Red Gothic Fountain

[AgnesIO]

Hey,

Just posting to say I think the reception by Habbox over the Red Gothic Fountain being released has be appalling. The ammount of users that have been effectively scammed tonight, due to not realising that it had been released.

I mean where was the News Report telling users? Surely a management member could change the value - I mean management with green usernames MUST surely have access to the RV Panel?

I haven't been scammed thanks to this, however many users have been and sorry but in my opinion considering the ammount of users who rely on habbox, the service was shocking.

[Sammeth.]

Habbox can't be held responsible for people getting scammed. If people want to make a trade then its up to them to try and investigate the situation, rather than purely rely on what Habbox may or may not say.

Rare Values sometimes take a while to update simply because we can't pluck a number out. As a rare values reporter Im sure you would know that we have to wait and collate the values reported rather than just changing the value simply because its been released.

In regards to news, sure we could have been quicker off the mark and I'm sure due to this feedback in future we will be. However first and foremost, surely Habbo should be blamed before a fansite, as I see no news report from them? Habbo should always be regarded as a more official and trustworthy news source surely! If they haven't got anything on the front page mentioning it then I blame Habbo.co.uk for the scammin' occuring. Shame on Habbo, shame on them.

Just my two cents.

[Immenseman]

I don't think anyone is to blame for this. People who are trying to get a bargain have to remember the phrase "there is no such thing as a free lunch" being Rare Values Manager is by no means an easy job and if you were constantly making the changes people wanted you too, you wouldn't have time to go for a slash.

Give the department some slack.

[Sammeth.]

REMEMBER; IF ITS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE IT USUSALLY IS.

Words of wisdom right there.

[Kardan]

Theyr'e not being scammed, scamming is where you've lost something for nothing. They're being ripped off - and that isn't Habbox's fault either. Habbox doesn't have a Rare Value Manager (or whoever it is that changes results) on 24/7.

[Immenseman]

plus the fact habbox rare values are only a guide >: ) used to love using that argument on people "NOBODY USES IT AS A GUIDE THOUGH" "if they think it's that accurate and trust worthy then it's up to them - i'm glad the majority are happy"

fool proof

[Kevin]

I do think it would be a good idea, to maybe take the value out for the particular rare, or highlight it in red to warn people that it has been recently released.

[Immenseman]

as soon as the rare values manager has time he'll move it to the right section and alter the value though, it's actually more effort to warn people. i don't think it's a case of them not knowing the value and waiting it's more of a case that the rare values management are merely humans, not robots. people would do well to remember that. they are normal teenagers like myself and you.

[Black_Apalachi]

Even if people want to act like sheep, trading isn't scamming. Besides what can the Rare Values department do? Until the item in question is traded at a lower value, its value remains the same. The most you can get immediately is the item being moved from the Supers section to Normals section but it would still hold its displayed value until a significant amount are traded for a certain value.

[Netaxes]

Exactly, I'm 5 hours behind the UK. Once I came home at 3:30ish my time, its already 8:30pm in the UK and I moved it once I got on the computer after being spammed by multiple staff members. A little info why it was a bit late being changed.

On another note, I don't think it was a very smart move on Habbo's part. Before it was released, there were only 5 on the hotel. I'm fairly sure the 5 owners were furious when it was released. Doesn't look good for the rare. Yesterday it was 200+ HC's and next week it will be 0.5-0.2.

[Martin]

Dom, Ryan did change the value to "unvalued" as soon as he got online. And also, people with access to the forum would have seen it in the Habbo Uk news and rumours section.

It was changed at like 8:30pm and is now "unvalued" and has been put in categorized rares section for now, after me and luke posted it in the thread.


Netaxes does live in canada I think, so it's not his fault :P

[nvrspk4]

The best comparison I can draw here is "Coffee is hot".

In America, there was a woman who spilt her coffee in her lap and got burns on her legs. She contended that since she wasn't told the coffee was hot, she was entitled to damages. She won, but that's just because America is crazy.

In essence, there will always be a situation that Habbox cannot be 100% on top of. When you make a purchase, in the real world too, you have a responsibility to be informe to at least a certain degree. When people go around hawking something that's supposedly extremely rare, you should be at least a little suspcious. On top of that when prices are varying so widely I would hope that alarm bells would go off and Habbos who didn't know what the hell was going on would just not buy it instead of saying 20HC that sounds good!

