BNP Candidate Assaults Asian Man whilst campaigning

[Hecktix]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8663681.stm?ls



BNP candidate and Asian men clash

A fight broke out between a British National Party parliamentary candidate and some Asian men as party members were out campaigning in east London.
The Asian men earlier swore at leader Nick Griffin and threw fruit at him and he was taken away from the scene.
The candidate for Romford, Bob Bailey, continued to campaign in Ripple Road when one of the men swore and spat at him prompting Mr Bailey to punch him.
Police were called after 1500 BST to the fight between the two groups.
'Campaign of hatred'
At the time Metropolitan Police said they were called to the incident but no-one had been arrested at the scene.
Later however, police said an 18-year-old man attended Barking police station and alleged common assault against another man.
The Barking Community Safety Unit is to look into the matter.
When asked about the fight Mr Griffin told BBC London the fight was the result of a "campaign of hatred and dehumanisation against any group of people, in this case us".
He said: "I think people have to realise that the people have spoken, this is a democratic vote and everyone has to go along with that, whether its us, our opponents or people on the streets, and if there are a few crazies or thugs on the streets I'm sure the police will deal with them quite quickly.
"The more people in the media talk this up as an issue, the more silly kids on the streets will be inclined to take the law into their hands."



And they said Gordon calling someone a bigot was bad...

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[-:Undertaker:-]

The Asian men earlier swore at leader Nick Griffin and threw fruit at him and he was taken away from the scene. The candidate for Romford, Bob Bailey, continued to campaign in Ripple Road when one of the men swore and spat at him prompting Mr Bailey to punch him. Would you tolerate people doing this to you on the street Oli?

..and going by Labours record on punch-ups, remember this?

http://dirtyden.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/prescott_punch1sky410x30911.jpg

Yes that is John Prescott you see, the Labour Deputy Prime Minister at the time punching somebody because they threw an egg at him.

[Kieran]

In all fairness if someone spat on me I'd lash out regardless if they were coloured or not. The guy was obviously looking for trouble and he got it... What can I say...

[Hecktix]

Any act of violence is wrong, the youths were intimidating the politican but the politician should have walked away, the police were already on their way.

This thread is about the BNP, Dan, not Labour and it's worth noting that John Prescott is no longer Deputy Prime Minister.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Any act of violence is wrong, the youths were intimidating the politican but the politician should have walked away, the police were already on their way.

This thread is about the BNP, Dan, not Labour and it's worth noting that John Prescott is no longer Deputy Prime Minister.

The politician most likely walked away but judging from the report, he was pestered and eventually spat on so he snapped as many would do so. John Prescott may not be Deputy Prime Minister anymore, but dont go slinging the poo around when the Labour Party have as just as bad record in that department - and especially from somebody as high up as John Prescott who incidently has been campaigning for you in this election also so it is not as though he has gone from the scene. Infact if i'm not mistaken hes still a Labour MP.

[Nemo]

The politician most likely walked away but judging from the report, he was pestered and eventually spat on so he snapped as many would do so. John Prescott may not be Deputy Prime Minister anymore, but dont go slinging the poo around when the Labour Party have as just as bad record in that department - and especially from somebody as high up as John Prescott who incidently has been campaigning for you in this election also so it is not as though he has gone from the scene. Infact if i'm not mistaken hes still a Labour MP.When did he say labour were perfect? why the hell do you have to turn every thread into ANTI-WHATEVERPARTYIHATE thread? This is about the BNP and the fact they got into a fight.


Tbh, even if i was spat on, n all of that, the night before an election, the last thing id do is lose my temper and get in a fight. Shows the sense that they have..

[Neversoft]

He's only human, stop condemning the poor man. No one being provoked and spat on is going to remain calm.

[-:Undertaker:-]

When did he say labour were perfect? why the hell do you have to turn every thread into ANTI-WHATEVERPARTYIHATE thread? This is about the BNP and the fact they got into a fight.

Tbh, even if i was spat on, n all of that, the night before an election, the last thing id do is lose my temper and get in a fight. Shows the sense that they have..

I did not say that he has said Labour are perfect and I challenge you to find me a quote where I say that - all I simply said was that you cannot go around slamming the British National Party for something like this which was provoked when your own Deputy Prime Minister, John Prescott, did the same in a less provoking situation. More to the point, just because they are the BNP doesnt mean you have to jump on the bandwagon condemning everything they do;- I mean for instance many on here would call the BNP rascist for having a whites-only policy yet the Labour Party advocates wanting all-black candidate shortlists.

In conclusion I agree with what he did because anybody would do it and I hope they hurt when they wake up in the morning.

[Nemo]

I did not say that he has said Labour are perfect and I challenge you to find me a quote where I say that - all I simply said was that you cannot go around slamming the British National Party for something like this which was provoked when your own Deputy Prime Minister, John Prescott, did the same in a less provoking situation. More to the point, just because they are the BNP doesnt mean you have to jump on the bandwagon condemning everything they do;- I mean for instance many on here would call the BNP rascist for having a whites-only policy yet the Labour Party advocates wanting all-black candidate shortlists.

In conclusion I agree with what he did because anybody would do it and I hope they hurt when they wake up in the morning.Yes, im totally jumping on the bandwagon. If you actually read what i put, you'd see my reasoning for condeming him had nothing to do with BNP, merely that this thread is about the BNP so why go off on some random direction to labour. All parties have their bad times, with MPs doing stupid things, but i am simply saying this is super-stupid as its right before the elections (not that i know when the labour thing happened), but still.

