Summer Transfer Window

[JackBuddy]

Seems like we've walked away from Seville re:Fabiano after weeks of negotaiting. We supposedly agreed a fee 3 times but they kept rising their asking price. Huntelaar has signed for Schalke too, I just hope we get Suarez... he's the only top-class striker available.

Muntari wasn't in the Inter squad and Levy has been in contact with Everton about Pienaar. Great!

[Geraint]

you've left it too late.

[JackBuddy]

you've left it too late.
Levy's hard nosed tactics haven't worked in what is currently a difficult market to work in.

[W00TZEH]

harry redknapps a wheeler dealer :lol:

[JackBuddy]

harry redknapps a wheeler dealer :lol:
No he's not.

Warning: Mildly inappropriate language


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJBsI7RAuvk&feature=player_embedded

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[Nalfar]

jack you talk utter tripe.

[JackBuddy]

jack you talk utter tripe.
Tell me who you are/were and i'll give you your assessment.

[CHA!NGANG]

Suarez said he'll only leave Ajax if they need to sell him, and they don't I think.

Plus he said he'll only leave for a team that plays 'real football', which rules out Spurs :eusa_shif

[Nalfar]

Tell me who you are/were and i'll give you your assessment.
what an immature statement to make, grow up.

everything you've said in this thread has been utter bull.

PROPER RUMOUR: HESKEY TO NEWCASTLE

[JackBuddy]

Suarez said he'll only leave Ajax if they need to sell him, and they don't I think.

Plus he said he'll only leave for a team that plays 'real football', which rules out Spurs :eusa_shif
He is available at the right price, if he said that it basically means he wants out without upsetting Ajax.

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what an immature statement to make, grow up.

everything you've said in this thread has been utter bull.

PROPER RUMOUR: HESKEY TO NEWCASTLE
lol. you're just another person on here who sits on their high horse thinking they are something else on a habbo forum. all i've been posting is stuff that has been said by the reliable itk's. not all of it comes off, most of it won't.

I can also remember your mate Minstrels making threads about how City have signed Messi.

[Nalfar]

they are not reliable jack, obviously. i don't, i just don't post **** saying stuff WILL happen.

matt has grown up since then.

[CHA!NGANG]

He is available at the right price, if he said that it basically means he wants out without upsetting Ajax.

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lol. you're just another person on here who sits on their high horse thinking they are something else on a habbo forum. all i've been posting is stuff that has been said by the reliable itk's. not all of it comes off, most of it won't.

I can also remember your mate Minstrels making threads about how City have signed Messi.

Na he actually wants to stay with Ajax and will only leave if the club need to cash in, which they might do but I can't see it happening today. I think Suarez is cup tied as well for the CL.

EDIT: To the above, what difference does it make to you. If you don't want to read it, then just skip it.

[JackBuddy]

they are not reliable jack, obviously. i don't, i just don't post **** saying stuff WILL happen.

matt has grown up since then.
i never said anything will happen.

[Nalfar]

Keane and Pav deffo to be sold this summer.


i beg to differ.

i cba going through the whole thread, there's too much **** to shovel through.

[JackBuddy]

Na he actually wants to stay with Ajax and will only leave if the club need to cash in, which they might do but I can't see it happening today. I think Suarez is cup tied as well for the CL.

EDIT: To the above, what difference does it make to you. If you don't want to read it, then just skip it.
http://fourfourtwo.com/news/england/59967/default.aspx
;) was in july though, mind.

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i beg to differ.

i cba going through the whole thread, there's too much **** to shovel through.
how long ago was that? june?

there's still a strong chance keane will go and circumstances change; like in the case of how city didn't sign benzema and ibra and ronaldinho and messi and berbatov and ronaldo....

"i've grown up since then"

[Nalfar]

2 months? lul.

matt's outburst was 2 years ago.

anyway, fabiano to spurs. he's just signed a new contract at sevilla so he's obv going to whl.

