Manga

[Neversoft]

No one really talks about manga on here, despite it being cheaper, easier to get hold of, and often more superior to anime. I will admit that anime gets my vote if I had to choose between the two, and I'm guessing it would also get everyone elses vote, but there definitely deserves to be a manga discussion on this forum! Without manga way over half of the good anime series wouldn't even exist!

So, let's start!

Do you read manga?
Do you prefer it to anime?
What are your favourites?

My top five...

1. Claymore
2. Death Note
3. Guyver
4. Bakuman
5. Peace Maker

Although I predict that Eden: It's an Endless World and Ping Pong will kick two others out of my top five once I've finished them.

[PaulMacC]

I only read the Naruto and Soul Eater manga.

[Southe,]

4. Bakuman

Good aint it. Alot of people done know about it =/

I like both, it depends on the series for me, I prefer death note manga, DB & OP i like both the same. but most the time i go with the anime.

1. One Piece
2. Dragonball & Z
3. Naruto
4. Bakuman
5. Death Note

Juts listed the ones im reading atm or own. Once i finish buying all of Z books im starting on FMA & Bleach. And NHK if i can ever bloody find vol 1.

[Jord]

I dont watch manga :(

so I really cant awnser all of your questions lol :P

[Nemo]

No one really talks about manga on here, despite it being cheaper, easier to get hold of, and often more superior to anime. I will admit that anime gets my vote if I had to choose between the two, and I'm guessing it would also get everyone elses vote, but there definitely deserves to be a manga discussion on this forum! Without manga way over half of the good anime series wouldn't even exist!

So, let's start!

Do you read manga?
Do you prefer it to anime?
What are your favourites?

My top five...

1. Claymore
2. Death Note
3. Guyver
4. Bakuman
5. Peace Maker

Although I predict that Eden: It's an Endless World and Ping Pong will kick two others out of my top five once I've finished them.
I dont read it no, since i dont really like reading it on the pc since it just doesnt feel right, and im too poor to buy anything although id LOVE to own the FMA manga :<

I dont really prefer it to anime even though i havent really read much manga.

Dont have a top 5

I dont watch manga :(

so I really cant awnser all of your questions lol :Pu read it son.

[Jord]

I dont read it no, since i dont really like reading it on the pc since it just doesnt feel right, and im too poor to buy anything although id LOVE to own the FMA manga :<

I dont really prefer it to anime even though i havent really read much manga.

Dont have a top 5
u read it son.


is it like episodes but comic book type

[Southe,]

All animes do it diffrently. One piece for example1 and a half chapters usually makes an episode. www.onemanga.com (http://www.onemanga.com) go pick a series and look for yourself

[Nemo]

is it like episodes but comic book type
Pretty much.

[Niall!]

I only read Mangas that have no anime, they are also always Ecchi.

[Neversoft]

Good aint it. Alot of people done know about it =/

Good? It's bloody amazing! I think a fair few people do seem to know about it though. The UK was the first place for it to be released officially excluding Japan. :eusa_danc Takeshi Obata and Tsugumi Ohba are an unstoppable force!

I think the manga version of Death Note is on par with the anime. I just can't accept the fact that Mikami would suddenly stop believing in Light and start saying that he wasn't KAMI! It makes more sense for him to kill himself. I LOVE the extra bit at the very end of the manga with Matsuda and Ide though. Just knowing that Matsuda and the others thought that maybe the world actually was a better place when Kira around was so satisfying. Matsuda's theory about Near was also extremely interesting. It makes so much sense but at the same time I don't like to think it's true because I like to think that Light was actually once in control, and Near didn't actually have it all planned out and wasn't ten steps ahead of everyone else. :P

I think I prefer the anime version of Welcome to the NHK over the manga version. The manga has some really cool parts that make you think "Damn, that would have been good in the anime. I wish they put that in there." but overall the anime is still the best. :P Manga is a must read though!

[PaulMacC]

Speaking of Soul Eater in my post above, Chris you should seriously consider continue watching it, I just watched episode 48 the latest episode there and it is getting so epic. It's supposed to have 51 episodes and thats it cause the end differs from the manga but the recent episode wow, just wow!
Also www.animeseason.com (http://www.animeseason.com) the new site I use to watch things.
It updates once a day and has every single ongoing anime I can think of, check the full list for animes that arent ongoing, it has like 500.

[Neversoft]

I watched episode 38, 39 and 40 last week but it's seriously boring now. Episode 23 and 24 are the best episodes I've seen so far, and I'm pretty sure it'll stay that way. After that everything just went down hill. Also, the new characters are lame. I don't want to see some spider *****, some guy with chainsaw legs and a priest. Bring back Stein, Medusa and Asura. I hate how the ultimate bad guy is released and everyones ******** their panties but as soon as he is released he runs away and hides in some cave. What the hell? That right there - that's ********. I will finish it just because theres no point in dropping it now, but I don't think I'll enjoy it anymore. -_-

[LoveToStack]

I was just skimming through amazon and I noticed that Volume 1 of NHK is like, £40? Why are they trying to sell it for £40 when you can get it for £5-6 anywhere else? Even the other 7 volumes are normally priced. :S

[Neversoft]

I was just skimming through amazon and I noticed that Volume 1 of NHK is like, £40? Why are they trying to sell it for £40 when you can get it for £5-6 anywhere else? Even the other 7 volumes are normally priced. :S

Amazon aren't selling it for £40, the other sellers are. One seller even has it up for £132.54, lol! You simply can't get it for £5/£6 anywhere else though, it really is that rare. I'll sell you mine for £39.99, go on you know it makes sense.

[PaulMacC]

Chris episode 48 is so so worth it.
Shinigami CHOP.

[Southe,]

its annoying wish someone would just stock it -.- even looked on ebay and nothing

[LoveToStack]

You can get it in forbidden planet for about £6.

[Neversoft]

If you say so Paul. :P

Read volume 3 of Eden: It's an Endless World today and oh my gah! Violence!

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The girl was on a land mine, so the sniper shot her foot off so it would explode.

Also caught up with Bakuman and Claymore. I haven't actually watched any anime in a while.

[Creddos]

hmm, dont really read manga, not into that stuff but i have played this online multiplayer naruto game, think it was called naruto vs bleach, u should try it man it is siiick!

[Southe,]

You can get it in forbidden planet for about £6.

Ive looked at my FP and wasnt there.


hmm, dont really read manga, not into that stuff but i have played this online multiplayer naruto game, think it was called naruto vs bleach, u should try it man it is siiick!

If its anything like the Naruto arena game i'll pass prefer my jump ultimate stars ^.^

[LoveToStack]

Ive looked at my FP and wasnt there.

They sell it in the online store too however. Just buy it from there, it's £6.40 including packaging;

http://www.forbiddenplanet.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_music_info&products_id=31760

[Southe,]

Lol finally. ive ordered it along with sonic comic thing ^.^ swear to god if i get an email saying they have none in stock =/

[LoveToStack]

You need an adult credit card btw, Visa Electron is not accepted there.

[Southe,]

I used by debit card and it worked fine. dont like using my credit lol. only use it for my phone contract. well i guess ill just buy 2-8 NHK if it comes then

[LoveToStack]

After helping you get it I now find myself in your previous predicament. >:l
They didn't accept my debit card but I'll try my closest Forbidden Planet on Thursday when I have some free time. I bet you when I ask for NHK Volume one they'll say they don't have it and try to pan the other 7 volumes off on me.

[Southe,]

Ah the NHK curse XD its been passed on lol oo reminds me need to buy nhk dvds

[Neversoft]

Lol, I'm actually laughing here. My local Waterstones had not one, but two copies of the first volume when I bought it many months ago. :8 I pity you! I read volume 6 of Welcome to the NHK today and my god it's really getting messed up now. That volume shows you how much of a loser and how messed up every character is but in a dark humour sort of way. It's genius.

Also read BLAME! volume 4 and Bleach volume 11. Sick day = manga day.

[Southe,]

lol i read manga at night if i cant sleep. need to order more but the post is being crap atm and takes like 3 weeks >.< use to take days..

[PaulMacC]

I read all my manga online because Im cool like that.

[Neversoft]

lol i read manga at night if i cant sleep. need to order more but the post is being crap atm and takes like 3 weeks >.< use to take days..

Where you living? Post doesn't take three weeks!

[Southe,]

Edinburgh lol. I know. i ordered like.. 6 books and a game. and none of them turned up after about a week and a half. i thought the chances of being being conned by 7 diffrent sellers is unliley lol but they all started coming half way during the 2nd week.

Still havent had my game or OP 20. Actually. think ill go sort out refunds now. I ordered from amazon and it took 2 days >.>

[Neversoft]

My post always arrives fast and on time. :eusa_danc

Ordered the huge Vizbig 3 in 1 Tekkonkinkreet manga, along with Blue Spring and the first volume of Nodame Cantabile yesterday. I couldn't help myself. :eusa_doh: Still waiting for 20th Century Boys and Peace Maker Kurogane to drop in price, and still waiting to find out whats happening with the Gurren Lagann manga. Has it been released or not!?

Read Eden volume 4 today and it's seriously on it's way to becomming my new favourite manga.

[LoveToStack]

Do you think it's worth buying the Claymore volumes? I have some money so I was thinking of buying a few but is there anything better that I should spend it on. :P

[RareFish]

I only read the Naruto and Soul Eater manga.

Soul-Eater xox

Do you read manga? Yes
Do you prefer it to anime? They go side and side
What are your favourites?
1. Bleach
2. Naruto
3. Death Note
4. Soul-Eater

[Neversoft]

Do you think it's worth buying the Claymore volumes? I have some money so I was thinking of buying a few but is there anything better that I should spend it on. :P

Is it worth buying Claymore? Yes, yes, yes! Is there anything better that you should spend your money on? No, no, no! Claymore is seriously the best manga I have ever read. The only thing I'd recommend besides Claymore would be Eden: It's an Endless World. While Claymore starts good and then gets really awesome later on, Eden starts awesome and later on gets even more awesome. Definitely get Claymore though, then we can be Claymore buddies. I guarantee you won't be able to put it down after the fifth volume! That's when the proper story kicks in, it's just so interesting and so awesome from there. The story is just fantastic, and the world and characters the author has created are amazing.

[Southe,]

^ So best to buy the volumes in bulks xD, i looked at it and it looked good

[LoveToStack]

I looked into Eden just there and I can really be bothered with something post apocolyptic atm and I haven't read anything proper fantasy for a while so I think I'll go for Claymore. :)

EDIT; I just remembered that I still need to get 25+26 of bleach and 26 is in stock in the UK now so I'll buy them too but that means I can only buy the first 2 volumes of Claymore atm. Better than nothing I suppose.

[Neversoft]

^ So best to buy the volumes in bulks xD, i looked at it and it looked good

What looked good?


I looked into Eden just there and I can really be bothered with something post apocolyptic atm and I haven't read anything proper fantasy for a while so I think I'll go for Claymore. :)

EDIT; I just remembered that I still need to get 25+26 of bleach and 26 is in stock in the UK now so I'll buy them too but that means I can only buy the first 2 volumes of Claymore atm. Better than nothing I suppose.

You just can't handle Eden.

[PaulMacC]

Chris seeing as you are god with manga tell me this. Is the D.gray-man anime different than the manga or if not where does it seperate from the anime

[Neversoft]

I've never watched the D.Gray-Man anime and have only read the first volume of the manga so I wouldn't really know. I'm pretty sure the manga is still on-going but the anime has ended, however. I'd find out for you but my internet is half dead at the moment because I'm downloading so much stuff. I'm sure Wikipedia will know.