[Swearwolf]

I say go him, the little **** spat on him he deserves kicking in the face the pond life ****** (not racist, i'd say the same about anyone spitting at another)

[-:Undertaker:-]

Yes, im totally jumping on the bandwagon. If you actually read what i put, you'd see my reasoning for condeming him had nothing to do with BNP, merely that this thread is about the BNP so why go off on some random direction to labour. All parties have their bad times, with MPs doing stupid things, but i am simply saying this is super-stupid as its right before the elections (not that i know when the labour thing happened), but still.

Because if my memory serves me right, you seem to jump at the chance to slam the BNP when you see a BNP-related thread.
The direction to Labour isnt 'random' because its a very good example of how there are two sides to a coin.

[Nemo]

Because if my memory serves me right, you seem to jump at the chance to slam the BNP when you see a BNP-related thread.
The direction to Labour isnt 'random' because its a very good example of how there are two sides to a coin.
Well no actually, if a thread grabs my attention, then ill post in it, if it happens to be about BNP then ill say what i think.

And what coin is this? I have acknowledged the fact that other parties have had fights n what not, but it does stray from the fact that ITS SO CLOSE TO THE ELETIONS.


Thats the point im trying to get at here. I couldnt care less what party is was, i was just saying that it was silly because its so close the elections.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Well no actually, if a thread grabs my attention, then ill post in it, if it happens to be about BNP then ill say what i think.

And what coin is this? I have acknowledged the fact that other parties have had fights n what not, but it does stray from the fact that ITS SO CLOSE TO THE ELETIONS.

Thats the point im trying to get at here. I couldnt care less what party is was, i was just saying that it was silly because its so close the elections.

Well that 'prescott punch' was just before Labour launched its manifesto in 2001 so again, two sides to the coin. I just feel its important to bring up the opposition as to so this thread doesnt turn into another slam the BNP thread as they have done in the past when people forget how much in common the BNP actually has with the main parties concerning race issues and brawls.

[[DC]eption]

Maybe a bit daft of him, and its probably the reaction they wanted so the could cry racism.. Although i think any man would do that, to be spat on his degrading.

[Hitman]

Go BNP. ******* **** deserved it, acting like he owns the street. He spat on him - if somebody spat on me I'd beat the **** out of them, white, black, asian, green, alien, whatever they were.

I suppose this hits the headlines because it's the BNP. Not a fair shot.

Oh and those BNP fellas have some moves haha.

[Catzsy]

Well that 'prescott punch' was just before Labour launched its manifesto in 2001 so again, two sides to the coin. I just feel its important to bring up the opposition as to so this thread doesnt turn into another slam the BNP thread as they have done in the past when people forget how much in common the BNP actually has with the main parties concerning race issues and brawls.

No, Dan you only bring up Labour. John Prescott has retired and I didn't condone what he did then as I don't condone what this guy has done either. They are supposed to be public figures.

[Tintinnabulate]

Just want to confirm, did he say "how many of you are robbers"? This moron was just provoking them. And BNP say they aren't racist. ******* uneducated brainless piece of crap.

Why provoke them? Idiots.

[Hecktix]

Just want to confirm, did he say "how many of you are robbers"? This moron was just provoking them. And BNP say they aren't racist. ******* uneducated brainless piece of crap.

Why provoke them? Idiots.

I think he said HOW MANY OF US ARE THERE?

as in "how many of us are there compared for you, come on bring it on"

[Jordy]

Respectable politicians don't fight back, okay most people would react to spitting but you don't see David Cameron punching people when he got egged or Lord Mandelson getting into fights when people pour goo over him. The BNP cannot be taken seriously if they carry one like this. They may well of provoked him but he also said "How many of you are robbers?" which just adds flames to the fire. You don't see proper political parties doing this, Labour, Conservatives, Liberal Democrats or even UKIP.

His reaction was totally inappropriate for someone hoping to get elected and so was John Prescott's punch. They're equally as bad in my eyes.

[ifuseekamy]

Oh, so the BNP are still around, as backwater as ever no less.

[AlexOC]

Dirty that, spitting at him. I would of reacted the same way. Regardless their ethinc background.

[Tintinnabulate]

Dirty that, spitting at him. I would of reacted the same way. Regardless their ethinc background.

Why provoke them and make comments to piss them off? He was asking for it. Most people would react, but as a policitican he should not have. Then again, he is BNP who are brainless racist idiots.

[AlexOC]

Why provoke them and make comments to piss them off? He was asking for it. Most people would react, but as a policitican he should not have. Then again, he is BNP who are brainless racist idiots.

I am not saying he should of started saying that at the start, but it could of been settled with a little argument, no need to spit, it's disgusting.

also, how HUGE is that womans arse at the end?

[Jahova]

It was the Asian's fault.

[Tintinnabulate]

I am not saying he should of started saying that at the start, but it could of been settled with a little argument, no need to spit, it's disgusting.

also, how HUGE is that womans arse at the end?

BNP hate asians, asians hate BNP. It was expected.

[MattFr]

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[-:Undertaker:-]

Why provoke them and make comments to piss them off? He was asking for it. Most people would react, but as a policitican he should not have. Then again, he is BNP who are brainless racist idiots.

Saurav, you support the Labour Party right so lets get this straight now..
How can you consider the BNP racist when the Labour Party have a candidate shortlist policy based on race/gender?
Concerning brainless anyway, is John Prescott also brainless then?

[Tintinnabulate]

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The asians or the BNP?


Saurav, you support the Labour Party right so lets get this straight now..
How can you consider the BNP racist when the Labour Party have a candidate shortlist policy based on race/gender?
Concerning brainless anyway, is John Prescott also brainless then?


There is a vast difference between Labour's policies and BNP's policies. Your question is just ridiculous and frankly quite stupid.