[JackBuddy]

2 months? lul.

matt's outburst was 2 years ago.

anyway, fabiano to spurs. he's just signed a new contract at sevilla so he's obv going to whl.
yeah and if you read above i said that it broke down. seriously, go back to bluemoon with the other people that are the same mental age as you.

[Nalfar]

why would i join a manchester city forum? why am i even still on this forum?

[JackBuddy]

why would i join a manchester city forum? why am i even still on this forum?
by judging your posts/attitude it looks like you'd fit in well there.

[StefanWolves]

Well this deadline day is exciting! We've signed Bent, Marcus Bent that it is.

[W00TZEH]

Marc Wilson is having a medical at stoke now. Gudjohnsen is coming up to Stoke for 'talks' too, or, to just finalise deals, have his photo taken etc.

[JackBuddy]

Marc Wilson is having a medical at stoke now. Gudjohnsen is coming up to Stoke for 'talks' too, or, to just finalise deals, have his photo taken etc.
Jenas has turned down your initial offer. We can't get rid of him, I'd drive him up to Stoke if I had to...

[Nalfar]

i like ur posts jack, just not ur transfer ones.

[JackBuddy]

i like ur posts jack, just not ur transfer ones.
I'm not gonna be drawn into having a pathetic little argument on here.

[StefanWolves]

Oofttt handbags at the ready :)

[CHA!NGANG]

I doubt we'll sign anyone but who knows.

[Minstrels]

i like ur posts jack, just not ur transfer ones.
To be honest I have to agree with this post.

Ahh deadline day, time to relax and laugh at all the mad goings on. Wonder where Robinho will end up.

[immense]

To be honest I have to agree with this post.

Ahh deadline day, time to relax and laugh at all the mad goings on. Wonder where Robinho will end up.
maybe united

[Minstrels]

maybe united
he ain't a tramp though...................heheheheehe

[Nalfar]

plymouth

[W00TZEH]

Why did the Spurs ITK not say anything about this keeper eh? wait the Spurs 'ITK'

[Minstrels]

Robinho just filmed in Milan on SSN, goodbye.

[W00TZEH]

Robinho just filmed in Milan on SSN, goodbye.
He's gone on holiday dunno what you're talking about he's already signed for Accrington.

[Jibbish]

I'm so jealous seeing all this transfer activity :(
Sidwell rejected a loan move to West Brom, great :|

[Nalfar]

hleb is better than that.

[Geraint]

transfer deadline day isn't the same without the night finish.

[luce]

Gudjohnson going to stoke looks like it which should be a boost for them and Helb to birmingham which will be cool :-)

[CHA!NGANG]

hleb is better than that.

I agree with that.

I wouldn't say no to him back at Arsenal, but we have too many of his type.

Birmingham are very lucky.

[luce]

I agree with that.

I wouldn't say no to him back at Arsenal, but we have too many of his type.

Birmingham are very lucky.

yeah but clubs will never get better and improve if players that are bigger than the club come to play for them. That's what is happening in America with Beckham Henry and the like moving over. I see it as nothing as a positive, and it's only a loan deal for now.

[CHA!NGANG]

yeah but clubs will never get better and improve if players that are bigger than the club come to play for them. That's what is happening in America with Beckham Henry and the like moving over. I see it as nothing as a positive, and it's only a loan deal for now.

Beckham and Henry going to America is completely different.... they moved to boost the reputation of the MLS, and because they've had their best years.

Hleb still has a few years at a top level left in him and could have done better then Birmingham.

[StefanWolves]

Babel > Spurs
Carlton Cole > Liverpool

[immense]

adebayor to west ham ;O

[Minstrels]

Rooney to madrid

[W00TZEH]

ye dont start posting pointless **** thanks
Gudjohnsen is having a medical at Stoke.

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[Nalfar]

fabiano to spurs

[W00TZEH]

fabiano to spurs
LOL MATE YOU'RE FUNNY YOUTH

[Minstrels]

robinho to sp..milan, done deal.

