England vs. Germany

[Arron]

Sunday, 3:00pm kick off is it?

A big big game. Germany have played exceptionally well in the group stages where as we have played... poor.

What happens Sunday? Do we turn up our game and stun the Germans? They look quite hard to beat.

The pundits over on ITV say they are beatable (as they've lost a match already)

We have the players and coach to pull it off.

Poll added on members request ~ Bolt660

[Deak]

Sunday, 3:00pm kick off is it?

A big big game. Germany have played exceptionally well in the group stages where as we have played... poor.

What happens Sunday? Do weturn up our game and stun the Germans? They look quite hard to beat.

Yep its sunday @ 3pm.

Bring em on, lets see what happens on the day, realistically i can see the england players and staff returning home on monday... *hope im wrong*

[W00TZEH]

Germany have not failed to make the Quarter Finals since 1936.

Easy Peasy.

[Browney]

Sunday, 3:00pm kick off is it?

A big big game. Germany have played exceptionally well in the group stages where as we have played... poor.

What happens Sunday? Do we turn up our game and stun the Germans? They look quite hard to beat.

The pundits over on ITV say they are beatable (as they've lost a match already)

We have the players and coach to pull it off.

Have they looked exceptional? Lost to Serbia, made it a close run thing vs Ghana. The Ghana game could've been any score at all.

[MrPinkPanther]

it'll be tense because it means so much to the English or even British population and i do think (All things remaining the same) Germany will probably win

[Gibs960]

I reckon if we play our cards right we have a good chance, hopefully Capello will play a good side :)

[PaulMacC]

This world cup is working out like WW2 - France have forfeited, the USA turned up late, and England are left to fight the Germans!

[CHA!NGANG]

Have they looked exceptional? Lost to Serbia, made it a close run thing vs Ghana. The Ghana game could've been any score at all.

The loss to Serbia is really deciving. They had 10 men and still pressed really really well. They dominated even with 10 men really. Not to mention the ref was appauling.

The Ghana game yes I agree.

Germanys only weakness this time is a lack of experience, and against England, that could show.

[Neversoft]

This world cup is working out like WW2 - France have forfeited, the USA turned up late, and England are left to fight the Germans!

...and everyone is waiting for Japan's surrender while they somehow manage to hang on.

[cocaine]

we're ******.

[MrPinkPanther]

we're ******.
It's ok. We won the war.

[JackBuddy]

Their defence is dodgy, as is their goalkeeper. Few individual talents but they seem to play well as a team. Will Klose be back?

[CHA!NGANG]

Their defence is dodgy, as is their goalkeeper. Few individual talents but they seem to play well as a team. Will Klose be back?

As I said in the other thread, their defence isn't bad. They have two top class players, and two average players. Both average ones are on the left so we need to do something about that.

There keeper is top class, definently not dodgy. He's one of the best German keepers for a long time and he's not even the number 1. Oh and he should be yea.

Apart from Lahm, they don't have any world class players but they have a few solid ones that are good. They are too young imo, and if it becomes a tense and high pressure game then I think they'll crumble under it. Muller, Ozil, Khedira and Badstuber are all very inexperienced.

[ecstasy]

pentalties for the loss

[JackBuddy]

As I said in the other thread, their defence isn't bad. They have two top class players, and two average players. Both average ones are on the left so we need to do something about that.

There keeper is top class, definently not dodgy. He's one of the best German keepers for a long time and he's not even the number 1. Oh and he should be yea.

Apart from Lahm, they don't have any world class players but they have a few solid ones that are good. They are too young imo, and if it becomes a tense and high pressure game then I think they'll crumble under it. Muller, Ozil, Khedira and Badstuber are all very inexperienced.
They've been caught out quite a few times in all of the games and are lucky to have got away with it. Everytime I've seen their GK this WC he's been caught in no-mans land and flapped a few balls.

That's only a judgement on 3 games though.

[Eckuii]

Klose won't be out. He got 2 yellow cards which means only a 1 match ban. The problem with German teams is that they don't look very good on a team sheet and don't really have world class players. But the play as a team and have such a massive winning mentality. It will undoubtfully be a hard game.

[Arron]

i should've created a Poll.
i want as many people to vote whether England will win or lose on Sunday, because I, cannot call it.
CHA!NGANG is right, they are inexperienced, but a really good side. Are they good enough to tackle our back 5? Our two centre backs today did tremendous (Upson and Terry), they may not have had that much to do but they blocked everything in their path, so did Johnson in that matter. James proved to be good, tactically as well. He had a quiet-ish game but he did pull of some convincing and brave saves, plus he's got safe hands..

Can we do it is the question..

Can we HxF?

[AlexOC]

Argh, it really annoys me how people are so pessimistic about this game. I could heard people in other gardens saying **** like 'oh thats it we're out', its like atleast back your country and want to win, right?

Also, i don't even think Germany are that tough, they are way overrated, If Fabio gets it right we can easily beat them.

[Martin]

i should've created a Poll.
i want as many people to vote whether England will win or lose on Sunday, because I, cannot call it.
CHA!NGANG is right, they are inexperienced, but a really good side. Are they good enough to tackle our back 5? Our two centre backs today did tremendous (Upson and Terry), they may not have had that much to do but they blocked everything in their path, so did Johnson in that matter. James proved to be good, tactically as well. He had a quiet-ish game but he did pull of some convincing and brave saves, plus he's got safe hands..

Can we do it is the question..

Can we HxF?


Done for you <3

I think it will be a very tense match indeed (The three so far have already been quite nerve wracking enough for some).

Germany always have a reputation of being one of the best, but with a good team, and a clear vision of winning, I think England could do it.

