Mod fail.

[Accipiter]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showpost.php?p=6078808&postcount=2

shut up and stop effing moaning about stuff like that. get a life.


Edited by Bolt660 (Trialist Forum Moderator): Please don't be rude.


looks like he skipped over the avoiding the filter bit, and just went straight to rude. Dunno if he got warned/infracted for it but it looks like a fail from a users point of view.

[Immenseman]

I've been very critical of late but although you're right the moderator singled out here is only a trialist, so only learning :)

[Accipiter]

he seems to have applied for all open positions o_o

would their be time for learning with that LOL

i guess he will learn sometime though.

[Catzsy]

It is actually debateable as to whether that is avoiding the filter. Fricking and fracking are allowed. I do believe Matt was going to ask nvr about this particular example. Personally I do think it goes beyond the acceptable limit.

[Immenseman]

I don't think effing is the same as fricking and fracking. I think effing is a deliberate breach of the rules.

[Accipiter]

i should get my FURRRK removed then as i mean't fork after using all those *****.

yeah i would see it as avoiding, as i don't say effing for fricken, i say it for the obvious :P

watch me get infracted for this LOL

[Immenseman]

you won't be in feedback because you're making a point.

[Catzsy]

I don't think effing is the same as fricking and fracking. I think effing is a deliberate breach of the rules.

I tend to agree with you here but it does need confirming. :)

[Accipiter]

Is their any forums were we are allowed to flame without being infracted? would be a good idea if you could remove the filter off one subforum. Where we can just all flame without being infracted for avoiding the filter.

[Catzsy]

Is their any forums were we are allowed to flame without being infracted? would be a good idea if you could remove the filter off one subforum. Where we can just all flame without being infracted for avoiding the filter.

The idea has been put forward many times. I can't see it being considered as flaming goes against the fundamental principles of Habbox.

[Hecktix]

At the moment mods aren't directed to deal with 'effing' as filter avoidance.

The avoiding filter rule is probably one of the most complex and crazy rules on Habbox Forum.

Personally I believe that we're all mature enough to have the filter removed but I don't believe nvrspk4 supports this idea.

I don't believe that a thread is needed to point out something as minor as this - if it was an error (and it's not) it would be easily resolved by reporting it and letting a super moderator look over it.

I agree with both Catzsy & Immenseman that "effing" probably should come under the avoidance rule however we cannot deal with it until nvrspk4 confirms whether it is or isn't.

Recently the word "shiz" was confirmed as avoiding the filter (apologies for doing it there - it's an example) so hopefully 'effing' will be the next one to be classified.

[Accipiter]

i agree with removing the filter, personally i'd never use filtered words directed straight at someone, i'd use it to show emotions (mainly anger) at something, and im not going to go, "Oh thats ruddy ridiculous" if i dislike something.

[Hecktix]

i agree with removing the filter, personally i'd never use filtered words directed straight at someone, i'd use it to show emotions (mainly anger) at something, and im not going to go, "Oh thats ruddy ridiculous" if i dislike something.

Agreed.

Obviously some would abuse it however mods aren't here for no reason.. I'm sure we could deal with it :P

Afterall if someone says "you ******* *****" it's going to get removed whether it's asterisks or letters.

[Martin]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showpost.php?p=6078808&postcount=2



looks like he skipped over the avoiding the filter bit, and just went straight to rude. Dunno if he got warned/infracted for it but it looks like a fail from a users point of view.


Well, I'm very sorry about that mistake. I am still learning, and the User just got a friendly pm for that instance.

I hope you reported the post using the http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj275/bolt660/report.gif button, as it then would have been looked at by a super moderator and would have been dealt with, if there was bad content. I am not the only moderator in that section, and we work as a team, so surely other moderators/super moderators would have viewed that post too?


The Only other Trial I am on right now is News, and to be honest when you have plenty of free time, it really is fine to have 2 trials at once, and if I believe I can offer them plenty of my time, then I think I should be permitted to do so.


Once again I am very sorry that this error of Judgement on my behalf has caused you so much concern. I will do my best to up my game from this point forward.

Occasionly there will be things which mods don't pick up on. We are all Human, and sometimes mistakes are unnavoidable.

Sorry Once again.

Martin
(bolt660)


*Edit* Looking at Oli's post, Have I actually done anything *that* wrong then? :P When I saw this thread, and noticed my name in the first post, I was extremely worried that this was going to turn into the "unproffesional Moderation" thread.

[Hecktix]

Well, I'm very sorry about that mistake. I am still learning, and the User just got a friendly pm for that instance.

I hope you reported the post using the http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj275/bolt660/report.gif button, as it then would have been looked at by a super moderator and would have been dealt with, if there was bad content. I am not the only moderator in that section, and we work as a team, so surely other moderators/super moderators would have viewed that post too?


