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.PureGenius
13-11-2009, 03:31 PM
Going to see it today.
How good do you think it will be?
Is anyone going to see it?
Discuss.
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Special
13-11-2009, 03:54 PM
Look OK, I would like to watch it
.PureGenius
13-11-2009, 03:57 PM
Look OK, I would like to watch it
Mhm, the trailor looks really good. They could of put all the effort into the trailor though to make you watch it, I'll see :P.
Misawa
13-11-2009, 04:03 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Roland Emmerich is a hack. He's the disaster movie equivalent of Michael Bay. All action and zero substance. The only drama is the overly long sentimental speeches that are so unrealistic and unintentionally laugh-out-loud funny, that it's totally outrageous and rediculous.
I'm not sure what's worse: 2012 actually happening, or another Roland Emmerich film.
Special
13-11-2009, 04:20 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Roland Emmerich is a hack. He's the disaster movie equivalent of Michael Bay. All action and zero substance. The only drama is the overly long sentimental speeches that are so unrealistic and unintentionally laugh-out-loud funny, that it's totally outrageous and rediculous.
I'm not sure what's worse: 2012 actually happening, or another Roland Emmerich film.
I agree with what youre saying, but, we all have different opinions. You dont seem to be considering what other people think just what you think.
Just what I think :P
Obnoxious friends of mine saw it, said it's the best film they've ever seen.
Then again they only like three things - explosions, 'fit' girls and guns.
In my opinion the only thing that is good in this movie is the special effects. But it's just pretty pictures and I wouldn't pay £10 to go and watch pretty lights and buildings smashed.
Bevvie
13-11-2009, 04:38 PM
Yeah i am going to see this next week.
I reckon it will be an interesting film. The trailer looks good.
Rixion
13-11-2009, 06:17 PM
seeing it tomorrow:)
.PureGenius
13-11-2009, 08:27 PM
Just seen it! It was amazing. The special effects were extreme. I suggest you go and see this film!
I think itl be one of those films thats gets you thinkin. Like number 23 or spiderman (yes i did want to be spiderman after i watched it :))
Misawa
13-11-2009, 09:27 PM
And, as expected, the reviews are coming in thick and fast that this is yet another shoddy Emmerich flick. Incompetent hack.
Yoshimitsui
13-11-2009, 09:43 PM
How can the film be a hack? If people like it then it's obviously wort watching, it's like food not everybody is going to love the same thing and is bound to despise certain other things. Why does it bother you so much that it's obviously going to be successful?
Mathew
13-11-2009, 09:48 PM
There looked to be too many special effects in the trailer for my liking, however I was a big fan of "The Day after Tomorrow"... might try to catch it on DVD when it comes out :P
Misawa
13-11-2009, 09:50 PM
The director is a hack. You will find that, like every Roland Emmerich disaster film that he has ever written and directed, it will be, and already has been, critically panned by the majority who see it. This is fact that you can see for yourself. Financial success has zero to do with how people feel about it.
Let's take a look at Emmerich's disaster films:
Independence Day - widely panned.
Godzilla - widely panned.
The Day After Tomorrow - widely panned.
10,000 B.C. - widely panned.
And now already has begun the critical backlash of 2012, with people having the same gripes with it as all his other disaster pictures.
The last decent film he made was The Patriot, which was not a disaster film nor written by him, nor was anything to remember.
His films are box office successes because Sony drop nuclear bombs of marketing. Most people don't even know who he is, yet still dislike what he makes.
Inseriousity.
13-11-2009, 10:01 PM
Surely there's a difference between critics and the public. I don't listen to critics before I watch them because they're not me and I may like it/hate it. When I read reviews afterwards, half the time the movies I like are the ones the critics hate and vice versa. I thought Godzilla was good (although I was young, admittedly!).