[immense]

drogba to real :O appaz been seen in madrid

on ssn now

[Nalfar]

LOL MATE YOU'RE FUNNY YOUTH
ur yunga thn me m8

[AlexOC]

robinho to milan like fatty above said

:3

hate all the idiots on facebook saying he never did anything for us..

HELLOO

******* *****

[Minstrels]

Robinho, Ibra, Pato, Buck Tooth.... mmmm when they're up for it, lol when they're not.

[StefanWolves]

Tuncay > Wolves... I wish

[CHA!NGANG]

Robinho, Ibra, Pato, Buck Tooth.... mmmm when they're up for it, lol when they're not.

It wont ever work anyway.

Robinho, Ibra and Ronaldinho don't track back at all.

It will be like having 3 Arshavins, and they have an average defence anyway.

They'll have to bench one of them, and whoever it is wont be happy. Probably be Robinho.

[W00TZEH]

It wont ever work anyway.

Robinho, Ibra and Ronaldinho don't track back at all.

It will be like having 3 Arshavins, and they have an average defence anyway.

They'll have to bench one of them, and whoever it is wont be happy. Probably be Robinho.
It would be Ronaldinho.

[CHA!NGANG]

Don't think so. Ronaldinho is back on form, not as good as he was, but he's a very good player now and used to the Milan system and works well with Pato.

[StefanWolves]

Holy **** Van Der Vaart > Spurs.

Didn't see that coming?!

[Jibbish]

bloody hell i wanted us to sign van der vaart for years :(

[CHA!NGANG]

Can't happen now can it? But yeah good signing for them, but they don't need him.

Who will he start over?

[StefanWolves]

Don't know, SSN gone all quiet on it now. More ** from them maybe?

[W00TZEH]

ner ner ner ner

Kenwyne Jones, John Walters, EIDUR GUDJOHNSEN, Jermaine Pennant and Marc Wilson!

Good transfer window for little old Stoke.

[StefanWolves]

I have a feeling the Van Der Fart deal hasn't gone through.

[Nalfar]

do u not need defenders adam? ur as bad as man city.

vdv will be loan deal if anything

[W00TZEH]

do u not need defenders adam? ur as bad as man city.

vdv will be loan deal if anything
no, we needed goals being the second lowest scorers last season. which is what we should now get.

[JackBuddy]

Why did the Spurs ITK not say anything about this keeper eh? wait the Spurs 'ITK'
because he was on trial a while ago and has been in England for a couple of weeks now. Signing a second keeper on loan is hardly a significant deal.


Can't happen now can it? But yeah good signing for them, but they don't need him.

Who will he start over?
we need creativity in midfield. could suggest 451 formation.

[CHA!NGANG]

4-5-1, but who will he replace.

Huddlestone or Modric? Both play very well for Spurs. If you play both of those, and VdV without a DM (Palacios), then it will be very risky.

Surely Modric is enough creativity.

[JackBuddy]

4-5-1, but who will he replace.

Huddlestone or Modric? Both play very well for Spurs. If you play both of those, and VdV without a DM (Palacios), then it will be very risky.

Surely Modric is enough creativity.
Modric is more of a link up player when he plays CM. We lack goals from midfield (Bale won't be on current form all season). Bale, Sandro, Lennon, Bentley, Modric, Kranjcar, Palacios, Huddlestone and Jenas give us plenty of options.

I would expect Bale to go to LB, Harry is always going on about it.

Modric - Hudd/Palacios/Sandro - VDV - Lennon as a midfield if we play 4-4-2 and Bale is at LB. That's only what I would expect. We still need a decent striker though.

We've become quite predictable playing it wide to Bale/Lennon at every opportunity and VDV will only give us more options in midfield. (assuming we sign him, anyway)

[StefanWolves]

Huddlestone would have to loose his place. Simple.

Jermaine Defoe just put on twitter that he has just heard that the deal has gone through. I don't know why or how he'd know that, but you can't get more 'ITK' than that.

