY for you
I would consider only letting people who have donated see who has -repped them :o the reason being people who donate to habbox are not going to abuse this system as much as random newcomers.
Maybe let normal members who have used the forum for 2 years also see who repped them? this because they have proved theirself and shows that this feature is not just available for donators.

[jrh2002]

Here is a plan and if ok'ed a few of you people might do similar. :)

Was not going to mention it til i got a reply if it was ok but as theres another thread quite similar i will tell you.

I am going to trade my gold on habbo for as much VIP as possible in 6 month blocks :) I want to donate these 6 month blocks to people on here who I think deserve it :) long term users and normal people (be hard to find those) I cant see this being an issue though.

If i am allowed to allocate my VIP I am also considering buying a huge amount :) £500 or £1000 :o with interest rates crashing and currency so crap I would not lose out a great deal. Once i purchase this VIP before sulakes deadline i would be able to allocate it after their deadline :) of course i would sell this personally through my own paypal to people after habbox can no longer sell vip :o but as i bought it before the deadline habbox will not be breaking any rules :)

If habbo think this is just a cheap trick to get around it im sure i can show them my bank transfer to Habbox and Habbox can let them see the money hitting their paypal.

[kurtis5561]

Well when some fool posts without knowing how much cash comes in and goes out also implying sierk lives in a palcae from hxf funds you deserve all you get.
Your saying the owner of this place doesn't earn any money at all from this place, yeah right ok



I didnt attack you i gave a good account of why habbox needs vip and have seen the evidence to back up my claim :) no way would i post figures on here though as its not my place to do so. just a sarcastic comment about you was worth it :) i dont think sulake needs to take on any care in the community people just yet but keep an eye out ;)
Who are you anyway? Are you the accountant? no! So I expressed my opinion, unless your in for a cut of the VIP?

[Rapidshare]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?p=5294961#post5294961

Anyone with me??


and kurtis, he does not earn any money from this, it non profit ;|

[GommeInc]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?p=5294961#post5294961

Anyone with me??


and kurtis, he does not earn any money from this, it non profit ;|
And alot goes to charity at Christmas too, through the Christmas VIP. I wonder if Habbo realise they're anti-charitable? :P

[jrh2002]

Your saying the owner of this place doesn't earn any money at all from this place, yeah right ok


Who are you anyway? Are you the accountant? no! So I expressed my opinion, unless your in for a cut of the VIP?


The owner does not make a penny :) if there is any extra it sits in the account and then at xmas habbox forward all the income of that month to a charity of the members choice (voted for from a list usuall) the charity send habbox a letter of thanks which gets posted on the site.
Its only this year that habbox has gone to 3 servers so costs have shot up.

I was once forum owner and set up the VIP etc so know my stuff unlike some ;) I was recently looking into something for Habbox so got to see the current figures of the ins and outs and it is not making profit.

Because i have been involved in habbox and also learnt alot from it i want to do my best to see it survive :) not sure why i would want a cut of VIP its not like im short of money :eusa_danc

You did not express your opinion you made a stupid comment more or less saying habbox were telling lies that they need VIP to help survive.

[AgnesIO]

The owner does not make a penny :) if there is any extra it sits in the account and then at xmas habbox forward all the income of that month to a charity of the members choice (voted for from a list usuall) the charity send habbox a letter of thanks which gets posted on the site.
Its only this year that habbox has gone to 3 servers so costs have shot up.

I was once forum owner and set up the VIP etc so know my stuff unlike some ;) I was recently looking into something for Habbox so got to see the current figures of the ins and outs and it is not making profit.

Because i have been involved in habbox and also learnt alot from it i want to do my best to see it survive :) not sure why i would want a cut of VIP its not like im short of money :eusa_danc

You did not express your opinion you made a stupid comment more or less saying habbox were telling lies that they need VIP to help survive.


Totally agree +Rep.

God the guy that said 'what do you know' LOL what a comment to say to the creator of the main forum LOL

[kurtis5561]

The owner does not make a penny :) if there is any extra it sits in the account and then at xmas habbox forward all the income of that month to a charity of the members choice (voted for from a list usuall) the charity send habbox a letter of thanks which gets posted on the site.
Its only this year that habbox has gone to 3 servers so costs have shot up.

I was once forum owner and set up the VIP etc so know my stuff unlike some ;) I was recently looking into something for Habbox so got to see the current figures of the ins and outs and it is not making profit.

Because i have been involved in habbox and also learnt alot from it i want to do my best to see it survive :) not sure why i would want a cut of VIP its not like im short of money :eusa_danc

You did not express your opinion you made a stupid comment more or less saying habbox were telling lies that they need VIP to help survive.
Your post made no sense

EDIT: Why the frig does habbox need 3 servers?

[AgnesIO]

Your post made no sense


It made perfect sense.

HE MADE THIS FORUM.

HE OWNED YOU.

Basically thats it.

[Kardan]

Your post made no sense

EDIT: Why the frig does habbox need 3 servers?

Jrh2002 CREATED the forum and owned it, so he knows what he's talking about.

[jrh2002]

And alot goes to charity at Christmas too, through the Christmas VIP. I wonder if Habbo realise they're anti-charitable? :P

I think i already said habbox need to contact all the previous charities supported and tell them what sulake are trying to do. I think this years charity needs to be childline who SULAKE seem to like mentioning on its site and then tell them that this wont be possible in future due to sulakes stance.

The hundreds of pounds habbox has raised over the years for charity will have saved kids lives all around the world.

Not allowing VIP will in a way be letting kids die because they wish to make more profit.

SULAKE ARE HELPING POOR AND STARVING KIDS TO DIE!!! with this rediculous rule. make an avatar for us all to wear to show how we feel about this.


http://www.habbo.co.uk/help/68


QUOTE: SULAKE

11) CHOICE OF LAW AND JURISDICTION

10.1 These Terms shall be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of England and Wales and the parties hereby irrevocably agree that the English Courts shall have exclusive
jurisdiction to determine any matter or dispute in connection with or arising out of the Website and these Terms. Sulake UK Ltd's failure to exercise or enforce any right or provision of these Terms does not constitute a waiver of such right or provision. If any provision of the Terms is found by a court of competent jurisdiction to be invalid, the parties nevertheless agree that the court should endeavour to give effect to the parties' intentions as reflected in the provision, and the other provisions of the Terms remain in full force and effect. You may not assign, sub-licence or otherwise transfer any of your rights under these User Terms.