As for 2012, it looks good so I might watch it. :D
Yoshimitsui
13-11-2009, 10:12 PM
But it comes down to whether people like it, watch it and have paid to do so. Not what has happened behind the scenes. I should hope he planned it and not made it up the day before filming. It's personal opinion, and therefore nobody is right in the end as to whether it's good or not! Anybody would think your jealous.
Arron
14-11-2009, 12:25 AM
watched this film tonight. love it <3
Misawa
14-11-2009, 12:32 AM
But it comes down to whether people like it, watch it and have paid to do so. Not what has happened behind the scenes. I should hope he planned it and not made it up the day before filming. It's personal opinion, and therefore nobody is right in the end as to whether it's good or not! Anybody would think your jealous.
Do you have a clue what I've been writing?
Black_Apalachi
14-11-2009, 12:34 AM
Of course there will be people who like it, but it doesn't take away from the fact that it's pure action without even a decent script. Based on what I've seen it's just them using various modes of transport to get away from the disaster and all looks pretty predictable. Not worth watching for me.
Geraint
14-11-2009, 12:46 AM
When I saw the trailer in the cinema, it said "from the makers of independence day" so I thought it's going to be a good film, might watch it then it say "from the makers of day after tomorrow" then I realised I had better things to do like watching paint dry for instance.
.PureGenius
14-11-2009, 07:44 AM
How can the film be a hack? If people like it then it's obviously wort watching, it's like food not everybody is going to love the same thing and is bound to despise certain other things. Why does it bother you so much that it's obviously going to be successful?
Well said:D.
motojack1000
14-11-2009, 09:18 AM
its an amazing film
Gullable
14-11-2009, 02:08 PM
its a load of ******** thats not gunna happen.
just like all the other bloody end of the world films.
Rixion
14-11-2009, 04:31 PM
I went to see it today and must say it was amazing! The special effects were too real! I recommend going to see it!:)
Misawa
14-11-2009, 08:02 PM
http://community.eu.playstation.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/237i4CEA9AA2FF21CBB1/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1
Edited by invincible (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not post pointlessly.
Effects aren't everything. For crying out loud, when you start saying that the effects were 'brill' then you need to start considering really what you look for in a movie.
Effects should never be anywhere near the centre stage of any film, because then the film WILL fail. Take the prequel Star Wars movies for example. They're cult classics, but only because of the original trilogy, but the effects just try to dance around in your face.
That being said, Revenge of the Sith was pretty good.
Independence Day, Day After Tomorrow, Godzilla and now 2012 all put effects in their advertising slogans, their trailers and the films themselves. It wouldn't be as bad if there was a story or some sort of purpose to it, but it's just a never ending "oooh look".
Independence Day had Will Smith wondering where he was, Day After Tomorrow had some of the most dumb-downed science to it (so dumb-downed that it couldn't possibly exist), Godzilla was laughably bad and now 2012 will just be a CGI show. It's like going to the theatre and only seeing the smoke and sets. Sometimes they're impressive, but that's all they should be, in the background or giving atmosphere to the film.
No doubt that this film will take in gazillions of ka-ching, if only thanks to its moron audience who think Transformers is one of the best films of all time. I'm not saying any of you are morons, feel free to nitpick me and tell me I'm wrong, but I cannot stand people who think films are meant to just show off explosions and special effects. I'm sure you will disagree with me billions and then cover it up by saying "the acting and story were great".
All I can say is:
http://community.eu.playstation.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/237i4CEA9AA2FF21CBB1/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1
Black_Apalachi
15-11-2009, 05:14 AM
I'm getting the impression you guys did not intend to both use that facepalm?! Kinda funny because I haven't seen it in a long time! :P
Even if you love special effects and are happy with a film if everything about it is garbage other than the effects, can you really apply that to three hours worth of film?!
Transformers 2 was the same. It was just two and half hours or something worth of action. I was literally almost dozing off half way through because it's just boring.
