[TUT] From 32bit to 64bit

[AgnesIO]

I thought I would make a quick tutorial on doing this, as I am unaware of other OS's, but Windows 7 says you cannot install from 32bit to 64bit.

Anyway:

If you realised you are not using all of your RAM inserted in your pc because of this it is very simple to change from 32bit to 64bit.

What to do:


Put your 64bit disc in.
Turn off your computer
Turn the computer back on...
Go into your BIOS (When you computer turns on it normally tells you how to. On my mobo (asus) you just press 'Delete' (Del)
Now. One of the options at the top will be 'Boot'.
Use your arrow keys to move across to 'Boot'
Then using the down arrow keys once on boot go to 'Boot Priorty' (or something along those lines)
Change the boot priorty to your CD Drive - it will probably be on boot harddrive first.
Since you have done this it will now open up the OS download screen - with no 'you cannot do this' messages.
Once downloaded, take the disc out.
Turn off your computer.
Go back into the BIOS
Change the boot priorty back to harddrive.
All will now work - well done you have gone from 32 to 62 bit :)



INFORMATION: If you have spare HardDrive then you will not need to do this. Just format the HardDrive.

INFORMATION: Please be warned; formatting your HardDrive AND using the disc drive to install windows WILL wipe your HardDrive. If you have important information ALWAYS back it up.


Hopefully that will help at least one person at some point :)

Demala

[The Professor]

Eww at how you've written hard drive, it isn't a brand name with some weird formatting trademark thing :P

Probably a good tut, I don't know because I haven't tried it and aren't planning to but yknow, +rep for the effort!

[Luke]

Excuse me if I'm wrong, but I don't see this as a tutorial for: "32bit to 64bit". Its just showing how to boot from the CD isn't it.. xD

[AgnesIO]

Eww at how you've written hard drive, it isn't a brand name with some weird formatting trademark thing :P

Probably a good tut, I don't know because I haven't tried it and aren't planning to but yknow, +rep for the effort!

Haha I always think harddrive looks crappy lol :P

I wasn't planning on doing it, but then because of not being able to simply put the disc in and install 64bit to 32bit, this is a way to do it.

Another problem is if you just want to format the HDD you have to not be using it at that time. Soyou need two harddrive's so you can go on the crappy unused one, to wipe the other one :D


Excuse me if I'm wrong, but I don't see this as a tutorial for: "32bit to 64bit". Its just showing how to boot from the CD isn't it.. xD

Nope :)

Unless you have to HDD's you cannot go from 32 to 64bit (especially for windows 7) god knows why.

So sort of - but it is just giving the method of how to get round the 'you can't install this' rubbish :)

[Tomm]

Err yes you can. You just install it as a custom installation -gasp-

[AgnesIO]

Err yes you can. You just install it as a custom installation -gasp-

If you put the disk in it does not open.

[Tomm]

What are you on about? Assuming you've got the boot priority right so that it boots from the DVD then it will start the windows installation from the disc (If all the options are available is another issue) regardless of what operating system you currently have installed.


If you put the disk in it does not open.

[AgnesIO]

What are you on about? Assuming you've got the boot priority right so that it boots from the DVD then it will start the windows installation from the disc (If all the options are available is another issue) regardless of what operating system you currently have installed.


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THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT.

The TUT was all about helping users change the boot priorty etc so they CAN go from 32 to 64bit.

If you do not know how to do the boot priorty stuff then you cannot install it (unless you have two HDD's)

Jesus christ :eusa_wall

[Tomm]

You need the right boot priority to install Windows from a DVD/CD anyway, regardless of if you are going from 32bit to 64 bit or just a fresh install
The number of hard drives is irrevelent as to if you can boot from a CD/DVD as it depends on your boot sequence - you could have a million hard drives and still not be able to boot into a CD/DVD


This is just a simple tutorial on how to change your boot sequence, nothing to do with 32bit to 64bit.


-:eusa_clap-:eusa_clap-:eusa_clap-:eusa_clap-:eusa_clap-:eusa_clap-:eusa_clap-:eusa_clap-:eusa_clap-

THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT.

The TUT was all about helping users change the boot priorty etc so they CAN go from 32 to 64bit.

If you do not know how to do the boot priorty stuff then you cannot install it (unless you have two HDD's)

Jesus christ :eusa_wall

[Recursion]

But why were you saying you need two hard drives?