Not sure what they can do to Sierk considering he is not a UK resident lol maybe next time he visits the UK they could jail him haha

[jrh2002]

Your post made no sense

EDIT: Why the frig does habbox need 3 servers?

Made no sense to an idiot maybe ;)

Habbox.com
Habboxforum.com
habboxlive.com for shoutcast steaming

if they had 2 servers and chose to run any 2 of the above sites on one server it would cause so much lag and downtime :) we know this because as all the sites got more popular everybody experience the lag with shared servers.

have a look to see how much 1 reliable server costs per month from reputable companies and you will realise we are not talking £10 a month.

[Blue]

Your post made no sense

EDIT: Why the frig does habbox need 3 servers?

Habbox, habbox forum, habbox live.

[kurtis5561]

It made perfect sense.

HE MADE THIS FORUM.

HE OWNED YOU.

Basically thats it.


Jrh2002 CREATED the forum and owned it, so he knows what he's talking about.

Does he own it now

NO

[GommeInc]

Does he own it now

NO


Oh please give up and go away, you seem to not have any care about this whole situation and only seem to be posting to nit pick and be a nuisance. Go away with as little dignity as you have now, before people really start getting rude ;)

Has someone got in contact with these charities? I could if need be :)

[Kardan]

Does he own it now

NO



So ignorant >.<

If you read the posts you will see that he set up the VIP, and therefore, the forum is the same - vip wise - as it was back when he owned it.

He's owned the forum, he knows the current owner etcetc. You haven't, therefore he knows what he's on about.

[jrh2002]

Does he own it now

NO



Cheers for the -rep much appreciated :eusa_whis

Take a look at these and see if you could afford it out your pocket money.
http://www.europahost.net/servers/price-list.htm

I am sure me and the others said i USED to own the forum :) so NO I no longer do own it einstein. But I also said I knew the current financial status but because I am not the forum owner I will agree due to your higher inteligence that what i know will not be taken into account. I am very sorry sir. :(

*Removed due to reminding your mother you actually existed - poor lady :(*

[AgnesIO]

Does he own it now

NO




True.

However he donated like 10000 credits
to habbox
so SHUT UP!

[jrh2002]

Oh please give up and go away, you seem to not have any care about this whole situation and only seem to be posting to nit pick and be a nuisance. Go away with as little dignity as you have now, before people really start getting rude ;)

Has someone got in contact with these charities? I could if need be :)

Maybe you could do :) or ask sierk/nvr if they have?

I does seem we have lots of ideas but nobody is saying who is doing what if anything (apart from sierks legal advice) maybe management could keep us all updated and then that would stop a few of us asking people things that they have already been asked. :)

[jrh2002]

ULTERIOR MOTIVE?

For Kurtis
underlying motive: a second and underlying motive, usually a selfish or dishonorable one




Quote: Kurtis5561
14/07/2008

About the VIP and the Habbo way?

Are you planning on removing it to comply with the Habbo way?

I am not causing trouble or arguements just wondering whats been decided.


http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?p=4908306#post4908306




Seems he has his own hosting company? lol
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=533741




Been hurt by habbox? fired? banned? made cry?
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?p=4895578#post4895578


You are not only turning probably the most positive thread by HxF members ever :o (about a negative subject) You are also doing it elsewhere :( theres always one who slips through the net but I hope they see this and decide to terminate your access ;) shame thats all they could terminate but we cant have it all.

[Decode]

I think the best thing to do would be to completely ignore sulake, the most they can do is remove Habbox from the offical fansites list as Habbox hosts its self.

[Sammeth.]

Look on there none of the biggest sites use VIP, VIP is a money making scheme.

It's as if we need some sort of financial support to provide you with a free service. Sickening.

[HotelUser]

Cheers for the -rep much appreciated :eusa_whis

Not that his 1 reputation point will do anything to you anyway:P.


Does he own it now

NO



Is that relevant?

NO


Your saying the owner of this place doesn't earn any money at all from this place, yeah right ok


Who are you anyway? Are you the accountant? no! So I expressed my opinion, unless your in for a cut of the VIP?

I suggest next time you post you find the facts. It's certainly his place to be talking about this, and he definitely knows what he's talking about. -rep for posting when being totally ignorant of what you're talking about. If you're just here to cause arguments I think I speak for everyone when saying you're not welcome here.

[Dan2nd]

Cheers for the -rep much appreciated :eusa_whis

Take a look at these and see if you could afford it out your pocket money.
http://www.europahost.net/servers/price-list.htm



wow I never actually realised how much money is spent to keep Habbox running and to think all this time I've been using it for free :O

[jrh2002]

wow I never actually realised how much money is spent to keep Habbox running and to think all this time I've been using it for free :O

I am not saying those are habbox's exact costs but they run into 100s of pounds :) remember the domain names and vbulleting costs as well :) even as a bought license u need to pay yearly for support.
it all adds up :)

[HotelUser]

wow I never actually realised how much money is spent to keep Habbox running and to think all this time I've been using it for free :O

I wouldn't say for free, Dan:P. You've contributed lots with donations.

[Yonder]

I'd love kurtis5561 to be able to provide around $1000+ worth of servers out of his/hers deep pocket.

Habbox cost a fortune to run and does so with the help of VIP sales and advertisements, though VIP contributes mostly to this. This is why we are having the big debate.

Oh i hate it when somebody reads the first post and jumps to last page and posts, id wish they'd read a few pages first and then comment :)

[FlyingJesus]

Has someone got in contact with these charities? I could if need be :)


Maybe you could do :) or ask sierk/nvr if they have?

Norbert's away until... oh, today apparently. Sent him a message the other day before he tottled off concerning the charity idea so might have an answer soon haha. But yeah he doesn't look very much online, hopefully he won't have a billion PMs when he does log on or he'll probably miss mine in the flurry :P

[jrh2002]

I would also like to see HxF evolve from being a forum based around Habbo. Having said that I think it's too risky to just make the jump into being a non-Habbo related forum. Perhaps Habbox could just create a new forum separate from Habbo and keep HxF open (Using Impex to transfer over all relative posts to this new forum) and use funding from this new forum to pay for Habbox too. If it's a success, then HxF can be shut down completely and this new forum can be used. Venturing out into other markets anyways to get funding for Habbox is a good idea in my opinion.


Right then :P can you explain more about Impex please :) I did dismiss it to start but now want to see if what i write below is possible.

Questions for the technical people:

1) Can we have another forum that runs with Hxf members? so if I register on the other forum I would also get registered here?

2) Could Posts that are made on the other site also transfer to here as they are made and the ones made here transfer there?

