Well Well Well... New FA Rule!

[StefanWolves]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_5560131,00.html

From the 2010/11 campaign, the 20 Premier League clubs have voted to introduce measures which will see all teams required to have eight home-grown players out of a squad of 25.This is going to make things much more interesting, make sure you read it ALL, it's going to help the lower PL teams out much more, and will benefit the Welsh and English national teams greatly, but more so in the long term.

Never thought a rule like this would actually come into force in the PL, but it's here, and I'm very shocked.

My only slight reservation is that this change will make the PL weaker, and will suffer against the other big leagues, such as Italy and Spain.

Also, do any other major leagues in Europe have this rule? or are we they only one now? because IDK.

Discuss!

[Hecktix]

Do Chelsea already have 8 home grown players.. if not arent they screwed?

[Wyked]

Won't necessarily weaken the premier league as you could still have a full first team, and 6 subs non-english, although would be good ensuring that more home-grown talent can come through the ranks at every club.

[StefanWolves]

Well, Chelsea could be screwed, but I doubt it, as they probably have enough home grown players in their youth system/reserve team to put into their 25 man squad.

[Wyked]

Do Chelsea already have 8 home grown players.. if not arent they screwed?

A. Cole, J. Cole, Lampard, Daniel sturridge, John Terry, Rhys Taylor, Sam Hutchinson

Lee Sawyer (On loan)
Jacob Mellia (On loan)
Jack Cork (On loan)
Ryan Bertrand (On loan)


So they have 11 ;)

[StefanWolves]

And probably more coming through, the home grown player doesn't really affect anything, it just gives those players a chance that they currently aren't getting, which is good.

[Jack.Lfc]

What does home grown mean? is it like, if you've been at a team since you where such a age you count as one?

[StefanWolves]

The player has to be trained at the club in question for at least 3 years before hand I think, so it doesn't necessarily mean only English/Welsh under 21 players, it could be any nationality player if they have been trained their for 3 years.

If you get me. :P

[Wyked]

What does home grown mean? is it like, if you've been at a team since you where such a age you count as one?

Having the same country of birth as the club's location

So no, they will have to be British.

[Jack.Lfc]

Having the same country of birth as the club's location

So no, they will have to be British.

I think your wrong, im almost certain its done by how long they have been at club.


The definition of home grown is trained for three years under the age of 21 by somebody in the English and Welsh professional system.

[StefanWolves]

I just posted the correct answer above... :P

[Jack.Lfc]

I realised after i posted, nice one.

[StefanWolves]

:P do you love me?

just seen on SSN that Liverpool has the most foreign players over all, 90% of their players are foreign, you're screwed lol.

[Jack.Lfc]

Insua
spearing
gerrard
carragher
darby
pacheco
Johnson
Amoo

There we have it.

Now im buzzing cos i should get tickets for chelsea away, However i have to choose to miss one or the other. Between chelsea and man u.

[StefanWolves]

liverpool away boxing day (H)

[Jack.Lfc]

You goin?

[StefanWolves]

Nah, got to save up for Florida, going away on the 29th. :(

[Jack.Lfc]

Lucky you, have a nice time.

[Blinger1]

Meh, who cares. bring in a rule where you cant dive and we might have a decent game :)

[lBlue]

Crap rule. We'll be fine however it's a crap rule. No longer will get to see the likes of Ronaldo, Robinho, Torres, Drogba, Anelka etc in great quantity etc.

[StefanWolves]

Crap rule. We'll be fine however it's a crap rule. No longer will get to see the likes of Ronaldo, Robinho, Torres, Drogba, Anelka etc in great quantity etc.

this is the only thing that i am worried about. :P

And yah jack, i will thanks. ;)

[Browney]

Why are people buzzin'? You can still have 2 Drogbas upfront and a Drogba on the bench, then just leave your 8 homegrown players on the bus. I don't think they've done enough. We'll be fine anyway. We have a decent enough academy.

[StefanWolves]

wolves will be fine also, but, it's just i can't help but think these rules will affect our domestic game in the long term, is it worth that much risk?

also, no one has answered me, does any other major league in europe have this rule?

[Browney]

HOW WILL IT AFFECT OUR DOMESTIC GAME?