And my brainless comment is at the party in general, not because he punched the Asians. I never said he is brainless because he punched them, please read my posts properly.

I suggest you have a look at this: http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=642182

[-:Undertaker:-]

There is a vast difference between Labour's policies and BNP's policies. Your question is just ridiculous and frankly quite stupid.

And my brainless comment is at the party in general, not because he punched the Asians. I never said he is brainless because he punched them, please read my posts properly.

I suggest you have a look at this: http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=642182

We are not talking about specific policies, we are talking about racial elements in policies - all of which the Labour Party, Conservative Party and the British National Party have/are considering. I do not support judging anybody on race, gender or sexuality - but dont go around slamming the BNP when the main parties are nearly just as bad when it comes to that area of politics.

[Jack.Lfc]

'How many of you are robbers'

Pmsl.

[jackass]

I'm glad he started to fight them, seeing as they were looking for a fight in the first place and certainly shouldn't of spat on him.

[Sunny.]

Wish I was there, would of put Bob Bailey in hospital.

[MattFr]

The asians or the BNP?


Asians. Should be deported straight away.

[Sunny.]

MattFr - Who's going to be there to treat the patients?

People who are currently failing school GCSE's?
Nice..

[Smits]

He says nnothing about robbers...

His words are; how many is there of us

Also, good on him, i have more respect for him for that. Im glad he took all three of them on.

Also also, it's clear they had been following and harrassing him for some time, so this does not highlight all of what happened. They walk towards him trying to intimidate him, coming right in his face. They got what they deserved.

[Nemo]

He says nnothing about robbers...

His words are; how many is there of us

Also, good on him, i have more respect for him for that. Im glad he took all three of them on.

Also also, it's clear they had been following and harrassing him for some time, so this does not highlight all of what happened. They walk towards him trying to intimidate him, coming right in his face. They got what they deserved.BNP being harrassed by coloured people, this totally is new and im sure he had never prepared for such an event...

[-:Undertaker:-]

Lets imagine the reactions of people on here if the BNP had walked upto a group of asians and spat in their faces - a very different story I imagine.

[Tintinnabulate]

Asians. Should be deported straight away.

i fully agee tbh.

[Smits]

Lets imagine the reactions of people on here if the BNP had walked upto a group of asians and spat in their faces - a very different story I imagine.

Exactly what i was thinking.

[Inseriousity.]

He's a human being and is allowed to air his views in a democratic country. Of course, people aren't going to like it and start throwing abuse and eggs and whatever because they're idiots.

However, politicians must remain professional so John Prescott and the BNP Candidate are both idiots too for letting their temper get in the way of democracy (it works both ways).

[MattFr]

He's a human being and is allowed to air his views in a democratic country. Of course, people aren't going to like it and start throwing abuse and eggs and whatever because they're idiots.

However, politicians must remain professional so John Prescott and the BNP Candidate are both idiots too for letting their temper get in the way of democracy (it works both ways).
He's human. How can you expect him just to take being spat on the face? God.

[AlexOC]

Oh yeh, he says, how many is there of us, not how many of you are robbers. hahaha!

also..

http://alexoc.com/temp/fatass.jpg

[Nemo]

Lets imagine the reactions of people on here if the BNP had walked upto a group of asians and spat in their faces - a very different story I imagine.
Yes, but the asians aren't discriminating against them, im not saying that spitting in his face was the right thing, but its a completely different situation.

[Mathew]

Oh yeh, he says, how many is there of us, not how many of you are robbers. hahaha!

also..

http://alexoc.com/temp/fatass.jpg
We were watching this video in ICT and saw this rather large bum too. Couldn't stop laughing.

I agree that Mr Bailey did the correct thing here. You just don't go up to someone and spit in their face. If you have a problem - you talk. It's their own fault for being so abbusive and not having the brain-power to understand respect.

[Tintinnabulate]

We were watching this video in ICT and saw this rather large bum too. Couldn't stop laughing.

I agree that Mr Bailey did the correct thing here. You just don't go up to someone and spit in their face. If you have a problem - you talk. It's their own fault for being so abbusive and not having the brain-power to understand respect.

How can you say the other idiot had respect? Other idiot being the BNP candidate.

[Mathew]

How can you say the other idiot had respect? Other idiot being the BNP candidate.

The BNP candidate was doing his job. He probably shouldn't have promoted in that area (common sense tells you not to, really) but he was simply persuading people to vote BNP. He wasn't physically attacking people, or spitting on them for that matter.

Surely, anyone with an ounce of intelligence would speak to the MP about their policies if they didn't agree.. not spread their germs?

[alexxxxx]

whilst a brawl wasn't necessary, he was spat at first.

[Inseriousity.]

He's human. How can you expect him just to take being spat on the face? God.

David Cameron has had eggs thrown at him, Mandelson has had green goo splattered over him and they didn't assault them and they're human too. If he's a politician, he's supposed to be as professional as possible, which he (he's not the first, won't be the last) failed to do.

[Sunny.]

David Cameron has had eggs thrown at him, Mandelson has had green goo splattered over him and they didn't assault them and they're human too. If he's a politician, he's supposed to be as professional as possible, which he (he's not the first, won't be the last) failed to do.

Amen to that

[Catzsy]

We are not talking about specific policies, we are talking about racial elements in policies - all of which the Labour Party, Conservative Party and the British National Party have/are considering. I do not support judging anybody on race, gender or sexuality - but dont go around slamming the BNP when the main parties are nearly just as bad when it comes to that area of politics.