[PaulMacC]

Wikipedia it then boy,I've got school in 5 minutes lol :(

[Southe,]

What looked good?

well you said "I guarantee you won't be able to put it down after the fifth volume!" so if thats true i'll want to buy it in bulks so i can keep on reading it lol.

Also FP decided to email me today saying wont take my card. >.> that took a long time. anyway just need to use my other one :eusa_clap and thne NHK v1 will be mine.

[LoveToStack]

Chris seeing as you are god with manga tell me this. Is the D.gray-man anime different than the manga or if not where does it seperate from the anime

If the manga is ongoing and the anime isn't then it will be the same up to a point and then the ending will branch off. That's how it normally goes.

[Neversoft]

Wikipedia it then boy,I've got school in 5 minutes lol :(

Do it yourself! Wikipedia's got nothing though, I just checked. Google it.


well you said "I guarantee you won't be able to put it down after the fifth volume!" so if thats true i'll want to buy it in bulks so i can keep on reading it lol.

Also FP decided to email me today saying wont take my card. >.> that took a long time. anyway just need to use my other one :eusa_clap and thne NHK v1 will be mine.

Yes, buy all volumes at the same time! I bought all 11 volumes (which was all that was out at the time) in one go, lol. You won't regret it! How can it not be good with stuff as epic as this

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If the manga is ongoing and the anime isn't then it will be the same up to a point and then the ending will branch off. That's how it normally goes.

Don't be fooled! It could have caught up to the manga before ending and may include a few fillers, or the plot may have been changed so it could end prematurely. The anime version of Full Metal Alchemist is finished, but the manga is still on-going, the anime splits from the manga very early on though, around the 5th volume. So it's not normally how it goes. :P

[Neversoft]

So I finished Welcome to the NHK and Trigun this weekend. The first volume of Trigun was pretty average, but the second volume was amazing. The second volume is where the anime splits from the manga, so it was nice to read some original Trigun material. Everything that wasn't included in the anime was so good, I wish they'd just remake the anime like they're doing with FMA so it could include everything. Knives' awakening was epic as ****! Now on to Trigun Maximum - I actually can't wait!I've been reading Welcome to the NHK for ages despite it being only eight volumes long, so I felt quite accomplished when I finished it. :P The ending was more satisfying than the ending in the anime, and while the anime done some things better, there were a lot of scenes in the manga that I wish were included in the anime. The anime splits from the manga to focus more on the relationship between Satou and Misaki, and while the manga also develops that, it does a lot more at the same time. The manga has a lot more to offer, and I think I'd say it's actually better than the anime, if not on par. Well it has to be damn good to be placed 4th on my favourites list! It was such an excellent read, and I now want to check out the novel! My long awaited volumes of Eden should have arrived by the time I get home, so I'll be reading them next. I have no doubt they'll be nothing less than fantastic.

[Neversoft]

Haven't got around to reading Eden yet. Instead I got caught up in 20th Century Boys. I now see why people consider this to be one of the best manga's ever made and I've only read the first 10 chapters!

[Wouter]

Naruto & Bleach. Trying to find Guyver manga.

[Neversoft]

A group called Guyver Advocacy scan and translate Guyver. You won't find them to read online, but you can download them here (http://japan-legend.com/wiki/index.php?title=Guyver:_scanlations).

[PaulMacC]

I cant get into manga, it's so boring and difficult for me to read :/

[Blinger1]

Never been into manga/anime etc. My sister was reading a book of it yesterday though. She thinks its really weird.. :P

[Neversoft]

I cant get into manga, it's so boring and difficult for me to read :/

That's what I thought at first, but in a years time when you get bored of all the cliched anime, you'll start to love manga.

[PaulMacC]

I cant find where Dgrayman anime branches from manga. The anime ending was good but the manga is ongoing and I really cba reading the manga from the start.
Someone find me it for <3

[Axel]

I dont watch manga :(


I don't think anyone watches manga.

[LoveToStack]

Also FP decided to email me today saying wont take my card. >.> that took a long time. anyway just need to use my other one :eusa_clap and thne NHK v1 will be mine.

I told you! Same thing happened to me, they blatently just don't have NHK volume one.

I cant get into manga, it's so boring and difficult for me to read :/

I prefer it to anime in most cases. I like that you can just pick up and start where you left off because I don't like stopping and starting with anime.

[Neversoft]

I prefer it to anime in most cases. I like that you can just pick up and start where you left off because I don't like stopping and starting with anime.

I'm starting to prefer it to anime now as well. Before if someone asked me the question "anime or manga?" I'd say anime straight away but now I see both have their merits. You get things out of manga you just can't get from watching anime. You're able to follow the story at your own pace, and your imagination works a treat. You can give the characters their own voices, and give the panels movement through your imagination, among other things. You have the power to read what you want to read and see what you want to see. Everyones experience from reading a manga is difference, but with anime and programmes in general, you're told everything and don't get that freedom. A good anime may be amazing, but there really is nothing better than a good book. While manga's are often better though, I have to agree that some work better as an anime. Gintama for example. Gag's and humour just seem to work better when you're watching it, not when you're reading it. :P

I read Hotel today. Aparrently it's the best oneshot every made, I disagree, it's the second best. One hell of a good read though. :8

You guys should just forget about buying volume one and read it online, then buy the other volumes. That's what I was going to do until I managed to find it.

[PaulMacC]

Been reading the D.grayman manga, got through 10 chapters of it, going to take my time because I dont want to rush.

[Neversoft]

Whatever happened to Soul Eater?

It's totally worth reading Claymore if you've seen the anime. The events after the battle of the north are amazing.

[PaulMacC]

I read it for like 10 chapters and it was boring, rly cba the ending of the anime pissed me off when I rewatched it.

[Neversoft]

If the ending of the anime pissed you off then isn't that all the more reason to read the manga? I'll have you know Claymore is anything but boring! Must... vent... anger... Anymore remarks like that and I'll send the boys 'round.

Up to chapter 55 of 20th Century Boys now. Holy. ****. I'm totally hooked. I haven't watched any anime in a while now, this is just too damn good to stop reading. I'm glad this series is so long, it won't be over fast even if I read it non-stop.

[Wouter]

No books 1-7 Chris? :(

[Neversoft]

Volumes 1 to 7 were translated and released in the UK and US so the group didn't translate those. All of the stuff that happens in them is what happens in the anime anyway. The anime ends at around volume 10 of the manga I think.

[Neversoft]

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OH. MY. GOD.

Up to chapter 90 of 20th Century Boys now and I'm seriously considering putting it above Claymore. This manga is a damn masterpiece! The first movie is released on DVD over here on May the 4th so I'll be buying that straight away! The 20th Century Boys trilogy is actually one of the most expensive productions Japan has ever produced. I recommend the manga to ALL! When they make an anime of this it'll kick your ass 'til **** comes out of your eyeballs.

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[PaulMacC]

What a terrible name for a manga, century boys.

[Neversoft]

It's called 20th Century Boys and it's name comes from the 70s rock song of the same name by T.Rex. The title fits the manga perfectly considering that the villain is plotting to destroy the world on New Years Eve, 2000 AKA the last day of the 20th Century.

Also, just found out today that not only is the first movie released on DVD on the 4th of May, but both the first and second film in the trilogy are going to be premiered at the Sci-Fi London Film Festival on the same day. Tickets costs a bomb (£8 to see the first movie, £12 to see the second) but I'm going to go regardless. :eusa_danc Sci-Fi London on the 4th of May, and the MCM Expo on the 23rd and 24th. Oh, and my birthday on the 20th. Hell yeah! This is why May is the best month.

[PaulMacC]

No way, I have an exam on the 20th. Although my birthday is the day after yours

[Neversoft]

When I retook my English Lit. exam it was on my birthday. :eusa_wall

[Neversoft]

Up to chapter 193 of 20th Century Boys now and what I've been waiting for for over 100 chapters has finally happened. :D Got like 56 chapters left until I finish 20th Century Boys, then I have around 22 chapters of 21st Century Boys to read. I'll finish it this weekend. Can't wait! Best. Manga. Ever. It hasn't even been two weeks yet and I've read 193 chapters!? Good god.


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[PaulMacC]

That just looks freaky Chris :(

[Neversoft]

Don't mess with Friend.

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[Neversoft]

Finished both 20th Century Boys and 21st Century Boys. Best manga ever created. Can never and will never be topped by anything!

Recommended to everyone!

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[Neversoft]

Just finished reading Solanin. It was ******* amazing. The last few chapters were absolutely perfect. Damn... everything about it was perfect! I'm speechless. It's only 28 chapters long. Viz released it over here in one big 400+ page book. If you get a chance to read it, don't pass up the opportunity. It follows a group of college graduates who quite frankly don't know what to do with their lives, and feel out of place in the world. I'm sure pretty much everyone will be able to relate to this manga in one way or another. It deals with realistic topics and the characters are so human. They are believable as real people. Their actions, appearance, words... all of it is so humanly realistic that it doesn't at all seem like a work of fiction. If someone told me it was a true story I wouldn't be surprised.


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[Southe,]

Finaly got my NHK 1 :D happy tho its a bit flimsy compared to my Viz books

[buttons]

hi

Do you read manga? yes

Do you prefer it to anime? well I usually read the manga first if it's out then the anime and I find I tend to be disappointed with the anime compared to the manga, if I watched the anime first I'll like it ... until I read the manga and feel it's inferior, mostly because the anime sometimes have to be limited and miss out a lot so yeah

What are your favourites? Ouran High, yeh I'm a girl it's allowed even though it's been on going for so long and takes ages to come out even in the Japanese versions ;_; Skip Beat!, Fruits Basket & Vampire Knight are my favourties although they're not my favourite anime excluding Skip Beat.

Don't think you'd have read any of them though xD

[Niall!]

hi

Do you read manga? yes

Do you prefer it to anime? well I usually read the manga first if it's out then the anime and I find I tend to be disappointed with the anime compared to the manga, if I watched the anime first I'll like it ... until I read the manga and feel it's inferior, mostly because the anime sometimes have to be limited and miss out a lot so yeah

What are your favourites? Ouran High, yeh I'm a girl it's allowed even though it's been on going for so long and takes ages to come out even in the Japanese versions ;_; Skip Beat!, Fruits Basket & Vampire Knight are my favourties although they're not my favourite anime excluding Skip Beat.

Don't think you'd have read any of them though xD

Ouran High has a gay couple in it now, I'll think I'll start it now.

[buttons]

They don't, it's just a thing they put on for the sake of the host club :P The main character is a bit of a gender bender though so you might like it ;)

[Niall!]

Oh I thought it would develop into a proper storyline, **** that then.

[LuketheDuke]

I only really know of noob manga cos I aint read a lot; dont mind a bit of Death Note or the original Pokemon ones:eusa_whis

Prefer contemporary American comic stuff like Sin City and Watchmen. Also if anyone gets a chance to read Batman - Arkham Asylum and see the artwork its jaw dropping and you can sorta see Manga influence.

[Niall!]

I only really know of noob manga cos I aint read a lot; dont mind a bit of Death Note or the original Pokemon ones:eusa_whis

Prefer contemporary American comic stuff like Sin City and Watchmen. Also if anyone gets a chance to read Batman - Arkham Asylum and see the artwork its jaw dropping and you can sorta see Manga influence.