You boot the CD, do custom install, click the HDD, click format, press next, put the product key in, agree to the EULA, click next, reboot, Windows starts, finishes install, setup user account, then you are ready to go.

THIS is how to go 64bit and is also your tutorial in one sentence ;D

[AgnesIO]

But why were you saying you need two hard drives?

You boot the CD, do custom install, click the HDD, click format, press next, put the product key in, agree to the EULA, click next, reboot, Windows starts, finishes install, setup user account, then you are ready to go.

THIS is how to go 64bit and is also your tutorial in one sentence ;D


You need two harddrives if you want to clean your harddrive (wipe it) without doing it through the way I said.

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What don't people understand?

I was saying this is for people who do not know how to boot etc.

And Tomm you do not need to boot things in the right order to download the things.

[Tomm]

You do NOT need two hard drives.

Also YES you do need to have the right boot sequence. Lets take some examples:

1 - Hard drives
2 - CD/DVD Drive

Result: Nope, we won't even boot into the windows installation (assuming the hard drive is bootable)

1 - Hard Drive
2 - Hard Drive
3 - CD/DVD Drive

Result: Nope, we won't even boot into the windows installation (assuming either hd 1/2 is bootable)

1 - Hard Drive
2 - CD/DVD Drive
3 - Hard Drive

Result: Nope, we won't even boot into the windows installation (assuming hard drive 1 is bootable)

I could go on, but the only way you're going to get into the windows installation is if you have no bootable drives above the CD/DVD drive in the boot sequence or you have your boot sequence with the CD/DVD drive as the 1st boot device.


You need two harddrives if you want to clean your harddrive (wipe it) without doing it through the way I said.

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What don't people understand?

I was saying this is for people who do not know how to boot etc.

And Tomm you do not need to boot things in the right order to download the things.

[AgnesIO]

NO YOU DO NOT need TWO harddrives for the tut I posted. f you do it the OTHER way you need two harddrives. You read that? THE OTHER WAY. E.G (apparently sicne you need help understanding :l)


go on my computer
right click harddrive
click format
you cannot do THAT without a second harddrive, as it does not let you format it while USING it. Understand? :eusa_wall

The tut IS for people who want to go 32bit to 64bit (vista/xp/other to windows 7). I know many members will find this very simple but SOME members do not.

Happy yet? :l


You do NOT need two hard drives.

Also YES you do need to have the right boot sequence. Lets take some examples:

1 - Hard drives
2 - CD/DVD Drive

Result: Nope, we won't even boot into the windows installation (assuming the hard drive is bootable)

1 - Hard Drive
2 - Hard Drive
3 - CD/DVD Drive

Result: Nope, we won't even boot into the windows installation (assuming either hd 1/2 is bootable)

1 - Hard Drive
2 - CD/DVD Drive
3 - Hard Drive

Result: Nope, we won't even boot into the windows installation (assuming hard drive 1 is bootable)

I could go on, but the only way you're going to get into the windows installation is if you have no bootable drives above the CD/DVD drive in the boot sequence or you have your boot sequence with the CD/DVD drive as the 1st boot device.

[Tomm]

No because you don't need two hard drives for either your tutorial or what you claim to be the "other" way. The "other" way is completely pointless since you can format drives from the Windows 7 installation.

And just to make a point here are a number of ways you could format the hard drive with only that hard drive installed:

- Get a gparted live cd and burn it to a disc
- Get a gparted image and create a bootable usb drive
- Use a live CD of virtually any Linux distro and use the drive management tools in that.
- Create a live USB drive of virtually any Linux distro and use the drive management tools in that

Need I go on? Although i'd like to add that these methods are completely pointless since you can format a drive using the Windows 7 installer.

Again, you've only written a tutorial how to alter a boot sequence nothing else. Suggesting it does anything other than this is likely to confuse those members you refer to.


NO YOU DO NOT need TWO harddrives for the tut I posted. f you do it the OTHER way you need two harddrives. You read that? THE OTHER WAY. E.G (apparently sicne you need help understanding :l)


go on my computer
right click harddrive
click format
you cannot do THAT without a second harddrive, as it does not let you format it while USING it. Understand? :eusa_wall

The tut IS for people who want to go 32bit to 64bit (vista/xp/other to windows 7). I know many members will find this very simple but SOME members do not.

Happy yet? :l

[AgnesIO]

And changing the drive sequence means..

Installing the 64bit version :rolleyes:


No because you don't need two hard drives for either your tutorial or what you claim to be the "other" way. The "other" way is completely pointless since you can format drives from the Windows 7 installation.