He can if he wants and so can I. You must have said this about 30 times on the forum and I am getting tired of it. We don't tell you what to do and you have not right telling us what to do. The main parties are nothing like the BNP and if you can't see that then I feel sorry for you.

[-:Undertaker:-]

He can if he wants and so can I. You must have said this about 30 times on the forum and I am getting tired of it. We don't tell you what to do and you have not right telling us what to do. The main parties are nothing like the BNP and if you can't see that then I feel sorry for you.

Why is it that lately all you've resorted to telling us is that you have a right to an opinion and that you can post if you wish to - well.. really.. congratulations and as far as I am aware, nobody has said you or others do not have that right so please stop repeating it as its getting rather tiresome reading it whenever you get into a tight corner with somebody in this forum. Now if you want to discuss that issue regarding racial policy again then I will do so. The BNP has a racial element in policy and so does the Labour Party and Conservative Party, now i'd like somebody to tell me that why discriminating against a white man is acceptable but discriminating against a black man is not.

[Catzsy]

but dont go around slamming the BNP when the main parties are nearly just as bad when it comes to that area of politics.

Did you say this or not? This is telling other forum members what to do. We don't tell you what to do. We don't say don't keep slamming labour even though there isn't a day that goes by without you instigating a thread against them. I for one am getting fed up of this and again you sound like a broken down record and I repeat if you can't see the difference between the main Parties and then BNP then I feel sorry for you. I am prepared to repeat that 30 times too. :P

[hah]

what a hero lol

[Bun]

in two minds. from the video clip i saw mr bailey initiated it by asking them what they'd been stealing or something, i'm not sure? i don't blame him for defending himself although i'd probs spit at him too. wrongly, i know, but i can't honestly say i wouldn't lol.

[Tintinnabulate]

Did you say this or not? This is telling other forum members what to do. We don't tell you what to do. We don't say don't keep slamming labour even though there isn't a day that goes by without you instigating a thread against them. I for one am getting fed up of this and again you sound like a broken down record and I repeat if you can't see the difference between the main Parties and then BNP then I feel sorry for you. I am prepared to repeat that 30 times too. :P

Great post.


what a hero lol

Racism from you is no big surprise.

[MattFr]

Racism from you is no big surprise.
Racism? Are you completely deluded? He was spat on by a useless thug. His skin colour is completely irrelevant, the person was just a thug, I think he would be a hero doing that to anyone, regardless of race.

[AlexOC]

in two minds. from the video clip i saw mr bailey initiated it by asking them what they'd been stealing or something, i'm not sure? i don't blame him for defending himself although i'd probs spit at him too. wrongly, i know, but i can't honestly say i wouldn't lol.

'How many is there of us'

Sounds like, how many of you are robbers.

[jackass]

Racism from you is no big surprise.

Not racist in the slightest.

[Mathew]

It's no where near racism. Anyone would lash out like that if you were being spat on someone trying to square up to you.
Just watch the video with sound.. burst out laughing at the guy saying "calm down.. calm down.. whoah calm down, police are on their way" then just completely getting in the way.. LOL

[Smits]

BNP being harrassed by coloured people, this totally is new and im sure he had never prepared for such an event...

He can think how he wants and join whatever party he wants. I dislike what many people believe but i dont go following them in the street and being confrontational. He acted how most people would.

[Nemo]

He can think how he wants and join whatever party he wants. I dislike what many people believe but i dont go following them in the street and being confrontational. He acted how most people would.Well by that logic, i could be a terrorist, i could go and blow up your family. I can think how i want, i can join Al qaeda if i want, but you won't try and confront me at all? Just le tme waltz about? I call bull!

Yes its an extreme im talking about here, but thats what some people think of the BNP as





and if that didnt make sense, it did in my head, just a wee bit late.

[StefanWolves]

i have to say, when i saw it, i thought to myself, fair play, if that was me and some one, no matter what colour, spat on me, i wouldn't take it. what the BNP member did was natural instinct, anyone else would have done the same. the same can be applied for the prescott egg throwing.

[Stephen]

That video was a-*******-mazing. That other guy who was kicking the fat one on the floor is my hero tbh. I would of paid good money for tickets.

[Swastika]

decent moves by the BNP i have to say, bet those asians get ripped round their end lmao.
some BNP members got the better of the "big 'ard" lads giving it large and spitting haha.

[AlexOC]

Love it when the candidate and the other guy are just laying into that man on the floor.

Don't spit on someone, simples.

[StefanWolves]

i don't condone racism, not one bit, but that big asian lad had it coming to him to be honest.

lets face it, we all know a cocky asian who acts black and wears tracky bottoms, talking jibberish, and lets face it, we would all love to put the boot in on them.

[Stephen]

Tbh they moan about racism but I guarantee they are causing more racism by doing **** like that

[Tintinnabulate]

Not racist in the slightest.

Maybe not, but he is racist though :) very racist too.

[MattFr]

Maybe not, but he is racist though :) very racist too.

Do you think this sole, ISOLATED, incident was a racist attack on those Asians from the BNP people?

[Richie]

hahahaa what a hero

[hah]

Maybe not, but he is racist though :) very racist too.

no im not lmaorofllololslslamosl

[Stephen]

Most people are racist at some point in their life so it's pure lols calling someone racist like it's a big surprise

[Hitman]

Most people are racist at some point in their life so it's pure lols calling someone racist like it's a big surprise
I must say, some people would be shocked if they knew just how many people were racist. Lots of people don't consider themselves racist but are. A lot of people I know say they aren't racist but are, others aren't actually racist but agree with many BNP policies... it is quite surprising how people really feel on the inside.