[crazed]

I'd like England to win, but if we don't then... I guess I'd be fine with it. We haven't really tried hard but this needs to be it. If we go out we need to go out fighting :)

[StefanWolves]

Knowing our luck, we will play our best of the whole tournament, and will actually start to look like were capable of winning it, and we will loose to a lucky German goal/on penalties.

Hope we go through though.

[brandon]

I think Germany will win 2-0. Hope to be proved wrong.

[Arron]

thanks for adding on the Poll Bolt :)
Stefan, I agree, but i dont want to.
yeah i think england can pull it off and make history by knocking Germany out of the last 16.

[ihatehash]

You know whats going to happen. Now that England scraped through they will now be unbeatable and go on to win the world cup.

[Shar]

I think Germany have a better chance of winning, but you never know when England will up their game :)

[CHA!NGANG]

Lol, Germany only have 8 players over the age of 25 in the squad, and Bastian who is one of the most experienced players in the squad is a major doubt for the game and might be replaced with Toni Kroos who is 20.

[scottish]

Wheres the "You will lose :)" option

[Arron]

ask Bolt660 :)

erm, the commentator on BBC said this game is on Tuesday??

[Stephen]

Wheres the "You will lose :)" option

its well upsetting when i look on fifa comments of matches and all the countries neighbours are like "GOODLUCK NEIGHBOUR WE LOVE U" and then all our neighbours want us to lose 20-0 or something. Jealousy pfft

[Sameer!]

England are obviously going to win! :D

[Adamm]

ask Bolt660 :)

erm, the commentator on BBC said this game is on Tuesday??
you know nothing about football go away

[JackBuddy]

Thankfully coverage is on BBC, good start.

[CHA!NGANG]

And we're wearing red

[luce]

come on england! It's more than football when it's with Germany it's national pride. I think we will pull it out now and continue to get better through the knock out stages, I don't fear germany they have nothing but confidence on their side whereas we have that and some class players also. we just have to believe that we have the talent to do it, and it would be handy if Wayne Rooney turned up :-)

[JackBuddy]

I can see us limping our way to the latter stages of this tournament like France in 2006 and Greece in Euro 2004.

[Gibs960]

Agreed :( We probably won't win but I hope we do :(

[Sameer!]

The game is this Sunday at umm 2PM or something on BBC1

[Arron]

you know nothing about football go away

yes true. 10 years = no knowledge.
the commentator said that England vs. Germany > Tuesday 3pm kick off two times.
just had me thinking >;l

[-Heart]

In a way, I'm happy we've got Germany in the Last 16. If this really is our year, and if we really are going to win the World Cup, we have to prove it in games like this.

A game against our bitter rivals is the perfect way to do that. They're definitely beatable, there's no doubt about that. For me they just don't have the same German feel to them as they have done in the past. Sure it's going to be difficult, but I think we can do it.

2-1 England. COME ON, let's ******* do this.

[JackBuddy]

It'd be boring if we won it by playing easier teams ;)

[Eoin]

Germany to win 3-1, Glasgows gonna be buzzin on sunday night :)
SIG HEIL!

[Bun]

not scared in the slightest. i can see us dominating but letting in a sloppy goal, 5-1. ;)

[Alba]

I expect it to be a close game between England and Germany. Germany have no superstars, but work well as a collective. If I was to guess I'd say Germany to scrape it 2-1 aet.

Can't let Beckenbauer down now, Germany.

[Moh]

I think we'll win.

The only goal we let in was a mistake.

[AlexOC]

3 - 1 England.

I have thought long and hard on this.

Rooney is finally going to start performing and score two. They will score a goal which we really should of defended better against. Then to top it off Crouch scores to put us through to the Quarters.

[JackBuddy]

Germany to win 3-1, Glasgows gonna be buzzin on sunday night :)
SIG HEIL!

Oh welcome back. No comments on what everyone said to you last week?

[CJW93]

I think England will be fine against them

[Hitman]

England can do it if we play with a tad more focus than the last match. I reckon Germany will score 1, then we'll score another 2 and Germany may get a second. COME ON ENGLAND!

[PaulMacC]

I think England will get pummeled.
Germany 3-1 England

[Stephen]

I think we stand a good chance tbh


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B2LPxggvqY

[Adamm]

Germany to win 3-1, Glasgows gonna be buzzin on sunday night :)
SIG HEIL!
ur scottish but u have an irish name?

[JackBuddy]

ur scottish but u have an irish name?
he also thinks he's some sort of infidel with an IRA picture as his sig.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I found this posted on Facebook :P


this world cup has turned out like ww2! the french surrendered early, the usa arrive last min and we are left to fight the ******* germans!

I think England will win anyway, could go either way.

[Neversoft]

I found this posted on Facebook :P

I think England will win anyway, could go either way.

Here I am thinking Paul actually came up with that (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=651762&p=6558894#post6558894). He has lost a little of my respect. For shame. At least my post was new material (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=651762&p=6558951#post6558951).

[Sameer!]

Only 1 day left to go! C'mon England! hehe

[Apolva]

Going to be an anxious game no doubt. If we lose I'll probably support Brazil :)

[Arron]

Well as I've said the back 5 are amazing, they put their bodies on the line and that will be the key. Rooney needs a goal or two in this match because it's been poor so far. I just really hope we do it and go to the final in the hard route.

[Andeeh]

I hope England do well but it doesn't matter if not, we have won one world cup this year already - it would be greedy having 2.

[Crawl]

Considering the fact that we beat them before 5 - 1, I dont think we have any chance of doing this again as germany has progressed and become alot better of a team than they was before

I still think england may pull it off though

[Apolva]

Just checked Ladbrokes (betting site) and added up all the winnings for guessing each team winning.