[Blinger1]

The best comparison I can draw here is "Coffee is hot".

In America, there was a woman who spilt her coffee in her lap and got burns on her legs. She contended that since she wasn't told the coffee was hot, she was entitled to damages. She won, but that's just because America is crazy.
So it is Habboxs fault. BRING ON TEH COMPENSATION@!11

[AgnesIO]

Habbox can't be held responsible for people getting scammed. If people want to make a trade then its up to them to try and investigate the situation, rather than purely rely on what Habbox may or may not say.

Rare Values sometimes take a while to update simply because we can't pluck a number out. As a rare values reporter Im sure you would know that we have to wait and collate the values reported rather than just changing the value simply because its been released.

In regards to news, sure we could have been quicker off the mark and I'm sure due to this feedback in future we will be. However first and foremost, surely Habbo should be blamed before a fansite, as I see no news report from them? Habbo should always be regarded as a more official and trustworthy news source surely! If they haven't got anything on the front page mentioning it then I blame Habbo.co.uk for the scammin' occuring. Shame on Habbo, shame on them.

Just my two cents.

I know it is largely habbo's fault Sam! Just I do also think that at the time o the release there MUST have been a General Manager, Elle or a News Reporter online!

I know Habbox can not be used to absoulutely use as a bible, however at the end of the day, there is no denying it is.


Theyr'e not being scammed, scamming is where you've lost something for nothing. They're being ripped off - and that isn't Habbox's fault either. Habbox doesn't have a Rare Value Manager (or whoever it is that changes results) on 24/7.

I do indeed know Habbox does not, beng a trialist Rare Value Reort I am aware of that :P
But I think Assistant RVM, News Reporters, or a General Manager (assistant) - atleast oneof the but have been online :P


Exactly, I'm 5 hours behind the UK. Once I came home at 3:30ish my time, its already 8:30pm in the UK and I moved it once I got on the computer after being spammed by multiple staff members. A little info why it was a bit late being changed.

On another note, I don't think it was a very smart move on Habbo's part. Before it was released, there were only 5 on the hotel. I'm fairly sure the 5 owners were furious when it was released. Doesn't look good for the rare. Yesterday it was 200+ HC's and next week it will be 0.5-0.2.

Don't wrry Ryan, I am not blaming you at all - the fact you live the other side o the world I would never blame you for it!

I personally think Habbo should indeed re-look at this, as it was a ludicrous move by habbo.

P.S. It is not that I got scammed (as i didn't :P), but thousands of users, use habbox!

[Immenseman]

Even if they were online I don't really see the point. It's not their job to do it, it's Rare Value Management. AGMs have their own roles as do News Reporters, you're imagining an ideal world where everyone helps each other. Unfortunately, the world nor Habbox is quite like that :P

[Accipiter]

tbh its habbo who should make sure things like this don't happen, but tbf, they don't care as rare values are nothing in their eyes. Surely you got the red gothic fountain for way under its habbox price value? which in my eyes would build up majour superstition.

[Jordan:A]

I think Habbo should look at Habbox values and give a **** about them

[Immenseman]

yeah when people are jumping around like "selling red goth fountain 15hc" you'd be suspicious especially when there are tens if not hundreds of people doing the same thing.

[Black_Apalachi]

This is exactly the same as when the Green Woolly Pillow was released at stupid o'clock early one morning for half an hour or something. I remember logging on that day and seeing everyone selling them. Those of us with a brain cell worked out it's likely these are no longer Supers so we'll keep our Thrones in our pockets thanks very much ;).

[Immenseman]

people are just trying to be greedy and make profits!! both those who were selling knowing it was released, trying to make big bucks and those buying trying to get a bargain to sell on for the price they thought it was. that's where greed gets ya!

[AgnesIO]

This is exactly the same as when the Green Woolly Pillow was released at stupid o'clock early one morning for half an hour or something. I remember logging on that day and seeing everyone selling them. Those of us with a brain cell worked out it's likely these are no longer Supers so we'll keep our Thrones in our pockets thanks very much ;).


Green Pillows own :D I have 11 now :D