David Laws Resigns

[Jordy]

Just been confirmed he's going to resign over the expenses issues with his partner. Complete farce if you ask me, all of Cameron's cabinet (and Browns) have expenses issues, if he has to resign so should all of they.

Will post a link later when news sites have the story up.

Edit: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10191524.stm

[-:Undertaker:-]

all of Cameron's cabinet (and Browns) have expenses issues, if he has to resign so should all of they.

Bring it on is all I can say.

[Jordy]

This is a right mess, if it weakens this coalition I suppose it's a good thing though.

It doesn't even seem like he was out to rob the tax payer, he's a millionaire and seemed to be doing it to hide his sexuality but I need to look into it a bit more to reach a decent conclusion.

[Frodo13.]

This is a right mess, if it weakens this coalition I suppose it's a good thing though.

It doesn't even seem like he was out to rob the tax payer, he's a millionaire and seemed to be doing it to hide his sexuality but I need to look into it a bit more to reach a decent conclusion.


Of course he was out to rob the tax payer. If he wasn't he would of just payed the rent out of his millions. Shame on him.

[kuzkasate]

more importantly, hes gay?

only just found out. anyway, rumours spread that he paid £40k to his "gay lover" as I read on a website, thats why he resigned.

[Nixt]

more importantly, hes gay?

only just found out. anyway, rumours spread that he paid £40k to his "gay lover" as I read on a website, thats why he resigned.

That has been mentioned above :p. He claimed he used the claimed money so as to hide his sexuality.

[kuzkasate]

That has been mentioned above :p. He claimed he used the claimed money so as to hide his sexuality.

Well in that case I think hes a ****. If your gay, admit it. Why hide it and look like a daft ****. People are gonna find out some day? Really do hate people like that, tryna pretend something they're not.

[MrPinkPanther]

I like David Laws.

[Nixt]

Well in that case I think hes a ****. If your gay, admit it. Why hide it and look like a daft ****. People are gonna find out some day? Really do hate people like that, tryna pretend something they're not.

I agree, to an extent. Things would have been much better if he had come out from the beginning. Equally though, having been through that situation myself, I recognise how difficult it is and that is even more applicable to someone in his position.

[Tintinnabulate]

Not long in the job then...

[MrPinkPanther]

Well in that case I think hes a ****. If your gay, admit it. Why hide it and look like a daft ****. People are gonna find out some day? Really do hate people like that, tryna pretend something they're not.

What right do you have to judge? A personal life should be just that, personal. Coming out isn't an easy thing for most people, especially one in the public eye. If he wants to keep it private then I totally respect him for that.

[kuzkasate]

I agree, to an extent. Things would have been much better if he had come out from the beginning. Equally though, having been through that situation myself, I recognise how difficult it is and that is even more applicable to someone in his position.
Yes but your probably not as old as him, and he should of been mature enough to do that.


What right do you have to judge? A personal life should be just that, personal. Coming out isn't an easy thing for most people, especially one in the public eye. If he wants to keep it private then I totally respect him for that.
I respect the fact he didn't want to come, out by why try hide it?! Do you think he found out he was gay last week? No ofc not. He was probably gay all his life but was ignorant and decided to ignore it. Hes 44, surely he would of been mature enough to say "Hey, yes I tried to keep it secret, but now its out, I want to admit I am gay." No, he decided to try wriggle himself out of it by hiding it and paying his partner.

And the part about judging, everyone judges everyone, its natural. It may not be right, but everyone does.

[MrPinkPanther]

I respect the fact he didn't want to come, out by why try hide it?! Do you think he found out he was gay last week? No ofc not. He was probably gay all his life but was ignorant and decided to ignore it. Hes 44, surely he would of been mature enough to say "Hey, yes I tried to keep it secret, but now its out, I want to admit I am gay." No, he decided to try wriggle himself out of it by hiding it and paying his partner.

