Is anyone else sick of idiots campaigning to get booze prices increased?

[Barkseh]

It really gets on my nerves!! If people want to get drunk, let them. It's our lives. If we cause criminal damange then we deal with the consequenses like every other crime. I also find it funny how most the people who say alcohol should be increased in value to stop binge drinking and that tend to be people with no social lives and really good jobs and sumtimes school kids who are brain washed by their really strict parents.

FUMING.

[Black_Apalachi]

I thought the more important point was the fact that making it more expensive won't stop people buying it. You get people on the dole sitting in pubs even before licensing hours until closing who will be sitting there drinking regardless.

When I go out I have a couple of pints and it's pretty expensive as it is. If it becomes more expensive, I'll still go out and have a couple of pints.

The only real effect is that it will make us all poorer while the landlords, off licenses and breweries will be loving it.

[Pyroka]

Raising prices wont make people stop buying it, itl just make people buy less of it I think. I don't care for booze, personally I only drink it for leisure and social chitterchatter. However theres people who go out of their way to get absolutely hammered and start fights just because theyre bored and have nothing better to do. Its always the minority spoil it for the majority.

so mehhhh, let them increase the booze, it wont matter in the end, its like increasing fuel prices, we're still gonna buy it.

[Niall!]

Raising prices will just make many teens steal it.

[efq]

It's not 'then we deal with the consequenses'. People who get stupidly drunk waste half of the ambulances time when they could be somewhere better, you might aswell hoax the police.

Maybe the prices will encourage less of the outragous boozing, nothing wrong with getting 'just' drunk though.

[dirrty]

no point raising the price. people will simply pay more instead of not buying...shock horror!

[ItsDave]

I'm not really bothered. I dont drink alot apart from Pepsi or Dr Pepper but I can understand your frustration.

[NIKKEE]

It's not 'then we deal with the consequenses'. People who get stupidly drunk waste half of the ambulances time when they could be somewhere better, you might aswell hoax the police.


Exactly, I hardly think anyone is going to be like, "ohh, they broke all my car windows, but I feel good that they'll deal with the consequences." I'd really rather that a lot of people didn't have to worry in life, especially my old gran, who has people jumping on her little motor scooter garage, or the drunks who wouldn't leave our back garden and petrified my 6 year old brother.

Such a ridiculous thing to say that. People don't give a **** about the people who are doing the stupid things, like whether or not they're paraletic, they care about themselves and don't want drunks puting fear in to them. It isn't for the drinkers benefit they raise prices, it's for the people they bother. That really is the dumbest thing I've read, "If we cause criminal damange then we deal with the consequenses," what about the people you do that to? I couldn't care less if you had a criminal record, or were punished, I would rather nothing bad happened to me or other people in the first place. Most crimes are done when people are drunk, I think this can really improve things.
And I'm really glad Scotland is doing something about it, I'd love it if all alcohol advertising was banned.

[Black_Apalachi]

[...] I'd love it if all alcohol advertising was banned.

I was about to say, the next stupid thing they're doing is banning alcohol adverts. What's the point? I'd love to know how significant the effect of the ban on McDonalds' adverts during kids' TV hours has had directly on McDonalds' revenue. I doubt it's huge.

I love some alcohol ads, like Guinness for example. I don't remember any tobacco ads but my dad said they were good too. These and cars are the only good ads on TV really and I have no sympathy for people who allow themselves to be so easily influenced as to waste their money and possibly risk their personal health by using these products (alcohol/tobacco/fast food).

[clarissa !!]

paul just needs alcohol to function.

i dont give a ****, i dont drink much.

[GoldenMerc]

people will just steal it i imagine if prices went up.

[NIKKEE]

I was about to say, the next stupid thing they're doing is banning alcohol adverts. What's the point? I'd love to know how significant the effect of the ban on McDonalds' adverts during kids' TV hours has had directly on McDonalds' revenue. I doubt it's huge.

I love some alcohol ads, like Guinness for example. I don't remember any tobacco ads but my dad said they were good too. These and cars are the only good ads on TV really and I have no sympathy for people who allow themselves to be so easily influenced as to waste their money and possibly risk their personal health by using these products (alcohol/tobacco/fast food).

Obviously advertising influences people, it would be a complete waste of time and money if it didn't.

[Black_Apalachi]

paul just needs alcohol to function.

i dont give a ****, i dont drink much.

Neither do I but I still find it stupid.


Obviously advertising influences people, it would be a complete waste of time and money if it didn't.

Yes, but can you really imagine no adverts to suddenly get rid of all the violent and disruptive behaviour caused by people just wanting to get wasted? :rolleyes:

[Blinger1]

They did that here in Australia, didn't help much :)!

But it was just to stop binge drinking and it was for pre-mixed drinks ;)

[NIKKEE]

Neither do I but I still find it stupid.



Yes, but can you really imagine no adverts to suddenly get rid of all the violent and disruptive behaviour caused by people just wanting to get wasted? :rolleyes:

I've got no idea, but it would be worth a try. If you don't think it will work, then it shouldn't be a problem for the people who do like to get drunk or drink a lot. And the people who go out to get wasted in your words, are usually people who are quite stupid - that's my opinion, as who could find that fun - and probably the type of people who are heavinly influenced by advertising.