This review pretty much sums up my thoughts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdcXUqrn29c
Black_Apalachi
16-11-2009, 12:32 AM
This review pretty much sums up my thoughts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdcXUqrn29c
'Sometimes they like to destroy stuff with something else that's being destroyed at the same time'. Perfect :D.
--liger--
16-11-2009, 11:56 PM
After seeing this film Saturday night I was somewhat shocked. The film was good at first but started to have a downfall at the end that just wasn't to pleasing in my terms. The plot does follow up behind it however, the world does get demolished and stuff but DOES NOT END.
As you feel the suspense building up your expectations can suddenly be crashed down by a simple rescue mission. Turns out the government had these so called 'Arks' built to save just the important people. People began to find out and were outraged so they had no choice but to let them on after being persuaded.
After everyone was rescued we learn that Africa had never gone under water and is the highest place on earth (With some masses of water on it). So the human race ends up living there and you have your 'the end.'
Frankly, I was expecting more. Maybe a little kid being alive standing there crying with just a teddy bear but surely not this.
Black_Apalachi
17-11-2009, 12:01 AM
Oh right, I wonder if there's supposed to be an irony with the whole of the human race suddenly having to live in a much poorer part of the world where there isn't even enough resources for the people who already live there, never mind the population of the whole planet.
adaym
22-11-2009, 07:51 PM
Misawa, he's not a 'hack', he's made many-a great films in the past 10 years that have grossed a hell of a lot and he's made a lot of money in the process. I'd say he's a great film director. Sucessful + rich = good director.
Misawa
22-11-2009, 07:57 PM
95 percent of people would claim that he has NEVER made a great film. It's the majority versus you. His films cost and make a lot of money because they're promoted like the second coming of Jesus. The ability to make money doesn't mean a film is by any means good. Look at any Michael Bay film.
syko2006
22-11-2009, 10:22 PM
It was amazing!
I strongly suggest that you see this film, if you already havn't! :D
Misawa
22-11-2009, 10:33 PM
And kk, yes, I have taken into account that the words in your signature are from High School Musical.
Neversoft
22-11-2009, 10:43 PM
95 percent of people would claim that he has NEVER made a great film. It's the majority versus you. His films cost and make a lot of money because they're promoted like the second coming of Jesus. The ability to make money doesn't mean a film is by any means good. Look at any Michael Bay film.
What are your views on The Island?
Misawa
22-11-2009, 10:48 PM
Great script ruined by Bay's same-old. If it had a director who wasn't seemingly hellbent on making every film the same, it could have been great.
cocaine
22-11-2009, 10:52 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Roland Emmerich is a hack. He's the disaster movie equivalent of Michael Bay. All action and zero substance. The only drama is the overly long sentimental speeches that are so unrealistic and unintentionally laugh-out-loud funny, that it's totally outrageous and rediculous.
I'm not sure what's worse: 2012 actually happening, or another Roland Emmerich film.
The director is a hack. You will find that, like every Roland Emmerich disaster film that he has ever written and directed, it will be, and already has been, critically panned by the majority who see it. This is fact that you can see for yourself. Financial success has zero to do with how people feel about it.
Let's take a look at Emmerich's disaster films:
Independence Day - widely panned.
Godzilla - widely panned.
The Day After Tomorrow - widely panned.
10,000 B.C. - widely panned.
And now already has begun the critical backlash of 2012, with people having the same gripes with it as all his other disaster pictures.
The last decent film he made was The Patriot, which was not a disaster film nor written by him, nor was anything to remember.
His films are box office successes because Sony drop nuclear bombs of marketing. Most people don't even know who he is, yet still dislike what he makes.
95 percent of people would claim that he has NEVER made a great film. It's the majority versus you. His films cost and make a lot of money because they're promoted like the second coming of Jesus. The ability to make money doesn't mean a film is by any means good. Look at any Michael Bay film.
look misawa, i know that you know your stuff and you clearly enjoy your line of work, and i respect you for that but FOR THE LOVE OF GOD can you just tell us if you'll think we'll enjoy the ******* movie!?
