HabboxForum Suggestions Box! [+15Rep to all reasonable suggestions!]

[Hecktix]

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Okay, so it's becoming obvious that HabboxForum isn't getting as many posts as it would usually get, infact it's been quite quiet and this is no good for anybody!

Basically, what I want to know is why you aren't posting and what you think would make you post more around HabboxForum, any changes you think should be made to the forum structure, rules, forum-staff run competitions, advertisement on (and off) Habbo etc.

Obviously I can only implement suggestions that we as management feel will benefit HabboxForum although we always take user suggestions seriously!

Any constructive suggestions will get +15 rep points, anybody who just posts unconstructively slagging off staff, rules etc won't be listened to.

If you have a suggestion you don't want to post in the thread then you can always PM me :)

Thanks in advance :)

[Catzsy]

My suggestion is not to worry. It is summer season. :)

[Nemo]

There's nothing interesting to post in. A lot of threads are How many x do u have. i dont kike reading them so i have nothing to respond to. I usually reply to stuff instead of randomly posting. also it seems as tho there is a lot less ppl sometimes

[dogboy123]

Think it's the lack of new members, people just post in spam and its like they're enclosed in there, also the fact that there's so many forums there really isnt need for some of them.

[Alkaz]

I know that since the rep rules were initially changed a couple of years ago they've been relaxed like twice or something but I think that people don't really bother giving rep any more and I think that when it was easier to get people were more inclined to post in debates and proper discussion. Like that people got more rep and was more inclined to post more instead of in some pretty meaningless threads. It doesn't really make much difference to me now but I would like to see the rep rules altered slightly and more competitions for reputation instead of VIP and other prizes as well as more user friendly debates as some of the debates require quiet a bit of knowledge just to comment on.

Edit: To above, I think that a lot of people in spam etc almost actively put new members off or thats how it seems to me. They never really seem to stick around for long and spam should be a good place for them to get to know people but I don't feel like at the moment it is.

[Nemo]

I know that since the rep rules were initially changed a couple of years ago they've been relaxed like twice or something but I think that people don't really bother giving rep any more and I think that when it was easier to get people were more inclined to post in debates and proper discussion. Like that people got more rep and was more inclined to post more instead of in some pretty meaningless threads. It doesn't really make much difference to me now but I would like to see the rep rules altered slightly and more competitions for reputation instead of VIP and other prizes as well as more user friendly debates as some of the debates require quiet a bit of knowledge just to comment on.
that's true on the rep part. back in the day if i posted a thread saying +11 rep for useful replies, id get a good 3 pages. i did it the other day with +20 and got like 3 replies

[-Danube-]

You already have a 'Debates Leader' and i think it would be nice to broaden this team so that you could have debates leaders for different sections. You could have the following:

Habbo Debates Leader
Entertainment Debates Leader
Technology Debates Leader
Sports Debates Leader
Health Debates Leader

These are just suggestions of what you could have. And each week each Debate Leader must make new threads in their corresponding forums that provoke a debate and conversation. I think it's a good way to get everyone involved in a conversation within the forum, seeing everyone's views and maybe even provoking more people to start opening more threads and discussions about News and Goings on that they feel passionate about.

Just a little idea there :)

[Hecktix]

I know that since the rep rules were initially changed a couple of years ago they've been relaxed like twice or something but I think that people don't really bother giving rep any more and I think that when it was easier to get people were more inclined to post in debates and proper discussion. Like that people got more rep and was more inclined to post more instead of in some pretty meaningless threads. It doesn't really make much difference to me now but I would like to see the rep rules altered slightly and more competitions for reputation instead of VIP and other prizes as well as more user friendly debates as some of the debates require quiet a bit of knowledge just to comment on.

Edit: To above, I think that a lot of people in spam etc almost actively put new members off or thats how it seems to me. They never really seem to stick around for long and spam should be a good place for them to get to know people but I don't feel like at the moment it is.

We do give away an awful lot of reputation although nobody seems to care about reputation anymore, we even had a complaint the other day about the top model prize, which included 150 reputation points which is an insane amount and you don't see us give that much out every day :P

I agree about the spam being unwelcoming though, although this has always been at HabboxForum and moderation do their best efforts to prevent this.

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You already have a 'Debates Leader' and i think it would be nice to broaden this team so that you could have debates leaders for different sections. You could have the following:

Habbo Debates Leader
Entertainment Debates Leader
Technology Debates Leader
Sports Debates Leader
Health Debates Leader

These are just suggestions of what you could have. And each week each Debate Leader must make new threads in their corresponding forums that provoke a debate and conversation. I think it's a good way to get everyone involved in a conversation within the forum, seeing everyone's views and maybe even provoking more people to start opening more threads and discussions about News and Goings on that they feel passionate about.