[Minstrels]

Account not verified, take it with a pinch of salt.

[JackBuddy]

Account not verified, take it with a pinch of salt.

Can't spell his first name either.

afaik Bentley and Sandro are the only ones at the club who regularly update twitter:
http://twitter.com/davidbentley11

[Eoin]

any news on keano leaving spurs? is he going to newcastle? bestikas? celtic??

dont have ssn :'(

[JackBuddy]

any news on keano leaving spurs? is he going to newcastle? bestikas? celtic??

dont have ssn :'(
Scottish window is still open isn't it? So if anywhere permanently Celtic must be the only real option. Can't see it happening unless we miraculously get a striker though, Harry would be stupid if he left us with just Pav, Defoe and Crouch.

Marca saying we have signed him but it also says "In the air The two clubs at the moment, have not made the transfer official, as the documentation of the Dutchman has not arrived in time and could thwart the signing of Van der Vaart for the Spurs"

Real Madrid journo also saying deal is dead.

[Nalfar]

loan window is open next week btw.

[JackBuddy]

loan window is open next week btw.
I swear when we sold Defoe to Pompey he was loaned for 4-5 days before it was made permanent or something.

There are loopholes, remember the deadline being extended for 10 mins to allow Cole to join Chelsea? The circumstances of Benjani to City and Arshavin to Arsenal are giving me hope!!!

[Eoin]

VDV to spurs confirmed. keano to celtic next please!!

[JackBuddy]

VDV to spurs confirmed. keano to celtic next please!!
Where did you read this?

[JackBuddy]

Board meeting tomorrow morning at the FA where they will say yes, no or ask for proof that it was completed in time. I doubt they'll want Levy on their case with his lawer mates if they say no...

[Minstrels]

Board meeting tomorrow morning at the FA where they will say yes, no or ask for proof that it was completed in time. I doubt they'll want Levy on their case with his lawer mates if they say no...
I also doubt they'll want the other Premiership clubs moaning and the likes of Chelsea and Manchester City hiring the best in the world.

Childish I know but so was that last comment of yours.

[StefanWolves]

Defoe on Twitter seems to think that it's definitely gone through...

[Minstrels]

Defoe on Twitter seems to think that it's definitely gone through...
Done deal then;o)

[StefanWolves]

Sorry just read the previous page again, and I'm sure it is, the Guardian's twitter RT'd him not long back. Or was it The Sun's twitter. I can't remember!!

[Geraint]

can prem clubs loan players then?

[StefanWolves]

I still have a sneaky suspicion that the VDV deal won't go through though.

[Minstrels]

Same. I'll lol if it doesn't.

[Geraint]

as do i but we've seen plenty of transfers go to the next day but that's usually with the midnight closure.

[JackBuddy]

I also doubt they'll want the other Premiership clubs moaning and the likes of Chelsea and Manchester City hiring the best in the world.

Childish I know but so was that last comment of yours.
Yeah I was joking but other clubs have done deals past the deadline. Benjani, Cole, Arshavin etc etc. Don't see why it should be any different for anyone else.

[Nalfar]

Board meeting tomorrow morning at the FA where they will say yes, no or ask for proof that it was completed in time. I doubt they'll want Levy on their case with his lawer mates if they say no...
LMFAO!

[Minstrels]

Anyone find it funny the Spurs 'ITK' was going on about getting Micah Richards even though he was stating at the exact same time that he was happy at the club? And the other players mentioned didn't show up, instead they've got some keeper and possibly VDV, neither mentioned. I also find it funny that when Manchester City signed Yaya Toure he was known as the Barcelona reject who couldn't get a game however looking at the rubbish today it's all "Spurs wait on decision over Dutch master", "Spurs left sweating over World Cup finalist" etc. Hate that club with a passion.