Misawa
22-11-2009, 10:54 PM
If you liked Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen or any Emmerich film, you'll probably like 2012.
cocaine
22-11-2009, 11:02 PM
If you liked Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen or any Emmerich film, you'll probably like 2012.
well no i havent seen it. ive seen district 9 though
Misawa
22-11-2009, 11:05 PM
If you want something which is almost 3 hours of terrific CGI special effects of explosions and tidal waves, stupid dialogue, dumb characters and no story, go see it. Put it this way - it's a turkey dressed in a tux.
cocaine
22-11-2009, 11:05 PM
you're increasingly frustrating me
Misawa
22-11-2009, 11:06 PM
Why's that?
cocaine
22-11-2009, 11:08 PM
will an average 16 year old male enjoy this film? yes or no
Misawa
22-11-2009, 11:12 PM
90 percent of its audience will dislike it, so logically I'll put you in the 90 percent.
Or.
Give me a list of your top 5 films of all time.
dirrty
22-11-2009, 11:15 PM
hopefully going to see it this week. looks alright, and i don't mind spending 10 quid to find out its crap.
Black_Apalachi
23-11-2009, 12:52 AM
well no i havent seen it. ive seen district 9 though
Did you like it? I liked it, and I can't imagine for a second that I'd like 2012 at all. So if we agree on District 9, chances are you won't like 2012! :P
Misawa
23-11-2009, 10:16 PM
By kk, I meant flux with the High School Musical signature.
adaym
23-11-2009, 10:25 PM
If you liked Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen or any Emmerich film, you'll probably like 2012.
Many people liked that film.
Judging by this thread many people like 2012. That is a great film, sir.
Rixion
23-11-2009, 10:42 PM
its good except the end is a bit of a let down. 1 family saves the world.
Misawa
23-11-2009, 10:56 PM
Many people liked that film.
Judging by this thread many people like 2012. That is a great film, sir.
A lot of people did, though it's safe to say the vast majority didn't. It's also a terrible film.
The folks in this thread have no bearing on the scale of like and dislike of 2012.
I loved it, but its very unrealistic. when the plane is flying through the gap in the ground and the cars and motorway is falling into it i was like ***???
I heard it was crap, but ill still prob end up seeing it. When i see the commericals and stuff it kinda reminds me of The day after tommorrow which i actually liked, so i guess ill have to see :P
Misawa
23-11-2009, 11:13 PM
I heard it was crap, but ill still prob end up seeing it. When i see the commericals and stuff it kinda reminds me of The day after tommorrow which i actually liked, so i guess ill have to see :P
Same director. It's pretty much the same film. Hell, I don't know what Emmerich can blow up next - he just destroyed the planet. Perhaps his next film will be about a control panel in the core of the earth that makes the planet move, and it collides with the moon which is ran by a breed of intergalatic robotic cattle who are hellbent on conjuring tsunamis and knocking town skyscrapers with their martian breath. It will be called Galaxy of Fear and it will be his masterpiece.
Same director. It's pretty much the same film. Hell, I don't know what Emmerich can blow up next - he just destroyed the planet. Perhaps his next film will be about a control panel in the core of the earth that makes the planet move, and it collides with the moon which is ran by a breed of intergalatic robotic cattle who are hellbent on conjuring tsunamis and knocking town skyscrapers with their martian breath. It will be called Galaxy of Fear and it will be his masterpiece.
I honestly had no idea, but tbh i did like the day after tommorrow although i guess the plot was sorta lacking was still decent in my opinion.
As for this galaxy of fear sounds like an award winner.
Misawa
23-11-2009, 11:22 PM
No doubt.
A lot of people did, though it's safe to say the vast majority didn't. It's also a terrible film.