Just a little idea there :)

Whilst I see the point in this I think it'd be pointless to hire new staff entirely, moderators are advised to post as much as they can but I could easily make them make X amount of threads per week.

[hah]

Since you split the forum (community +annoc) it seems more clogged up again. That was a really really stupid idea.

and Catzsy that summer reason is ********, i got told july was always the highest month for posting

[Nemo]

oh, and i'd say we need to increase the number of new members. ive seen a lot of our older members who've been here for years leaving as they're gettin towards their 20s, but still nobody new

[-Danube-]

We do give away an awful lot of reputation although nobody seems to care about reputation anymore, we even had a complaint the other day about the top model prize, which included 150 reputation points which is an insane amount and you don't see us give that much out every day :P

I agree about the spam being unwelcoming though, although this has always been at HabboxForum and moderation do their best efforts to prevent this.

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Whilst I see the point in this I think it'd be pointless to hire new staff entirely, moderators are advised to post as much as they can but I could easily make them make X amount of threads per week.


Maybe don't hire them as staff? Have it as like a community role, you could get people to apply for the roles or you could approach people from each section of the forum and ask them if they want to undertake the role. You could reward them with VIP or something, but they wouldn't actually be staff, they just have a role to post thought provoking threads to get people talking and in return they get VIP. You could have different debates leader each month? I dunno how you could work it but i think this is a really decent idea to get people posting more though provoking threads, rather than just millions of threads asking for help.

[Mathew]

Personally, I think the problem simply lies in the lack of members which stick around.
I know it takes a lot of organising, but I really think there needs to be an increased number of events and things which actually happen on Habbo.

The majority of staff sit in HxHD and don't move. Yeah there's maybe a couple of events a day - but it's very rare the people actually sign up. Possibly a giveaway where you have to be signed up to the forum before you get furniture. Right now, we wait for people to come to events / HxHD to advertise the site and hope they sign up. We need to make the effort and go to them.

I would probably dedicate one day a week to promoting Habbox. I remember the "Habbox Day" a couple of months ago where there was an event each hour - DJs were all notified, events staff were advertising each others event, etc. Of course, it doesn't need to be this scale.. but we need more events like this where everyone is notified and everyone is trying their best to simply advertise.

[Hecktix]

Maybe don't hire them as staff? Have it as like a community role, you could get people to apply for the roles or you could approach people from each section of the forum and ask them if they want to undertake the role. You could reward them with VIP or something, but they wouldn't actually be staff, they just have a role to post thought provoking threads to get people talking and in return they get VIP. You could have different debates leader each month? I dunno how you could work it but i think this is a really decent idea to get people posting more though provoking threads, rather than just millions of threads asking for help.

We already have Member of the Month for those who do post around regularly but I suppose that is a different concept, I just can't help thinking that we'd struggle to find people willing to do this, because surely if there were people willing to do it then they'd be posting already :P

[-Danube-]

We already have Member of the Month for those who do post around regularly but I suppose that is a different concept, I just can't help thinking that we'd struggle to find people willing to do this, because surely if there were people willing to do it then they'd be posting already :P

Yeah, suppose you've got a point there. I'll try think up some more nooby ideas :P :)

[Catzsy]

Since you split the forum (community +annoc) it seems more clogged up again. That was a really really stupid idea.

and Catzsy that summer reason is ********, i got told july was always the highest month for posting

Whatever I say would be wrong as far as you are concerned. Once school is out then yes the posts will rise but until then there are lots on holiday.


On a more constructive note what about a referral comp?

[Hecktix]

Whatever I say would be wrong as far as you are concerned. Once school is out then yes the posts will rise but until then there are lots on holiday.


On a more constructive note what about a referral comp?

I'm always reluctant with referral comps because they don't usually end up with people sticking around, just registering. It's fair enough to then add rules saying each referred person must post X amount of times, but then it becomes tricky and I think fewer people would enter, if any.

[Nemo]

I'm always reluctant with referral comps because they don't usually end up with people sticking around, just registering. It's fair enough to then add rules saying each referred person must post X amount of times, but then it becomes tricky and I think fewer people would enter, if any.
Well, would be better than nothing. Nothing to lose after all! :D

[Catzsy]

Well is the number of new people registering dropping or is it retention that is the problem?

[Hecktix]

Well is the number of new people registering dropping or is it retention that is the problem?