[JackBuddy]

Anyone find it funny the Spurs 'ITK' was going on about getting Micah Richards even though he was stating at the exact same time that he was happy at the club? And the other players mentioned didn't show up, instead they've got some keeper and possibly VDV, neither mentioned. I also find it funny that when Manchester City signed Yaya Toure he was known as the Barcelona reject who couldn't get a game however looking at the rubbish today it's all "Spurs wait on decision over Dutch master", "Spurs left sweating over World Cup finalist" etc. Hate that club with a passion.
Here we go.

Richards was a target wasn't he? 'ITK' was right on that one months ago. Agreements were reached initially. VDV happened with about 2 hours to go and Harry said himself he wasn't on the radar. If a club want to sell a player there's not a lot they can do. As I said earlier, Pletikosa has been on trial with us for a while now. Hardly significant signing a second keeper on loan so didn't bother posting.

Why are you trying to start this argument now when yesterday you were mother hen telling everyone to calm down?

[Shockwave.2CC]

DJ Campball mite of left us for £1.5m to play for Blackpool.

But we've finally got...

http://i55.tinypic.com/2u6mes9.jpg
MARTYN WAGHORN!!
Came to us from Sunderland :)

[Minstrels]

Here we go.

Richards was a target wasn't he? 'ITK' was right on that one months ago. Agreements were reached initially. VDV happened with about 2 hours to go and Harry said himself he wasn't on the radar. If a club want to sell a player there's not a lot they can do. As I said earlier, Pletikosa has been on trial with us for a while now. Hardly significant signing a second keeper on loan so didn't bother posting.

Why are you trying to start this argument now when yesterday you were mother hen telling everyone to calm down?
I'm not trying to start an argument? If you get wound up over me pointing out that I'll get pleasure at seeing this deal fall flat on it's face then you need to ask yourself some serious questions.

[JackBuddy]

I'm not trying to start an argument? If you get wound up over me pointing out that I'll get pleasure at seeing this deal fall flat on it's face then you need to ask yourself some serious questions.
I can't tell, you get wound up and flip so easily. Just seemed like quite a sarcastic comment that's all.

[JackBuddy]

Done deal.

[Minstrels]

Tehe, win/win. Would have got to laugh at Spurs crying over a deal which collapsed but now I get to see Spurs fans creaming over VDV who has been gash since he's left Ajax (I'll await the 'Ya just bitter' comments). Also adds more smoke to the fire about 'Arry being corrupt. Febuary 2010, Manchester City told they can't sign Gaga. September 2010, Spurs told they can sign VDV. Whens his court appearance again?

[JackBuddy]

Tehe, win/win. Would have got to laugh at Spurs crying over a deal which collapsed but now I get to see Spurs fans creaming over VDV who has been gash since he's left Ajax (I'll await the 'Ya just bitter' comments). Also adds more smoke to the fire about 'Arry being corrupt. Febuary 2010, Manchester City told they can't sign Gaga. September 2010, Spurs told they can sign VDV. Whens his court appearance again?

31:27 - Rafael Van der Vaart created a goalscoring chance every 31 minutes & 27 seconds on average for Real Madrid in La Liga. Magician.

30 appearances for RM last season, 7 goals.

Benjani?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3nEKyaQYZg

I know anyone can look good in a 3 minute video, but the quality is there for all to see.

[Minstrels]

30 appearances for RM last season, 7 goals.

Benjani?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3nEKyaQYZg

I know anyone can look good in a 3 minute video, but the quality is there for all to see.
You'll find that we had parts of our paper submitted.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW1122xjm64&feature=player_embedded#!

[JackBuddy]

You'll find that we had parts of our paper submitted.
Madrid had their papers submitted and the deal was agreed before 6pm, so there's not a lot of difference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IW1122xjm64&feature=player_embedded#!
Do you just copy everything you post from BlueMoon? Madrid had their papers submitted and the deal was agreed before 6pm and parts of ours were sent, so there's not a lot of difference. Also, why would Harry be corrupt when all he does is makes a list of players which Levy then tries to buy, or in this case Levy asked if Harry was interested in the player. All he does is identifies targets doesn't deal with any of the nitty gritty. Not saying you're wrong, but if you want to develop an opinion on anything BlueMoon should be the last place you visit.

http://www.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=188362&start=60


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4MyVtKRVig


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cS2Nw6x7AI

Rubbish players.

