View Full Version : Who believes in the death penalty?
Malachy
21-01-2009, 07:25 PM
Simple as. Who believes in the death penalty?
No, i believe in PROPER life sentences where it means they're there until they die. Not 25 years where it ends up being 2 years for killing like 10 people.
Immenseman
21-01-2009, 07:30 PM
nah, defo not.
Wootzeh
21-01-2009, 07:30 PM
Sure, saves money and frees up prisons. You kill someone, you die.
Loser
21-01-2009, 07:32 PM
In special cases it should be applied. Not for murder, but in the case of the Austrian incest man (you know who I mean), it should be allowed. There's not enough room to keep these *******s alive. Kill them.
PaintYourTarget
21-01-2009, 07:32 PM
Nah, I think it's make belief like pixies and elves.
Pazza
21-01-2009, 07:45 PM
No, because I think they should be made to suffer how the families suffer of victims of murder etc. With life sentences they suffer, and dont get it to an end straight away.
Wootzeh
21-01-2009, 07:48 PM
No, because I think they should be made to suffer how the families suffer of victims of murder etc. With life sentences they suffer, and dont get it to an end straight away.
The thing is though, they don't suffer in prison.
Lee.Norman
21-01-2009, 07:50 PM
I do believe in the death penalty... But only in extreme circumstances.
For one, they would have to have evidence making it 100% definate that they are guilty... And it would have to be a serious crime.
The reason I believe in it, is because so many people now kill others, get out in 20 years time, and kill again. If they were killed the first time, then it wouldn't be a problem. But it would only be for extreme crimes, and if it can be proved beyond any doubt.
Although I think life sentences would be a help, if they were actually for life. Plus... I think lie detectors and such should be used in some case, as they give a 97% correct reading. There would have to be other evidence, but this would help prevent guilty parties get off, due to circumstantial evidence, and lack of.
Fifteen
21-01-2009, 07:50 PM
yes and no, depends on what the person has done wrong
Loser
21-01-2009, 07:53 PM
The thing is though, they don't suffer in prison.
Why do you want them to suffer anyway?
Mitch4?
21-01-2009, 07:53 PM
I think they should drop all the physcos off on some island somewhere and forced to be like an animal, and if they can't survive, oh well.
Loser
21-01-2009, 07:53 PM
I think they should drop all the physcos off on some island somewhere and forced to be like an animal, and if they can't survive, oh well.
Where could that be?
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--ss--
21-01-2009, 07:58 PM
I believe that the death penatly is far too ironic when you kill someone for killing others.
But then again I sort of agree with it, in certain cases when the offender is a complete scumbag and proven guility whats the point keeping them.
Loser
21-01-2009, 08:02 PM
I believe that the death penatly is far too ironic when you kill someone for killing others.
But then again I sort of agree with it, in certain cases when the offender is a complete scumbag and proven guility whats the point keeping them.
Punishing a crime is different to blind murder.
Andys
21-01-2009, 08:04 PM
I do if it's for murder or worse.
Grainger@CUFC
21-01-2009, 08:08 PM
I do, if what the person did was bad enough to warrant it.
Hitman
21-01-2009, 08:12 PM
For certain things, yes, others no. For example, murder. If it's not brutal then prison, if it's very brutal and gruesome then death. If the killer feels no remorse and doesn't really have a conscience and doesn't care, then death.
buttons
21-01-2009, 08:13 PM
I do if it's for murder or worse.
what's worse than murder?
yeah i believe they should just be put to death, no matter the age. I've been to visit someone in prison and he had a pool table, tv + got 3 meals a day. Alot more than some other people so where's the suffering in that?? If they know the consequence is gonna be death wouldn't they be more likely not to commit crimes?!
Malachy
21-01-2009, 08:14 PM
Suprising results on the poll so far, interesting to see what people think. Didn't think more people would say yes.
Andys
21-01-2009, 08:29 PM
what's worse than murder?
yeah i believe they should just be put to death, no matter the age. I've been to visit someone in prison and he had a pool table, tv + got 3 meals a day. Alot more than some other people so where's the suffering in that?? If they know the consequence is gonna be death wouldn't they be more likely not to commit crimes?!
torture....
terrorist attack....
etc
Yeah in some cases, like if you kill a bunch of people.
Kill and be killed.
RedStratocas
21-01-2009, 11:03 PM
no. not because i believe its immoral, but because the system doesnt make sense.
1. you can kill one person and get the death penalty, but another person could kill a whole family and get life in prison. it all depends on how they're tried, but its completely inconsistant and stupid
2. a surprising amount of innocent people are put to death accidentally - and thats only that we know of. there's probably just as many cases that we never found out where an executed person was innocent (who investigates a case after the person is put to death, anyway?)
i dont care if a million guilty people are put to death, i think its completely unacceptable if even one innocent person is put to death. it doesnt make up for it.
Kardan
21-01-2009, 11:08 PM
In extreme cases, yes.
ToxicPaddy
21-01-2009, 11:08 PM
I'm totally against the death penalty. I do however believe that if someone is given a life sentence, it should mean a life sentence. People should serve the sentence they're given. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime :)
Only if the crime is pretty bad, and that there's enough evidence that the they are the killer.
RedStratocas
21-01-2009, 11:36 PM
btw, before anyone even tries this argument, the death penalty isnt a repellent of crime. people dont think they are going to get caught in the first place, so they arent scared to do a crime because they might get put to death.
Alkaz
21-01-2009, 11:38 PM
It would be alot better with it and like said in the firstreply, LIFE sentances too, not shortened 25 year sentances.