Don't, Chirs will go bat**** insane unless it comes from the land of the rising sun.

[LuketheDuke]

Cheers for the heads up; better find some place to lie low!

[Neversoft]

Don't, Chirs will go bat**** insane unless it comes from the land of the rising sun.

Huh? I'm a huge fan of the Spider-man comics and loved Watchmen. I've also read other stuff like Wanted, Kick-ass and Spawn. Why are you constantly under the impression that I hate everything that isn't from Japan? I've never bad mouthed American comics and graphic novels and I never will because a lot of them are really good.


Finaly got my NHK 1 :D happy tho its a bit flimsy compared to my Viz books

I realised the other day that excluding NHK, Peace Maker and Mahoromatic Tokyopop have licensed nothing but crap. Their titles ranges from really bad to... shoujo. What a selection they have... Viz have by far the best selection of manga. I'd say Del Rey and Dark Horse both come in second, then comes Yen Press and Tokyopop. CMX, although having published very few manga, get huge bonus points for Gon though. :D

The thing I hate about Viz though is that they're constantly changing their logo's on the spine of the mangas they publish. I have ones with a little swirly thing, ones that say sig, ones that just have a v, ones that are editors choice and of course the shounen jump ones. Why so many? What really pisses me off is that they change it in the middle of a series. I have the first three volumes of 20th Century Boys, all thats out so far. The first two volumes have the little swirly thing on the spine, but the third one has the 'sig' logo which I assume means it's a 'Viz Signature Edition' whatever the hell that is BECAUSE IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE SWIRLY ONES! Not to mention the swirly ones also say signature edition on the back... so does the swirly thing mean its a signature edition or does the sig logo mean its a signature edition or are they both signature editions and if they are why do they have different logos theres nothing different about them dammit im going to complain! Oh and the first five volumes of Vagabond I have all have the swirly thing but the sxith volume has a little crown which says 'editors choice' underneath instead. YOU'VE JUST RUINED THE CONSISTENCY OF MY COLLECTION WITH THAT EDITORS CHOICE! Damn you Viz!

[Southe,]

well this is my 1st tokyo pop book. is it suppose to be really flimsy? feels like i could rip it apart lol. and viz are ok but i dont like them for a few reasons.

1. One Piece. Best selling manga ever. Yet they are still only releasing 2-3 books a year. ( tho Viz did announce they will be showing the latest OP chater in the US Jump )
2. The speeding up naruto to like 3 books ever couple month. just so they could could catch up. unfair on other BETTER series
3. Editing the manga
4. Calling Zoro, Zolo. And changing names in other series aswell. They kept the proper names in dragonball like kuririn.

But i have to deal with all that because i want the books lol. Do you know if NHK is edited in any way? i know it has a warning on the cover

[Niall!]

well this is my 1st tokyo pop book. is it suppose to be really flimsy? feels like i could rip it apart lol. and viz are ok but i dont like them for a few reasons.

1. One Piece. Best selling manga ever. Yet they are still only releasing 2-3 books a year. ( tho Viz did announce they will be showing the latest OP chater in the US Jump )
2. The speeding up naruto to like 3 books ever couple month. just so they could could catch up. unfair on other BETTER series
3. Editing the manga
4. Calling Zoro, Zolo. And changing names in other series aswell. They kept the proper names in dragonball like kuririn.

But i have to deal with all that because i want the books lol. Do you know if NHK is edited in any way? i know it has a warning on the cover

.... One Piece is just as **** as Naruto. Sorry to break it to you.

[Neversoft]

well this is my 1st tokyo pop book. is it suppose to be really flimsy? feels like i could rip it apart lol. and viz are ok but i dont like them for a few reasons.

1. One Piece. Best selling manga ever. Yet they are still only releasing 2-3 books a year. ( tho Viz did announce they will be showing the latest OP chater in the US Jump )
2. The speeding up naruto to like 3 books ever couple month. just so they could could catch up. unfair on other BETTER series
3. Editing the manga
4. Calling Zoro, Zolo. And changing names in other series aswell. They kept the proper names in dragonball like kuririn.

But i have to deal with all that because i want the books lol. Do you know if NHK is edited in any way? i know it has a warning on the cover

They're not that flimsy. :P You got a pirate copy init. That's how rare it is. Real copies aren't in circulation anymore.

1. If you haven't already heard the news, Viz are going to release 30 volumes of One Piece in half a year. Look here (http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=97043). If they do that for 20th Century Boys and Bleach I will forever praise them.
2. Read number 1, they're doing the same for One Piece. I guess they just done Naruto first because it's more popular in America.
3. In what way? I know they change the names and stuff but surely not the art?
4. Yeah Viz really piss me off when they do that. In Bleach they call a Cero a 'Doom Blast'. It makes me cry. They don't deserve any praise for Dragonball though because they called Piccolo's special beam cannon something so stupid I can't even remember. Spiraling light of death or some **** like that. Also in 20th Century Boys they call the antagonist 'The Friend' instead of just 'Friend'. Why is 'the' needed!? His name is just Friend!

The whole Zoro/Zolo thing is stupid though because don't the wanted posters IN THE ANIME say Zoro? Theres no arguing with that. Theres a whole debate on MyAnimeList over Horo/Holo from Spice and Wolf as well lol. The official website calls her Holo, but the official novel calls her Horo. Everyone knows her as Horo, just keep it at that for gods sake.

NHK isn't edited as far as I'm aware. Tokyopop actually did a fantastic job translating it and they even stated themselves how fun it was to read so I don't think they'd change it in any way. They even went as far as translating Sato and Yamazaki's video game proposals at the back which are a great laugh. Even I can tell how much effort those would have taken to translate - a lot! :P

[Southe,]

.... One Piece is just as **** as Naruto. Sorry to break it to you.

Thats where your wrong ;) the fact that its sold 177 Million now and is the best selling manga ever means its not "as **** as Naruto" But your alowed your own opinion.


They're not that flimsy. :P You got a pirate copy init. That's how rare it is. Real copies aren't in circulation anymore.
I got it from amazon so ill ask for money back lol.


1. If you haven't already heard the news, Viz are going to release 30 volumes of One Piece in half a year. Look here (http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=97043). If they do that for 20th Century Boys and Bleach I will forever praise them.
2. Read number 1, they're doing the same for One Piece. I guess they just done Naruto first because it's more popular in America.
3. In what way? I know they change the names and stuff but surely not the art?
4. Yeah Viz really piss me off when they do that. In Bleach they call a Cero a 'Doom Blast'. It makes me cry. They don't deserve any praise for Dragonball though because they called Piccolo's special beam cannon something so stupid I can't even remember. Spiraling light of death or some **** like that. Also in 20th Century Boys they call the antagonist 'The Friend' instead of just 'Friend'. Why is 'the' needed!? His name is just Friend!

1. Yea i heard, so happy ^^
2. above
3. They did, OP mihawks sword was changed i think.. Naruto nejis mark was changed, FMA had someone on a cross was edited to a big stone. and i dunno what exactly the edits in DB are but on a site i go they say it is so meh.
4. I like 90% translations. i just like names and attacks and mayb key words to be left alone


The whole Zoro/Zolo thing is stupid though because don't the wanted posters IN THE ANIME say Zoro? Theres no arguing with that. Theres a whole debate on MyAnimeList over Horo/Holo from Spice and Wolf as well lol. The official website calls her Holo, but the official novel calls her Horo. Everyone knows her as Horo, just keep it at that for gods sake.
yup. In the show its Zoro, Games its Zoro, Manga its Zoro, Merchandise Zoro, you can clearly hear the R. it was just so they wouldnt get sued by the people who done Zorro or what ever.


NHK isn't edited as far as I'm aware. Tokyopop actually did a fantastic job translating it and they even stated themselves how fun it was to read so I don't think they'd change it in any way. They even went as far as translating Sato and Yamazaki's video game proposals at the back which are a great laugh. Even I can tell how much effort those would have taken to translate - a lot! :P
well im gonna read it later. all the other NHK books are easy to get so.. if 1st one dosent look the same ill just contact amazon. i have no bootlegs so far :(

[Neversoft]

1. Yea i heard, so happy ^^
2. above
3. They did, OP mihawks sword was changed i think.. Naruto nejis mark was changed, FMA had someone on a cross was edited to a big stone. and i dunno what exactly the edits in DB are but on a site i go they say it is so meh.
4. I like 90% translations. i just like names and attacks and mayb key words to be left alone

Why would they change that scene from FMA when Viz publish things like Neon Genesis Evangelion? The symbolism in that is insane. The rating for NGE is 16+, isn't that the same as FMA? :S

Mangaka and Japanese licensors should do what Studio Ghibli did. Hayao Miyazaki made a deal with Disney to help promote and distribute his movies over sea's but Miyazaki stated they were not allowed to edit anything in his movies at all. They aren't allowed to touch the content, they have to distribute it how Studio Ghibli want it. That's how it should be for manga. No editing names, art, content, anything! Release it how it's meant to be seen!


well im gonna read it later. all the other NHK books are easy to get so.. if 1st one dosent look the same ill just contact amazon. i have no bootlegs so far :(

I was only joking when I said it was a bootleg, but mine aren't flimsy at all. :P

[RandomManJay]

I don't really mind between Manga and Anime, just whatever is available :P. I've only really read Bleach, but I've seen a few animes in my time.

1. Bleach (love it so much I made my own Zanpuktou)
2. Dragon Ball Z (awesome series)
3. Aeon Flux (too short in my opinion)
4. Ghost in the Shell (only seen Stand Alone Complex 1st Gig, loved it)
5. Death Note (a bit random at some points, but love the way Light kills Naomi Mizora :P)

[Neversoft]

Just finished Genshiken. I cried. Never have I come across a series until now that creates such a bond between you and the characters. What an absolute masterpiece. Fantastic characters, superb storytelling and highly detailed art with a nice, realistic portrayal of life. It doesn't get any better than this.

[PaulMacC]

Then again, Naruto is one of the most watched animes ever and right now it's terrible.

[Southe,]

No idea where i read this but i remember Naruto was high ont he tv ratings, then went off during fillers, then shippuuden was high for a few weeks and now its low.

Bleach is never on the top 10. or rarely and OP/DBK is normal 3/4 sure they get beat by a talk show or something. ill try find the place i found this tho.

Anyway im going to london so is there any places where i could look at some manga :P might buy some when im done for the long trip back up lol

[Neversoft]

Anyway im going to london so is there any places where i could look at some manga :P might buy some when im done for the long trip back up lol

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=523481

Go to Leicester Square. There are three great manga shops all within five minutes walk of each other there, and some good DVD shops as well as comic shops.

My top picks would be Forbidden Planet and Gosh!. Orbital Manga have a good selection but they never have the first couple of volumes in a series so it's pointless going there for manga unless you want a latest issue. Although when I went there last they were missing a lot of latest issues as well... I think you can drop 'em a message on myspace and tell them what you want and they'll get it in though. Prices range, but pretty expensive.

Gosh! has a great collection and they're pretty much always stocked up, prices range from expensive to cheap. They also stock a lot of unknown gems and obsecure titles, so you might make a good find or two there. The first time I went they had a box of manga and each volume in the box was only £2 each. That wasn't there last time I went though.