Basically we are using the hxf databases to run another forum :) This way habbox could start building a userbase there which would be mainly non habbos but also the HxF users will look part of it.

3) If the above is possible would it need identical categories and forums? or could on the other forum we hide most the habbo stuff so only with the url of them you could get there.

4) The other forum that is totally non habbo related could offer a subscription service but the hxf forum could have them removed totally. but if you bought the subscription through the other forum it would still be valid on here due to the shared database.

I know it would cost another VB license but im sure sierk has a spare :) it could run on one of the servers and probably the ccurrent HxF one.


Is this possibe?

[HotelUser]

Right then :P can you explain more about Impex please :) I did dismiss it to start but now want to see if what i write below is possible.
Impex is an importing tool. You can import everything from the forum's database into a new database. Meaning you can import forums, threads posts, users, pms, etc..

Questions for the technical people:

1) Can we have another forum that runs with Hxf members? so if I register on the other forum I would also get registered here?

2) Could Posts that are made on the other site also transfer to here as they are made and the ones made here transfer there?
Not using Impex. However it is possible using this, or a similar script: http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=185021


Basically we are using the hxf databases to run another forum :) This way habbox could start building a userbase there which would be mainly non habbos but also the HxF users will look part of it.

3) If the above is possible would it need identical categories and forums? or could on the other forum we hide most the habbo stuff so only with the url of them you could get there.
If you just installed two forums to the same database then all users and posts would be the same. However using the script posted above you can choose only to share the same user table.

4) The other forum that is totally non habbo related could offer a subscription service but the hxf forum could have them removed totally. but if you bought the subscription through the other forum it would still be valid on here due to the shared database.

I know it would cost another VB license but im sure sierk has a spare :) it could run on one of the servers and probably the ccurrent HxF one.

[Jin]

Right then :P can you explain more about Impex please :) I did dismiss it to start but now want to see if what i write below is possible.

Questions for the technical people:

1) Can we have another forum that runs with Hxf members? so if I register on the other forum I would also get registered here?

2) Could Posts that are made on the other site also transfer to here as they are made and the ones made here transfer there?

Basically we are using the hxf databases to run another forum :) This way habbox could start building a userbase there which would be mainly non habbos but also the HxF users will look part of it.

3) If the above is possible would it need identical categories and forums? or could on the other forum we hide most the habbo stuff so only with the url of them you could get there.

4) The other forum that is totally non habbo related could offer a subscription service but the hxf forum could have them removed totally. but if you bought the subscription through the other forum it would still be valid on here due to the shared database.

I know it would cost another VB license but im sure sierk has a spare :) it could run on one of the servers and probably the ccurrent HxF one.


Is this possibe?

Impex is a tool devised by vBulletin for importing a database from other schema's (like phpBB, mybb, etc) into a vB database so you dont have to start from scratch again.

This is possible but it would be sometime before we can implement it due to the mind boggling complexity of running two forums on the same database. By legal requirement we would need two license of which I do believe we have a spare and if not, I can put on up instead.

The easiest way I could see this would be to have a section of code edits, that are relative to URL so,

IF domain = lifebox.com then show non habbo forums else show habbo forums.

I am aware of a certain plugin that allows you to have a common user table, however posts and threads are not shared. So if you wanted to check up on your technical help thread you would have to go to lifebox.com otherwise we would have to make all sets of forums / categories viawable on both licenses which would just defeat the purpose at the end of the day.

[jrh2002]

[jrh-Idea#27]

FREE VIP :o renamed HABBOX SUPPORTER

Every member is entitled to get a coloured name of their choice and benefits. To get this the member would have to post in a thread requesting it and it will be set up manually by a HS Editor (habbox supporter editor) The only thing here is that you only get access for a limited time say 48 hours? once that time is up you revert back to a normal member and then to get free HS again you would need to post in the thread again. If there is alot of people after this then it could take a bit of time to set them all up.

But.............. For a donation to help keep habbox running instead of having to post to get your benefits you make a DONATION. The donation allows you to stay in this group for a longer period of time :)

There would be no benefits here that you cant get for free by requesting them in the thread :)


OK people add some more to this or pick holes in it please :)

If you have any idea to help out habbox please post it :) you might not be sure of it but you could be the genius we need to save the site.

[Jin]

Wouldnt be feasible, however, if lets say by donating, you are given an option of joining a publically joinable group called "Habbox Supporters" from the UserCP. Then this wouldnt be such a bad idea then would it :P.

Also what was wrong with this charity idea?

[Slowpoke]

Also what was wrong with this charity idea?

Nothing, yet. I think nvr has emailed the Habbo Offices asking if it's allowed. :)

[Jin]

Nothing, yet. I think nvr has emailed the Habbo Offices asking if it's allowed. :)


Sod whether they think it should be allowed or not! If the power hungry *******s want to have so much control over our site then I can happily send them the invoices every month!

by the way 15 rep to the first person who finds the threads of the journalist that did the article on habbo and came to HxF to ask the community questions.

[MissAlice]

Sod whether they think it should be allowed or not! If the power hungry *******s want to have so much control over our site then I can happily send them the invoices every month!

by the way 15 rep to the first person who finds the threads of the journalist that did the article on habbo and came to HxF to ask the community questions.

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=184785&highlight=journalist
Tim Moore

[Jin]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=184785&highlight=journalist
Tim Moore

An all to obvious a search term but none the less,

+ Rep.

Thanks Alice.

[Nick.]

I'd love a copy of the invoice LOL, just to see how much it actually is.. 'hint'

[Rapidshare]

Indeed so. I've now interviewed Habbo co-creator Sampo Karjalainen and visited Habbo's London HQ (and talked to the very excellent people who work there - which I say in the newly acquired knowledge that they also visit Habbox regularly... )

All further comments welcome. As I've said, the article's coming out sometime in September.

Thanks again to all who have responded so far
Tim Moore

Prooves they check the forum lols

[Coldplay]

An all to obvious a search term but none the less,

+ Rep.

Thanks Alice.

Write to him and I love you, forever.

[MissAlice]

An all to obvious a search term but none the less,

+ Rep.

Thanks Alice.

It was easy, I knew it was approx 2 years ago :P

[Javascrypt]

Ooof, have a donate button.

[Slowpoke]

Ooof, have a donate button.

I'm very surprised that that hasn't been mentioned already (sorry if it has, but I didn't see it). :P

edit:


Have you been ripped off?