Basically, United can still Have Berba, Rooney, Nani, Anderson, Fletcher, Valencia, Evra, Vidic, Evans, O'Shea and VDS out field, and they can still have Owen, Hargreaves, Park, Ferdinand, Giggs, Scholes and Neville on the bench.

And infact, Giggs, Scholes and Neville will class as homegrown. It will impact most squads very slightly. City can still buy Messi, Aguero and Ribery but put some youngster in the 25 man squad but never get played.

[StefanWolves]

HOW WILL IT AFFECT OUR DOMESTIC GAME?

Basically, United can still Have Berba, Rooney, Nani, Anderson, Fletcher, Valencia, Evra, Vidic, Evans, O'Shea and VDS out field, and they can still have Owen, Hargreaves, Park, Ferdinand, Giggs, Scholes and Neville on the bench.

And infact, Giggs, Scholes and Neville will class as homegrown. It will impact most squads very slightly. City can still buy Messi, Aguero and Ribery but put some youngster in the 25 man squad but never get played.

and what if 5-7 of those players get injured? they're going to had a squad of 18 to play around with for the whole season? that's not good by anyones standards, i mean look at wolves, we have 5-7 of our main players out, and have hardly kicked a ball in the prem, if the rule that is bought in next year would mean that we only 18 players to choose from, that's not good.

[Excellent2]

8 isn't enough. I think atleast half the squad should be english.

[StefanWolves]

this rule doesn't mean all the young players will be english anyway, they can still be foreign.

[Browney]

and what if 5-7 of those players get injured? they're going to had a squad of 18 to play around with for the whole season? that's not good by anyones standards, i mean look at wolves, we have 5-7 of our main players out, and have hardly kicked a ball in the prem, if the rule that is bought in next year would mean that we only 18 players to choose from, that's not good.

I'm not saying that though. I'm saying that say if Drogba was injured, Chelsea have Kalou to step in. Only if Kalou got injured would they have to use Sturridge. And I think you'll find that nowadays, if 5 players do get injured teams tend to play reserves so in the grand scheme of things how much change will it be? Besides, it won't affect our international game either because managers really could just let the english lads rot on the bus.

[adaym]

Before anyone says Arsenal, they probably have more home-grown than not.

Fabregas, Song, Denilson, Vela, Gibbs, Wilshere, Walcott, Bendtner, Clichy, Fabianski, Djourou, Ramsay, Diaby, Traore and a couple of fringe players like Merida, Barazite, Pedro, Nordveit etc.

They're home grown.

[lBlue]

Before anyone says Arsenal, they probably have more home-grown than not.

Fabregas, Song, Denilson, Vela, Gibbs, Wilshere, Walcott, Bendtner, Clichy, Fabianski, Djourou, Ramsay, Diaby, Traore and a couple of fringe players like Merida, Barazite, Pedro, Nordveit etc.

They're home grown.
PMSL..!

[Browney]

Before anyone says Arsenal, they probably have more home-grown than not.

Fabregas, Song, Denilson, Vela, Gibbs, Wilshere, Walcott, Bendtner, Clichy, Fabianski, Djourou, Ramsay, Diaby, Traore and a couple of fringe players like Merida, Barazite, Pedro, Nordveit etc.

They're home grown.

OH IT'S YOU. I cant keep track of all your usernames.

Yeah, actually, I think we'll struggle now I come to think about it.

[StefanWolves]

OH IT'S YOU. I cant keep track of all your usernames.

Yeah, actually, I think we'll struggle now I come to think about it.

Who is he? :/

[Browney]

Who is he? :/

He's a Doncaster fan, he follows Arsenal..?

[StefanWolves]

OH Adammm/Skajo?, just checked and he's not banned?? wondered what had happened to him. :O

[adaym]

PMSL..!

To qualify as home grown, a player will have had to be registered for at least three seasons at an English or Welsh club between the ages of 16 and 21.

So, Matthew, eat your friggin words.

And I'd rather not discuss why I'm using this account if it's all the same to you guys :)

[StefanWolves]

So, Matthew, eat your friggin words.

And I'd rather not discuss why I'm using this account if it's all the same to you guys :)

fair enough, still got that 'passion' for matty I see? :rolleyes:

DIDZ J00 GT H4X0R3D?

[adaym]

No I'm not that stupid. And no, I don't respect Matthew because he doesn't respect others and he's wrong in this thread so I'll make it so. He just looks stupid now for laughing at facts.

Hohooo, it's funny because it's true.