If Germany win, winnings =592
If England win, winnings =513

Therefore, they think England has a slightly higher chance of winning :)

[CHA!NGANG]

Just checked Ladbrokes (betting site) and added up all the winnings for guessing each team winning.

If Germany win, winnings =592
If England win, winnings =513

Therefore, they think England has a slightly higher chance of winning :)

They're bound to do that. Most people in England would put a bet on England winning, not Germany so they naturally have to have lower odds.

[Neversoft]

We've never lost any of the international games in which Gerrard has scored. If he scores tomorrow hopefully it'll stay the same. :8

[Mexel]

Oi, i cannot believe 13 people voted we would lose, i thought we only had like 2 Welsh on here.

There were 10 German bombers in the air..

5-1 Even Heskey scored

COME ON ENGLAND.

[AlexOC]

There we no german bombers in the air!
There we no german bombers in the air!
no german bombers
no german bombers
no german bombers in the air!

'Cos the RAF from england shot them down
'Cos the RAF from england shot them down
RAF from england
RAF from england
RAF from england shot them down

EASY EASY EASY!

[Geraint]

Oi, i cannot believe 13 people voted we would lose, i thought we only had like 2 Welsh on here.

There were 10 German bombers in the air..

5-1 Even Heskey scored

COME ON ENGLAND.

i haven't voted lol.

[PaulMacC]

Just checked Ladbrokes (betting site) and added up all the winnings for guessing each team winning.

If Germany win, winnings =592
If England win, winnings =513

Therefore, they think England has a slightly higher chance of winning :)
Yes, just checked.
Heskey top goal scorer, winnings= £500000
Forlan top goal scorer, winnings = £400
Therefore Forlan has a higher chance of winning.

[Mexel]

There we no german bombers in the air!
There we no german bombers in the air!
no german bombers
no german bombers
no german bombers in the air!

'Cos the RAF from england shot them down
'Cos the RAF from england shot them down
RAF from england
RAF from england
RAF from england shot them down

EASY EASY EASY!
Oh i love it, i realy do.

i haven't voted lol.
Blates have and made loads of new accounts and voted too! Lol Jk, its the Germans!!

Me and me mum and me dad and me gran we're off to waterloo me and me mum and me dad and me gran And a bucket of vindaloo la la laaa

Footballs coming home.

[Sameer!]

-is think how to pass time to make 3PM come quicker...- CMON ENGLAND, BRING IT HOME!

[cocaine]

Here I am thinking Paul actually came up with that (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=651762&p=6558894#post6558894). He has lost a little of my respect. For shame. At least my post was new material (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=651762&p=6558951#post6558951).

alas he took it from a website (http://www.sickipedia.org/joke/view/492107)

3-0 Germany

[JackBuddy]

Blates have and made loads of new accounts and voted too! Lol Jk, its the Germans!!


Nah it's just the bitter scots.

[ihatehash]

I'm not sure who I'll support but i think England will win. I am waking up at 2am for this one.

[Arron]

I'm not sure who I'll support but i think England will win. I am waking up at 2am for this one.

you die hard

[AlexOC]

I'm not sure who I'll support but i think England will win. I am waking up at 2am for this one.

thank you so much, it means alot. <3

[Stephen]

Nah it's just the bitter scots.

who cares, the feeling is mutual anyway

[Apolva]

Ahh god, here we go.

[Camy]

what a goal! was not expecting that!

[Stephen]

gotta be careful with that keeper..

[Stryderman]

tala england o/

unless they can pull a rabbit out a hat i dnt think they stand a chance

[-mastercasino-]

Germany 1-0 England

[Hecktix]

With any luck that goal will scare them a little into pulling their act together, it took a scare to get them playing in the Slovenia game, although Germany are looking strong here.

[Stryderman]

Germany are playing rly well tht goal was pretty sweet too

[Adamm]

ohh look, the goal was offside

[Circadia]

aha lol the ref got in the way stupid ref

2-0 what are england doing !!

[Stryderman]

lol im sorry but wht the hell are england playing at

[Stephen]

we ******* suck. Don't deserve to win anyway if they let them do that all the ******* time

[Moh]

We're not going to pull it off now =[

[Camy]

another pretty good goal, england will have to step it up if they want to stay in.

[Stephen]

I can actually see england doing a north korea. 7-0 germany or something..

[Stryderman]

hah that would be lulz.


I can actually see england doing a north korea. 7-0 germany or something..

[Stephen]

seriously im going to turn this over

[Camy]

I can actually see england doing a north korea. 7-0 germany or something..

haha, the way they're playing atm, it wouldn't surprise me.

[PaulMacC]

2-1 lol

[Apolva]

YES UPSON.

[Camy]

omg lol, they have stepped it up, lampards goal was ridiculously far in!

[lPinoy]

what a disgrace

[Sharon]

Hahahahaha it didn't count ;)

Good!

[Stephen]

so stupid..

[-paul.]

goal line technology. ITS THERE USE IT!

[Lost_Addict]

Wtf that stupid Referee it was half way in the bloody goal -.-

[Stephen]

The referees a ****** ahahhaa

[Geraint]

does something spring to mind about that disallowed goal?

[Stephen]

the ref is a nazi

[Lost_Addict]

does something spring to mind about that disallowed goal?

He should of gone to specsavers?

[Moh]

He shouldn't be able to argue against the cameras!

[Stryderman]

Is this ref german?

[MrGazet]

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/9712/xi3.png

[-paul.]

fifa need to get their heads out the sand forget about how much their gonna get in bonus' and invest. I am disgusted.

[Lost_Addict]

Theres the Tech nowadays to watch replays. Why don't they just use that to confirm / disallow goals?

Island would still be in the world cup
England woudl be drawing

The rules of football are a joke

[Moh]

The ref is Spanish.