Forbidden Planet has the biggest selection I've ever seen, but the manga is pretty expensive. However, when I went there two months ago they had two pretty big sections of extremely cheap manga. It's brand new, but cheap. They sneek like half of the volumes in a series in there so you're tempted to buy the cheap ones, then you also have to buy the expensive ones to get the rest. It still works out very cheap though. That's where I got all nine volumes of Genshiken. Cost me just over £40 I think which is even cheaper than Amazon.

The manga is downstairs in both Forbidden Planet and Gosh!.

[Axel]

I only read the Bleach manga as I honestly can't be ****** with all these fillers anymore. I'll probably watch the anime still though as it'd be cool to see stuff like the Ulquiorra fight animated.

[Southe,]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=523481

Go to Leicester Square. There are three great manga shops all within five minutes walk of each other there, and some good DVD shops as well as comic shops.

My top picks would be Forbidden Planet and Gosh!. Orbital Manga have a good selection but they never have the first couple of volumes in a series so it's pointless going there for manga unless you want a latest issue. Although when I went there last they were missing a lot of latest issues as well... I think you can drop 'em a message on myspace and tell them what you want and they'll get it in though. Prices range, but pretty expensive.

Gosh! has a great collection and they're pretty much always stocked up, prices range from expensive to cheap. They also stock a lot of unknown gems and obsecure titles, so you might make a good find or two there. The first time I went they had a box of manga and each volume in the box was only £2 each. That wasn't there last time I went though.

Forbidden Planet has the biggest selection I've ever seen, but the manga is pretty expensive. However, when I went there two months ago they had two pretty big sections of extremely cheap manga. It's brand new, but cheap. They sneek like half of the volumes in a series in there so you're tempted to buy the cheap ones, then you also have to buy the expensive ones to get the rest. It still works out very cheap though. That's where I got all nine volumes of Genshiken. Cost me just over £40 I think which is even cheaper than Amazon.

The manga is downstairs in both Forbidden Planet and Gosh!.

Cool ill have a look if i have time. Its a 5 hr train ride and im leaving quite early so getting there about 12-1. but my gig dosent start till 7:00. dunno if im getting a train or a bus back up tho. dunno if the bus would have lights. i load my ipod with shows. i have FLCL downloaded and SZS, ill get some more.

[Neversoft]

Download DIEBUSTER!

http://www.farawaynowhere.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/diebuster-2.png

[Southe,]

How many eps? want short series thatw ay can just watch them in a oner.

[Neversoft]

How many eps? want short series thatw ay can just watch them in a oner.

Six episodes, same as FLCL.

[Southe,]

shall download tommorow then

[Neversoft]

shall download tommorow then

Did ya? Did ya? Did ya?

[Southe,]

lol nope but i will after i finish Black lagoon i did do FLCL tho was good

[Neversoft]

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I never did finish Black Lagoon. All I heard about it was good things, but really from what I saw (the first seven episodes) it's just senseless action. I didn't really like Revy either. By the way, if anything Diebuster could be considered a sequel to FLCL in an alternate setting. :D Both FLCL and Diebuster were also directed by the same guy. Hideaki Anno's apprentice! When you've been enlightened by the mind behind Evangelion you know you've got some awesome **** to unleash. What I don't get is why you'd watch FLCL and Diebuster but not Gurren Lagann though. :P

[Southe,]

i said i am gonna watch Gurren Lagann waiting for dvds tho

[Neversoft]

You're waiting for the DVDs to be released to watch Gurren Lagann but you'd download FLCL and Diebuster to watch them even though the DVDs for both series have already been released?

[Southe,]

i d/l flcl cos it as short i needed something for the train ride

[uje]

i said i am gonna watch Gurren Lagann waiting for dvds tho

Gurren Lagann is awesome! :) I have not seen Diebuster but I will be checking that out today ;)

My top five mangas are

1) Death note
2) Keroro Gunsou
3) D.Gray-Man
4) Gurren Lagann
5) FMA

;)

[Neversoft]

You read the Gurren Lagann manga? I was pleasantly surprised by how good it was and how well things were planned out. Bandai take ages to release it though. By the way... Gurren Lagann and Diebuster are one and the same. Required viewing!

[uje]

Yeah, well surprisingly I didn't know a manga of it existed, but I got a new Iphone app called "Go manga" and searched up "Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann" and surprisingly something came up, so I just read it on my Iphone when I am travelling ;) I think its an excellent manga, but I do prefer the anime, mainly because with all the action that goes on I really liked the way it was animated :D

[Neversoft]

Oh theres no contest the anime is of course much better. I wonder how the manga will handle the finale. That'll be one hell of a spectacle. The manga comes with an interview with the anime series coordinator and scriptwriter and it notes how he muttered to himself "How the hell are we going to visualize this?" when he looked at the script for the final battle in spiral space. :P It also notes that the guy who is adapting the anime into the manga felt stumped when he read most of the scripts. Sounds like the staff actually had no idea what they were creating, lmao.

[uje]

Oh theres no contest the anime is of course much better. I wonder how the manga will handle the finale. That'll be one hell of a spectacle. The manga comes with an interview with the anime series coordinator and scriptwriter and it notes how he muttered to himself "How the hell are we going to visualize this?" when he looked at the script for the final battle in spiral space. :P It also notes that the guy who is adapting the anime into the manga felt stumped when he read most of the scripts. Sounds like the staff actually had no idea what they were creating, lmao.

Ah, this explains why it takes forever for it to be released! :P We can expect the ending to be out... Never! :P On my Iphone the status says "Ongoing - Irregular" :P I have to say though, the manga has done pretty well with visualizing it :) Speaking of Gurren Lagann I was thinking of cosplaying Simon for the expo in October :D

[Neversoft]

I think now the anime series is done and over with the author of the manga probably has a good idea of what to do now. His art captures the style of Gurren Lagann perfectly, which I assumed would be a hard thing to do. The backgrounds and detail are also impressive, so well done to him.

I'll be going in October but only for one day this time. I won't be going to buy either, I'll be going as a photographer. :8 If you cosplay as Simon you can guarantee I'll get a photo of it. I like tracking down Gurren Lagann cosplayers. :P

[Neversoft]

I read the first volume of Slam Dunk the other day and wooooooooow! It's been a while since a first volume has had such an impact on me. I think I'd even say that was the best first volume of any manga I've ever read. I should have expected no less from the author of Vagabond.

In other news I finally finished Rose Hip Zero. It's a five volume manga by the same person that created GTO. It's also a prequel to one of his other mangas, Rose Hip Rose. I feel the series was concluded too fast, but other than that it was great. The art is by far the best aspect.

[Neversoft]

I recently started Angel Densetsu. It's really good so far, and incredibly funny. It's about this guy who has the face of a demon but inside hes a really innocent, kind-hearted person. Because of his looks he gets acquainted with the wrong people and is misunderstood by everyone. It's by the same guy that does Claymore, but it first started publication back in 1992 so the art isn't as good as his current series. Still, some really decent stuff! I recommend it.

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[Black_Apalachi]

How does Death Note manga compare to the anime? Baring in mind the voices were a huge part of it for me... How long is it also?

[Southe,]

i enjoyed the manga more so than the anime. 12 Volumes long and has a diffrent ending to the anime. Plus the drawings are great.

[Black_Apalachi]

I think I'll look out for it if I ever get the chance, and if it's not too expensive.

[Neversoft]

I love the manga, but enjoyed the anime a lot more. The anime is more mature and has a much darker tone, plus the voice acting, music and editing just can not be beaten. The montage of Light madly writing names into his Death Note in the first episode just can't be replicated in manga, as draw images can't portray the sense of speed and intensity as much as animation can. Though with that said the manga still does a damn good job. I think I prefer the anime in pretty much every aspect however, but I do wish they animated the last few scenes in the manga as well instead of leaving them out. Although I prefer the anime, I totally recommend the manga though. It is one of the best books out there.

[Black_Apalachi]

I think I share your views and will most likely take your advice :D. There's a good manga shop in Liverpool I went to once, so might try and go there.

Is there any other manga or anime by the same people that made Death Note?

[Southe,]

Pfft but they had massive chins! xD thats what annoyed me about the anime. but yes the anime is good. and one major factor makes it awesome.

Kazuya Nakai, lol not alot of speaking but hes awesome and anything hes in is awesome. Kappei Yamaguchi makes a good L aswell sounds so diffrent to Usopp.

Thats what i need to buy :D dvds Kazuya Nakaiis in. anyway yes But yes Death Note as a manga is really good drawing is really well done aswell dosen't get sloppy like other series

[Neversoft]

I think I share your views and will most likely take your advice :D. There's a good manga shop in Liverpool I went to once, so might try and go there.

Is there any other manga or anime by the same people that made Death Note?

The guy that directed Death Note hasn't really done anything else worth mentioning, but the two guys that created the manga are currently publishing a new-ish series called Bakuman. It's light years away from Death Note, however. Madhouse, the animation studio that adapted Death Note to the screen, have produced many fantastic series though. They're probably my favourite studio in fact. Some good stuff they've done includes Hajime no Ippo, Monster, Beck, Trigun and all of Satoshi Kon's films.


Pfft but they had massive chins! xD thats what annoyed me about the anime. but yes the anime is good. and one major factor makes it awesome.

Kazuya Nakai, lol not alot of speaking but hes awesome and anything hes in is awesome. Kappei Yamaguchi makes a good L aswell sounds so diffrent to Usopp.

Thats what i need to buy :D dvds Kazuya Nakaiis in. anyway yes But yes Death Note as a manga is really good drawing is really well done aswell dosen't get sloppy like other series

How can you talk about the voice actors without even mentioning Mamoru Miyano!? He is by far the best voice actor in the entire show and has probably displayed the best voice acting in any anime, ever. Kappei Yamaguchi is good, but he is way overrated and Kazuya Nakai has too small a role to make any impact.

[Black_Apalachi]

The guy that directed Death Note hasn't really done anything else worth mentioning, but the two guys that created the manga are currently publishing a new-ish series called Bakuman. It's light years away from Death Note, however. Madhouse, the animation studio that adapted Death Note to the screen, have produced many fantastic series though. They're probably my favourite studio in fact. Some good stuff they've done includes Hajime no Ippo, Monster, Beck, Trigun and all of Satoshi Kon's films.



How can you talk about the voice actors without even mentioning Mamoru Miyano!? He is by far the best voice actor in the entire show and has probably displayed the best voice acting in any anime, ever. Kappei Yamaguchi is good, but he is way overrated and Kazuya Nakai has too small a role to make any impact.

Cheers :D.

Which characters are each of those voice actors?

[Neversoft]

Mamoru Miyano - Light
Kappei Yamaguchi - L
Kazuya Nakai - Mogi

Mamoru Miyano (Light) and Ryo Naitou (Matsuda) in the very last episode was some of the best voice acting I have ever seen in my opinion.

[Black_Apalachi]

Cool, I think I might watch DN again.

[Neversoft]

Did you first watch it in English or Japanese?

[Black_Apalachi]

Japanese. I'm not interested in watching it in English! :P

[Southe,]

How can you talk about the voice actors without even mentioning Mamoru Miyano!? He is by far the best voice actor in the entire show and has probably displayed the best voice acting in any anime, ever. Kappei Yamaguchi is good, but he is way overrated and Kazuya Nakai has too small a role to make any impact.

But im an OP fanatic so im obviously gonna like them more :D lol theres also franky as sidoh but meh anyway yes last few episodes were great and yea matsuda probably second fave after L.