Our investigators Andrew Penman and Nick Sommerlad are here to expose injustice, so if you've been ripped off, they want to know about it. Help them to help you by including your full name, address and a daytime phone number in an email to [email protected]
http://www.mirror.co.uk/about-the-mirror/contact-us/

[kk.]

i know a lot of people have said that they dont buy VIP for the features but im sure you benefit from it therefore you wouldnt just generally donate as you dont get anything out of it.

anyway, good luck finding loopholes and other ways, contacting habbo si the best idea but if you do find a loophole DO NOT ask them if you can do it

[Kardan]

This thread makes me so happy :)

Not because of the crap suituation Sulake is putting us in, but because the members of the forum are all chipping in and truely coming together as a community...

I really hope something good comes out of this guys, I'm willing to help where possible :)

[Jin]

I'm very surprised that that hasn't been mentioned already (sorry if it has, but I didn't see it). :P

edit:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/about-the-mirror/contact-us/

Already a bookmark in my browser ;)

Along with the telegraph, times, sun, news of the world, daily mail, the guardian.

[GoldenMerc]

This is going to be one BIGGGG hit in the newspapers (:
hopefully

[DJ::Beatz]

when was this? is your site official? what hotel is it for? no gay emails recieved from sulake yet?

:)
HabbleFM.com, we are official. Its for the UK Hotel, and Sulake has not messaged us. Lost_Witness told us that you have to word the description of buying VIP carfully.

[Slowpoke]

Already a bookmark in my browser ;)

Along with the telegraph, times, sun, news of the world, daily mail, the guardian.

Oh what lovin' you!


This is going to be one BIGGGG hit in the newspapers (:
hopefully

Amen to that! :)

[GoldenMerc]

HabbleFM.com, we are official. Its for the UK Hotel, and Sulake has not messaged us. Lost_Witness told us that you have to word the description of buying VIP carfully.
I can't actually see how your site got offical, I did a poll over on my site and 70% of the people said they have never heard of it. So yeh.

[jrh2002]

My fansite was told we were aloud to have VIP, as long as it was accepted as a donation towards the site. Thats what the Hotel Manager told us atleast.



Quote:
Originally Posted by jrh2002 http://www.habboxforum.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?p=5288383#post5288383)
when was this? is your site official? what hotel is it for? no gay emails recieved from sulake yet?

:)




HabbleFM.com, we are official. Its for the UK Hotel, and Sulake has not messaged us. Lost_Witness told us that you have to word the description of buying VIP carfully.

This looks like Habbo are picking on the bigger sites so they either close or lose visitors. How come ALL the official sites have not been contacted about this?

+Rep for your reply :) TY





I can't actually see how your site got offical, I did a poll over on my site and 70% of the people said they have never heard of it. So yeh.

How insulting.

[HotelUser]

I can't actually see how your site got offical, I did a poll over on my site and 70% of the people said they have never heard of it. So yeh.

Yeah Ross...that was abit..erm....unnecessary:P.

[dtmm]

Already a bookmark in my browser ;)

Along with the telegraph, times, sun, news of the world, daily mail, the guardian.

Sun would be the best. they lie like ********.

I had contacted the BBC but no reply yet.

[jrh2002]

HabbleFM forum advertises VIP and all it says is



All money raised will help pay for the extremely costly site - with thanks.


Good luck to you and i hope your VIP is allowed to stop :) but one rule for one and one rule for another is out of order. :S

[nvrspk4]

As far as other sites go, Habbox is MUCH bigger than other sites and therefore has higher hosting costs. CH is the only one who would even be close.

I don't really know what the deal is with HFFM but that's a bit of a double standard on Sulake's part, though I don't blame DJ::Beatz at all and I don't think anyone should, if I were him I'd keep mine up until I was told to take it down (as a matter of fact, many months ago we were told not to worry about it until Sulake contacted us.

I am going to ask them to allow us to run the charity promotion, and we will fight the rule but unless we are sure that service will not be interrupted we may be forced to cease VIP selling, for the time being. If we cannot get Sulake to change the rule or simply stop persecuting the fansites we will probably see if we can get in touch with upper level management, else we'll take it to the press probably. Of course plans change so we shall see.

[leah]

The press :O woww.
Id actually lol if im in Law one day and the teachers like "did you hear about the habbo fansite...."

[Wootzeh]

We should just go ahead and choose what charity to donate to this year. It's stupid really that we can't reward our users for giving money to charity.

[Habtopia]

I'll also contact most papers and news companys later on today.

Also why dont we bring up all the stuff habbo have shoved under the rug, does anybody remember the pedophile episode? :S

[Habtopia]

I'll also contact most papers and news companys later on today.

Also why dont we bring up all the stuff habbo have shoved under the rug, does anybody remember the pedophile episode? :S

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[Kardan]

Can buy VIP for 2 years for £24... Better get stocking up then :)

[Slowpoke]

I guess I'm going to have to sell some furniz (hopes management release the limited edition VIPs) :8

[PaulMacC]

This just pisses me off so much.
They expect us to supply their giant company with income and eliminate the companies they think are losing them money. As if, the last time I spent credits on habbo was 2 years ago and judging by what they are doing, that will be the last.

[Slowpoke]

As if, the last time I spent credits on habbo was 2 years ago and judging by what they are doing, that will be the last.

Agreed, and I doubt we're the only ones who feel this way. As for going the the press, I think it'd make a good story. I could also see BBC's Watchdog trying to do something about it if they were contacted.

[PaulMacC]

Yep, I believe so.

[Alkaz]

The press :O woww.
Id actually lol if im in Law one day and the teachers like "did you hear about the habbo fansite...."
So would I. I wouldnt care though, atleast we could still have our beloved VIP xD

[N!ck]

I saw it briefly mentioned earlier but i don't kniw to what extent and i cba reading back through all this lot.

Basically there is a "Donate" option on the forum to contribute towards costs of running the forum. Any amount can be donated, but those that donate £1.50 or more get put into a special user group which has extra features over those who haven't donated. Those who donate £3.00 or more could get put in an even further upgraded usergroup with even mopre features. Rather that this new group being VIP could it not just be called Donator/Supporter or something.

You could find a way of putting it like "A forum arcade uses more server resources, therefore those who have donated towards server costs will get access to it".

[luce]

The one thing i hope we can do if nothing else is do the Christmas VIP becuase i'm not buying any until it comes out, as mine runs out on the 30th December so it would be pointless.

But if it doesn't ill guess i have a year of something. I really don't see the harm in VIP becuase if we objected we just wouldn't pay lol

[Hitman]

Something I think I saw in the thread looked good; you donate (£1.50 or whatever) and you then have the option to join a "group" which has special features. You're not selling premium services, people are donating and can join a special group if they want, as a way of saying thanks... could be a bypass...