[Geraint]

The ref is Spanish.

Uruguay actually.

[Neversoft]

WTF!!!!!!!!!

[crazed]

The ref is a ******.

I fixed it for you <3

[Moh]

Uruguay actually.
They speak Spanish, near enough :P

[Camy]

does something spring to mind about that disallowed goal?
I really hope you're not talking about 1966.


It doesn't make sense for them not to have the goal line technology, would make the game so much fairer, they already have it tennis, and it works well, so why don't they just add it.

[Ardemax]

i actually lol'd at the blindsman linesman

[Special]

sorry but that was in

[Geraint]

I really hope you're not talking about 1966.


It doesn't make sense for them not to have the goal line technology, would make the game so much fairer, they already have it tennis, and it works well, so why don't they just add it.

karma at last.

[Stephen]

so there is nothing they can do about it?

[Apolva]

They should just admit the mistake and correct the score for the beginning of the second half.

[Moh]

Larrionda was selected as a referee for the 2010 FIFA World Cup. He was the referee at the match Australia-Serbia, which Australia won 2-1. During the match's injury time, he controversially failed to award a penalty shot to Serbia following a Tim Cahill handball in the Australian penalty area. The goal would have put Serbia through to the next round.

What a *****.

[Camy]

karma at last.

Lol, I guess so.

To be fair though, they deserve to be getting beat by a lot more, can't imagine how pissed off the Germans will be if they get beat.

[dbgtz]

Watta ****
obviously wont be added for the sake of their dignity.

[Cixso]

They should just admit the mistake and correct the score for the beginning of the second half.

They can't do that can they?

Are they allowed to watch the vid evidence at H/T? (referees)

[xxMATTGxx]

It is a bloody disgrace to be honest.

[Gibs960]

They can watch it, but they won't allow it, once again we've been cheated out....... thats if we lose, c'mon England!

[Lost_Addict]

They can't do that can they?

Are they allowed to watch the vid evidence at H/T? (referees)

No, it's bloody ridiculous.

The Ref should sleep with one eye open XD

[Stryderman]

Just hope they score a couple more 2nd half to beat the germans :P

[crazed]

They can't do that can they?

Are they allowed to watch the vid evidence at H/T? (referees)

They shouldn't have to. They should have seen it right after he disallowed it, even if that means an England fan throwing a portable tv at him.

[Lost_Addict]

They shouldn't have to. They should have seen it right after he disallowed it, even if that means an England fan throwing a portable tv at him.

I lol'd at that :D

[Axel]

If we lose one goal down, or draw and lose to penalties/extra time, there will be so much rage.

[Stephen]

if we lose I hope england fans create the worst riot ever!12111 That ref better have bodyguards for when he comes out the stad!

[crazed]

By the way, Fifa president Sepp Blatter, the man who is so desperate to stop the introduction of goalline technology, is at the Free State Stadium in Bloemfontein.


From BBC site.


LOL fight?!

[Moh]

If we lose one goal down, or draw and lose to penalties/extra time, there will be so much rage.
I know right!

Bye Bye to his job lol

[Camy]

here we go again, will be interesting to see how different they'll play.

[Geraint]

you do realise that england are practically guaranteed a penalty or a german red card in the second half?

[crazed]

you do realise that england are practically guaranteed a penalty or a german red card in the second half?

Just got the yellow :)

[Apolva]

I'm thinking they might disallow a German goal if it's controversial now :)

[Camy]

you do realise that england are practically guaranteed a penalty or a german red card in the second half?

yeah, most likely, think hes starting early with that yellow he just gave out.

[-paul.]

That ref looks like he rang his wife and told her to forget the holiday to England

[Circadia]

LOL at all the england players booing the ref

the ref is stupid though first he gets in the way of the ball then he disallows a perfect go like they sed at h/t it wasnt in by a bit or nto in atall it was in by loads

[Geraint]

who's going to dive for the pen? rooney, gerrard or milner? steven "i never dive" gerrard for me.

[crazed]

That ref looks like he rang his wife and told her to forget the holiday to England

LOL +REP..

Every shot England takes my heart skips a beat D:

[Moh]

This world cup is terrible!

First ITV play a car advert over our first goal and now the BBC play a specsavers advert!

[Axel]

yeah, most likely, think hes starting early with that yellow he just gave out.

Off topic but who is that in your avatar? I think I know, but unsure and it's driving me mad.

[Circadia]

aha dont watch it in HD otherwise you will get adverts thru it :)

[Camy]

First ITV play a car advert over our first goal and now the BBC play a specsavers advert!
Lol, quite ironic really.

Off topic but who is that in your avatar? I think I know, but unsure and it's driving me mad.
Julian Smith, hes a comedian on youtube :)

[Axel]

Lol, quite ironic really.

Julian Smith, hes a comedian on youtube :)


Ah, thought it was Mark Dolan from Balls of Steel, I think they'd look quite similar if Mark Dolan took his glasses off.

[Moh]

England need to stop with the long shots. The ref wont see them go in.

[MrPinkPanther]

To be fair we are getting more close shots than Germany including one so close it was in the goal.

[MrGazet]

GOALLLLL!

[Camy]

they think its all over...

[Circadia]

right weve lost :L

[Apolva]

KK, we're out now. 3-1

[MrPinkPanther]

Thats it.

[Moh]

I blame the ref, if he let that goal in, events would have changed =[

[lPinoy]

oh just great. where was everybody :3

[Apolva]

Honestly, we now need 2 goals just to DRAW.

Ref's fault

Edit - 3 to draw

[lPinoy]

4-1 bloody

we're gone ;l

[Camy]

...it is now.