And just to make a point here are a number of ways you could format the hard drive with only that hard drive installed:

- Get a gparted live cd and burn it to a disc
- Get a gparted image and create a bootable usb drive
- Use a live CD of virtually any Linux distro and use the drive management tools in that.
- Create a live USB drive of virtually any Linux distro and use the drive management tools in that

Need I go on? Although i'd like to add that these methods are completely pointless since you can format a drive using the Windows 7 installer.

Again, you've only written a tutorial how to alter a boot sequence nothing else. Suggesting it does anything other than this is likely to confuse those members you refer to.

[Luke]

And changing the drive sequence means..

Installing the 64bit version :rolleyes:

I'm switching from 32bit to 64bit tommorow - Ill see if I can do it from the OS, with 1 HDD.

[Tomm]

Again, no. Changing the boot sequence (or the "drive sequence" as you like to refer to it) does precisely that - changes the boot sequence. It has absolutely nothing to do with upgrading from 32bit to 64bit (apart from making sure you can boot into the windows installation).

In this case all you are doing is changing the boot sequence to boot from the CD/DVD drive - I could be doing this to boot from my Norton Ghost CD or install Windows XP 32bit.


And changing the drive sequence means..

Installing the 64bit version :rolleyes:

[Stephen!]

Wait, by changing my boot sequence I can upgrade to 64bit!?

[AgnesIO]

I'm switching from 32bit to 64bit tommorow - Ill see if I can do it from the OS, with 1 HDD.

You CAN if you change the boot sequence.

Once again I am repeating myself.

For the OTHER method you need two HDD's - the OTHER method.


Again, no. Changing the boot sequence (or the "drive sequence" as you like to refer to it) does precisely that - changes the boot sequence. It has absolutely nothing to do with upgrading from 32bit to 64bit (apart from making sure you can boot into the windows installation).

In this case all you are doing is changing the boot sequence to boot from the CD/DVD drive - I could be doing this to boot from my Norton Ghost CD or install Windows XP 32bit.

Oh sorry if I said it wrong. Guess I am not geeky enough to be perfect at everything :S


Wait, by changing my boot sequence I can upgrade to 64bit!?


No need for sarcasm!

[Recursion]

You do not need two hard drives, EVER, to install Windows, Linux, Mac OS X, Solaris, *BSD whatever other OS you can find.

[AgnesIO]

You do not need two hard drives, EVER, to install Windows, Linux, Mac OS X, Solaris, *BSD whatever other OS you can find.


Incorrect.

If you format the HDD BEFORE putting the disc in you need two harddrives.

Fact.

[Recursion]

Incorrect.

If you format the HDD BEFORE putting the disc in you need two harddrives.

Fact.

And why would you do that..? You would be installing the OS onto a secondary drive (Which to me, seems like bad practice).

I have two drives, I can't format either without losing data, I have my OS and Programs on my primary drive and then all my data on my secondary one, so this "two hard drive" theory you have fails.

P.S. It's "hard drive, HDD, hard disk drive, HD" not "harddrive".

[Flisker]

Why am I so confused about Demala's posts and what he is saying?

[AgnesIO]

And why would you do that..? You would be installing the OS onto a secondary drive (Which to me, seems like bad practice).

I have two drives, I can't format either without losing data, I have my OS and Programs on my primary drive and then all my data on my secondary one, so this "two hard drive" theory you have fails.

P.S. It's "hard drive, HDD, hard disk drive, HD" not "harddrive".

Does it bloody matter how I say hard drive? It make's no difference whatsoever :\

And I never said you will not lose date. Infact if you actually read my post you would have seen..


INFORMATION: Please be warned; formatting your HardDrive AND using the disc drive to install windows WILL wipe your HardDrive. If you have important information ALWAYS back it up.

[Flisker]

Can I also add, starting from Vista, Microsoft added this lovely feature called "Windows.old" where your documents etc are saved. So technically the Windows installation does not format your HDD (unless you tell it to).

[Tomm]

See my post before where I gave a list of a number of methods to format your only hard drive.


Incorrect.

If you format the HDD BEFORE putting the disc in you need two harddrives.

Fact.

[Luke]

Yes, but you dont you understand - your explaining this completley wrong;
You only need ONE HDD to isntall an OS, and you didn't give a tut on how to upgrade from '32bit to 64bit' (which actually you can't do, you clean install), you told people how to boot from Windows disc (which is usually done automatically anyways). From there, they can do a 'clean install' and they can also format their HDD(s), (don't need 2).