[Richie]

I must say, some people would be shocked if they knew just how many people were racist. Lots of people don't consider themselves racist but are. A lot of people I know say they aren't racist but are, others aren't actually racist but agree with many BNP policies... it is quite surprising how people really feel on the inside.

I'm not racist, I just hate black people.


i jk na but yh theres a dif between being racist to sum1 whos black or w/e to someone whos the same race as u, obviously i wouldnt say a black joke to a black person, which as in my theory dnt make me racist.

[Stephen]

You can't help thinking racist thoughts sometimes. Like if some black guy cuts in the line or insults you what would you be thinking? :l Or a group of black people dressed like gangstas are walking down the street being rude to everyone and acting ard

OR when some asian guy spits in someones face like an animal

[Tash.]

While I don't agree with the spitting thing, that is one of my pet hates, I cannot bare spitting on other people, I see why these people were angry. Perhaps there hasn't been any stories on what this particular BNP candidate has been saying, but there have been plenty of recent stories surrounding Nick Griffin and what he has said in public about people who are not typically 'english' (or what he considers to be english at least). Having read those stories and heard what he's said, I cannot imagine i'd take kindly to a member of the BNP canvassing nearby. I wouldn't spit on anyone admittedly, but this is the kind of anger their narrowminded, backwards opinions have on people. I can bet you'd find many white people who would be willing to do something similar to a BNP candidate, because the people themselves are often vile human beings devoid of any kind of tolerance of people who are different to them.


You can't help thinking racist thoughts sometimes. Like if some black guy cuts in the line or insults you what would you be thinking? :l Or a group of black people dressed like gangstas are walking down the street being rude to everyone and acting ard

OR when some asian guy spits in someones face like an animal

If a black person cut infront of me in a queue, i'd think the same as if an elderly person pushed infront of me, or a middle aged white woman, "cheeky little..". Similarly, if I see 'gangstas' walking down the street, not all of them are black, infact the white people who try to act that way make me laugh a great deal more. So no, not everyone is racist, don't try and justify racism, it's never justified.

[Tintinnabulate]

no im not lmaorofllololslslamosl

I so wish posting MSN conversation was allowed. If I did, most, if not all, blacks and asians on this forum would probably start hating you.

Anyway, good post Tash :).

[hah]

I so wish posting MSN conversation was allowed. If I did, most, if not all, blacks and asians on this forum would probably start hating you.

Anyway, good post Tash :).

Oh cause that would bother me so much....

[Wig44.]

Great, made those three look like idiots. Before the clip they were swearing at Bailey. Good on him I say.

[Fez]

If this has already been posted then beat me up.

Hilarious.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CUHhJzDc8

[AlexOC]

"im having a conversation with ya nick!"
"no you're not its over"


lmao

[-:Undertaker:-]

While I don't agree with the spitting thing, that is one of my pet hates, I cannot bare spitting on other people, I see why these people were angry. Perhaps there hasn't been any stories on what this particular BNP candidate has been saying, but there have been plenty of recent stories surrounding Nick Griffin and what he has said in public about people who are not typically 'english' (or what he considers to be english at least). Having read those stories and heard what he's said, I cannot imagine i'd take kindly to a member of the BNP canvassing nearby. I wouldn't spit on anyone admittedly, but this is the kind of anger their narrowminded, backwards opinions have on people. I can bet you'd find many white people who would be willing to do something similar to a BNP candidate, because the people themselves are often vile human beings devoid of any kind of tolerance of people who are different to them.

If a black person cut infront of me in a queue, i'd think the same as if an elderly person pushed infront of me, or a middle aged white woman, "cheeky little..". Similarly, if I see 'gangstas' walking down the street, not all of them are black, infact the white people who try to act that way make me laugh a great deal more. So no, not everyone is racist, don't try and justify racism, it's never justified.

You mean like Gordon Browns tolerance to people who challenge him on his uncontrolled immigration policy, whom he brands as bigots just because they disagree with him? - to add to that, aren't you the one who was advocating banning the British National Party at one point?

If so, you are the intolerant one.


If this has already been posted then beat me up.

Hilarious.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CUHhJzDc8

Nick Griffin is totally right, the guy whos asking is saying 'is it ok to kick someone in the head?' while Nick Griffin keeps saying that, if you are spat on and threatend, yes it is - and to lend a phrase, I agree with Nick.

[jackass]

If this has already been posted then beat me up.

Hilarious.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CUHhJzDc8

I just wanted to kick that guy in the head that kept repeating that sentence.

[Tintinnabulate]

If this has already been posted then beat me up.

Hilarious.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CUHhJzDc8

Rofl at Griffins face at the end.

[cocaine]

to be honest i'd have done the same if someone spat on my face. i think its just cause it was a BNP candidate and an asian that spat in his face that was the main cause for attention. im sure many people in london and indeed elsewhere would have reacted the same in that situation.

[Hitman]

You go looking for trouble, expect to be hurt. In the heat of moments when there is a fight, people do what they can to 'survive' and win, which includes kicking somebody in the head...

[MattFr]

If this has already been posted then beat me up.

Hilarious.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CUHhJzDc8
The person with glasses "interviewing" Nick there is a pathetic fool.

[Fez]

I think it's hilarious because both Griffin and the reporter are just spitting pathetic responses at each other.

Two BNP candidates chased an Asian youth down a street then kicked him while he was on the ground. I know spitting in someone's face is awful, but I don't think it calls for such violence.

[Hitman]

I think it's hilarious because both Griffin and the reporter are just spitting pathetic responses at each other.

Two BNP candidates chased an Asian youth down a street then kicked him while he was on the ground. I know spitting in someone's face is awful, but I don't think it calls for such violence.
Oh and the Asian lads didn't fight back, of course not. They all got into a brawl which moved down the street slightly and the Asian lads fought back. They got what they deserved. You can see the one who spat wanted to start a fight.