[MrGazet]

ANOTHER GOALLL

[Stephen]

ive turned it over

[Gibs960]

Ridiculous! Can't win by fair play - only by cheatin'.

[Lost_Addict]

If they allowed that goal morale would of been higher -.-

[Stryderman]

na thts it i give up. englands gone

[Apolva]

Now we can't even use our goal earlier as an excuse :(

[samsaBEAR]

**** man that was such a nice 4th goal. we don't even deserve to win this game.

[Camy]

Ridiculous! Can't win by fair play - only by cheatin'.

how are they cheating exactly?
they've been the better team all game apart from a brief period when england came back and scored the goals.

[lPinoy]

Now we can't even use our goal earlier as an excuse :(

yh but if we had won that goal, everything else would've been different

[Stephen]

**** that, still should beat that ref up and kill some germans

[Lost_Addict]

EUUGHHHH theres a brown smeary substance on the pitch... Oh wait it's the England Defenders -.-

[Moh]

4-2 would have been better!

Plus if they let that goal in, it would have changed events in time, causing the team to play differently :(

[Mrak-Face]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH.

Oh God.

[Apolva]

Here come the headlines... ENGLAND BLITZED BY THE GERMANS

[PaulMacC]

Makes me glad Ireland didn't qualify. Humiliation.

[MrGazet]

Bye Capello

[samsaBEAR]

how are they cheating exactly?
they've been the better team all game apart from a brief period when england came back and scored the goals.
Exactly this. That disallowed goal can not be used as an excuse, we're playing like idiots, we don't deserve to win. Yeah it's unfortunate, but ******* just using that over and over again is just stupid.


Here come the headlines... ENGLAND BLITZED BY THE GERMANS
You have no idea have much I laughed, +rep

[Circadia]

i think world war 3 is going to happen maybe tht octopus was right http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2DYi0kRgCQ no not maybe HE WAS RIGHT

[MrGazet]

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3849/coachx.jpg

[Apolva]

9 minutes to get 4 goals. WE CAN DO THIS :D

[Stephen]

I want riots after the match!111111

[Sameer!]

:'(:'( wow 4-1, our tournament is over.

[crazed]

i think world war 3 is going to happen maybe tht octopus was right http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2DYi0kRgCQ no not maybe HE WAS RIGHT

Gonna stab that octopus.

[samsaBEAR]

I want riots after the match!111111
I feel sorry for the South African security/police/residents

[Lost_Addict]

My thoughts are that in the last 5 mins Fabio, Beckham and Ferdinand will sub themselfs onto the pitch and score 5 goals. Fabio will then Turn into the hulk and eat the Ref.

[samsaBEAR]

If Beckham was fit enough to play I reckon we would've had a better chance

[Moh]

When Germany won Eurovision, a bomb went off.. right?

[Lost_Addict]

Englands coming home
There coming home
There coming
Englands coming home
There comming home
There comming

[Apolva]

COME ON GERMANY, YES!!!

[crazed]

Congrats to Germany.

[Camy]

game over, the right team won.

[lPinoy]

disappointed tbh
germany fully deserved it

[Sameer!]

Grats Germany. Full time 4-1

[MrGazet]

Sorry England

http://a.yfrog.com/img517/774/l4w.png

List of excuses of Eng for the World Cup since 1970

[crazed]

game over, the right team won.

They was on the left?

[Geraint]

Regardless of the disallowed goal or not, you can't deny the better team won. Quite frankly, I think that the Germans were under-estimated and Alan Hansen summed it up before the game.

[lPinoy]

lool@the two posters above geraint*

ot: ;l

[Eoin]

Thank you england for a very entertaining game :) glasgow salutes you !
X

[Stephen]

Thank you england for a very entertaining game :) glasgow salutes you !
X

hey maybe one day you'll get in the world cup? :D

[Sameer!]

England played horribly.

[Arron]

FIFA explain again why you can't introduce goal line technology. The biggest tournament in the World and the biggest football association is ruined because of the lack of investment.

[W00TZEH]

The defence was absolutely terrible, all over the place.
Rooney is dead to me, and I was starting to like him before the World Cup. He just never turned up.
Heskey on? **** off capello
SWP right back? **** off capello

Sepp blatter and the referee can **** off aswell, *****s.

Well done Germany you beat a **** team.

[Stephen]

Lol seriously every 4 years fgs. Once they find out who is hosting the world cup, they could easily install that kind of technology just for the world cup

[cocaine]

Thank you england for a very entertaining game :) glasgow salutes you !
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oh cool so whens the scotland game on?

[Fez]

I'm pretty dumb when it comes to football, but when the best player on the pitch is your goalie, then you've got something wrong with your defence.

Rooney really didn't look fit, at all, just kind of deathly even.

[Stephen]

oh cool so whens the scotland game on?

lol. It's k when someone who is actually still in it says something like that but when it's a scottish person.. it just sounds so... fail

[danzooo]

Germany = Scotland's new number 1 fan!

[Neversoft]

Haha, the last piece of footage the BBC played was the disallowed goal. People are going to be on about that for years to come.

[MrGazet]

Yes, the quality of refereeing is so bad that FIFA really has to do something about it. But Germany outclassed and outpaced England in many occasions, they are just too good for England

That's no excuse IMO.

[Grig]

You may have disallowed a goal, but it was a disgrace. It could have easily been even more. Germany were treating England like a high school football team.

[Stephen]

more like a pub football team

[MrGazet]

You may have disallowed a goal, but it was a disgrace. It could have easily been even more. Germany were treating England like a high school football team.

Disallowed goal, remember '66, karma's a b**** ain't it? :)

[crazed]

Disallowed goal, remember '66, karma's a b**** ain't it? :)

Not when both goals were actually in..