[AgnesIO]

Something I think I saw in the thread looked good; you donate (£1.50 or whatever) and you then have the option to join a "group" which has special features. You're not selling premium services, people are donating and can join a special group if they want, as a way of saying thanks... could be a bypass...


Definately.

I'd join up!

Just to spite habbo mainly :D

[Nick.]

I think they should release the Christmas VIP on the last day VIP will be available, along with the Easter colour and some other fancy colours.

[FlyingJesus]

I saw it briefly mentioned earlier but i don't kniw to what extent and i cba reading back through all this lot.

Basically there is a "Donate" option on the forum to contribute towards costs of running the forum. Any amount can be donated, but those that donate £1.50 or more get put into a special user group which has extra features over those who haven't donated. Those who donate £3.00 or more could get put in an even further upgraded usergroup with even mopre features. Rather that this new group being VIP could it not just be called Donator/Supporter or something.

You could find a way of putting it like "A forum arcade uses more server resources, therefore those who have donated towards server costs will get access to it".

This is LITERALLY just renaming VIP lol, they wouldn't let that slide


Something I think I saw in the thread looked good; you donate (£1.50 or whatever) and you then have the option to join a "group" which has special features. You're not selling premium services, people are donating and can join a special group if they want, as a way of saying thanks... could be a bypass...

Even making the group optional, the fact that the option is only open to paying members makes it a premium service. It's like saying I don't get name changes which I could as a VIP, therefore name changes aren't a premium service - but just because I opt out doesn't mean it doesn't exist as such :P

[Jxhn]

What's the actual phrasing of the rule? I'm sure we can find a way around it. How about Very Special Person? lol.

[Decode]

What's the actual phrasing of the rule? I'm sure we can find a way around it. How about Very Special Person? lol.
http://www.habbo.co.uk/community/fansites


- Charge users for premium services such as VIP access.

[newWORLDorder]

Personally, I do not believe they are being unfair, they are being a business. I think this is a bit silly imo. I am sure there are more ways to feed Habbox's funds and provide users with 'VIP experiances'.

[N!ck]

Call it a donator perk rather than premium service then :P.

[nvrspk4]

Call it a donator perk rather than premium service then :P.

Can't offer perks for donations :P

[J0SH]

Can't offer perks for donations :P

Could do maybe as a you help us we thank you situation :P

[Shawnstra]

What's the actual phrasing of the rule? I'm sure we can find a way around it. How about Very Special Person? lol.

They will probably write another rule or rewrite the rule to patch it up anyway. Imo, we have two options. Get them to remove that rule, or change the forum into a non-habbo one.

[AgnesIO]

Personally, I do not believe they are being unfair, they are being a business. I think this is a bit silly imo. I am sure there are more ways to feed Habbox's funds and provide users with 'VIP experiances'.

Clearly not a very bright business.

If they looked into the ammount of users that play on habbo AND buy credits on this forum, then they will gte a low outcome.

[Yonder]

Personally, I do not believe they are being unfair, they are being a business. I think this is a bit silly imo. I am sure there are more ways to feed Habbox's funds and provide users with 'VIP experiances'.

Please share you ideas on how to provide income for Habbox.

[Hiro]

I'm gunna miss VIP, might buy a year of it at the end of the month xD

[jrh2002]

I want to buy 100 years vip before the 1st of december :o can i then pass these out in blocks of 6 months to other users? Be easy to just deduct 6 months at a time from my 100 year subscription.




I'm gunna miss VIP, might buy a year of it at the end of the month xD

just got 2 years for myself just to put some cash in the pot.

[AgnesIO]

I want to buy 100 years vip before the 1st of december :o can i then pass these out in blocks of 6 months to other users? Be easy to just deduct 6 months at a time from my 100 year subscription.


Do you have £1200 to throw at a site? :o

Thats really generous if you make it - But tbh any amount is generous!

Good luck with your mass sale!

[jrh2002]

Do you have £1200 to throw at a site? :o

Thats really generous if you make it - But tbh any amount is generous!

Good luck with your mass sale!

Yes I do and how low intreset rates are its ok tied up in habbox :) Once the purchase has gone through before december the 1st habbo can do nothing to stop it :) if then i gave it out for furni, cash or as a gift thats between me and the person getting it.

[FlyingJesus]

Yeah that would be you selling a service for furni which is also illegal lol, but that'd be down to you then - assuming Hx bring out the ability to have already-bought VIP transferred

[AgnesIO]

Yes I do and how low intreset rates are its ok tied up in habbox :) Once the purchase has gone through before december the 1st habbo can do nothing to stop it :) if then i gave it out for furni, cash or as a gift thats between me and the person getting it.


:)

I personally think habbox should quickly set up a system

Where you can buy lots of months, store them, then sell them to othr users for things like furni later on. Because techniacally it would all be paid for so habbox could do nothing :)

[jrh2002]

Yeah that would be you selling a service for furni which is also illegal lol, but that'd be down to you then - assuming Hx bring out the ability to have already-bought VIP transferred

I would not do it for furni but put that option in incase others decided they wanted to take the same approach :) they might buy 2 years and pass on 18 months worth. :)


:)

I personally think habbox should quickly set up a system

Where you can buy lots of months, store them, then sell them to othr users for things like furni later on. Because techniacally it would all be paid for so habbox could do nothing :)

Thats why i posted this idea :) also asked if its possible but waiting for my reply.


Another Idea LOL sorry

How about a prize draw each week or month :o

20 donators go in a draw get free vip (of course it wont be named vip but i will use that term for now)
20 members even if a donator or staff go in a draw to get free VIP

Make sure that the amount of donators in the draw is always above the amount of donators so they get vip. then match that amount with a draw for normal users.

Instead of different prices maybe but a £2 donate button that will get you 1 month VIP.

Maybe the amount of donators is what dictates the amount of free vip goes into the draw? this way everybody has a chance to get vip and it costs nothing as alot is given away for free.

[AgnesIO]

I would not do it for furni but put that option in incase others decided they wanted to take the same approach :) they might buy 2 years and pass on 18 months worth. :)



Thats why i posted this idea :) also asked if its possible but waiting for my reply.


Another Idea LOL sorry

How about a prize draw each week or month :o

20 donators go in a draw get free vip (of course it wont be named vip but i will use that term for now)
20 members even if a donator or staff go in a draw to get free VIP

Make sure that the amount of donators in the draw is always above the amount of donators so they get vip. then match that amount with a draw for normal users.