The folks in this thread have no bearing on the scale of like and dislike of 2012.
because only you are allowed an opinion on films on this forum
Misawa
24-11-2009, 12:09 AM
No, but there is no denying it's a poorly made film unless you're some kind of buffoon.
People seem to think I "hate every film in existence". Yet that makes no sense since film is my passion and my job - I like a hell of a lot more films than I don't. Throw film titles at me if people need convincing. :S
i never said that you hate every film in existence. what ive been trying to get through to you over the last month or so is that your opinion is one of many, and calling people buffoons because they liked a film you clearly didnt is not really acceptable. you shouldnt argue with people just ebcause you think its poorly made. as i said a while back, the way the film is made doesnt make a film enjoyable. its where its good for the viewer.
Lost_Addict
24-11-2009, 12:19 AM
[QUOTE=Misawa;6148455]
Independence Day - widely panned.
Godzilla - widely panned.
The Day After Tomorrow - widely panned.
10,000 B.C. - widely panned.
QUOTE]
From what i know those films bar 10,000B.C were very successful this does not mean they had good reviews. I personally hate critics for this, not just for films but for games aswell. they don't go to try and enjoy a film they go deliberatley to find problems with it and this infuriates me. I'll take a game as my example GTA4 got 10/10 from allmost all reviews. yes it was a good story line and yes it was realistic but it was missing a fundlemntal part of games FUN.
Ofcource a movie needs storyline but if thats all it has then it's not enjoyable.
anyway what i'm trying to get at are the films that he has directed are very enjoyable to watch i don't care what a pompus critic that can't enjoy life thinks. go by THE GENERAL PUBLICS viw rather than someone that was born to hate.
Sorry about my rant i just thought it had to be said
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Misawa
24-11-2009, 12:21 AM
I have an extremely enjoyable life, thanks. You can't seem to understand that the VAST MAJORITY of the public despise Emmerich's films. Anyone who likes an Emmerich film is in the minority. I'm backing up what most people think about Roland. Attacking someone's life is pretty pathetic, and is usually the sign of someone without one.
Lost_Addict
24-11-2009, 12:23 AM
This wasn't a personal hit against you misawa it was critics in general.
and i believe you are wrong, everyone i have know to see those films have enjoyed that ages ranging from 8 to about 70 male and female. so i do appolagise but i have no idea where you are coming from.
Misawa
24-11-2009, 12:29 AM
This wasn't a personal hit against you misawa it was critics in general.
and i believe you are wrong, everyone i have know to see those films have enjoyed that ages ranging from 8 to about 70 male and female. so i do appolagise but i have no idea where you are coming from.
Well I'm afraid to tell you that I am not wrong. Of course people enjoy it, but it's the majority who disagree in Emmerich's case. I am talking purely in Emmeric's case here, and in Michael Bay's, who was mentioned earlier.
Go and take a look at Troll 2, it's been called the worst film ever made. While I disagree, I know it is one of the worst, poorly made, yet I still have a soft spot for it.
I am a professional critic, so it pretty much is a hit against me, isn't it.
Lost_Addict
24-11-2009, 12:32 AM
Lol sorry for that, i just don't believe they judge films correctly.
We will just agree to disagree :D
well i'm off now continue this tommoz hehe
I'm sorry but I too have never heard of people not liking his films. In any case, the publi don't tend to judge films based on the director. I wouldn't have known who the director was if it wasn't for the ad that said from the director of TDAT etc.
This forum represents the public and from what I see they liked it.
Misawa
24-11-2009, 12:45 AM
His name doesn't need to be known - it's the films.
Since about 10 people have written their opinions, they mean nothing in the grand scale of things. Have you even seen the film? I had the displeasure of doing so, and take away the special effects and it is just an array of pointless scenes. THAT is not film-making, and the majority of people agree.
Most professional film critics are film school rejects. I just happen to be both a professional film critic and a professional film-maker.