[Jahova]

nice one england

[dbgtz]

Tbh I reckon if we got that one which went in but was disallowed the team would have felt less dishearted and could have make it either a win or a draw.

[Gibs960]

how are they cheating exactly?
they've been the better team all game apart from a brief period when england came back and scored the goals.

Team Morale would of been a lot better, England were obviously and understandably pissed off, therefore not playing their best. How were England cheated, oh they weren't they just got a goal dis-allowed when it was about 4 yards over the line.

[lTraditional]

England were very bad but i have to say, Germany were quite good at football and i got my prediction wrong as i predicted that it would be 1-0 to england which is way out!

[Tintinnabulate]

Tbh I reckon if we got that one which went in but was disallowed the team would have felt less dishearted and could have make it either a win or a draw.

I am laughing at people saying that. People who say that clearly didn't watch the match properly.

Even the commentators said, THE DEFENCE WAS CRAP. They couldn't bloody tackle, they couldn't keep possession of the ball, they couldn't pass properly :S They made shots which were never going to go in. Germany had the same shot but they didn't waste it, they passed it to each other - and passed and ran quickly and only shot when there was actually a chance.

Got a bloody headache now but urgh what terrible defence. Saw 15 England flags and a ripped up teddy on the way back home - pretty much sums it all up.

[Andys]

Stop blaming it on Lampards goal. We wern't good enough, and didn't stand a chance in hell against that German team. Infact, Germany wern't anything spectacular, we were just spectacularly abismul. We would have lost regardless of weather Lampards goal counted or did not count.

[Tintinnabulate]

Stop blaming it on Lampards goal. We wern't good enough, and didn't stand a chance in hell against that German team. Infact, Germany wern't anything spectacular, we were just spectacularly abismul. We would have lost regardless of weather Lampards goal counted or did not count.

This.

Wow it would have been 4-2 and joint worst defeat, but would have still lost. England were simply terrible.

[MrGazet]

Relax you lot and watch "Crapello" in action :P

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[dbgtz]

Stop blaming it on Lampards goal. We wern't good enough, and didn't stand a chance in hell against that German team. Infact, Germany wern't anything spectacular, we were just spectacularly abismul. We would have lost regardless of weather Lampards goal counted or did not count.

but that uncounted goal could technically mean alot more things, it could mean the ref was showing favouritism as there could be points (if you were to look back) where we should have got some free kicks or something.

[Tintinnabulate]

but that uncounted goal could technically mean alot more things, it could mean the ref was showing favouritism as there could be points (if you were to look back) where we should have got some free kicks or something.

Omg 1 disallowed goal when the score was 4-1 means nothing. There was no favouritism. It was probably a bad angle or something or he was blind, but never favouritism.

[Geraint]

Not when both goals were actually in..

You think it went in??????

[CHA!NGANG]

I have two sides of my opinion.

The first is that this was a terrible performance and we didn't deserve to win. No English player stood out. Lampard and Gerrard played ok, as did Ashley Cole and James but everyone else was terrible. Germans played well and deserved to win.

Second side is that if it was 2-2, I am 99% sure the Germans would have cracked seeing as they only have 8 players over 25 in the team, and as soon as we scored the first, they paniced. On top of that, the other 2 goals came from counterattacks by Germany after England threw men forward to get a goal. If it was 2-2 we wouldn't have done that, and they wouldn't have been able to counterattack.

Overall, it was a fair result, although if you look at the stats we came out top for everything and if the goal counted it could have been a different story, but these things happen.

Time for the next generation to step up ;)

[Tintinnabulate]

I have two sides of my opinion.

The first is that this was a terrible performance and we didn't deserve to win. No English player stood out. Lampard and Gerrard played ok, as did Ashley Cole and James but everyone else was terrible. Germans played well and deserved to win.

Second side is that if it was 2-2, I am 99% sure the Germans would have cracked seeing as they only have 8 players over 25 in the team, and as soon as we scored the first, they paniked. On top of that, the other 2 goals came from counterattacks by Germany after England threw men forward to get a goal. If it was 2-2 we wouldn't have done that, and they wouldn't have been able to counterattack.

Overall, it was a fair result, although if you look at the stats we came out top for everything and if the goal counted it could have been a different story, but these things happen.

Time for the next generation to step up ;)

We did terrible when it was 0-0 and that terrible playing meant they scored 2 goals before HT. Even after HT, the defence was crap, hence they scored two more - so even if the score was 2-2, with the terrible defence, they would have still easily have scored and won.

WORLD CUP:

England boss Fabio Capello says he will not quit but will discuss his future with FA

^ was just on BBC's news website.

[MrGazet]

Captain Steven Gerrard admitted the disallowed goal had an effect but made no excuses for the heavy defeat.

"There were big key decisions in the game, at 2-1 we had a goal disallowed," he told BBC 5 Live. "At 2-1 we were hurting them and we were still in the game. I think it (the disallowed goal) had an effect but we cannot use that as an excuse with being beaten 4-1.

"That would have been a big goal for us. It's all ifs and buts. Germany are a fantastic team and they deserved their win. You go away and you have a think about what went wrong and why we didn't progress further in the tournament.

"As a team we've made a big mistake today and we've been beaten by a good team. They were more clinical in front of goal and they made less mistakes than us and we got punished for that."

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/world-cup/story/_/id/802996/ce/uk/?cc=4716&ver=global

[CHA!NGANG]

You could say that they would have scored at 2-2 yes, but on the otherhand as I said above, they counterattacked for the other 2 goals. They wouldn't have been able to do that if it was 2-2. Also, I could see a few of there players cracking.

[Browney]

If we lose one goal down, or draw and lose to penalties/extra time, there will be so much rage.

Phew. That's a relief.