Even if it was white people who spat at the BNP I am sure it would have kicked off still. Nobody likes being spat on.

[StefanWolves]

If it were white people that spat in the BNP members face there would be no fuss over it, but oh, because he's asian.... ITS RACIST!!!!

Makes me sick to the bone, maybe the Asian lads were being racist to the BNP member, y'know, by spitting in his face and asking for trouble?

[Richie]

Oh and the Asian lads didn't fight back, of course not. They all got into a brawl which moved down the street slightly and the Asian lads fought back. They got what they deserved. You can see the one who spat wanted to start a fight.

Even if it was white people who spat at the BNP I am sure it would have kicked off still. Nobody likes being spat on.

When I'm uncautioned +rep lol

If anyone spit on my face i'd do the exact same thing, it makes me lol @ some ppl 'what the bnp done was wrong' when clearly the Asian guy was in the wrong, get em out.

[Jordy]

To be honest I am still at awe any of you think a politician should respond in this way. If a Labour, Conservative, Liberal Democrat (probably even UKIP) member did this they would be no doubt be suspended. It may well be the human reaction to fight but a serious and professional politician would never do such a thing. It does not mean the BNP are racist, it means certain candidates of theirs are a joke and the party lacks any discipline or professionalism.

[Smits]

at the end of the day, people ar ejust using this incident to have another go at the BNP.

Personally, i don't like or support the BNP, but i respect there rights to freedom of speech. Also, i'm not going to lie, some of their policies i do agree with.

That being said, the asians wanted a fight, and got it. They wernt chased down the street, do you see them running? No, you see them trying to fight. As for his friends joining in. It was 3 on one, of course his friends are going to help.

If the asians friends kept out, i highly doubt any of the other BNP members would of got involved.

End.

[Fez]

Neither party (Asian lads and BNP candidates) had a right to do what they did.

[Tash.]

You mean like Gordon Browns tolerance to people who challenge him on his uncontrolled immigration policy, whom he brands as bigots just because they disagree with him? - to add to that, aren't you the one who was advocating banning the British National Party at one point?

If so, you are the intolerant one.

Nick Griffin is totally right, the guy whos asking is saying 'is it ok to kick someone in the head?' while Nick Griffin keeps saying that, if you are spat on and threatend, yes it is - and to lend a phrase, I agree with Nick.

How on earth is Gordon Brown's comment, said in private, the same as this situation and where in my post did I mention him or any other political party? I didn't so I fail to see what this has to do with the current topic. Seen as you've brought it up, I won't avoid it or i'll be hearing about it for months. Gordon was wrong for saying what he did, but I think you have to be extremely naive to believe that no other political leader has ever said something once he has finished speaking with someone like this. It's not true. All Gordon did was get caught, and I personally believe that the woman could have worded what she said better. The way she tried to ask about immigration was the typical uneducated line of "oh all these eastern europeans.." What she should have said was, "What do you plan to do to better control immigration?" She chose to go down the line of 'oh all these europeans stealing all our jobs..' and it's rubbish. He is entitled to his opinion and he had it, how was he supposed to know what he said in private was going to be broadcast?

To answer your other question, yes I was. I still would, certain opinions such as blatant racism are not allowed and i'm afraid the BNP get away with it because they are dressed up in suits and pretend to be politicians. This incident shows they are nothing like it, they cannot control their tempers and that is vital to being a successful politician. All shreds of respectabilty disappear in my mind when incidents such as this happen. If the BNP candidate was more intelligent and more in control of himself he could have used this as an opportunity to prove his twisted opinions were in some way correct and not reacted. Instead he used violence, completely out of proportion to the spitting in my mind, to get his own back. Appalling.

And finally, though I realise this last bit wasn't a reply to me, did I actually just see you condone kicking someone in the head? That is disgusting. Nobody deserves to be kicked in the head in response to them spitting on you. Yes it's vile to spit on someone, but kicking someone in the head can permanently damage them or even kill them..

[crazed]

I say go him, the little **** spat on him he deserves kicking in the face the pond life ****** (not racist, i'd say the same about anyone spitting at another)

This.


If anyone spat on me I wouldn't walk away. I'd kick their face in.

[Stephen]

How on earth is Gordon Brown's comment, said in private, the same as this situation and where in my post did I mention him or any other political party? I didn't so I fail to see what this has to do with the current topic. Seen as you've brought it up, I won't avoid it or i'll be hearing about it for months. Gordon was wrong for saying what he did, but I think you have to be extremely naive to believe that no other political leader has ever said something once he has finished speaking with someone like this. It's not true. All Gordon did was get caught, and I personally believe that the woman could have worded what she said better. The way she tried to ask about immigration was the typical uneducated line of "oh all these eastern europeans.." What she should have said was, "What do you plan to do to better control immigration?" She chose to go down the line of 'oh all these europeans stealing all our jobs..' and it's rubbish. He is entitled to his opinion and he had it, how was he supposed to know what he said in private was going to be broadcast?

To answer your other question, yes I was. I still would, certain opinions such as blatant racism are not allowed and i'm afraid the BNP get away with it because they are dressed up in suits and pretend to be politicians. This incident shows they are nothing like it, they cannot control their tempers and that is vital to being a successful politician. All shreds of respectabilty disappear in my mind when incidents such as this happen. If the BNP candidate was more intelligent and more in control of himself he could have used this as an opportunity to prove his twisted opinions were in some way correct and not reacted. Instead he used violence, completely out of proportion to the spitting in my mind, to get his own back. Appalling.