Instead of different prices maybe but a £2 donate button that will get you 1 month VIP.

Maybe the amount of donators is what dictates the amount of free vip goes into the draw? this way everybody has a chance to get vip and it costs nothing as alot is given away for free.

We so should make a new department :D 'The ideas of beating Sulakes greedy buts' department :D

Totall agree, again, then perhaps for every 3 months of vip purcahsed one month goes in a draw?

P.S. I would +Rep but allready have once:)

[--ss--]

Pfft such a skem, haven't got enough on paypal and no one's selling me any, my vip ends on January aswell :(

Has anyone actually got reply back from Sulake about this and why they're doing it?

[The Professor]

I just had a brainwave about special VIPs (christmas and the such). Obv we can't allow people to buy it but we could have special VIP giveaways where like the first 50 people who PM or email or w/e get the VIP for free :D It seems a shame to lose the special VIPs completely when we've been giving them out for so many years.

We could also include VIP in a lot more comps and contests and stuff since we can't sell it, just to make use of it.

[Decode]

I think it's the credit crunch that has done it.

Sulake are losing money < Habbox are getting money
Sulake wants money < Habbox have more money

It's a credit < VIP situation.
If Sulake are still making profit then they have no need to stop fansites selling vip, unless there profits are starting to turn and they are trying to make runway for them selves (they probs wouldn't get much by stoping fansites from selling vip.)

[GoldenMerc]

From Redtiz.

*REMOVED*

Edited By nvrspk4 (General Manager): As it breaks the fansite rules :rolleyes:

[AgnesIO]

From Redtiz.


Thanks for that!


However habbo are really annoying me.

Selling t-shirts... I would love to see a fansite that sells t-shirts?

I would like to make it clear to sulake:

90% OF USERS WHO BUY VIP ON HERE, WILL NOT BUY CREDITS WHETHER THEY CAN BUY VIP OR NOT. SULAKE YOU GREEDY ***** GET YOUR HEADS OUT YOUR ARSE AND LEARN YOU DO NOT OWN THE INTERNET.

Bloody fools :l

[Slowpoke]

Redtiz says that "they can thank the donator by giving them a different colour on username" which is, essentially, the same as VIP as it's premium service, something that a normal user who doesn't donate wouldn't get. I think if management rename and word it properly we'll be allowed to keep the service going because from what she has said, the rule doesn't sound strict at all.

[Dan2nd]

*REMOVED*


Isn't the above in bold VIP? lol I'm confused isn't this sort of condradicting what Lost_Witness said earlier on?

[Slowpoke]

Isn't the above in bold VIP? lol I'm confused isn't this sort of condradicting what Lost_Witness said earlier on?

Exactly - I think they were just trying to scare users into complying. :S I don't understand anymore.

[AgnesIO]

Cant we buy VIP in SECRET.

Like users currently with VIP, get PM'd near the end of subscriptions offering them to buy more,

[jrh2002]

Isn't the above in bold VIP? lol I'm confused isn't this sort of condradicting what Lost_Witness said earlier on?

Looks like it to me :s

Maybe habbox should quote that to redtiz and then send her a list of current vip features and ask which are still allowed :o

Instead of a set price over a set time for vip habbox should work out an average price per day :o so if its 10p per day and you donate £1 you get 10 days of coloured name on the forum and the other bits that redtiz says is allowed (be worth keeping her email confirming this though as habbo has a reputation for denying things when they realise they have made mistakes)

You would need a PERMANENT list on hx.com of all donators though :) maybe even a thread on here that you post in to thank them.

+ rep for redtiz quote if i can

and T Shirts? My mates think I look really good down the pub in my habbo t shirt :8 i have to buy a new one each week as the women try to rip them off my back :rolleyes: lets add a new rule because one site has sold 2 t shirts in 3 years lolll

Just buy iron on printer paper and print your own habbo graphics on it then iron on plain shirt :) then go doctors and let him check for mental health issues :eusa_wall

[AgnesIO]

Looks like it to me :s

Maybe habbox should quote that to redtiz and then send her a list of current vip features and ask which are still allowed :o

Instead of a set price over a set time for vip habbox should work out an average price per day :o so if its 10p per day and you donate £1 you get 10 days of coloured name on the forum and the other bits that redtiz says is allowed (be worth keeping her email confirming this though as habbo has a reputation for denying things when they realise they have made mistakes)

You would need a PERMANENT list on hx.com of all donators though :) maybe even a thread on here that you post in to thank them.

+ rep for redtiz quote if i can

and T Shirts? My mates think I look really good down the pub in my habbo t shirt :8 i have to buy a new one each week as the women try to rip them off my back :rolleyes: lets add a new rule because one site has sold 2 t shirts in 3 years lolll

Just buy iron on printer paper and print your own habbo graphics on it then iron on plain shirt :) then go doctors and let him check for mental health issues :eusa_wall

ROFL

i AM ACTUALY LAUGHING IN REAL LOL. God i owe you like 6 rep :P

LMAO

Gotaa love you :D

[Fehm]

Tbh, there not buying a piece of Habbo like a t-shirt are they?
THey arent brandishing the Habbo Name with their forum

Like... 2-3 categories are Habbo on this forum and a good 5 of them arent ^^
Gawd

[Nick.]

ROFL

i AM ACTUALY LAUGHING IN REAL LOL. God i owe you like 6 rep

LMAO

Gotaa love you

Aww, I love knowing people are laughing... http://s.bebo.com/img/smiley_laugh.gif

[Kardan]

From Redtiz.

Basically - we can keep VIP, we just need to scrap the extra features. Such as subforums, bigger avatars/signatures and seeing who can rep you. So basically, all you get is a coloured username... Might aswell move the VIP features onto the Ruby/Sapphire ranks etc then.

Suppose it's all sorted now...

And basically, it's because people are created clones of the Habbo Home system that this has happened, I'm sure the selling T-Shirts was probably just to add something else to the list since I've never even heard about fansites doing clothes :rolleyes:

[jrh2002]

I'm sure the selling T-Shirts was probably just to add something else to the list since I've never even heard about fansites doing clothes :rolleyes:

I went to the bank today in your town and there was somebody wearing a habbo t shirt :o the habbo looks just like your habbo look :o want to own up to anything? :eusa_danc lol

[AgnesIO]

I went to the bank today in your town and there was somebody wearing a habbo t shirt :o the habbo looks just like your habbo look :o want to own up to anything? :eusa_danc lol


OMG.