Bakuman is quite good aswell waiting till the volumes come out

[Neversoft]

Japanese. I'm not interested in watching it in English! :P

Aha, good! :D Some English dubs are pretty good though, but unfortunately Death Notes isn't.


But im an OP fanatic so im obviously gonna like them more :D lol theres also franky as sidoh but meh anyway yes last few episodes were great and yea matsuda probably second fave after L.

Bakuman is quite good aswell waiting till the volumes come out

But you can't deny Mamoru Miyano's talent! As soon as someone mentions Death Note his performance instantly pops into my head. He should do more insane characters. He was great as Kidd in Soul Eater as well.

I've fallen quite far behind with Bakuman. I'm only on chapter 38 but I think theres something like 60 out now. It's a great manga, just not as compelling as Death Note. :P

[Black_Apalachi]

Are there ways to describe different styles of anime or manga? It might help me find stuff I like in the future if there were. For example, you know the way emotions are sort of exaggerated (possibly for humour) in things like Pokemon and FMA (they are the only reference points I have lol, but they both share the style I have in mind)... like when someone is embarrassed their face flashes into tinny eyes/pink cheeks etc? On the other hand, Death Note which is very mature and lifelike in the animation and expressions.

Basically I'm not such a fan of the FMA style, but lean more towards the Death Note style, although I understand DN is clearly more serious while FMA tries to balance emotional aspects with humour. Does this make any sense?! :P

[Southe,]

i think i understand what your getting at.

Tho i can't think of any at the top of my head most serious use that sort of effect when using humour or emotions. I like both really aslong as its not spammed alot

So a scene like this your not a fan of? prefer more serious?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JM9dKEh2IQ

[Neversoft]

Misa gives a couple of funny expressions throughout the series, as does Matsuda. Like Ryuzaki, I think I know what you mean though. I recommend Samurai Champloo if you're looking for a well designed series that doesn't really use over exaggerated facial expressions. Quite a few mature series such as Claymore, Guardian of the Sacred Spirit, Ghost in the Shell, Baccano and Ergo Proxy abandon that anime cliche. I wouldn't go as far as calling it a style though, as it is prominent in most series, mature or not. Cowboy Bebop is a good example of a mature, like-like animated series that still uses those kind of facial expressions. It blends it very well, in fact.

[Black_Apalachi]

Yeah Ryu, but as you say it's alright in moderation. I think FMA gets it about right. I was just thinking if there were any more that cut it out completely like Death Note did, I'd be interested.

'Anime cliche' is a great way to put it Never! I'll look into your suggestions in due course :).

Thanks.

[Neversoft]

You guys should read Slam Dunk! These sports mangas are incredibly addictive.

[LoveToStack]

Texhnolyze is super-serious but it's also woefully slow and will leave you angry overall at the end of each episode.

[PaulMacC]

Might start getting into Manga again. Dropped everything after 2 months but I got a new app on my iPhone that is called iManga. Leeches straight from OneManga, it has everything and updates regularly.

[Nemo]

Might start getting into Manga again. Dropped everything after 2 months but I got a new app on my iPhone that is called iManga. Leeches straight from OneManga, it has everything and updates regularly.
Is that app free?

[Southe,]

Buy the boooooks you can get them online for as little as £2 sometimes
online read new naruto and OP. going to start hajime no ippo sine theres no release over here.

[Neversoft]

Yeah, I personally can't read manga unless its in book form. I did read all 265 chapters of 20th Century Boys online last year though, but that was too good to put down. I have every volume of Slam Dunk downloaded and the latest chapters of Eden and I really want to read them, but I hate doing so sitting in front of a computer. :P

[Southe,]

lol i dont mind i just like having the physical product. and yea it is alot better reading it book form. All the scans online add to much swearing where its not needed. dosent make it any better.

[Neversoft]

Some more Gon appreciation.

Notice his reflection in the water drops in the first image.

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Damn, Masashi Tanaka is such a good artist.

[Southe,]

gonna buy v1 of a few series.

Claymore, Fairytail, Soul eater, 1st 3 Gurren Lagann and may get Gon

[Neversoft]

Gon volumes are only £3.50 each and there are seven volumes in total. You should buy it if you like amazing manga art. :D

I've been reading a few One Shots today. Personant is the best so far. Going to read 13 next, which is by Gintama's author then I might read Strong World and Romance Dawn.

[Southe,]

Romance dawn as in the one shot that turned out to be the most awesome series ever? One Piece. xD

[PaulMacC]

Anyone read the Code Geass manga?

In late 2009, Bandai announced a new project greenlit for 2010. It is going to involve the simultaneous release of multiple products. A manga, titled Code Geass: Jet-Black Renya (Kōdo Giasu: Shikkoku No Renya), is the first product announced. It features a seventeen year-old boy named Renya with a mechanical arm who uses shuriken (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shuriken) as his weapon of choice. The story begins when he encounters C.C. It is supposed to be set in the Edo period (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edo_period). Director Goro Taniguchi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goro_Taniguchi) will be scripting the story, which is meant to be another part of the official Code Geass history.[28] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_Geass#cite_note-27)

[Neversoft]

Romance dawn as in the one shot that turned out to be the most awesome series ever? One Piece. xD

Yes, but sorry 20th Century Boys is the most awesome manga series ever. :P


Anyone read the Code Geass manga?

In late 2009, Bandai announced a new project greenlit for 2010. It is going to involve the simultaneous release of multiple products. A manga, titled Code Geass: Jet-Black Renya (Kōdo Giasu: Shikkoku No Renya), is the first product announced. It features a seventeen year-old boy named Renya with a mechanical arm who uses shuriken (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shuriken) as his weapon of choice. The story begins when he encounters C.C. It is supposed to be set in the Edo period (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edo_period). Director Goro Taniguchi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goro_Taniguchi) will be scripting the story, which is meant to be another part of the official Code Geass history.[28] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_Geass#cite_note-27)

I doubt it. With the exception of Gurren Lagann, manga based on anime tends to be rather crap. Also, urgh they're basing it in the Edo period? What have they done to my favourite setting.

[PaulMacC]

Yes, but sorry 20th Century Boys is the most awesome manga series ever. :P



I doubt it. With the exception of Gurren Lagann, manga based on anime tends to be rather crap. Also, urgh they're basing it in the Edo period? What have they done to my favourite setting.
They have one manga series based on the anime. The others are spin-offs on the anime and then I think they have 2 manga's in different time periods.

[Neversoft]

They're just milking it then?

[PaulMacC]

Pretty much but CG has a huge fanbase

[Southe,]

NOO One Piece :D
you'll see it when you read it.

And im considering getting 20th Century Boys I hear its part of a Viz range which actually translates it properly. no crappy edits like One Piece. Changing God to Kami. which would be right if it was japanese but it aint. just looks stupid >.< Not as bad as Zolo tho >.>

[Neversoft]

Well the antagonist in 20th Century Boys is called Friend but Viz call him 'The Friend' which bugs me a little but its no so bad. The rest of the translation is spot on, no messing around and changing things. However, there is a character who often dreams of the future and because of this the people around him call him God, but the Viz version leaves it as Kami-sama, which as you say is pretty stupid because its not a translation, they're leaving it in Japanese which is beyond the point. Apart from that though everything is perfect. I wish they would just hurry up and release the rest of the volumes.

You should definitely read it as soon as you can though, I promise you won't regret it. The most perfect manga I've ever read I think is Genshiken, but its very closely followed by 20th Century Boys. I'd give every aspect of 20th Century Boys a ten except the characters which I would give a nine, because there is one that annoys me. The main protagonist is one of the best realistic hero characters I've come across though, and the antagonist is definitely one of the most memorable. The story is possibly the most captivating thing I've ever read, which explains why I read all 265 chapters in only two weeks. I just couldn't put it down. Ahh, good times.


http://www.mangaspain.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/20th-century-boys.jpg

By the way, don't watch the live action movies yet. They'll spoil the hell out of you. Don't even watch the trailers, theres major spoilers in the third one that would ruin the entire story. :P

[PaulMacC]

Dont do it Ryu.
IT'S A TRAP.

[Neversoft]

It isn't the number one manga on MAL for no reason, and if it wasn't any good Japan's most expensive movie trilogy wouldn't be based on it.

[PaulMacC]

It isn't the number one manga on MAL for no reason, and if it wasn't any good Japan's most expensive movie trilogy wouldn't be based on it.
Again, IT'S A TRAP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mL7h6NSOKk

[Neversoft]

Hey Friend, is 20th Century Boys the best manga ever?

http://i46.tinypic.com/2u3v8g2.png

Vagabond is also another fantastic read.

http://i49.tinypic.com/29kyjpt.jpg

[Southe,]

well anyway gonna order some stuff tommorow i think so ill see what i fancy tommorow lol. my manga shelf is over filled now so need to sort that out =/

[Neversoft]

You need to order

- 20th Century Boys
- Eden
- Vagabond
- Slam Dunk
- Yotsuba
- Genshiken
- Solanin

;)

[Neversoft]

Why the hell is French manga translated and published so damn fast! It just seems like as soon as a volume is published in Japan, they translate it as soon as possible and release it straight away. Why can't English publishers do that!

Aso, theres a new hyper violent, post-apocalyptic series coming out in English later this year released by Viz called Dorohedoro. It looks really good.

[Southe,]

cos Viz suck tbh only do well with there advanced series. DN and Gintama

[Neversoft]

Completely disagree. Viz pretty much own the English language manga industry and are willing to publish series other publishers wouldn't dare go near. They do well with all their series but I personally think they excel with their seinen releases such as Vagabond, 20th Century Boys and Pluto. In Vagabond they even kept the names the Japanese way around to keep the authenticity. They also include extremely detailed translation notes. Their SJ Advance series is actually the only disappointing thing about Viz. The manga released under the SJ Advance title seems to be aimed more at younger teens so things have been simplified and words changed. The cero in Bleach for example is now called the Doom Blast. Translation in more mature series released under the SJ Advanced title, such as Slam Dunk and Monster, is much better though. Bad mouthing Manga Entertainment is one thing but please don't bad mouth Viz Media, since they do a fantastic job.

Also, why did you single out Viz when I actually just said 'English publishers'?

[Southe,]

because i seen viz and decided to pic on them. and im unhappy at the way they treat One Piece. And dragonball is heavily edited

- Zolo
- Other name changes
- Editing
- Translation sucks

Oh and they dont have the balls to have someone call themselfs god but do it in an earler volume.

- "Just because you're the Kami... That doesn't mean you can just destroy everything!!"

-"PEOPLE DO NOT FEAR THE KAMI."
"FEAR... IS THE KAMI.""


- Eneru: "Watch your mouth... I am the Kami!!"
Luffy: "I don't see anything godlike about you!!"
----
Luffy: "And you call yourself... ...a Kami?!"
----
Eneru: "Why, you little twit!!"
----
Eneru: "I am the Kami! Everything bends to my will!!"
----
Eneru: "Nothing is impossible for me! For I am the omnipotent... ...Kami!!"

- Sanji: "Ah... Kami... There was one more thing I wanted to say... Oh, uh, but before that... Thanks... I was just thinking... *fwoo* ...how I wanted a light...!
Eneru: "And? What is it you wanted to say?"
Sanji: "Oh... Drop dead."