[JackBuddy]

Madrid fans don't seem very happy about him leaving either.

http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.realmadridfans.org%2F foro%2Findex.php%3Fshowtopic%3D15220%26st%3D4240&sl=es&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8

[Nalfar]

people who base their opinions of players on youtube = LOL

[JackBuddy]

people who base their opinions of players on youtube = LOL
Look what I said under the video.


I know anyone can look good in a 3 minute video, but the quality is there for all to see.
Plus I had the stats to back myself up...

[Nalfar]

remember xisco?

vdv is class, but don't post youtube videos fgs.

[JackBuddy]

remember xisco?

vdv is class, but don't post youtube videos fgs.
I said that to back up the app/goals stats which I posted in response to Minstrels/Spuds saying that he has been gash since leaving Ajax. He's the one judging vdv by that one video and a couple of City fans on BlueMoon.

[Nalfar]

He also knows vdv is class. He's just jealous that you got him for 8m when they had to spend god knows how much it actually was on silva.

[Minstrels]

Do you just copy everything you post from BlueMoon? Madrid had their papers submitted and the deal was agreed before 6pm and parts of ours were sent, so there's not a lot of difference. Also, why would Harry be corrupt when all he does is makes a list of players which Levy then tries to buy, or in this case Levy asked if Harry was interested in the player. All he does is identifies targets doesn't deal with any of the nitty gritty. Not saying you're wrong, but if you want to develop an opinion on anything BlueMoon should be the last place you visit.

http://www.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=188362&start=60


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4MyVtKRVig


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cS2Nw6x7AI

Rubbish players.
If you must know I follow a lot of Espanyol as I see them as the Spanish equivalent to the old Manchester City. So with me watching Espanyol I probably have more of a base to stand on when judging La Liga players. VDV simply isn't that good. He's an alright player, a player I'd have as backup for my top four team or a starting player to my mid-table club but apart from that I wouldn't have him. And when I say "for my team" I base that on a La Liga or Seria A club, not a Premiership club. Why? Because he has no pace. Now pace isn't everything for certain positions. It just so happens that to be a winger or a attacking midfielder in the Premiership then you really need a bit of pace. I'll go as far as saying that Big Phil holds more pace than VDV.

As for you saying that the papers were all submitted, who am I to believe? Your Spurs ITK or the club? Both I wouldn't trust. After all, it was only a few hours ago Real Madrid released a statement saying they're baffled at the apparent bid from Bayern Munich ol' 'Arry is going on about as they hadn't received one.

So now I'm going to ask for your permission if my opinion based on VDV is allowed to stand and not brushed aside as "copied from Bluemoon" considering I've probably watched more La Liga in the whole of last season than you have in your lifetime (this isn't a dig as I appreciate other leagues aren't peoples cup of tea, simply stating a fact).

Also you make out that I copy things from Bluemoon and don't contribute? I wouldn't be so sure on that.

Oh and those YouTube videos? So what? They missed a decent chance, so what? I'm not saying he can't finish, I'm saying he hasn't got the key attributed for a winger or attacking midfielder in the Premiership for my liking.

[StefanWolves]

If you must know I follow a lot of Espanyol as I see them as the Spanish equivalent to the old Manchester City. So with me watching Espanyol I probably have more of a base to stand on when judging La Liga players. VDV simply isn't that good. He's an alright player, a player I'd have as backup for my top four team or a starting player to my mid-table club but apart from that I wouldn't have him. And when I say "for my team" I base that on a La Liga or Seria A club, not a Premiership club. Why? Because he has no pace. Now pace isn't everything for certain positions. It just so happens that to be a winger or a attacking midfielder in the Premiership then you really need a bit of pace. I'll go as far as saying that Big Phil holds more pace than VDV.