You can be my fool :)

[Decode]

This Habbo t-shirt is not a matter to joke about, it is actualy seriously effecting Sulakes profit. Just the other day I saw 5 kids wearing them and my maths teacher says he has 7 of them, one for each day of the week.

[AgnesIO]

This Habbo t-shirt is not a matter to joke about, it is actualy seriously effecting Sulakes profit. Just the other day I saw 5 kids wearing them and my maths teacher says he has 7 of them, one for each day of the week.


LMAO

Thanks for the entertainment guys.

Since i can +Rep tom..

Here we go :)

[jrh2002]

OMG.

You can be my fool :)

I dont live far from Kardan but will state he does not own a habbo t shirt lol not that i know of anyway. habbo took them off their own site when they tried to sell them because they were such bad sellers. :eusa_clap

[Rapidshare]

This Habbo t-shirt is not a matter to joke about, it is actualy seriously effecting Sulakes profit. Just the other day I saw 5 kids wearing them and my maths teacher says he has 7 of them, one for each day of the week.


You're kidding?

I saw a football team playing, guess what? They called it the "Habbox Youth" team. I couldnt believe my eyes as i walked past them.

Guess who they were playing against?

"ClubHabbo Youth" team.

I even saw --MAD-- there and sammeth was screaming at hitman to pass the ball.

Ryan (owner of ch) was in some rocky fight with nvrspeak and i saw couple of mods rounding all the bad bobbas :eusa_danc

[kk.]

in that redtiz thing they never said you cant give all the features that VIPs have. No mention of VIP, just people using the graphics. As VIP DOES NOT USE HABBO GRAPHICS IN ANY WAY you are allowed to use VIP. I believe thats what they are getting at.

[jrh2002]

in that redtiz thing they never said you cant give all the features that VIPs have. No mention of VIP, just people using the graphics. As VIP DOES NOT USE HABBO GRAPHICS IN ANY WAY you are allowed to use VIP. I believe thats what they are getting at.


Yes it reads like the special features are the habbo homes :s as a vip they are donating as it states that all money goes to support the site.
Somebody at sulake needs to go through habbox vip and tell us what we can and cant do and preferably Redtiz because whoever you speak to has a different opinion of what you can and cant do.

[jrh2002]

From Redtiz.

Where is this quote from? I presume she emailed it you :o if thats the case habbox needs to do the same asap :) Unless they already have but who knows.

[Alkaz]

Redtiz says that "they can thank the donator by giving them a different colour on username" which is, essentially, the same as VIP as it's premium service, something that a normal user who doesn't donate wouldn't get. I think if management rename and word it properly we'll be allowed to keep the service going because from what she has said, the rule doesn't sound strict at all.
But if its changed to donations and then via that you are offered a coloured name in return for how ever much you donate, (£1 = 1 month). Habbox could give certain colours out in each month and everyone who donates in that month gets the certain colour months VIP. But ye good we can still, in a way have VIP.

[GoldenMerc]

I emailed her to find if it was real. Then she replied with that

[DannyyTBH.]

I wouldnt by a t-shirt that has habbo on it i wouldnt live it down where i live

[nvrspk4]

If that is the case, as long as we remove VIP competitions for Habbo furni (which were becoming hard to do anyway) we SHOULD be allowed to sell VIP.

[GoldenMerc]

If that is the case, as long as we remove VIP competitions for Habbo furni (which were becoming hard to do anyway) we SHOULD be allowed to sell VIP.
Thanks Ross *

[Slowpoke]

If that is the case, as long as we remove VIP competitions for Habbo furni (which were becoming hard to do anyway) we SHOULD be allowed to sell VIP.

If that quote is true, in which case the "cease selling VIP" email Habbo sent was completely pointless. :S

[GommeInc]

From Redtiz.
Hmmm, who wants to phone up a legal internet department and tell them Sulake are suggesting they own internet code which anyone can code?

Also, isn't VIP just a nice name given to a special group with different coloured names? Sulake are terrible with contradictions. Habbox should just keep selling VIP, it seems Sulake have no grounds to stop websites from doing what they like, especially when, as Redtiz said, it's only because people are re-creating HabboHomes and Sulake have no legal control over this, because they cannot suggest they own any part of a "cloned" version when anyone can re-create it. Unless the code is completely identical however. If people want to have a HabboHome on their page, all they need to do is take the Habbo one and change it so it isn't recognisable.

They also seem to be attacking everyone with this. The guily are charged and the innocent are given the same treatment. Sulake are just being lazy, by targeting everyone when Habbox for example are not using HabboHome coding nor are they selling Habbo t-shirts :/

[jrh2002]

Could habbo have realised that they are upsetting alot of people over this and moving the goal posts? why say vip when they say its more for stealing habbo content and a group of people taking on the chinese who are marketing fake designer t-shirts.

I think this rule changes whoever you speak to so the higher up the tree you go the less comeback there will be when other habbo staff disagree with what habbox is doing.

To be honest habbo are out of order throwing a random rule out without a full explanation to each site and going through each of their features to say whats ok and whats not.

[GommeInc]

Could habbo have realised that they are upsetting alot of people over this and moving the goal posts? why say vip when they say its more for stealing habbo content and a group of people taking on the chinese who are marketing fake designer t-shirts.

I think this rule changes whoever you speak to so the higher up the tree you go the less comeback there will be when other habbo staff disagree with what habbox is doing.

To be honest habbo are out of order throwing a random rule out without a full explanation to each site and going through each of their features to say whats ok and whats not.
The rule itself is pointless if it's about websites copying exact ideas and selling items with Habbo items on. That's a copyright issue which doesn't need to be said in fansite rules or the habbo way. It's a terms and conditions sort of rule :/

[AgnesIO]

Why dont we pretend to sell habbo t-shirts, just to test habbos nerves?

Think it would be a laugh :D

[Decode]

Why dont we pretend to sell habbo t-shirts, just to test habbos nerves?

Think it would be a laugh :D
I might make a free site and see how long it takes for sulake to shut it down, or if they even care.

[Yonder]

Why are some fansite owners pathetic, i contacted a few some replied and some support the idea of not allowing VIP but others are either:

Scared they will lose their official status.
Want to be official so they follow this stupid rule.


Granted most of them who replied were little fansites but the odd one or two big ones did reply to.

ps. not naming any names.

[FlyingJesus]

My mates think I look really good down the pub in my habbo t shirt :8

Please don't lie, we know you have no mates lol :eusa_naug would love to wear a Habbo shirt to a pub though haha, could get one that mimics the old Habbo US advert that just reads "see you on the hotel!" and a big picture of hotel view..