And finally, though I realise this last bit wasn't a reply to me, did I actually just see you condone kicking someone in the head? That is disgusting. Nobody deserves to be kicked in the head in response to them spitting on you. Yes it's vile to spit on someone, but kicking someone in the head can permanently damage them or even kill them..

Has anyone read this lovely story or is it just me who thinks it needs a tl;dr?

Edited by iAdam (Forum Super Moderator); Please do not post pointlessly.

[Nemo]

Has anyone read this lovely story or is it just me who thinks it needs a tl;dr?
I did.

tl;dr people can have their own opinions, but some are just blatantly wrong (racism) and shouldnt be allowed. BNP dude was dumb for reacting to violence when could have used it better if he wanted. Kicking in head = wrong. Spitting = wrong.

[Tintinnabulate]

Has anyone read this lovely story or is it just me who thinks it needs a tl;dr?

If its too long to read because you are lazy (most likely or you would read it), dont bother posting. Its disrespectful. -rep and post reported.

Good post Tash.

[Stephen]

Why would I waste time reading it when someone could easily sum it up in a sentence? And why have I been told in a -rep what tl;dr means when I'm the one who said it needs one?

and lolz report my post for asking people to sum up her post

[buttons]

what a hero lol
lol

Well by that logic, i could be a terrorist, i could go and blow up your family. I can think how i want, i can join Al qaeda if i want, but you won't try and confront me at all? Just le tme waltz about? I call bull!

Yes its an extreme im talking about here, but thats what some people think of the BNP as





and if that didnt make sense, it did in my head, just a wee bit late.
i am probably going to sound like a total idiot but to me it looks like you just want to defend the asians because they've had the same discrimination you have. there are plenty white people who i think are scum, including some bnp members, i can acknowledge when anyone is in the wrong irregardless of their race/religion and maybe people would respect your views more if you did too. have you even watched the clip? if you have then i have no idea how anyone could possibly think that spitting was deserved:S seems like some people think they're some sort of hero's sticking up for a minority and being different rofl..


You can't help thinking racist thoughts sometimes. Like if some black guy cuts in the line or insults you what would you be thinking? :l Or a group of black people dressed like gangstas are walking down the street being rude to everyone and acting ard

OR when some asian guy spits in someones face like an animal
well no you CAN help it, i'd think the exact same for a white or black person cutting in, i would use racial abuse against them just to get personal and aggravate them. i'm not racist though, just know how to cause an uproar lulz

I so wish posting MSN conversation was allowed. If I did, most, if not all, blacks and asians on this forum would probably start hating you.
wish sum1 would be kind enough to do that for me

Oh cause that would bother me so much....
RACIST!:@:@

To be honest I am still at awe any of you think a politician should respond in this way. If a Labour, Conservative, Liberal Democrat (probably even UKIP) member did this they would be no doubt be suspended. It may well be the human reaction to fight but a serious and professional politician would never do such a thing. It does not mean the BNP are racist, it means certain candidates of theirs are a joke and the party lacks any discipline or professionalism.
omg 100% agreed even if someone was beating me near death and i was a professional politican i would rather save my job than my life, you are SO right:):):)

Has anyone read this lovely story or is it just me who thinks it needs a tl;dr?
init looks like one of those posts that cries for their opinion to be heard but people get bored half way lol

If its too long to read because you are lazy (most likely or you would read it), dont bother posting. Its disrespectful. -rep and post reported.

Good post Tash.
:S well your post is rather pointless, don't see what gives you the authority to tell someone not to post.

There is a vast difference between Labour's policies and BNP's policies. Your question is just ridiculous and frankly quite stupid.
lol


good on them for sticking up for themselves. i actually luv asians but they're just jerks..

[Wig44.]

If its too long to read because you are lazy (most likely or you would read it), dont bother posting. Its disrespectful. -rep and post reported.

Good post Tash.

Both pathetic and pedantic. But on a subject like this I guess that is to be expected.

[Tintinnabulate]

Why would I waste time reading it when someone could easily sum it up in a sentence? And why have I been told in a -rep what tl;dr means when I'm the one who said it needs one?

and lolz report my post for asking people to sum up her post


Both pathetic and pedantic. But on a subject like this I guess that is to be expected.

I said it for the benefit of the doubt for the people who check it. Like I said, if you cannot be bothered reading a post, then dont bother posting and going OH NO TOO LONG :'(
I would tell you exactly what you are, but I am going to keep my clean record on this account. Most people with a brain on this forum know you are just being pathethic and childish.

[Stephen]

*REMOVED*

Edited by Bolt660 (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not be rude to other forum members.

[Dan2nd]

People always go on and on about how they are proud that Britain is a mutli-cultrial country and accepts people from any race or any religion. I am proud of those things to but I'm also proud that as a British person I am aloud to let my views be known, organisations like the BNP are aloud to have an opinion just like we are aloud to have the opposite one to theirs. I am against most of the BNP's views but think they were entitled to be in that street and from what I saw in the video the BNP member was spat on when he only asked the Asian guy to 'move on'. I'd understand if he used a racist slur or offensive name but he didn't all he was doing was reminding the local people to vote for their party.

Just because they are the BNP does not mean they are below human or deserve everything they get I wouldn't tolerate anyone spitting on me whether they were black, white, red or green.

[Stephen]

if a green person spat on me then i'd kill the alien scum. Or is that racist?