As for you saying that the papers were all submitted, who am I to believe? Your Spurs ITK or the club? Both I wouldn't trust. After all, it was only a few hours ago Real Madrid released a statement saying they're baffled at the apparent bid from Bayern Munich ol' 'Arry is going on about as they hadn't received one.

So now I'm going to ask for your permission if my opinion based on VDV is allowed to stand and not brushed aside as "copied from Bluemoon" considering I've probably watched more La Liga in the whole of last season than you have in your lifetime (this isn't a dig as I appreciate other leagues aren't peoples cup of tea, simply stating a fact).

Also you make out that I copy things from Bluemoon and don't contribute? I wouldn't be so sure on that.

Oh and those YouTube videos? So what? They missed a decent chance, so what? I'm not saying he can't finish, I'm saying he hasn't got the key attributed for a winger or attacking midfielder in the Premiership for my liking.

Your long replies ooze of jealousy.

Milner 27m
VDV 8m

I know who I'd have, and i think everyone else would too.

[Minstrels]

Your long replies ooze of jealousy.

Milner 27m
VDV 8m

I know who I'd have, and i think everyone else would too.
Indeed, I'd rather have a CM/DM who will run around and keep things moving in the middle of the park than a attacking midfielder with little or no pace. Besides, VDV is gash. You do realise this bid from Bayern Munich was made up right? No big clubs wanted him, ask yourself why.

[JackBuddy]

If you must know I follow a lot of Espanyol as I see them as the Spanish equivalent to the old Manchester City. So with me watching Espanyol I probably have more of a base to stand on when judging La Liga players. VDV simply isn't that good. He's an alright player, a player I'd have as backup for my top four team or a starting player to my mid-table club but apart from that I wouldn't have him. And when I say "for my team" I base that on a La Liga or Seria A club, not a Premiership club. Why? Because he has no pace. Now pace isn't everything for certain positions. It just so happens that to be a winger or a attacking midfielder in the Premiership then you really need a bit of pace. I'll go as far as saying that Big Phil holds more pace than VDV.

As for you saying that the papers were all submitted, who am I to believe? Your Spurs ITK or the club? Both I wouldn't trust. After all, it was only a few hours ago Real Madrid released a statement saying they're baffled at the apparent bid from Bayern Munich ol' 'Arry is going on about as they hadn't received one.

So now I'm going to ask for your permission if my opinion based on VDV is allowed to stand and not brushed aside as "copied from Bluemoon" considering I've probably watched more La Liga in the whole of last season than you have in your lifetime (this isn't a dig as I appreciate other leagues aren't peoples cup of tea, simply stating a fact).

Also you make out that I copy things from Bluemoon and don't contribute? I wouldn't be so sure on that.

Oh and those YouTube videos? So what? They missed a decent chance, so what? I'm not saying he can't finish, I'm saying he hasn't got the key attributed for a winger or attacking midfielder in the Premiership for my liking.
Fair enough you've got your own opinion but I posted merely to prove that he wasn't 'gash', as you put it. That video of you posted was pointless- most footballers have the occasional blunder. Even still, he has to be half decent if RM fans are annoyed that he has left (even when they have 3 other players in the same position) Btw, you said he was good at Ajax, how do you know that? I suppose it's just like me saying he was good at RM?

[Minstrels]

Fair enough you've got your own opinion but I posted merely to prove that he wasn't 'gash', as you put it. That video of you posted was pointless- most footballers have the occasional blunder. Even still, he has to be half decent if RM fans are annoyed that he has left (even when they have 3 other players in the same position) Btw, you said he was good at Ajax, how do you know that? I suppose it's just like me saying he was good at RM?
No, I posted it to prove his lack of pace.

I think it's common knowledge he was 'good' at Ajax because of the quality of that league...