Cos i dont believe in god really i dont believe that they would get any punishment in the after life
they get put to death painlessly and then there dead? its not really a punishment for alot of people
for alot of people who commit crimes like mass murder they prob wont giv 2 shizzes if they die.
for things like terrorism, well they believe that there commiting the terrorist attack for god and will be sent to the best heaven thing for doing what they did so they dnt care if there put to death
i think they should have other punishments like being locked in a box and put on a food and water drip so they stay alive but they cant ever eat food again and can only leave the box to go to the toilet
orr if there rapists or child abusers they should have there willys cut off and then they cant do it again and cant even get off over pictures or anything
I don't purely because of miscarages of justice.
Neversoft
21-01-2009, 11:51 PM
Sure, saves money and frees up prisons. You kill someone, you die.
Coudn't agree more.
Cos i dont believe in god really i dont believe that they would get any punishment in the after life
they get put to death painlessly and then there dead? its not really a punishment for alot of people
for alot of people who commit crimes like mass murder they prob wont giv 2 shizzes if they die.
for things like terrorism, well they believe that there commiting the terrorist attack for god and will be sent to the best heaven thing for doing what they did so they dnt care if there put to death
i think they should have other punishments like being locked in a box and put on a food and water drip so they stay alive but they cant ever eat food again and can only leave the box to go to the toilet
orr if there rapists or child abusers they should have there willys cut off and then they cant do it again and cant even get off over pictures or anything
I agree that there should be more punishments, or if they do get sent to death, make it more painful. **** humane deaths.
RedStratocas
22-01-2009, 01:08 AM
Sure, saves money and frees up prisons. You kill someone, you die.
id agree if it were that easy.
LuckyPopcorn
22-01-2009, 09:13 AM
It varies on what the person has done really what they've done.
Serial Killer Deffinatly. But for stuff like armed theft and rape maybe not some much on death because it's not so sincere for death
Sammeth.
22-01-2009, 01:43 PM
I would rather them suffer for a long long time rather than just having their life ended. If that can't be done, then yeah sure, kill 'em if there is 100% irrefutable evidence (or they admit it).
Inseriousity.
22-01-2009, 01:58 PM
No.
Firstly, killing someone makes you just as bad as the criminal. What gives humans the right to say 'it's the law so I can kill you'? It makes you sound as bad as the person you're killing.
While some may argue that it's going to bring closure to the victims, the death penalty will not bring complete closure. It may help a little but at the end of the day, there is also the family of the criminal. You're just piling grief onto them (and they may just be innocent law-abiders).
Innocent people could get killed along the way. While it is idealistic to say 'there must be 100% evidence', it's not always the case. No system is foolproof. All it takes is one mistake and that's one life wasted. Plus people confess to things all the time. For attention? Because they believed they did it? To protect the one who did do it? That doesn't mean that they did do it.
Capital punishment won't act as a deterrant. If someone really wants to kill someone, do they really care about the consequences? Some people, yes. But those that kill for their own gain... no. In some ways, they may see the death penalty as the easy way out!
While I'm against the death penalty, I do believe that the UK justice system is a disgrace. Light sentences, luxuries in prison etc etc. I think the prisons need to be a lot worse than they are. I read recently about a radio station being set up in one prison because "the credit crunch means the inmates have to spend more time in their cells." Erm yeah, they committed a crime. They should stay in their cells anyway! Life means life. When you die in a disgusting jail (atm, they're seen as a palace compared to some places), they wasted their life on Earth and now they can spend eternity in Hell.
N-Dubz
22-01-2009, 09:42 PM
ye i agree in the death penality, why not? afterall we are way to easy and laid back here in the UK. we give them luxuries like its a ******* holiday camp or something, and what is this telling people? that the punishment of killing someone isnt that bad, that somebody life is only worth 12 years of yours at the most.
a life has no value anymore and im positive if the death penalty came back in and it was all "life for a life" a lot of things would change, there would a lot less killings because teenagers only kill and stab because there getting off lightly. why should someone be able to kill an innocent child and get thrown into a prision for a short while with luxuries and privelages? it isnt fair, take away their life to!
i dont see it as the easy way out, sitting in a prison then having a life when you get out is the easy way out. they get to have what the person they killed can never have - a future. isnt that harsh that someone can take away someone forever and still gain from it? /
yeah kill everyone from vandalism - murder
RedStratocas
22-01-2009, 10:50 PM
ye i agree in the death penality, why not?
read the rest of the thread. that will answer your question.
i wish people would actually read and reply to the legitimate arguments against the death penalty that have been brought up :/.
N-Dubz
23-01-2009, 05:23 PM
read the rest of the thread. that will answer your question.
i wish people would actually read and reply to the legitimate arguments against the death penalty that have been brought up :/.
i am aloud to believe in what i do, im not going to sit here reading everything someones said against it. its never going to happen so it isn't that much of a problem?
Geraint
23-01-2009, 05:46 PM
Yes, I believe if you kill someone purposely, you should be killed yourself. That is after you've suffered 2 months of torture, however.
Ajthedragon
23-01-2009, 05:49 PM
Yes. However a life sentence is worst isn't it? :S
Throne Sofa
23-01-2009, 05:53 PM
What do you acheive by the death penalty? Two people dead instead of one? ALL human beings deserve the most basic human rights regardless.
Minstrels
23-01-2009, 06:35 PM
If you feel the need to kick the **** out of someone give years younger than you because they "look" like someone they are after you deserve death. Especially if it's a group of five males who see them, walk over to them and kick the **** out of them landing them in hospital then into a coffin.
Simple as, you need torturing then finally killed by the victims close friends and family.
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