The Only other Trial I am on right now is News, and to be honest when you have plenty of free time, it really is fine to have 2 trials at once, and if I believe I can offer them plenty of my time, then I think I should be permitted to do so.


Once again I am very sorry that this error of Judgement on my behalf has caused you so much concern. I will do my best to up my game from this point forward.

Occasionly there will be things which mods don't pick up on. We are all Human, and sometimes mistakes are unnavoidable.

Sorry Once again.

Martin
(bolt660)


*Edit* Looking at Oli's post, Have I actually done anything *that* wrong then? :P When I saw this thread, and noticed my name in the first post, I was extremely worried that this was going to turn into the "unproffesional Moderation" thread.

You haven't done anything wrong :) - See my PM :)

[Immenseman]

Well, I'm very sorry about that mistake. I am still learning, and the User just got a friendly pm for that instance.

I hope you reported the post using the http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj275/bolt660/report.gif button, as it then would have been looked at by a super moderator and would have been dealt with, if there was bad content. I am not the only moderator in that section, and we work as a team, so surely other moderators/super moderators would have viewed that post too?


The Only other Trial I am on right now is News, and to be honest when you have plenty of free time, it really is fine to have 2 trials at once, and if I believe I can offer them plenty of my time, then I think I should be permitted to do so.


Once again I am very sorry that this error of Judgement on my behalf has caused you so much concern. I will do my best to up my game from this point forward.

Occasionly there will be things which mods don't pick up on. We are all Human, and sometimes mistakes are unnavoidable.

Sorry Once again.

Martin
(bolt660)


*Edit* Looking at Oli's post, Have I actually done anything *that* wrong then? :P When I saw this thread, and noticed my name in the first post, I was extremely worried that this was going to turn into the "unproffesional Moderation" thread.
Nice to see a moderator who genuinely cares about their position. +REP.

[adaym]

If 'Meet the Fockers' is allowed as a movie title then I think effing and focking should be allowed... it's not hurting anyone.

[Immenseman]

I see it like this. If when I went to school I said fricking hell I wouldn't have been told off. If I said effing hell I probably would have done.

In general I don't think the filter should be removed. We'd be subject to a lot more swearing which doesn't create a nice atmosphere across the board. Makes it look a very daunting place to new members if there were swear words in every other post.

Don't use Habbo as an example - that isn't a forum. On Habbo Forums, the official sulake ran one there is still a filter. On habbo you see the swear word for about 30 seconds on here you'd see it until the thread was inactive, which could be months.

[Accipiter]

wasn't trying to get you fired bolt and you've probaly learn't a new rule now so its for the better :)

and i dislike the filter so i don't report posts that avoid it :P

[Hecktix]

I see it like this. If when I went to school I said fricking hell I wouldn't have been told off. If I said effing hell I probably would have done.

In general I don't think the filter should be removed. We'd be subject to a lot more swearing which doesn't create a nice atmosphere across the board. Makes it look a very daunting place to new members if there were swear words in every other post.

Don't use Habbo as an example - that isn't a forum. On Habbo Forums, the official sulake ran one there is still a filter. On habbo you see the swear word for about 30 seconds on here you'd see it until the thread was inactive, which could be months.

You raise very good points here Jake on both counts.

I particularly like the:

I see it like this. If when I went to school I said fricking hell I wouldn't have been told off. If I said effing hell I probably would have done.I believe this would be an appropriate way to approach the filter avoidance issue.

3000th post woop.

[GommeInc]

Is effing really that bad? It isn't avoiding the filter either, it's using an alternative word, which is fine provided it isn't done in malice. Which it wasn't.

[dogboy123]

I think with allowing some words as not avoiding the filter will cause arguments and stretching of the rules. So I think if your going to ban one as avoiding then you have to ban others like it

[The Professor]

I've always viewed effing as avoiding the filter; Ive always edited for it when I was a mod and I've always seen it dealt with when I've reported a post. Considering f***ing is classed as avoiding the filter, and that and effing are essentially the same way, I don't see the contest tbh. I don't see it as a major ballsup from a trialist though :P

Sounds like its all good now anyway :)

[myke]

WOW, the stuck up-ness really does come through, even on a post on the forum from most of you. :S Rant over about being stuck up.

it's difficult, effing can't really be said to anyone, so doesn't really hurt anyone... it'd just make the person saying it look silly. effing is kinda like a shorter version of ******* so yh.

uhm, and about the filter being removed... bad idea.

[Accipiter]

WOW, the stuck up-ness really does come through, even on a post on the forum from most of you. :S Rant over about being stuck up.

it's difficult, effing can't really be said to anyone, so doesn't really hurt anyone... it'd just make the person saying it look silly. effing is kinda like a shorter version of ******* so yh.

uhm, and about the filter being removed... bad idea.

and why would it be a bad idea?