Since people keep mentioning it, I urge anyone to make a thread or comment here about constructive negativity towards Inglourious *******s, and I will happily discuss what they have to say.
His name doesn't need to be known - it's the films.
I had the displeasure of doing so, and take away the special effects and it is just an array of pointless scenes. THAT is not film-making, and the majority of people agree.
Most professional film critics are film school rejects. I just happen to be both a professional film critic and a professional film-maker.
Agree with this, film was just load of special effects.
I'm going to see Law Abiding Citizen next week, i hope its better than 2012.
Professional film critic, and professional film-maker? You must be doing well for yourself, can you link me to some of your reviews/films.
Ontario
24-11-2009, 11:08 AM
Seriously Terrible Film - 158 minutes too long.
If you have seen Independence day, Day after Tomorrow, War of the Worlds and or Deep Impact then you have already seen this film 4 times.
adaym
24-11-2009, 02:47 PM
[QUOTE=Misawa;6148455]
Independence Day - widely panned.
Godzilla - widely panned.
The Day After Tomorrow - widely panned.
10,000 B.C. - widely panned.
QUOTE]
From what i know those films bar 10,000B.C were very successful this does not mean they had good reviews. I personally hate critics for this, not just for films but for games aswell. they don't go to try and enjoy a film they go deliberatley to find problems with it and this infuriates me. I'll take a game as my main example GTA4 got 10/10 from allmost all reviews. yes it was a good story line and yes it was realistic but it was missing a fundlemntal part of games FUN.
Ofcource a movie needs storyline but if thats all it has then it's not enjoyable.
anyway what i'm trying to get at are the films that he has directed are very enjoyable to watch i don't care what a pompus critic that can't enjoy life thinks. go by THE GENERAL PUBLICS viw rather than someone that was born to hate.
Sorry about my rant i just thought it had to be said
They were all popular and successful films it's just that Misawa's jealously is seeping through. He couldn't make a better film and he knows it.
Black_Apalachi
24-11-2009, 03:07 PM
They were all popular and successful films it's just that Misawa's jealously is seeping through. He couldn't make a better film and he knows it.
Popular doesn't = better.
Misawa
24-11-2009, 03:11 PM
[QUOTE=Lost_Addict;6162186]
They were all popular and successful films it's just that Misawa's jealously is seeping through. He couldn't make a better film and he knows it.
No, sounds like your envy to be perfectly honest.
I have zero jealousy of Roland Emmerich, thank you very much. I worked on a film that is most likely going to steal the Academy Awards. I'd rather have that honour than to have directed some incredulous tripe like 2012. You couldn't be more wrong.
adaym
24-11-2009, 03:26 PM
Popular doesn't = better.
Erm, yes it does :S.
@Adzfilmaker: Fact is, my sir, that you did crap all the contribute to the film as you yourself said you're not included in the credits. Jesus, they couldn't of done the film without you. They'd just hire another stable boy to do the work that you did.
Like I said, when you make a fantastic film, I will dismiss everything I have said about you; accept that I was wrong and congratulate you. But considering that day has not been nor, probably, will it come - I will continue to bring you to reality when it comes to films. A good film will make money and a good film will be popular. Whether YOU like it or not, The Day After Tomorrow and Independance Day made a lot of money and they were both popular. WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT!
Special
24-11-2009, 03:30 PM
Just watched it
It was amazing! Must see for The day after tomorrow fans, or for any disaster fan for that matter.
Ignor the critics, they seem to hate every film.. *Cough*
Misawa
24-11-2009, 03:34 PM
Yes, they could have hired anybody, in fact it was luck that I was hired in the first place, as I have previously stated, as I was visiting the set as per an invite, but that doesn't change the fact that I am more proud of having a job of a likely Academy Award-winning film than I could ever be had I made 2012. Emmerich will never win an Oscar.
"Bring me to reality" on films? - Hah, you don't have a clue what you're talking about or seem to know who you are talking to.