Hmm would it be racist if aliens came to earth and we were like **** you greenies? :D

[Nemo]

i am probably going to sound like a total idiot but to me it looks like you just want to defend the asians because they've had the same discrimination you have. there are plenty white people who i think are scum, including some bnp members, i can acknowledge when anyone is in the wrong irregardless of their race/religion and maybe people would respect your views more if you did too. have you even watched the clip? if you have then i have no idea how anyone could possibly think that spitting was deserved:S seems like some people think they're some sort of hero's sticking up for a minority and being different rofl..

jen, me thinks you've gotten somewhat blonder recently from that post. Anyway, to answer your reply, i actually did acknowledge what BOTH sides were wrong, and you read my post out of context, so read the whole thread, or atleast all of my posts if you're gonna criticise what im saying.

[Tintinnabulate]

if a green person spat on me then i'd kill the alien scum. Or is that racist?

Hmm would it be racist if aliens came to earth and we were like **** you greenies? :D

They are called racist because of their policies. How hard is that to understand? :S
Some people seem to speak before knowing what the hell they are on about. I guess thats what happens when people just cba reading.

[Wig44.]

I said it for the benefit of the doubt for the people who check it. Like I said, if you cannot be bothered reading a post, then dont bother posting and going OH NO TOO LONG :'(
I would tell you exactly what you are, but I am going to keep my clean record on this account. Most people with a brain on this forum know you are just being pathethic and childish.

I wouldn't think my insight was pathetic or childish. I suppose by your childish logic that means I have no brain, perhaps magic is keeping me alive?

[Tintinnabulate]

I wouldn't think my insight was pathetic or childish. I suppose by your childish logic that means I have no brain, perhaps magic is keeping me alive?

It was actually aimed at the other person.

[Stephen]

They are called racist because of their policies. How hard is that to understand? :S
Some people seem to speak before knowing what the hell they are on about. I guess thats what happens when people just cba reading.

errrr what has that got to do with saying i'd kill an alien if they spat on me

[Tintinnabulate]

errrr what has that got to do with saying i'd kill an alien if they spat on me

It has to do with "Or is that racist?"

Please read what you actually post and my reply.

[Stephen]

"They are called racist because of their policies. How hard is that to understand? :S"

WHAT-HAS-THAT-GOT-TO-DO-WITH-KILLING-ALIENS

I asked if it was racist because I was talking about green aliens and me killing them because they are aliens

[Tintinnabulate]

"They are called racist because of their policies. How hard is that to understand? :S"

WHAT-HAS-THAT-GOT-TO-DO-WITH-KILLING-ALIENS

I asked if it was racist because I was talking about green aliens and me killing them because they are aliens

"if a green person spat on me then i'd kill the alien scum. Or is that racist?"

You say kill, but he didnt kill, he just beat him up.

Your argument is fully flawed.

[Stephen]

WHAT ARGUMENT? IM TALKING ABOUT ALIENS WHICH DONT EXIST.

What the **** is this **** LOL. Seriously you're picking an argument over me talking about aliens?

[Tintinnabulate]

WHAT ARGUMENT? IM TALKING ABOUT ALIENS WHICH DONT EXIST.

What the **** is this **** LOL. Seriously you're picking an argument over me talking about aliens?

So tell me, what was the point you were trying to make with aliens?

[Stephen]

People always go on and on about how they are proud that Britain is a mutli-cultrial country and accepts people from any race or any religion. I am proud of those things to but I'm also proud that as a British person I am aloud to let my views be known, organisations like the BNP are aloud to have an opinion just like we are aloud to have the opposite one to theirs. I am against most of the BNP's views but think they were entitled to be in that street and from what I saw in the video the BNP member was spat on when he only asked the Asian guy to 'move on'. I'd understand if he used a racist slur or offensive name but he didn't all he was doing was reminding the local people to vote for their party.

Just because they are the BNP does not mean they are below human or deserve everything they get I wouldn't tolerate anyone spitting on me whether they were black, white, red or green.

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[Dan2nd]

They are called racist because of their policies. How hard is that to understand? :S
Some people seem to speak before knowing what the hell they are on about. I guess thats what happens when people just cba reading.

I know you weren't quoteing me when replying but I just wanted to say something.

I don't think most people in this thread are denying that some of their policies are racist, it's just personally I just don't understand why racisim comes into this story, as from what I saw in the video no racist remarks were made from either side.

[Tintinnabulate]

...........................

Yes 'The Master' said just because a green (and other colours) spits on a BNP member, it doesn't mean its deserved.
You repeated what he said but in different words and hinted people classed the BNP member as racist for beating up the brown person.

I said, people don't class BNP as racist for beating up the brown person, in your case "killing the green alien", they class them as racist because of their policies.


I know you weren't quoteing me when replying but I just wanted to say something.

I don't think most people in this thread are denying that some of their policies are racist, it's just personally I just don't understand why racisim comes into this story, as from what I saw in the video no racist remarks were made from either side.

I fully agree with you. The point people are raising (I think it was Jordy) is that he should not have behaved that way - especially as it was being filmed. He could have just got the asian person in more trouble by not beating him up.

However, stephenHi clearly hinted that people are saying he is racist for beating up the asian. Not many people think that, they find BNP racist only because of their policies and some comments their leader has made.

[Nemo]

I know you weren't quoteing me when replying but I just wanted to say something.

I don't think most people in this thread are denying that some of their policies are racist, it's just personally I just don't understand why racisim comes into this story, as from what I saw in the video no racist remarks were made from either side.
Well im pretty sure if first started with undertaker bringing it in because im asian and i obviously aren't allowed to comment on this story, and then other people started just being racist because they are and this is a BNP thread so its ok.

[Stephen]

I didn't hint anything. I said that if an alien spat on me that I would kill him. Then I asked if that was racist saying that I would kill a green alien for spitting on me. Had nothing to do with bnp lol...