[Kardan]

It is actually debateable as to whether that is avoiding the filter. Fricking and fracking are allowed. I do believe Matt was going to ask nvr about this particular example. Personally I do think it goes beyond the acceptable limit.

effing should be considered as avoiding the filter. Effing is the same as putting F'ing or F***ing which is breaking the rules and warning/infractionable.

And I better not get an infraction for this post either.

[The Professor]

and why would it be a bad idea?

Swearing all over the place doesn't make the forum a nice place to be!

[Immenseman]

I see it like this. If when I went to school I said fricking hell I wouldn't have been told off. If I said effing hell I probably would have done.

In general I don't think the filter should be removed. We'd be subject to a lot more swearing which doesn't create a nice atmosphere across the board. Makes it look a very daunting place to new members if there were swear words in every other post.

Don't use Habbo as an example - that isn't a forum. On Habbo Forums, the official sulake ran one there is still a filter. On habbo you see the swear word for about 30 seconds on here you'd see it until the thread was inactive, which could be months.


and why would it be a bad idea?

quoted for truth

[xxMATTGxx]

If 'Meet the Fockers' is allowed as a movie title then I think effing and focking should be allowed... it's not hurting anyone.

Different context because anyone who would use that should be talking about the actual film. Seems to be all sorted now :)

[myke]

and why would it be a bad idea?

just because you're getting older, as are many of the forum members, it doesn't justify the reason to put swearing after every single word. there really is no need to swear...

[xxMATTGxx]

just because you're getting older, as are many of the forum members, it doesn't justify the reason to put swearing after every single word. there really is no need to swear...

Correct, swearing can make it a bad atmosphere and I hardly think swearing throughout the forum would make it a nice place. So that is why you aren't allowed.

[Kardan]

Different context because anyone who would use that should be talking about the actual film. Seems to be all sorted now :)

What's the verdict then? is effing allowed?

[xxMATTGxx]

What's the verdict then? is effing allowed?

It's not allowed unless Nvrspk comes along and says it is.

[Kardan]

It's not allowed unless Nvrspk comes along and says it is.

Good, I agree :)

[Martin]

Post has now been dealt with. Once again sorry for my error. :)

[Hecktix]

It's not allowed unless Nvrspk comes along and says it is.

thanks for that decision matthew :)

Jake's idea was right really about the school thing.

[Rixion]

Post has now been dealt with. Once again sorry for my error. :)
Cool to see you have a good attitude to the situation. :)

Can't you like add words to the filter?

[Accipiter]

add voiceover. to the filter, i wan't to sound like i've done something on the forum thats unspeakable.

[nvrspk4]

add voiceover. to the filter, i wan't to sound like i've done something on the forum thats unspeakable.

Can be arranged :D


It's not allowed unless Nvrspk comes along and says it is.

Rumor on the street is that he agrees with you.

RE: OP


NOT Allowed



Complaints about individuals - If you have a problem with a specific member of Habbox Staff, or a specific moderator, do NOT post it here. Specific complaints should be PMd to the Staff Editor (currently Sammeth.) or posted in THIS FORUM. The Feedback Forum should not be used to criticize individuals.

[Accipiter]

Can be arranged :D



Rumor on the street is that he agrees with you.

RE: OP

Yey

if you get any complaints from the radio or media forum i'll sort them out.

[nvrspk4]

Yey

if you get any complaints from the radio or media forum i'll sort them out.

I might just put a dot next to it and tell people to end their sentences differently ;)

[Kardan]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showpost.php?p=6081962&postcount=12

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That's another silly edit to add to the few I've had in the last few weeks.

[lick]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showpost.php?p=6081962&postcount=12

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That's another silly edit to add to the few I've had in the last few weeks.

omg was looking at that lol and was like.. he is on topic

but he is a trialist suppose

IMO the people who would make the best moderator are the people who are not good on the forum

[Hecktix]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showpost.php?p=6081962&postcount=12

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That's another silly edit to add to the few I've had in the last few weeks.

I saw that when I was browsing on my phone earlier and decided when I came online on the laptop i'd remove it, thanks for reminding me, I've removed the edit, a usernote didn't get posted.

He's only a trialist so we have to give them some slack, if you have any problems with edits/infractions/pms/warnings from moderators it's better to PM a Super Moderator than post in here, as of course it's only by the off chance that I saw it by reading this thread whereas if you PM us we can sort it straight away.

@ Graham, I agree, you're better at spotting spam bots than me :P

[lick]

Me and that spam bot was on first name bases ;)

[Hecktix]

Me and that spam bot was on first name bases ;)

aww graham's made a new friend in an automated spamming machine.

Don't let him replace me as your best friend though Graham :(