Member retention is our main issue, although I suppose we could do with a few more registrations :P

[Dean]

The forum is getting boring tbh lol there needs to be more to do

[Hecktix]

The forum is getting boring tbh lol there needs to be more to do

Yes Dean, we've all established there needs to be more to do, but what would you like there to be?

[triston220]

I don't post much as I feel the moderators are far too strict, giving warnings for tiny things. I think that they should be a bit more lax. That would allow me to post more. :)

[Hecktix]

I don't post much as I feel the moderators are far too strict, giving warnings for tiny things. I think that they should be a bit more lax. That would allow me to post more. :)

Could you give some examples please?

[Matthew]

i just think that people need a reason to stick around, atm its just the same thing again and again, the same threads again and again.

i think we need more competitions which last for a longer period of time (like Big Brother)
perhaps theyll make people stick around for longer because they want to see how it turns out, and if theyre new then in that time they might come to enjoy habbox and stay for even longer still.

im not the best with suggestions but hopefully you get what i mean? xD

[Fez]

I think there's a more logical reason for this: people are growing up.

[Alkaz]

I think that the arcade became pretty popular again when you did that competition to add more games. Perhaps something like that every so often where say each month or every few months a small handful of games are added, just to keep things up to date and people interested in the arcade. That seemed to get it buzzing for a while and then it all just seemed to die down again.

[triston220]

Could you give some examples please?

Sure. ;)


Hey triston220,

I'm just PMing you regarding this post here (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=651208&p=6552825#post6552825).

Your post is seen as pointless as it made very little contribution to the topic of the thread and did not have any means in carrying on the appropriate discussion.

Pointless posting is against the forum rules.

Please see that this doesn't happen again or further action will have to be taken.

Thanks,
Nicola
Forum Super Moderator


Hey Mate,

Just a quick PM and heads up about this post:
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=622586&p=6386781#post6386781

As part of the graphics section rules, all posts that you make have to contain constructive criticism, however in your post you did not make any so it is considered pointless. I suggest that you take a little time to read the graphic section rules here: http://www.habboxforum.com/announcement.php?f=34&a=240

If you continue to make more pointless posts, then further action will be taken against your account.

Cheers,
Orangeesh (Forum Moderator)


Hey triston220,

In this post here (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=632423&p=6347568#post6347568) you have broken the forum rules. This is because you made a double post before your 15 minute time limit was up. You can edit your original post above up till 15 minutes have passed. Please ensure you double check before posting again and make sure if you do double post after 15 minutes is up that it is adding new information.

Thanks,

MattGarner



Hey Triston220,

I'm writing to you about the following post:

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=635843&p=6386642#post6386642


Here you double posted within the editing time.

There is a 15 minute period in which you should edit your previous post before making a new one straigt away.


This is just a PM reminder, but please be careful of this in the future.


Cheers,
Bolt660
Forum Super Moderator

[Matthew]

I think there's a more logical reason for this: people are growing up.
the current users are yes, what we want to know is why are less younger users signing up, and sticking around?

[Tintinnabulate]

My suggestion is not to worry. It is summer season. :)

Rosie, thats a silly reason. Summer leads to higher posts.


I'm always reluctant with referral comps because they don't usually end up with people sticking around, just registering. It's fair enough to then add rules saying each referred person must post X amount of times, but then it becomes tricky and I think fewer people would enter, if any.

Even if one member sticks around from it, its worth it.


Member retention is our main issue, although I suppose we could do with a few more registrations :P

In which case referral competition which I suggested in my thread yesterday would be beneficial.


I don't post much as I feel the moderators are far too strict, giving warnings for tiny things. I think that they should be a bit more lax. That would allow me to post more. :)

This.

The rules are wayyy too strict in regards to whats rude and what isn't. Calling someone pathetic on the internet because they contradict themselves to look right and getting a infraction is stupid.
Half the people in my thread said they aren't offended as its the internet.

Not allowing links to some sites in spam in case its advertising is stupid. Everything should be allowed in spam except porn, blatant rudeness etc.

I have said time and time again, Habbo has moved on and become less strict while Habbox has stayed behind.

Graham said the forums clogged up - in which case my previous thread would make index much much shorter and make the forums look active.
If someone looks in 3 similar forums and sees 3 threads each, they will think its dead. However if it was merged into one forum (as they are similar anyway), 9 threads looks more active and kind of gives them more of a reason to post. No one likes posting in dead sections / forums.

Seriously get some better skins. CHF have amazing ones. Like I said, some members were willing to make them, so why not listen and get it done and uploaded.