[Andys]

but that uncounted goal could technically mean alot more things, it could mean the ref was showing favouritism as there could be points (if you were to look back) where we should have got some free kicks or something.
Are you for real?
We played disgraceful. Regardless of weather any decision went our way in that game or not, we would still not have won even if the ref gave us every little thing we appealed for.

[Sameer!]

Ashley Cole played solid in the past 3 games but this game it kind of fell apart from him.

[JackBuddy]

We played poorly, but I feel that if England went in 2-2 at half time anything could have happened (and there could have been no German counter attacks in the first place).

The disallowed goal and the poor decision that just happened in the Mexico game just outlined the need for goal line technology yet again. Seb Blatter needs to sort it out.

However, the loss could be the ideal platform for the introduction of a new group of players. Should Fabio resign/get sacked Pearce would be the ideal candidate with his knowledge of the current/previous U21 players. If we had gone far in this tournament I dread to imagine the current players playing in the next world cup too, like the Italians did.

The FA need to actually find a chief executive, find a chairman and sort Wembley out. Then ditch Heskey, Terry, Lampard etc and build for the future.

[Bun]

We played poorly, but I feel that if England went in 2-2 at half time anything could have happened (and there could have been no German counter attacks in the first place).

The disallowed goal and the poor decision that just happened in the Mexico game just outlined the need for goal line technology yet again. Seb Blatter needs to sort it out.

However, the loss could be the ideal platform for the introduction of a new group of players. Should Fabio resign/get sacked Pearce would be the ideal candidate with his knowledge of the current/previous U21 players. If we had gone far in this tournament I dread to imagine the current players playing in the next world cup too, like the Italians did.

The FA need to actually find a chief executive, find a chairman and sort Wembley out. Then ditch Heskey, Terry, Lampard etc and build for the future.

lol completely agreed. there is no excuse, we need video replay. accepting that there's going to be mistakes in football is not good enough especially at such a high stage.

yeah we played poorly, but i'm still proud to be english, roll on 2012 in east europe...

[JackBuddy]

Btw I think it is time that Capello is shown the door, he is reminding me more of Ramos every time I see him. His substitutions this world cup have been dreadful, along with his incompetence at selecting a number 1 goalkeeper, defender and formation. We had an easy qualification which looks to have flattered us massively.

It's such a shame that brilliant players such as Gerrard/Lampard/any of the wide men have not been used to their potential. His stubbornness cost us.

[CHA!NGANG]

Meh, I'm sick to death of saying 4-3-3 now. It's a joke. Every top country play it, Brazil, Argentina, Germany, Italy did for a bit, France did for a bit, Portugal do, Even Spain do at times. But somehow we're stuck with 4-4-2 which doesn't work.

It's a disgrace that he's been here 2 years and still needs a translator and he's the England manager. If he can't talk to the media in English, I doubt he can talk to the team properly and he shouldn't be the England manager.

[Arron]

Upson had a terrific game with Terry against Slovenia and I had no problem with these two pairing up against Germany today, but yeah King should've played and we might've had a better outcome

[JackBuddy]

Upson had a terrific game with Terry against Slovenia and I had no problem with these two pairing up against Germany today, but yeah King should've played and we might've had a better outcome
I wouldn't say he had a terrific game- he looked too nervous. Remember it was against Slovenia too..

[Eckuii]

Any sunday league team knows that having 1 defender on 1 attacker is not something you do, and then they do it twice against the Germans. They should of kept it tight at the back, they still had 25 minutes. They got too greedy.

As for the formation, England haven't took a step forward in them terms, they got rid of McClaren and then got this guy incharge who has used the same old system. Why?

He took the wrong players who were unfit or hadn't played games in ages. He said he was going to play in form players? Hello Johnson? Why the **** did Gerrard play, played rubbish all season IMO. As well as barry who was injured, SWP who didn't even get in the first team, Ledley King who can't even train with Tottenham coz hes nakered. What is he actually doing?

Well Capello has said that he isn't going to resign, the FA are stupid. They removed his get out clause before the world cup because they was afraid he was going to go to Inter Milan and now he has said he isnt resigning because its up to the FA. He obviously just want's the FA to terminate his contract so he can probably get a nice juicy 4 million pay off and wave goodbye.

A man that can't talk English cannot inspire English players.

[CHA!NGANG]

As for Upson against Slovenia. I don't understand that. People say he had a good game, I think he had an average, borderline poor game. His passing was good, and his block was good. That was it. He was very shaky on the ball for a lot of the game.

[JackBuddy]

He took the wrong players who were unfit or hadn't played games in ages. He said he was going to play in form players? Hello Johnson? Why the **** did Gerrard play, played rubbish all season IMO. As well as barry who was injured, SWP who didn't even get in the first team, Ledley King who can't even train with Tottenham coz hes nakered. What is he actually doing?

King is arguably England's best second/third choice CB. He doesn't train- he hasn't for a couple of years. He was unlucky to get the groin injury against the USA game (which has nothing to do with his troublesome knee). He proved towards the end of last season that he can cope with the demands. He was fit today but Capello opted to stick with Upson, regretably.

edit: nicked this from coys but it echos truth.



If you have two attacking full backs you have a tight midfield with 2 x DM/holding players.

If you have a flat and static back 4 you have attacking wide players.

We had the bits of both that go wrong.

How is it possible to get the shape/team/personnal so wrong.