[Neversoft]

If you're unhappy with the way they treated One Piece and Dragon Ball then how come you said they do well with their SJ Advance series which both of those manga are released under? Also, as I mentioned, the SJ Advance series is typically targeted at younger audiences so changes in translation are expected. You don't seem to have much hands on experience with Viz, so you can't really criticise them. Also, why on earth do you say the translation sucks? The translation is perfect. There is also nothing wrong with the editing. Really you just don't like the name changes.

[Southe,]

If you're unhappy with the way they treated One Piece and Dragon Ball then how come you said they do well with their SJ Advance series which both of those manga are released under?

no there not? Theres all the SJ advance series.

Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo SJ Advanced Edition (http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=407)
(http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=407)Buso Renkin (http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=449)
(http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=407)Claymore (http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=450)
(http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=407)D.Gray-man (http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=451)
(http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=407)Death Note (http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=392)
(http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=407)Eyeshield 21 (http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=222)
(http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=407)Gin Tama (http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=698)
(http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=407)Gun Blaze West (http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=798)
(http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=407)Hunter x Hunter (http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=223)
(http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=407)I"s (http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=333)
(http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=407)JoJo's Bizarre Adventure (http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=224)
(http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=407)Kurohime (http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=702)
(http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=407)NORA: The Last Chronicle of Devildom (http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=831)
(http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=407)Pretty Face (http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=704)
(http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=407)Ral Ω Grad (http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=829)
(http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=407)Reborn! (http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=455)
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(http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=407)Rosario+Vampire: Season II (http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=1129)
(http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=407)Strawberry 100% (http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=706)
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(http://viz.com/products/products.php?series_id=407)


Also, as I mentioned, the SJ Advance series is typically targeted at younger audiences so changes in translation are expected.

"a new imprint under the company's SHONEN JUMP brand that will present the latest cutting-edge manga stories offering titles with progressive storylines and characters to older teens and young adults." ANN

And as far as ive seen through DGM, Gintama, Death Note. They dont insert crappy puns and phrases like "you scally wags"


You don't seem to have much hands on experience with Viz, so you can't really criticise them.

10 series and over 100 books i own from them i think i have enough experience with viz to give my opinion on there products as a customer.


Also, why on earth do you say the translation sucks? The translation is perfect.

You havent read One Piece.


There is also nothing wrong with the editing. Really you just don't like the name changes.

Once again you havent read One Piece. and Dragonball was edited. im not sure of any other series tho.

[Neversoft]

Sorry, but ten series is not much. I own more than twenty series, with over 200 manga all from vastly different genres and demographics. I own Viz's SJ Advance series, their normal shounen series, their editor's editions, their signature editions, their seinen series and old manga from way back when Viz released everything under the same title. Plus I have read a lot of manga online and have been exposed to many different translating and editing efforts, both good and bad. If anyone knows the quality of the manga Viz release, its me.

Also, for your information I have read One Piece. The translation was fine. It was easy to follow, I knew what was happening and everything made sense. Just because it may differ from the translation in the anime it doesn't mean it was translated badly. The dialogue has simply been simplified for kids.

Also, you just proved my point by correcting me when I said One Piece and Dragon Ball were SJ Advance series. Since they're under the normal shounen category they are most definitely series targeted more specifically at older kids and younger teenagers. Hence the simplifications. Bleach is also released under the normal shounen title, which would explain why they have simplified things, removed references to Japanese culture and have changed names of moves such as the cero to the doom blast - just like in One Piece and Dragon Ball.

Also, who are you to say I haven't read One Piece when you're saying Viz suck after barely scratching the surface of their manga.

[Southe,]

Sorry, but ten series is not much. I own more than twenty series, with over 200 manga all from vastly different genres and demographics. I own Viz's SJ Advance series, their normal shounen series, their editor's editions, their signature editions, their seinen series and old manga from way back when Viz released everything under the same title. Plus I have read a lot of manga online and have been exposed to many different translating and editing efforts, both good and bad. If anyone knows the quality of the manga Viz release, its me.

So im not alowed an opinion now? because i dont have as much books or series as you?

Also, for your information I have read One Piece. The translation was fine. It was easy to follow, I knew what was happening and everything made sense. Just because it may differ from the translation in the anime it doesn't mean it was translated badly. The dialogue has simply been simplified for kids.

simplified and added puns. isnt a "Perfect" translation.

Also, you just proved my point by correcting me when I said One Piece and Dragon Ball were SJ Advance series. Since they're under the normal shounen category they are most definitely series targeted more specifically at older kids and younger teenagers. Hence the simplifications. Bleach is also released under the normal shounen title, which would explain why they have simplified things, removed references to Japanese culture and have changed names of moves such as the cero to the doom blast - just like in One Piece and Dragon Ball.

Fact is they are still edited, Simplyfied and name changes i expect them to do a proper translation. Not leaving god as Kami. Obviously some things will be lost in translation which is fine like Sogeking is called Sniperking in the Viz volumes which is fine by me. But not adding in silly puns.

Also, who are you to say I haven't read One Piece when you're saying Viz suck after barely scratching the surface of their manga.

Because you havent mentioned that you have before, And. It dosent matter how many series ive read. I am alowed to give MY opinion on what ever i like dosent matter if i had only read a couple series or as many as you.


Couldnt be bothered multi quoting

[Neversoft]

Yes, simplifing the dialogue is a perfect translation because it is aimed at CHILDREN. You can't expect them to leave in Japanese text - children just wouldn't understand. Viz have chosen not to aim One Piece at people of your age - please try and understand that. Also, why the hell would they leave God as Kami in a childrens manga? Enlighten me. This also inforces what I said about you having little hands on experience with Viz, because in 20th Century Boys (a more mature series) they do actually leave God as Kami. The target audience of a manga such as 20th Century Boys is able to understand all of the references to Japanese culture and are able to take in translation notes. The children One Piece is aimed at WILL NOT GET IT.

Yes, you are allowed an opinion, but your reasons for claiming Viz 'suck' are completely absurd. Plus you're only using One Piece as an example, which doesn't even count for 1% of all the manga Viz have released. When you're actually familiar with their work please get back to me, because then your opinion might mean something.

[Nemo]

Yes, simplifing the dialogue is a perfect translation because it is aimed at CHILDREN. You can't expect them to leave in Japanese text - children just wouldn't understand. Viz have chosen not to aim One Piece at people of your age - please try and understand that. Also, why the hell would they leave God as Kami in a childrens manga? Enlighten me. This also inforces what I said about you having little hands on experience with Viz, because in 20th Century Boys (a more mature series) they do actually leave God as Kami. The target audience of a manga such as 20th Century Boys is able to understand all of the references to Japanese culture and are able to take in translation notes. The children One Piece is aimed at WILL NOT GET IT.

Yes, you are allowed an opinion, but your reasons for claiming Viz 'suck' are completely absurd. Plus you're only using One Piece as an example, which doesn't even count for 1% of all the manga Viz have released. When you're actually familiar with their work please get back to me, because then your opinion might mean something.
You go girl!

[Southe,]

Yes, simplifing the dialogue is a perfect translation because it is aimed at CHILDREN. You can't expect them to leave in Japanese text - children just wouldn't understand. Viz have chosen not to aim One Piece at people of your age - please try and understand that. Also, why the hell would they leave God as Kami in a childrens manga? Enlighten me. This also inforces what I said about you having little hands on experience with Viz, because in 20th Century Boys (a more mature series) they do actually leave God as Kami. The target audience of a manga such as 20th Century Boys is able to understand all of the references to Japanese culture and are able to take in translation notes. The children One Piece is aimed at WILL NOT GET IT.

Yes, you are allowed an opinion, but your reasons for claiming Viz 'suck' are completely absurd. Plus you're only using One Piece as an example, which doesn't even count for 1% of all the manga Viz have released. When you're actually familiar with their work please get back to me, because then your opinion might mean something.

Stupid bloody browser =/ lost what i had typed -.- so ill just have to sum it up in points

- My "Viz Sucks" comment did sound a bit harshy but was only meant to reflect on the treatment of OP/DB
- I know its aimed at a younger market but dosent excuse the fact that they dumb it down to 4kids level and use 4kids terms and silly pirate puns ( tho to be faire pirate puns where only used in early chapters ).
- Im aware that everything needs to be translated and japanese text cant be left in and thats what i want to happen.
- I also agree on the fact that if a japanese pun is lost in translation a suitable pun should either be inserted or just replaced with something else. For example. Sogeking > Sniperking.
- Example of bad translation in my opinion. Tori Tori no Mi, Model: Falcon. Tori meaning bird would mean a suitable translation should have been "Bird Bird Fruit, Model: Falcon" But viz had it down as Tweet Tweet. which isnt correct and dosent work with th fact the guy turns into a falcon not a chirpy little bird. And is also a 4kids term.
- Kami.. They should just have balls and translate it as God. and the fact they have someone else call them selfs God in a previous chapter makes no sense.
- And They used Kami in chapters and didnt bother to add a editor note until a couple volumes when it appeared.
- Your end comment annoyed me =/ im all up for debates/arguments makes this forum worth coming to. but comments like that just annoy the **** out of me. saying my opinion means nothing =/

[Neversoft]

Yeah well what you said annoyed me, but I'm sure we'll live. Also, Bird Bird Fruit, Model: Falcon is a silly title. No wonder it was changed. I am not going to continue this debate because you are just not taking in what I am saying. No offence, but your opinon didn't really mean anything because you claimed Viz suck when apparently you were actually only referring to their work on One Piece and Dragon Ball. If you really did just mean that Viz's work on One Piece and Dragon Ball sucked then you would have said that in the first place. We can't have a meaningful debate when one of us is not certain on what we're debating. We're never going to agree anyway, so there is no point in continuing this pointless argument.

[Southe,]

Bird Bird Fruit, Model: Falcon is Correct tho. and its alot better than Tweet Tweet. Pretty sure if Giga Drill Breaker was renamed to something like Super Duper Twirling Drill you would have something to say.

And i could say the same to you. No matter what you say. Simplifying it and dumbing down is not a "Perfect" translation. No matter what age group its aimed at.

And you know what im like i say MANGA suck for missing subs and not adding clean OP/ED. I just say they do dosent mean i hate them completly just dont go into the details why. So when i said Viz sucked i was meaning cos of OP. My manga wouldnt be 95% Viz if i thought they sucked completly.

And fine end it here.