And what a surprise, the same people are posting in feedback again.

[Hecktix]

Sure. ;)

First PM: We have rules at HabboxForum to ensure that each post is of a good quality, rather than just spam/rubbish/unconstructive.

Second PM: This is no longer against the graphics rules.

Third & Fourth PM: We now have a double post merger which automatically merges posts within the 15 minute edit period, therefore PMs no longer get sent, although what is the point in double posting when you could just edit :P

[JACKTARD]

I'm going out a lot and I socialise in the staff threads mainly where my posts aren't counted sadly :'(

but yeah I do post in the forum quite a lot, more than I used to anyways.

[triston220]

First PM: We have rules at HabboxForum to ensure that each post is of a good quality, rather than just spam/rubbish/unconstructive.

Second PM: This is no longer against the graphics rules.

Third & Fourth PM: We now have a double post merger which automatically merges posts within the 15 minute edit period, therefore PMs no longer get sent, although what is the point in double posting when you could just edit :P

First: It was expressing emotion. :P

Second: That's good.

Third: That's cool, but if they are merged anyway, why the need for formal warning when there is a note on the post anyway.

[Tintinnabulate]

Back in 2006, Seacat, JackHB and all admins used to post a lot.

Garion doesn't, Matt doesn't, Oli doesn't, Yoshi who?, brandon doesn't - no admin posts as much as the admins of 2006 - especially in Habbo sections. Most new members use the habbo sections and new members love replies from Admins.

Same goes for Super Moderators.

Another idea is to allow members to swap reputation for donor. Like if you collect xxx amount of rep, you can exchange that for a months donor. Would make people try and earn more rep.

[Hecktix]

First: It was expressing emotion. :P

Second: That's good.

Third: That's cool, but if they are merged anyway, why the need for formal warning when there is a note on the post anyway.

There is no need for a warning now they are merged :)

Saurav I think General and Forum Management post a hell of a lot more than previous Management and my post count has gone up 200 in 4 days, so I don't see how you can say I have not posted.

[dbgtz]

theres nothing different from other forums therefore new members don't come so yeah
and besides all the new members we get generally post stupidly

also I think making the graphics section stricter with the "you must criticise" or w.e it lacks posts, i know i complained in the past but thats really because of the fact its not enforced properly (imo, i wont go in depth to why)

the joke section died ever since there was the removal of post counting on it. That sentance was worded badly.

try advertising more maybe on hxl or something.

[Tintinnabulate]

There is no need for a warning now they are merged :)

Saurav I think General and Forum Management post a hell of a lot more than previous Management and my post count has gone up 200 in 4 days, so I don't see how you can say I have not posted.

You might post in one go, but in general over a longer period there its less than 2006 admins. Also any comments on my previous post please?

[Becca]

Some people are not around Habbox anymore that brought excitement to Habbox, plus there hasn't been many exciting threads and everyone has changed.

[triston220]

There is no need for a warning now they are merged :)

Saurav I think General and Forum Management post a hell of a lot more than previous Management and my post count has gone up 200 in 4 days, so I don't see how you can say I have not posted.

I just get the felling some staff are a bit strict and it make me want to stay away from HxF.

[Eckuii]

For me I think its the fact that people get offended too easily. And if you offend somebody on this forum who has a coloured name becuase they are staff, all the Managers back them to the hilt.

Not only that but all the AGM and GM are too closely linked and are so biased towards the managers of this forum. Just because your make the rules, doesn't mean your above them. I think that the management should take their head out of their arse.

[Matthew]

theres nothing different from other forums therefore new members don't come so yeah
and besides all the new members we get generally post stupidly

also I think making the graphics section stricter with the "you must criticise" or w.e it lacks posts, i know i complained in the past but thats really because of the fact its not enforced properly (imo, i wont go in depth to why)

the joke section died ever since there was the removal of post counting on it. That sentance was worded badly.

try advertising more maybe on hxl or something.
i agree with the last bit, lost of new people learn of habboxlive because they like to go to the party room and 'dance' with the dj in parties and things, and if the dj was to say 'join me on habboxforum.com' or w/e them im sure a lot of them would follow the dj.

i certainly didnt know of the forum when i tuned into habboxlive to 'rave' (:P)
i only learnt of it when my friend suggested i go on because there was a comp to win 5hc (back when they were 14c each) so i was pulled in by the thought of winning 5hc.

so i think you need to advertise hxf / competitions more on the radio :)

[Hecktix]

Rosie, thats a silly reason. Summer leads to higher posts.