[GoldenMerc]

Heck, they are going to ban adverts for everything this could make the world ad free :D
but thats not going to happen :(

[FlyingJesus]

Speaking of banning everything... (http://www.fat-pie.com/thechildthatsmeltfunny.htm)

Bad language I think so yeah that's my warning

[GommeInc]

Lowering the prices would be better. Keeping them up just causes more problems - just look at pubs and how not-so-welcoming they are now. Besides, making them low means anyone can drink, and if anyone drinks the novelty of getting completely rat arsed is lost and you only get social drinking - not drinking for the sake of getting drunk. But of course, there would be the step between which will be a huge novelty of "cheap drink, time to get rat arsed!" but after that, peace comes through. Raising it will mean businesses close, people would become anti-social and start destroying and stealing things.

It worked with unfiltering pissed on here :P

[Black_Apalachi]

Heck, they are going to ban adverts for everything this could make the world ad free :D
but thats not going to happen :(

= TV licences becoming a LOT more expensive. nofnx.

[VirtualG]

It really gets on my nerves!! If people want to get drunk, let them. It's our lives. If we cause criminal damange then we deal with the consequenses like every other crime. I also find it funny how most the people who say alcohol should be increased in value to stop binge drinking and that tend to be people with no social lives and really good jobs and sumtimes school kids who are brain washed by their really strict parents.

FUMING.
Ok, I dont really care about the second part of that coz I think it's kinda wrong but the whole bit about it being the drunks person's life, let them do what they want with it is just wrong. I know first hand that it's not just affecting themselves but it is affecting their friends and their family. If we just let people do what they want and suffer the consequences we might get more Hitlers (although I know that letting the price of alcohol wont single handedly create a Hitler The Second :P)

I thought the more important point was the fact that making it more expensive won't stop people buying it. You get people on the dole sitting in pubs even before licensing hours until closing who will be sitting there drinking regardless.

When I go out I have a couple of pints and it's pretty expensive as it is. If it becomes more expensive, I'll still go out and have a couple of pints.

The only real effect is that it will make us all poorer while the landlords, off licenses and breweries will be loving it.
The brewries wont be loving it, the government will then use the money to create better alcohol research and rehab's. Although your right, the only people that will be affected are those who dont drink much in the first place, the alcoholics are addicted, they wont stop, although their money is gonna be put to better use.

Raising prices will just make many teens steal it.
Theres only two years of teens that can buy alcohol, 18's and 19's, the rest steal it anyway and Im pretty sure a lot of 18 and 19 year olds would already do that, and seriously, if theysteal alcohol they will eventually get busted and busted till they learn or a removed from the public, so by the end stealing isn't gonna be a problem.

[GoldSolid]

sry double post

[GoldSolid]

Theres only two years of teens that can buy alcohol, 18's and 19's, the rest steal it anyway and Im pretty sure a lot of 18 and 19 year olds would already do that, and seriously, if theysteal alcohol they will eventually get busted and busted till they learn or a removed from the public, so by the end stealing isn't gonna be a problem.

Nah they usually stand outside shops and ask older people walking buy, or get older friends or 'fun' relatives, anyway I hate drinking and wouldn't care if alcohol was made illegal, I prefer weed.

[VirtualG]

First off, congrats on the double post, that aint nooby at all...
Nah they usually stand outside shops and ask older people walking buy, or get older friends or 'fun' relatives, anyway I hate drinking and wouldn't care if alcohol was made illegal, I prefer weed.
Thats not stealing is it? I was replying to the post about the teens stealing it and how the majority of the already underage ones that steal wouldn't steal it because it's pricey but because they cant buy it anyway. And I believe all drugs (besides that in coffee, chocolate, etc) should be illegal. Alcohol, pot, etc... But theres that old saying that can be applied to this topic, If Guns Are Outlawed, Only Laws Will Have Guns...

[9y]

I dont drink that much but alredy alcohol is expencive!! There is no need to make it higher, Okay maybe the supermarkets went a step too far by bringing out the value stuff at cheap as crap prices, still doesnt mean there should be any more added on top. the're all old ***** who want this and its just annoying. shoot em

[VirtualG]

I dont drink that much but alredy alcohol is expencive!! There is no need to make it higher, Okay maybe the supermarkets went a step too far by bringing out the value stuff at cheap as crap prices, still doesnt mean there should be any more added on top. the're all old ***** who want this and its just annoying. shoot em
I think your wrong on the last bit. From my experience the old "insert astrix's" are the ones getting pissed at the pub, the mothers and parents that dont want their children to be negtively influenced or injured or to become an alcoholic want to increase prices.

[Tintinnabulate]

It's not 'then we deal with the consequenses'. People who get stupidly drunk waste half of the ambulances time when they could be somewhere better, you might aswell hoax the police.



Exactly. People who get stupidly drunk should just be left there tbh and Ambulances should attend to more serious stuff. Its their fault they decided to go out and get drunk so badly that they need help.