Speaking of Viz
Manga ordered.
One Piece 23 - 33
Soul Eater 1
Fairy Tail 1
Gurren Lagann 1
~~~~~~~~~~
One Piece Volume 1 & 55 (Japanese)
One Piece Logs 3 - 5

And got my Volume Zero today

[Neversoft]

Whatever man, whatever.

[Neversoft]

Chapter 100 of Claymore was EPIC.

http://i48.tinypic.com/uvped.jpg

Yet more questions proposed to the audience though. I hope most of them are resolved by the end of the series. :P

[Southe,]

http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000002/000281412/16-17.jpg (http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/573/credits/)


Picture speaks for itself

[Neversoft]

Urgh, that picture reminded me of Uzumaki for some reason. What a filthy, disgusting manga that is.

[Southe,]

O.O calling one piece a disgusting manga or Uzumaki? and in what way?

[Neversoft]

Uzumaki. It's the most disgusting thing I have ever seen. I'm surprised the creator didn't kill himself or something drawing such filthy images. Some manga is just plain wrong.

I feel sick every time I search Uzumaki in google images, but I just have to show you how filthy this stuff is.

http://pwbeat.publishersweekly.com/blog/wp-content/2006/10/Uzumaki.jpg

http://newsimg.ngfiles.com/123000/123647_Uzumaki.jpg

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr32/Forkortelse/uzum.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/122/279956214_5bd27beeb7_o.jpg

http://www.narbonic.com/pulp_uzumaki.jpg

http://www.walrusmagazine.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/ito-gyo-creature.jpg

http://psychsouljam.kokidokom.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Gyohuman-678x1024.jpg

God it makes me sick. Excuse me while I go and throw up. I want to go to Japan but when I see stuff like this I just want to die. That isn't even the half of it... thankfully the most disgusting images can't be found on google, or at least I'm not going to bother looking for them.

It's bad enough they made a live action film of it...

http://verleih.polyfilm.at/uzumaki/uzumaki_03p.jpg

How ******* disgusting is that? I'm glad I live in England where we have sanity and the BBFC to censor all of this filth.

I feel my mind has been poisoned. I first came across Uzumaki while I was flicking through this kind of manga encyclopedia in the college library two years ago. Its quite a big book that covers around 250 different manga. There is so much disgusting manga in existence its unbelievable. There was this image that I don't even want to try finding of a girl ripping her stomach open and scooping out all of her insides. Whats worse is that it was a colour page, so everything was stained red with blood. God... why do people think of these things.

[Southe,]

>.>



<.<



Think i'll check that out. xD nah it does look a bit wierd but i like gory films and stuff.
and i dont see how the OP pic reminded you off all of this XD was only a fist through him xD

[PaulMacC]

Holy ****, that image is insane.
I'm going to read the Ippo manga soon, after I read and finish Eyeshield 21 manga and anime.

[Neversoft]

The right panel reminded me of it because of all the swirly mist effects. Uzumaki means spiral in Japanese, and the manga is about a town that becomes obsessed with spirals. People start turning into snails and keep seeing swirly lines and spirals everywhere. I was going to buy Uzumaki at one point because its only three volumes long and it sounded good from the description, but when I saw images of it in that book I mentioned I was instantly turned off. Don't get me wrong, I like a bit of gore myself but Uzumaki isn't gory. It's just disgusting. As was that image of the girl ripping her stomach open with all of her guts flying out. Who wants to see that? Seriously. I can't even begin to imagine some of the stuff these people come up with in their minds. Actually, I don't even want to.

[Southe,]

ah kk and yea i knew uzumaki meant spiral.
Manga splurge on friday

[Southe,]

was flicking through volume 5 of Gintama and i noticed they used the word Okama.. but they won't use it in the one piece volumes =/ they change it to "Oh come my way" -.- bet you its because gintama is in the advance range..

Still waiting on my Monster V1. Got my Gurren Lagann v1 aswell. Lots of fan service.

[Neversoft]

Yeah, the Gurren Lagann manga does have a lot of fanservice, haha. Even a little pull out page of Yoko... I was pleasantly surprised with the manga for Gurren Lagann though. Usually manga based on anime tends to be very disappointing, but Gurren Lagann managed to include everything that made the anime brilliant while still offering a new take on things. The art is great as well. I wasn't sure they would be able to emulate the anime's art style, but thankfully they managed to pull it off. Still, I wonder how they will visualize Spiral Space. Even the assistant director of the anime had trouble with that.

Also - OHMYGOD @ CLAYMORE CHAPTER 103

http://i44.tinypic.com/21oyfqh.png

[PaulMacC]

What chapter does Claymore start to differ from the anime, I know towards the end of the anime it goes completely off.
I may aswell just read it all to be honest.

[PaulMacC]

There was no computers available in study period and I had computer coursework to do so I used my iPhone's Manga application read the Hajime No Ippo manga. The arc right after New Challenger ends is so epic. The flashback WW2 arc. EPIC.

[Neversoft]

I read a really good oneshot the other day called Loop. It's about this millionaire who was brutally murdered and has to come back from the dead just to repeat the murder all over again once every year, because he left the world with great regret and so his soul is not able to pass into the other realm. On the 100th repeat he brings forth incredible determination to fight back and get revenge on his murderers. It is intense, brutal and hugely satisfying even though one part is a little cliche. I really recommend it. It's only 56 pages long.

http://www.onemanga.com/Loop/
http://myanimelist.net/manga/14943/L%E2%88%9Ep

[PaulMacC]

I read a really good oneshot the other day called Loop. It's about this millionaire who was brutally murdered and has to come back from the dead just to repeat the murder all over again once every year, because he left the world with great regret and so his soul is not able to pass into the other realm. On the 100th repeat he brings forth incredible determination to fight back and get revenge on his murderers. It is intense, brutal and hugely satisfying even though one part is a little cliche. I really recommend it. It's only 56 pages long.

http://www.onemanga.com/Loop/
http://myanimelist.net/manga/14943/L%E2%88%9Ep
Just read it, it was pretty good. The art style is awesome.

[Neversoft]

Yeah, its from the same author that did Pretty Face and Mx0 - two popular shounens that were unfortunately cancelled. I was surprised by Loop as both Pretty Face and Mx0 were no where near as gory or brutal. I loved the attitude of the main character in Loop. "I may not have been able to do this before, but things have changed." he says after slamming a cleaver right into a persons head just before decapitating the other, haha.

Also, stop lying to yourself! You haven't read 407 chapters of Hajime no Ippo. :P

[PaulMacC]

I'm starting to enjoy reading manga, especially the Ippo manga.

[Southe,]

on a forum i stumbled on peopel where saying ippo was becoming bit dull? and its just dragging on now. wouldnt know since i havent read it but hopefuly it dosen't

[Neversoft]

Yeah, one review on MyAnimeList says;

"Since the author realized that he's going to make this run as long as he lives (or as long as there's interest) it has become a formulaic, and repetitive story. It basically runs like this:

-Training
-Fights
-End fight filler
-Rinse and repeat... FOREVER!"

It is about one million chapters long after all. I don't think the author could bring anything new to the series at this point.

[Southe,]

thats the word i meant to say repetitive. yea but he should end it then. >_< rather have a series end on a high than be dug to the ground.

[Neversoft]

If you say so Paul. :P

Read volume 3 of Eden: It's an Endless World today and oh my gah! Violence!

http://i44.tinypic.com/2vt7ggx.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/w16ut3.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/24ounbs.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/28l6og2.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/al4s94.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/642y5z.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/15o6nag.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/2dt0w2b.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/2els5q8.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/dzgiae.jpg

The girl was on a land mine, so the sniper shot her foot off so it would explode.

Also caught up with Bakuman and Claymore. I haven't actually watched any anime in a while.

Ohh daaaaamn! I forgot how brutally violent Eden was. I really need to finish it now the rest has been scanlated.

[PaulMacC]

The manga probably will become a bit repetitive soon but Ippo has still to move on to the World Championship stage. I'd like to see that and then what happens after boxing for him. Opening his own gym perhaps and training people like the coach.

[Neversoft]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/KIMaster/KyoukaraOrewav06c44-092.png

[Southe,]

no idea what happens. but iw ould have liked it if he had won lots of titles and then started the top championship. or something and it ends him training like new challenger. and then make big ass movie for him winning the top belt.

Read all the latest FMA and its soo good.

Read OP some of my OP manga. its nice to read it in english but some of the terms and names are bad :(

Wish there where manga librarys you could go to xD much better reading a book than online i get bored easily when i have internet.

[Neversoft]

im considering getting 20th Century Boys

So much for that... :eusa_hand

[Southe,]

Once i buy all of Monster i'll buy it.

I'll be buying that.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-05-17/kodansha-intl-to-print-manga-of-samurai-hagakure-book

[Neversoft]

Forbidden Planet are selling the first six volumes of Eden for 99p each! I spent over £30 getting them last year. :eusa_wall

I was exposed to hundreds of manga yesterday, but despite my vulgar display of wealth I didn't buy any. Guess I'll splash out next week when it comes to the Expo.

[Neversoft]

Been reading Onani Master Kurosawa lately. It's like an alternate version of Death Note. Fantastic stuff.

http://i45.tinypic.com/27yv76x.jpg

http://i50.tinypic.com/2j131gj.jpg

http://i47.tinypic.com/2lade85.jpg

http://i49.tinypic.com/300w37q.jpg

http://i48.tinypic.com/288t6wh.jpg

[Nemo]

JUST AS PLANNED! >:DDDD

[Neversoft]

It pretty much copies the panel from the Death Note manga lol.

http://forbiddenplanet.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/death%20note%20exactly%20as%20planned.jpg

Spot on.

The "I am Kurosawa" part is also very much the same as it is in Death Note.

[PaulMacC]

Just ordered the first three paperback volumes of One Piece.

[PaulMacC]

They came today but I was sleeping so I'll have to pick them up on Monday/Tuesday.

[Southe,]

unlucky. wonder which ones you got. since some of the volume 1's have zoro and some have zolo. wasn't until v4 they kept it as zolo. 1-20 are decent but some of the translations are 4kidsish or bad. 21+ is good especially the speed up volumes im sure the translator was changed or somthing because alot of the stuff is spot on now apart from the odd thing. and they havent edited out anythign aswell which is good. currently on V33

Also payday today so gonna buy some stuff. can;t think of any dvds i want.. so probs just gonna buy manga. shall have a look later.

[PaulMacC]

unlucky. wonder which ones you got. since some of the volume 1's have zoro and some have zolo. wasn't until v4 they kept it as zolo. 1-20 are decent but some of the translations are 4kidsish or bad. 21+ is good especially the speed up volumes im sure the translator was changed or somthing because alot of the stuff is spot on now apart from the odd thing. and they havent edited out anythign aswell which is good. currently on V33

Also payday today so gonna buy some stuff. can;t think of any dvds i want.. so probs just gonna buy manga. shall have a look later.
I dont know. I hope the manga draws me in, I want to get into manga so if I like it I'll probably order the rest bit by bit.

[Southe,]

manga is good look out for Pandaman he's in almost every chapter.

[Neversoft]

http://i49.tinypic.com/24ocajp.png

[Nemo]

http://i49.tinypic.com/24ocajp.pngI cant tell if thats hentai or just a weird manga


which is what hentai means i guess so im right either way. score.

[Neversoft]

It's ecchi, not hentai. The most they show is boobs. By the way, its a manga, not an anime. :P

Here are some more exciting manga images for your enjoyment.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/KIMaster/kishiwada034.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/KIMaster/Detroit_Metral_City_v07_c70_-_026.png

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/KIMaster/AprilKongoBanchou2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v475/KIMaster/KongoBanchouWeeklyPicture.jpg

[Southe,]

1. One Piece - 1st Week sales = 1,580,757 <- 1.58 Million :D
2. Bleach - 1st Week sales = 465,713 <- Bleach dosent even make it to half a Million