And basically, it's because people are created clones of the Habbo Home system that this has happened, I'm sure the selling T-Shirts was probably just to add something else to the list since I've never even heard about fansites doing clothes :rolleyes:

I think this was always the reason yeah, a lot of smaller fansites as well as a couple of larger ones were directly stealing graphic and coding works from Habbo with little or no editing even, and as is often the case it was the minority spoiling things for the majority.


in that redtiz thing they never said you cant give all the features that VIPs have. No mention of VIP, just people using the graphics. As VIP DOES NOT USE HABBO GRAPHICS IN ANY WAY you are allowed to use VIP. I believe thats what they are getting at.


If that is the case, as long as we remove VIP competitions for Habbo furni (which were becoming hard to do anyway) we SHOULD be allowed to sell VIP.

True, but we still need to be 100% on it before bringing it back surely, as the actual line about not being allowed to give a premium service for payment is still in place. What we really need is for a disclaimer or extra paragraph to be written by Habbo/Sulake to go with that rule, explicitly stating what we can and cannot sell or have on site. As far as I'm aware Habbox doesn't directly steal anything from Habbo - a few bits of graphical work are copied and edited in but that's never been an issue and we don't sell Habbo graphics, so we should be in the clear if this can be explained fully by the right people.

[Decode]

I have another idea.

Redtiz says people can't donate and get features added to there account, but you are still allowed to donate and get features removed from your account. Example:

NORMAL USER: 150 x 600 limit on signature, and a 300 x 600 on limit signature.

When you become a vip you get the limit removed-

VIPS: 150 x 600 limit on signature, and a 300 x 600 limit on signature.

This could also be done with avatars.

[Rapidshare]

I have another idea.

Redtiz says people can't donate and get features added to there account, but you are still allowed to donate and get features removed from your account. Example:

NORMAL USER: 150 x 600 limit on signature, and a 300 x 600 on limit signature.

When you become a vip you get the limit removed-

VIPS: 150 x 600 limit on signature, and a 300 x 600 limit on signature.

This could also be done with avatars.

But then the normal user can use 300 x 600..

[N!ck]

But then the normal user can use 300 x 600..

Yes, they cannot use it now either.

It is quite a creative solution lol, but i don't think Habbo would approve.

[Rapidshare]

Yes, they cannot use it now either.

It is quite a creative solution lol, but i don't think Habbo would approve.

lol,

Why do we have to ask Habbo everything?

Becasue imo, if we tell them the ideas, they just gonna change the rules to make you not do it. :rolleyes:

[Jtee]

Well.. EVERYONE comes to habbox for rare values, so there could be a slight cost to access the page.. merely like a "rare values" account.

[Decode]

lol,

Why do we have to ask Habbo everything?

Becasue imo, if we tell them the ideas, they just gonna change the rules to make you not do it. :rolleyes:
Yeah, Habbox should do it until Sulake says they can't.

[Fart]

Get people to donate if they do they get free vip
like on ebay where people sell virtual goods
They do like
Buy a joke and get virtual items free
It bypasses the rule.

[The Professor]

Well.. EVERYONE comes to habbox for rare values, so there could be a slight cost to access the page.. merely like a "rare values" account.

Unfortunately that isn't really in the nature of habbox, our aim is to provide useful, easily accessible resources to people because we enjoy putting it there, if we charge for it it'd become much more like a business than a fansite. Charging for additional features is fine (well, not fine with sulake, but fine with habbox) but charging for core features isn't :)

[HotelUser]

Well.. EVERYONE comes to habbox for rare values, so there could be a slight cost to access the page.. merely like a "rare values" account.

If Habbox wants to lose all of their viewers than your idea would work. Otherwise it's a terrible idea, as people will just go to HHGS or ClubHabbo (as they're getting values)...and their values will be free.

[Mint]

Lets raid the UK offices, take Lostie as hostage, and only give Sulake there beloved Lostie back if they will allow us to sell VIP. Who's up for that idea?

[CHA!NGANG]

There was an idea before. How about, when you donate you automatically get entered into a prize draw to win VIP. But, everyone's a winner! (But Habbo wouldn't know who bought VIP, so they won't know whos won and whos not so as far as they know all 20 people that bought VIP (Per say), won, but they think that theres other people that lost but there isn't). No clue if that makes sence ;)

[Mr.OSH]

It's a work around that seems little bit too obvious to me. :P Also it would just seem a bit silly to hold a draw if everyone knew it was simply to avoid that rule. For it to work everyone would have to know it worked like that and if Habbo really cared about enforcing this rule seriously I highly doubt they would allow that. :(


There was an idea before. How about, when you donate you automatically get entered into a prize draw to win VIP. But, everyone's a winner! (But Habbo wouldn't know who bought VIP, so they won't know whos won and whos not so as far as they know all 20 people that bought VIP (Per say), won, but they think that theres other people that lost but there isn't). No clue if that makes sence ;)

[CHA!NGANG]

Fair point :D Maybe not everyone won then lol. Maybe you had a 50:50 chance of winning or so, and if you didn't win, your name rolled over into the next weeks draw, and it keeps happening until you either win or it can be done according to the amount you donate, e/g £1 gives you 4 weeks worth of draws.

[Yonder]

Lets raid the UK offices, take Lostie as hostage, and only give Sulake there beloved Lostie back if they will allow us to sell VIP. Who's up for that idea?

Im behind that.

[Hazza]

Stupid rule, stupid hotel, stupid updates.

Basically Habbo is ruining itself. I spend about 30 mins to an hour each day on Habbo which is only spent collecting values mainly because I think its been ruined. I love my job and care about Habbox so I carry on going on. Now, when the effects come it'll be even worse. More idiots going around saying "Look @ me im 1337 in my ufo" - I mean seriously? Sulake what are you doing.

As for this rule, all of the fansites are losing a lot of respect for Sulake. I for one will not be spending the £1.50 on Habbo once this rule comes into place and I know a lot of others won't either. Why don't Sulake understand this?

[Mr.OSH]

Fair point :D Maybe not everyone won then lol. Maybe you had a 50:50 chance of winning or so, and if you didn't win, your name rolled over into the next weeks draw, and it keeps happening until you either win or it can be done according to the amount you donate, e/g £1 gives you 4 weeks worth of draws.

Still it's a bit risky and a bit obvious that we're trying to bend the rules as at the end of the day it's just to off VIP. :( I don't think that sort of scheme is allowed under the fansite rules really anyway - personally I don't think it would work but I could be wrong. Thanks for your feedback anyway!

Im behind that.

:P haha.