[JackBuddy]

No, I posted it to prove his lack of pace.

I think it's common knowledge he was 'good' at Ajax because of the quality of that league...

Edin Dzeko lacks pace yet he's one of the hottest properties in Europe. I'm not devaluing your opinion or saying that vdv will be a world beater but I don't think he is half as bad as you are making out. The posts on the RM forum tell me that he will be missed by the fans and must have had some sort of success there. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree though.

[Nalfar]

So with me watching Espanyol I probably have more of a base to stand on when judging La Liga players.
LOL WUT?

I watch a **** load of European/South American football. I mean a **** load. England, Spain, Italy, Portugal, Russia, Germany, Poland, Mexico, USA, Brazil, Argentina + whatever else happens to be live that day. I know a lot about football. So I believe my opinion is of equal value if not more than yours. All this is irrelevant though.

VdV is a good player. Not great, good. He was great at HSV but that's because they're a small club in what was a small league. Big money transfer = high expectation = pressure = failure. He's still a good player though, and £8m is a steal. Whether he'll cut it in the EPL? Who knows. He's got about as much chance as David Silva has.

Viva espana.

[Minstrels]

Edin Dzeko lacks pace yet he's one of the hottest properties in Europe. I'm not devaluing your opinion or saying that vdv will be a world beater but I don't think he is half as bad as you are making out. The posts on the RM forum tell me that he will be missed by the fans and must have had some sort of success there. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree though.
That'll be because Dzeko is a target man and doesn't run around the midfield... although I'm sure he does have some pace, then again I don't watch the Bundesliga that often, more of a check up.


LOL WUT?

I watch a **** load of European/South American football. I mean a **** load. England, Spain, Italy, Portugal, Russia, Germany, Poland, Mexico, USA, Brazil, Argentina + whatever else happens to be live that day. I know a lot about football. So I believe my opinion is of equal value if not more than yours. All this is irrelevant though.

VdV is a good player. Not great, good. He was great at HSV but that's because they're a small club in what was a small league. Big money transfer = high expectation = pressure = failure. He's still a good player though, and £8m is a steal. Whether he'll cut it in the EPL? Who knows. He's got about as much chance as David Silva has.

Viva espana.
Hm? It's the truth. If you watch a league eagerly you'll know more about the players than someone who watches them on the odd occasion in the Champions League or goes off hearsay. For instance you'll know more about the Championship considering you follow Doncaster.

The difference is Silva has pace, this is an advantage which VDV doesn't have. It's not his fault, it's just the way he is. I know I'd prefer Ozil at around the same price.

[Nalfar]

I follow football Matthew. I know more than you think.

I watch matches from those leagues week in week out.

The fastest football player in the world is Odonkor. See the point? Silva and VDV are good players. Difference is, I've watched Silva play in the EPL and he needs to toughen up. I'm yet to have an opinion on VDV in the EPL.

[Minstrels]

I follow football Matthew. I know more than you think.

I watch matches from those leagues week in week out.

The fastest football player in the world is Odonkor. See the point? Silva and VDV are good players. Difference is, I've watched Silva play in the EPL and he needs to toughen up. I'm yet to have an opinion on VDV in the EPL.

VDV won't have a problem with the muscular side.

[CHA!NGANG]

Are you using his pace as an arguement?

Fabregas and Lampard aren't exactly quick yet they're the two of best midfielders in the PL along with Essien and Gerrard, who aren't rapid either.

[Minstrels]

We'll see come the end of the season.

[StefanWolves]

Indeed, I'd rather have a CM/DM who will run around and keep things moving in the middle of the park than a attacking midfielder with little or no pace. Besides, VDV is gash. You do realise this bid from Bayern Munich was made up right? No big clubs wanted him, ask yourself why.

Fabregas isn't that fastest, arteta isn't the fastest, Gerrard isn't the fastest, and they don't call Lampard 'fat Lampard' for nothing.

Pace isn't everything, especially at CAM.