And the part about judging, everyone judges everyone, its natural. It may not be right, but everyone does.
I'm sure he was gay all of his life but people come out when they are ready, for some people it could be 18, for others it could be 44. But at the end of the day it's his choice. He didn't try to wriggle himself out of it once the Telegraph found out, I believe (I could be wrong) that they promised not to disclose his sexuality but he came out with it anyway.

I don't see a problem with him keeping his sexuality secret.

[kuzkasate]

I'm sure he was gay all of his life but people come out when they are ready, for some people it could be 18, for others it could be 44. But at the end of the day it's his choice. He didn't try to wriggle himself out of it once the Telegraph found out, I believe (I could be wrong) that they promised not to disclose his sexuality but he came out with it anyway.

I don't see a problem with him keeping his sexuality secret.

Keeping it secret is one thing. Pretending your not is another. I dont find a problem with people who keep it secret, but I do have a problem however with the people that pretend they are not gay, despite being gay.

[MrPinkPanther]

Keeping it secret is one thing. Pretending your not is another. I dont find a problem with people who keep it secret, but I do have a problem however with the people that pretend they are not gay, despite being gay.

Whats the difference? To keep something secret you have to pretend its not true.

He clearly knew he was gay hence he had a partner, but he obviously thought that because of external pressures he wasn't ready to come out. Fair play to him I say.

[kuzkasate]

Whats the difference? To keep something secret you have to pretend its not true.

He clearly knew he was gay hence he had a partner, but he obviously thought that because of external pressures he wasn't ready to come out. Fair play to him I say.

There is a big difference. To keep secret, is to admit it but not tell anyone, or a selected few people.

To who pretend they are not, try avoid it and ignore the fact they are attracted to the same gender and say to themselves "nope im not gay." when they clearly are.

Anyway, if you get told a secret and get told not to tell anyone, you dont pretend its not true? You just dont tell anyone?

[MrPinkPanther]

To who pretend they are not, try avoid it and ignore the fact they are attracted to the same gender and say to themselves "nope im not gay." when they clearly are.
Exactly. But he didn't do that...He'd been going out with this guy for years....



Anyway, if you get told a secret and get told not to tell anyone, you dont pretend its not true? You just dont tell anyone?
Which is exactly what he did?

[kuzkasate]

Exactly. But he didn't do that...He'd been going out with this guy for years....


Which is exactly what he did?
Yes and your point is? I said thats exactly what he did and its his right to do that.. but once everyone found out, tryna clear it up and carry on like your not gay, is wrong. Especially paying your partner £40k.

[MrPinkPanther]

but once everyone found out, tryna clear it up and carry on like your not gay, is wrong. Especially paying your partner £40k.

Firstly he admitted he was gay, not the telegraph, and secondly he is still gay?

[-:Undertaker:-]

I'm sure he was gay all of his life but people come out when they are ready, for some people it could be 18, for others it could be 44. But at the end of the day it's his choice. He didn't try to wriggle himself out of it once the Telegraph found out, I believe (I could be wrong) that they promised not to disclose his sexuality but he came out with it anyway.

I don't see a problem with him keeping his sexuality secret.

I do if it involves milking the taxpayer.

[MrPinkPanther]

I do if it involves milking the taxpayer.

Oh no don't get me wrong I totally agree, that was wrong in every way. But we are talking purely in sexuality terms here.

[Inseriousity.]

I respect the fact he didn't want to come, out by why try hide it?! Do you think he found out he was gay last week? No ofc not. He was probably gay all his life but was ignorant and decided to ignore it. Hes 44, surely he would of been mature enough to say "Hey, yes I tried to keep it secret, but now its out, I want to admit I am gay." No, he decided to try wriggle himself out of it by hiding it and paying his partner.

As he's 44, he was born in a different generation and one that was not so open to homosexuality as it is now. He's probably just aware of those previous stigmas etc that stopped him from coming out.

At least he had the decency to resign rather than carry on like a few MPs I know in my area... grrr!