I have already said that his films have been box office successes. You cannot seem to comprehend the vast difference that is box office success and critical success. And I'm not talking about professional critics, I'm talking about the public. If you had any idea of the spectrum of appreciation for any of Emmerich's films, you'd actually have said a single constructive thing in this thread, but the fact remains that you haven't, and are talking absolute drivel, I'm afraid. You are unable to win a film-related debate with me. Your futile and belligerent nonsense is pretty funny.
Epic Movie was box office king when it was released yet everybody hated it. You need a long lesson in film, but I'd fear it would last until the end of time.
Black_Apalachi
24-11-2009, 03:47 PM
Erm, yes it does :S. ...
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm no it doesn't :S:S:S:S:S:S:S:S:S:S
Good luck with life if that's your philosophy. Example of why popular doesn't = better: Nazis.
adaym
24-11-2009, 04:09 PM
Yes, they could have hired anybody, in fact it was luck that I was hired in the first place, as I have previously stated, as I was visiting the set as per an invite, but that doesn't change the fact that I am more proud of having a job of a likely Academy Award-winning film than I could ever be had I made 2012. Emmerich will never win an Oscar.
"Bring me to reality" on films? - Hah, you don't have a clue what you're talking about or seem to know who you are talking to.
I have already said that his films have been box office successes. You cannot seem to comprehend the vast difference that is box office success and critical success. And I'm not talking about professional critics, I'm talking about the public. If you had any idea of the spectrum of appreciation for any of Emmerich's films, you'd actually have said a single constructive thing in this thread, but the fact remains that you haven't, and are talking absolute drivel, I'm afraid. You are unable to win a film-related debate with me. Your futile and belligerent nonsense is pretty funny.
Epic Movie was box office king when it was released yet everybody hated it. You need a long lesson in film, but I'd fear it would last until the end of time.
I read up to the bit in bold until I gave up. *REMOVED*
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm no it doesn't :S:S:S:S:S:S:S:S:S:S
Good luck with life if that's your philosophy. Example of why popular doesn't = better: Nazis.
We're on about films here, not WW1.
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Misawa
24-11-2009, 04:11 PM
*REMOVED*
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adaym
24-11-2009, 04:14 PM
What a pathetic excuse for your blatant defeat. Go back to school, kiddy. Again, you are wrong, but you already know that. I'm a realist, thank you very much, and it seems you are the one with 100% proof mundanity in his life.
Not really, it's called a fact. That statement alone cannot be used by anyone in any situation without being those things I previously stated. Here's the demeaning nature of yourself again, I'm 18, I've finished school, thank you very much.
I'll leave it at that - want to continue? I'm more than happy to do so, but by PM and not ruining this thread on a good film.
Misawa
24-11-2009, 04:17 PM
I'd rather not waste my time - I'm busy enjoying a well-made film without dumb dialogue, CGI, bad acting and pointless scenes, but thanks for the offer.
Murrrrr,
24-11-2009, 04:20 PM
Apparently it's meant to be really good. Time will tell. :eusa_whis
Black_Apalachi
24-11-2009, 04:26 PM
... We're on about films here, not WW1.
OK I'll make it relevant. The amount of people that watch a film has no correlation to how good the film is. Think about it, you don't know what it's like until you've seen it so your decision to watch it is based on how it is marketed. Like Adam has said, this film has been very heavily marketed so it is bound to sell a lot of tickets regardless of how good it is.
Ontario
24-11-2009, 04:27 PM
*REMOVED*.
I don't know why you rise and react to their remarks. (best thing to do is ignore)
Misawa
24-11-2009, 04:32 PM
I don't stand down, I never have. Call it a fault if you like.
I'd rather not waste my time - I'm busy enjoying a well-made film without dumb dialogue, CGI, bad acting and pointless scenes, but thanks for the offer.
so what youre saying is that any film with CGI is bad... mm no.
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