3. D.Grayman - 1st Week sales = 241,360
4. Vagabond - 1st Week sales = 112,709 <- I hear thats quite good.
5. Saint Young Men - 1st Week sales = 109,255

[Neversoft]

Vagabond is the BEST.

[Neversoft]

Got back into Eden now the scanlators have finished it. Although I'm a little confused after having left it for so long. It's not an easy series to recap either... a lot of dialogue and a lot of information to take in! Oh well, I am sure it'll all come back to me as I continue to read the rest.

It's still as brutal as I remember it.

http://i46.tinypic.com/1zbw1ns.jpg

[Neversoft]

Just finished Eden. I'm struck for words. The ending was a little disappointing but the rest was so damn good it barely matters. One of the best manga I have ever read.

[Southe,]

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-06-23/japanese-comic-ranking-june-14-20

Ippo got to 4th spot with 92 volume and OP dropped to 5th.

[Alba]

I'm thinking about getting Into Battle Royale. Looking for someone to sell me on the Idea, please?

Also, recently bought the 3 Cowboy Bebop volumes. Was surprised to learn there was only 3, so I quickly snapped them up for a very good price! I've always stalled on watching the anime, so hopefully the Manga doesn't disappoint.

[Neversoft]

The Cowboy Bebop manga is pretty much just an extension to the series. Just more bounty missions and adventures. If you want to get sold on Battle Royale just watch the film and keep in mind it barely scratches the surface of the manga.

[Southe,]

Bought
OP - 44-48 + jp 58
FMA - 3-10

Once FMA is done and OP is current can mass buy another series. seems to work out better than buying 1-2 of diffrent series.

[Neversoft]

- Welcome to the NHK
- BLAME!
- Planetes
- GTO

The list continues to grow. I think Tokyopop have a habit of publishing something for a year or two then giving up and moving on to something else. Rinse and repeat - forever. Sucks because no one else will probably release these series again. Sucks even more that when I had a chance to buy them years ago I never did. :eusa_wall

[Alba]

I just bought Battle Royale 1-3 from eBay for a total of £3.74. Can't complain. I've saw the movie, and thought It was pretty awesome. Alot of plot-holes though, which I hope to have cleared up by reading the manga.

[Neversoft]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/COMPLETE-BATTLE-ROYALE-ULTIMATE-ED-Vol-1-3-4-MANGA-/200489400030?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Collections_Lots_Books_EH&hash=item2eae1976de

By the way Ryuzaki, the NHK novel went for £60 in the end! :P

[Southe,]

£60 >_< wouldnt spend that on a novel.

Pages of awesomeness

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e171/southe89/Friends.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e171/southe89/weak.jpg

Oda's drawings keep getting better D: man deserves a break only gets 1 day off a week. and i edited the friends bit. hate how people use Nakama.

When i get my own place see if i have a spare room. wall sized book shelf.

[Nemo]

£60 >_< wouldnt spend that on a novel.

Pages of awesomeness

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e171/southe89/Friends.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e171/southe89/weak.jpg

Oda's drawings keep getting better D: man deserves a break only gets 1 day off a week. and i edited the friends bit. hate how people use Nakama.

When i get my own place see if i have a spare room. wall sized book shelf.
I'm opposite, i hate the use of friends and prefer Nakama. And im sure he enjoys drawing for a living, i know i wouldnt mind

n oh dear. I doubt you'll be able to afford ur own place with the amount u spend

[Southe,]

im sure he does, but he works at office all the time. Dosent go home. Works 6 days a week. Spends 3 days drawing sketches and drafts and 3 days doing chapter. I know to much D:

And yea i spend about a quarter of my wages on dvds,books etc. And if i do get this job which i should.. then ill be able to spend even more :D. But ill also be putting money aside for when i move out.

[Nemo]

im sure he does, but he works at office all the time. Dosent go home. Works 6 days a week. Spends 3 days drawing sketches and drafts and 3 days doing chapter. I know to much D:

And yea i spend about a quarter of my wages on dvds,books etc. And if i do get this job which i should.. then ill be able to spend even more :D. But ill also be putting money aside for when i move out.You sad child :(

[Southe,]

also forgot, nakama just means friend, crew nothing special.


You sad child :(

How come? And im older than you.

[Southe,]

??? Says your the last one to comment but i see no comment >_<

[Nemo]

also forgot, nakama just means friend, crew nothing special.



How come? And im older than you.
I know but i just like the sound of it


Coz u spend so much! Nothing wrong wit spending on what you like, just sayin, but damn. (Not actually callin u sad dont take offense Oo)

[Southe,]

lol.. i dont spend that much.. some months i spend alot but thats cos save up for big spends xD

[Neversoft]

Received Evangelion volume 3 from United Publications and volume 6 from eBay the other day. Still waiting for volume 5 and 11 from The Book Depository and just ordered volume 4, 7 and 8 from MovieTyme.com. Never ordered with them before, hopefully everything goes okay. Then I just need to hunt down volume 9 and 10 which I have yet to see in stock anywhere!

[Bettah]

I can't stand Manga.

[Neversoft]

Thank you for your valuable contribution. I guess you don't like comics or graphic novels either then? What about films and television series based on stories first created on said mediums?

[Southe,]

If you can't stand that Go Compare guy but you dont see me complaining to them.

But yes. Really wish they did motion manga.

[Neversoft]

Just ordered volume 4, 7 and 8 from MovieTyme.com. Never ordered with them before, hopefully everything goes okay.

Damn, recent sources have told me its out of print indefinitely. Theres £17 wasted.

[Neversoft]

Damn, recent sources have told me its out of print indefinitely. Theres £17 wasted.

Wahey, I have been offered a refund because they can not obtain my items even though it says in their T&C that if an order is cancelled you will be issued with vouches to spend on other items available on the website. Although I haven't got my money back so I guess I shouldn't rejoice just yet. I am going to be looking after my auntie and uncles house in Milton Keynes tomorrow while they're on holiday for a week, so I'll see if they have any Evangelion volumes in stock at the huge Waterstones in MK. If not I guess its down to London again.

[Neversoft]

I'll see if they have any Evangelion volumes in stock at the huge Waterstones in MK. If not I guess its down to London again.

They didn't have any. :(

Also - http://www.nwfdailynews.com/news/crestview-30688-manga-mom.html - LOL

[,elaboratedolls]

Do you read manga? - sometimes.
Do you prefer it to anime? - not really :/
What are your favourites?
Umm... well out of the five mangas I've read
My top five is...

1. Higurashi no Naku Koro ni
2. Death Note
3. Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu
4. K-ON!
5. Vampire Knight


:))

[Neversoft]

The Haruhi manga or the novels?

My favourites...
1. 20th Century Boys
2. Genshiken
3. Claymore
4. Eden: It's an Endless World!
5. Guyver
6. Death Note
7. Solanin
8. A Distant Neighbourhood
9. Welcome to the NHK!
10. BLAME!

[Southe,]

One Piece. Nuff said.

[Neversoft]

You should really try out a few other series.

[buttons]

Do you read manga? - sometimes.
Do you prefer it to anime? - not really :/
What are your favourites?
Umm... well out of the five mangas I've read
My top five is...

1. Higurashi no Naku Koro ni
2. Death Note
3. Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu
4. K-ON!
5. Vampire Knight


:))
how far are you on vampire knight btw? i'm getting so bored waiting for the finale (should be near) and it takes ages to come out :(

[Neversoft]

Finished Azumanga Daioh yesterday. For a 4-panel manga it sure was as engrossing and touching as a normal series. I'd recommend it. Guess its time to pick up the anime again now.

[Southe,]

Naruto, Bleach, DGrayman, Gintama, NHK, Death Note, FMA, Highschool of the dead, Love Hina, Dragonball/Z, Soul Eater, Gurren Lagann, Monster. Thats 14 other series That ive read or currently reading. Thats plenty. And OP stands above all of them..

Can say all you want but theres a reason it sells in the millions each volume. The current arc happens to be one of my faves from any series and the fact he was doing it while doing his part in strong world makes it even more impressive.

[Neversoft]

Naruto, Bleach, DGrayman, Gintama, NHK, Death Note, FMA, Highschool of the dead, Love Hina, Dragonball/Z, Soul Eater, Gurren Lagann, Monster. Thats 14 other series That ive read or currently reading. Thats plenty.

Not really seeing as how they're all very much the same genre.

[Southe,]

"You should really try out a few other series."
"Not really seeing as how they're all very much the same genre."

Who cares? I don't. I read what i want, doesn't mean im not allowed an opinion.

[Nemo]

you guys are always fighting, i feel like the child in the middle :'(

[Neversoft]

"You should really try out a few other series."
"Not really seeing as how they're all very much the same genre."

Who cares? I don't. I read what i want, doesn't mean im not allowed an opinion.
I never denied you an opinion, I just suggested you should check out a few other series.

[Southe,]

Removed it, all i said was get of your high horse,

Just the way he acts annoys me. Oh you should read more. Ive read 14 other series but thats not good enough because there 99% SJ series. Who cares seriously..

^^^
Well should mayb say it without making it sound like your pushing me aside because of the series i have read.. I'll read non sj titles when i have the money to buy other series. Like ive said before once i catch up complete seres i'll buy more. Monster and 20th Centuary boys being the next ones.

[Nemo]

STOP IT! :'(

[Neversoft]

Obviously you since you're making such a big deal out of it. I don't care what you're favourite series is, but you acted like One Piece was the only manga in the world when you said 'nuff said' which is why I suggested you read a few others. I was not being rude, but I should have guessed you would take it the wrong way. You way you act annoys me.


Well should mayb say it without making it sound like your pushing me aside because of the series i have read.. I'll read non sj titles when i have the money to buy other series. Like ive said before once i catch up complete seres i'll buy more. Monster and 20th Centuary boys being the next ones.

I don't like beating around the bush. I like most of the series you mentioned, but they are all the same genre so I simply pointed that out. What do you expect me to say? "Sorry ol' chap, but a lot of those series are rather similar. Not condemning you or anything, but I am sure you would benefit from checking out some seinen titles and manga not associated with the shounen scene. I hope you'll consider my recommendation." I didn't know this website required absolute formality from its users.

Also, why not reply normally?

[Southe,]

"Obviously you since you're making such a big deal out of it."
Not really couldn't care less just thought i would bring it up.
"I don't care what you're favourite series is, but you acted like One Piece was the only manga in the world when you said 'nuff said' which is why I suggested you read a few others."
Well i don't care what yours is? don't reply to my post if you don't care and i've read more than a "few" others,
"I was not being rude, but I should have guessed you would take it the wrong way. The way you act annoys me."
Well it seemed it, and we've had this argument before,

[Neversoft]

Did you even read my post? "I don't care what you're favourite series is, but you acted like One Piece was the only manga in the world when you said 'nuff said' which is why I suggested you read a few others." And why should you care about my favourites? I don't expect you to. Why even bring that up? Read my edit above and lets end this, because quite frankly arguing isn't even worth it anymore. You've made a big deal out of nothing.

[Southe,]

Was going to answer to each part of the comment but once i had done it said i didnt have enough characters to make a post so removed the Quote and just added "".

Big sarcastic answer there no. you said should try out "few" other series, i said 14 series ive read and that was plenty, you replied with "Not really seeing as how they're all very much the same genre" And the reason i made a deal out of it was it seemed like you said the 14 series wasnt plenty because there all the same type and also because of the argument we had before regarding what i read/how many. due to me complaining about Viz translation of OP.

So thought you where having a dig, but if you aren't then thats fine, no need to carry this on.

[Nemo]

I WAS THINKING OF READING SOME MANGA, ANYONE KNOW ANY CHEAP AND/OR GOOD MANGA TO READ?!?!

[Southe,]

Better not say it.. So i'll suggest FMA. Unless your after a series you havent seen

[Neversoft]

I WAS THINKING OF READING SOME MANGA, ANYONE KNOW ANY CHEAP AND/OR GOOD MANGA TO READ?!?!

Lol, stop lying. You don't even read manga. Also, every manga is cheap considering its free to read on the internet. Just take your pick.