Surely on this basis you have these formations:

Formation A:

____________Keeper

ARB______ CB ______CB _____ ALB

_________DM ______DM

___RM_______CM______LM

______________CF

Formation B:


____________Keeper

DRB______ CB ______CB _____ DLB

RM ______DM ______CM_____LM

_________CF_______CF

ON the basis we had fullbacks for formation A, the team should have been based on the 30 players

____________James

Johnson______ Terry ______King _____ Cole

_________Barry ______Hudd

___Lennon_____Gerrard______Adam Johnson

___________Rooney

You then deal with the Gerrard/FatFrank issue, the who plays with Rooney issue, the centre backs are exposed issue, you have pace on both flanks, you have a balanced and constructive team.

[JackBuddy]

Why are all paragraphs showing as centralised for me???

[Swastika]

Well i guess im not the only person who was incredibly disappointed with the performance by England today?
They scored easily by counter-attack and to be honest that shouldn't happen - not at this level of international football.
Rooney couldn't hit a barn door this summer and no doubt he'll be back in his red strip banging goals in at Old Trafford when the premier league season starts again.
The strong German team made England look like a very very very poor team, to be honest this wasn't our year, maybe next time we'll be luckier.

[Arron]

well sorry i just meant terrific as putting blocks in, but as for passing he is poor.

[-Adam]

Lol @ England. Im english but personally I hate the team, Im all for Spain.

[AlexOC]

Just got in :(

I can't believe i started the day with so much enthusiasm and believe, the pre-match build up was amazing, but everything just stopped when we started playing. We were piss poor for there two goals, an absolute shocker. And i don't want to be biased but there is no doubt that if the lampards goal had of rightly been given, things would of been much different, we could of easily snatched another before half time running on the adrenaline from the two goals. But no, it wasn't and our defence was forced apart because we were forced to play so offensive.

Theres always 2014! When we won't have gerrard, lampard, rio, terry, james, and rooney will be out of his prime (not that he was in one in the first place) Hopefully Milner and Johnson will grow and become the best players in the world, and Lennon and Walcott put on a good show. But for defence, god knows, Arsenals Gibbs?

So much hype, no performance, like always.

[CHA!NGANG]

Just got in :(

I can't believe i started the day with so much enthusiasm and believe, the pre-match build up was amazing, but everything just stopped when we started playing. We were piss poor for there two goals, an absolute shocker. And i don't want to be biased but there is no doubt that if the lampards goal had of rightly been given, things would of been much different, we could of easily snatched another before half time running on the adrenaline from the two goals. But no, it wasn't and our defence was forced apart because we were forced to play so offensive.

Theres always 2014! When we won't have gerrard, lampard, rio, terry, james, and rooney will be out of his prime (not that he was in one in the first place) Hopefully Milner and Johnson will grow and become the best players in the world, and Lennon and Walcott put on a good show. But for defence, god knows, Arsenals Gibbs?

So much hype, no performance, like always.

Hm.. 2014.. maybe:

--------------- Hart --------------
Johnson - Cahill - Shawcross - Gibbs
-- Milner - Huddlestone - Wilshere --
-- Walcott - Rooney - A. Johnson --

I hope we start playing our younger players because they have a lot of potential.

[JackBuddy]

Theres always 2014! When we won't have gerrard, lampard, rio, terry, james, and rooney will be out of his prime (not that he was in one in the first place) Hopefully Milner and Johnson will grow and become the best players in the world, and Lennon and Walcott put on a good show. But for defence, god knows, Arsenals Gibbs?

So much hype, no performance, like always.

In terms of the future I don't think defence will be that bad; Johnson, Warnock, Smalling, Dawson, Bertrand, Shawcross, Jones, Richards, Gibbs etc. It's strikers I worry about. It all comes down to whether managers are willing to give the likes of Rodwell, Wilshere etc games if they are to step up at a similar age to when Gerrard and Lampard etc did.

[AlexOC]

In terms of the future I don't think defence will be that bad; Johnson, Warnock, Smalling, Dawson, Bertrand, Shawcross, Jones, Richards, Gibbs etc. It's strikers I worry about. It all comes down to whether managers are willing to give the likes of Rodwell, Wilshere etc games if they are to step up at a similar age to when Gerrard and Lampard etc did.

Yeah i don't think Fabio really gave the youngsters a chance. I definately think Hart should of started the first game. I also don't understand why he didn't bring A.J or Walcott? And brings Heskey on when we're losing 4 - 1.

[JackBuddy]

Euro 2012 worries me most- Fabio will have to decide whether to stick with the 30 year olds until after 2012 or just get straight into the restructuring of the squad with the younger talent.

[CHA!NGANG]

In terms of the future I don't think defence will be that bad; Johnson, Warnock, Smalling, Dawson, Bertrand, Shawcross, Jones, Richards, Gibbs etc. It's strikers I worry about. It all comes down to whether managers are willing to give the likes of Rodwell, Wilshere etc games if they are to step up at a similar age to when Gerrard and Lampard etc did.

Wilshere is getting loaned out atm, and is playing week in week out at a PL club so that's good for him. In a year or two he'll be ready for Arsenal but it doesn't help that we have Nasri, Fabregas, Diaby, Denilson and Ramsey all ahead of him, and none of them are over 23. If Fabregas leaves, who knows.

Apparently Arteta is leaving Everton because his son has just been diagnosed with partial blindness, and he wants to go back to Spain with his family to take care of him. If Arteta leaves, Rodwell could get his break.

With the strikers, as long as we change do a 4-3-3 Rooney will dominate. We have a few good strikers coming through like Agbonlahor, Welbeck, Sturridge e/t/c but I see Rooney having that position for years.

---------- Post added 27-06-2010 at 09:56 PM ----------

As for the Euros, I would rather we bring all the youngers, played them, got out the group then failed at the Last 16, then stick with the current crop and prelong the development of the future players and possibly get further.

[AlexOC]

Oh great, Rooney!

Can anybody shed any light onto his performance because i just can't?

Tiredness, not enough support?, or just nothing going right for him?