[Jibbish]

24 home grown for villa :)
most in the league

[StefanWolves]

No I'm not that stupid. And no, I don't respect Matthew because he doesn't respect others and he's wrong in this thread so I'll make it so. He just looks stupid now for laughing at facts.

Hohooo, it's funny because it's true.

and because of that, i love you. :D

[Browney]

So, Matthew, eat your friggin words.

And I'd rather not discuss why I'm using this account if it's all the same to you guys :)

Fair does. :wink_blue

[Geraint]

Doesn't affect much really. Got Premier League clubs buying all these players at 15 and stuff and they'll use them but if the under-18 transfer ban came into place it would stop that. A matchday squad, is what, 18 players, what's this 25 all about. Just name 8 homegrown players and don't use them.

[adaym]

Doesn't affect much really. Got Premier League clubs buying all these players at 15 and stuff and they'll use them but if the under-18 transfer ban came into place it would stop that. A matchday squad, is what, 18 players, what's this 25 all about. Just name 8 homegrown players and don't use them.
Teams name 20 odd player squads for all matches, only 18 get chosen for match day. Silly imo.

[CHA!NGANG]

Yea I was going to list the Arsenal players but was beaten too it :P Oh also, Gibbs :D

EDIT: Yeah it's a terrible rule. Suppose it's a start though.

[lBlue]

So, Matthew, eat your friggin words.

And I'd rather not discuss why I'm using this account if it's all the same to you guys :)
What words? I was laughing because when you look at the Arsenal talk with all this talk about foreign players and not having very many English player etc Arsenal are actually a club who don't need to worry about it... :S

So I really don't understand what you're on about.

[adaym]

What words? I was laughing because when you look at the Arsenal talk with all this talk about foreign players and not having very many English player etc Arsenal are actually a club who don't need to worry about it... :S

That doesn't really make sense, why would you laugh at that?

[CHA!NGANG]

What words? I was laughing because when you look at the Arsenal team with all this talk about foreign players and not having very many English players etc Arsenal are actually a club who don't need to worry about it... :S

So I really don't understand what you're on about.

Yeah your original post didn't make much sence when I read it first :P

The rule has nothing to do with Foreign players, so yes we don't need to worry :S

[lBlue]

That doesn't really make sense, why would you laugh at that?<br>&nbsp;Because everyone bangs on about Arsenal only having a number of English players (including me) so everyone would probably of instantly thought "Arsenal are ****** then" however once I saw your post I did indeed realise that Arsenal are pretty much "safe". Hence the laughing... Next time don't jump the gun eh? <img smilieid="10" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.habboxforum.com/images/smilies/confused.gif" border="0"><br><br>
Yeah your original post didn't make much sence when I read it first :P

The rule has nothing to do with Foreign players, so yes we don't need to worry :S<br><br>See above. <br>

[StefanWolves]

<br>&nbsp;Because everyone bangs on about Arsenal only having a number of English players (including me) so everyone would probably of instantly thought "Arsenal are ****** then" however once I saw your post I did indeed realise that Arsenal are pretty much "safe". Hence the laughing... Next time don't jump the gun eh? <img smilieid="10" class="inlineimg" src="http://www.habboxforum.com/images/smilies/confused.gif" border="0"><br><br><br><br>See above. <br>

why all the html?

[lBlue]

why all the html?
Looks swift.

[StefanWolves]

Looks swift.

Okay. :P

[Flamedragon3]

Well at least City are alright with this then. It is a pretty useless rule, and I thought a rule they were going to make was the same standings, (as in home grown and in Britain and Wales for three years) but saying you have to have around 4/5 of these players on the pitch? That would be more effective, but would only be fair as long as all the other Europe clubs have the same rule... which they probably won't. :rolleyes:

[e5]

I dont understand this new rule lol:S

[StefanWolves]

I dont understand this new rule lol:S

what is there not to understand? :/

[Jack.Lfc]

Basically each squad for each game has to have 8 homegrown players in it so that is 8 out of the 25.
A home grown player is someone who is english/welsh, or someone who has been training in england for 3 years when they where under 21.

[StefanWolves]

Basically each squad for each game has to have 8 homegrown players in it so that is 8 out of the 25.
A home grown player is someone who is english/welsh, or someone who has been training in england for 3 years when they where under 21.

hit the nail on the head!