[AgnesIO]

Yes, but you dont you understand - your explaining this completley wrong;
You only need ONE HDD to isntall an OS, and you didn't give a tut on how to upgrade from '32bit to 64bit' (which actually you can't do, you clean install), you told people how to boot from Windows disc (which is usually done automatically anyways). From there, they can do a 'clean install' and they can also format their HDD(s), (don't need 2).



Not automatically done.
I KNOW YOU ONLY NEED ONE ******* HDD. UNLESS OFCOURSE YOU FORMAT THE HARDDRIVE THEN DO IT :rolleyes:
I am sorry for trying to be helpful. In future I won't use my time, to try and help. Happy now? :l

[Recursion]

Not automatically done.
I KNOW YOU ONLY NEED ONE ******* HDD. UNLESS OFCOURSE YOU FORMAT THE HARDDRIVE THEN DO IT :rolleyes:

I am sorry for trying to be helpful. In future I won't use my time, to try and help. Happy now? :l

You're right there.

But generally you don't format the hard drive from inside Windows, you load the disc up and click it then click format, no one I know has ever formatted a hard drive from within Windows unless it is for data only, it's just an added step that will take more time and more confusion.

[Luke]

Not automatically done.
I KNOW YOU ONLY NEED ONE ******* HDD. UNLESS OFCOURSE YOU FORMAT THE HARDDRIVE THEN DO IT :rolleyes:
I am sorry for trying to be helpful. In future I won't use my time, to try and help. Happy now? :l



It mostly is though, and all im trying to say is, you didn't provide a tutorial for 'upgrading', just a tutorial on how to boot from windows disc if not done automatically.

And it'd be pretty stupid, to format your HDD the way you said, when as it has been said over and over, the windows setup provides functionality to do it.

[AgnesIO]

You're right there.

But generally you don't format the hard drive from inside Windows, you load the disc up and click it then click format, no one I know has ever formatted a hard drive from within Windows unless it is for data only, it's just an added step that will take more time and more confusion.


Which when I first tried I did not know.

I only made this tut as I was unsure how to do it, and I thought I could not be the ONLY person on this forum that may have problems. :(

[Luke]

Which when I first tried I did not know.

I only made this tut as I was unsure how to do it, and I thought I could not be the ONLY person on this forum that may have problems. :(

Fair doos you tried to help..but now you know xD.

[Recursion]

Fair doos you tried to help..but now you know xD.

Seconded, we all make mistakes ;) :P

[AgnesIO]

By the way as I said earlier I do not read my posts.

And the first line in the quote did not really make sense (I see that when reading it)

I should have put another longer way of doing it - as not even I did it that way :P

[The Professor]

Meh I wish I could take back rep :( Tbh speaking condesceningly to the supernerds (love you all xxx) that have posted in this thread then coming back with "sorry I'm not geeky enough to understand what you're saying) is veeeery bad form.

[Robbie]

Meh I wish I could take back rep :( Tbh speaking condesceningly to the supernerds (love you all xxx) that have posted in this thread then coming back with "sorry I'm not geeky enough to understand what you're saying) is veeeery bad form.

Do your research next time! :P

[AgnesIO]

Meh I wish I could take back rep :( Tbh speaking condesceningly to the supernerds (love you all xxx) that have posted in this thread then coming back with "sorry I'm not geeky enough to understand what you're saying) is veeeery bad form.


Tbf alex I was not in a very good mood, as one member was winding me up - so I will say things which I may/may not mean.

And the thread is still trying to guide members, but peop[le who said I was confusing them - just wait until they read all of this thread. Then they will be confused ;)

But if you want to feel free to go and ask nvr to remove my rep? ;)

[Recursion]

Tbf alex I was not in a very good mood, as one member was winding me up - so I will say things which I may/may not mean.

And the thread is still trying to guide members, but peop[le who said I was confusing them - just wait until they read all of this thread. Then they will be confused ;)

But if you want to feel free to go and ask nvr to remove my rep? ;)

Love you xoxo

[AgnesIO]

Love you xoxo


might i point out it wasn't you? :P

[Recursion]

might i point out it wasn't you? :P
Aww, I thought it was by this thread :'(

[AgnesIO]

Aww, I thought it was by this thread :'(


Just because you have posted more than others, does not mean I hate you haha

Infact I respect you above most users in this area of the forum.