Even if one member sticks around from it, its worth it.



In which case referral competition which I suggested in my thread yesterday would be beneficial.



This.

The rules are wayyy too strict in regards to whats rude and what isn't. Calling someone pathetic on the internet because they contradict themselves to look right and getting a infraction is stupid.
Half the people in my thread said they aren't offended as its the internet.

I just took a look and over half said they would be offended.

Not allowing links to some sites in spam in case its advertising is stupid. Everything should be allowed in spam except porn, blatant rudeness etc.

It's never been a problem before.

I have said time and time again, Habbo has moved on and become less strict while Habbox has stayed behind.

Habbo less strict?? Hmm...

Graham said the forums clogged up - in which case my previous thread would make index much much shorter and make the forums look active.

He commented on the two announcements categories, which you suggested - I don't think there's harm in seeing how long it lasts but apart from this and maybe some changes to the Games/Entertainment forums I can't see any other plausible changes that would benefit our index.

If someone looks in 3 similar forums and sees 3 threads each, they will think its dead. However if it was merged into one forum (as they are similar anyway), 9 threads looks more active and kind of gives them more of a reason to post. No one likes posting in dead sections / forums.

Seriously get some better skins. CHF have amazing ones. Like I said, some members were willing to make them, so why not listen and get it done and uploaded.

We will soon have the new Site Skin in accordance with HxV6.

And what a surprise, the same people are posting in feedback again.


In bold.

[Eckuii]

Oli, if you want to know why people post less, then just look at the reply you gave above to Saurav. Particularly this part,

"I have said time and time again, Habbo has moved on and become less strict while Habbox has stayed behind.

Habbo less strict?? Hmm.."

Your reply here is unhelpful. You are meant to relate to the forum users, not reply in such an unconstructive way. Atleast mention ways in which Habboxforum is less strict than Habbo. You have made this thread to give suggestions, atleast have the aptitude to reply to the people who are trying to help you.

[Tintinnabulate]

In bold.


It's never been a problem before.

Err there was a huge argument over links not being allowed. A silly rule was suddenly enforced when you re-created the thread. Allow all links, even if the member is advertising in SPAM. So yes, it has been a problem and you are making Spam way too strict.


Habbo less strict?? Hmm...

In terms of allowing swearing etc. Although I do not want the filter disabled, Habbo are less strict in general - although their staff do make stupid decisions sometimes.

[Hecktix]

Oli, if you want to know why people post less, then just look at the reply you gave above to Saurav. Particularly this part,

"I have said time and time again, Habbo has moved on and become less strict while Habbox has stayed behind.

Habbo less strict?? Hmm.."

Your reply here is unhelpful. You are meant to relate to the forum users, not reply in such an unconstructive way. Atleast mention ways in which Habboxforum is less strict than Habbo. You have made this thread to give suggestions, atleast have the aptitude to reply to the people who are trying to help you.

I apologise if it came across that way, but what I mean is that Habbo isn't less strict than anything, their moderation is appalling and they ban people for anything and everything.

Saurav, no rule was created regarding posting links, it was always already there, as posted by Seacat in 2006.

[Tintinnabulate]

Oli, if you want to know why people post less, then just look at the reply you gave above to Saurav. Particularly this part,

"I have said time and time again, Habbo has moved on and become less strict while Habbox has stayed behind.

Habbo less strict?? Hmm.."

Your reply here is unhelpful. You are meant to relate to the forum users, not reply in such an unconstructive way. Atleast mention ways in which Habboxforum is less strict than Habbo. You have made this thread to give suggestions, atleast have the aptitude to reply to the people who are trying to help you.

Very well put. I have -repped Oli for similar things before and he has fixed his post instantly afterwards though, but its something I guess he needs to improve on.

[Blinger$]

Relax the moderation, don't be so strict. Allow more words with the filter, like that 4chan crap that was happening before!

Relax the filter as in allow us to say "bull****" instead of it being "********". We aren't 10 year olds, so stop treating us like that :O

[Tintinnabulate]

I apologise if it came across that way, but what I mean is that Habbo isn't less strict than anything, their moderation is appalling and they ban people for anything and everything.

Saurav, no rule was created regarding posting links, it was always already there, as posted by Seacat in 2006.

Yes but it was about mass spamming. When you re-posted it, it was enforced in the wrong way. I dont understand why I cant advertise my website in Spam when it does no harm. Yes I can post in the Show off your websites section, but I use that for reviews rather than blatant advertising etc.

[Hecktix]

Yes but it was about mass spamming. When you re-posted it, it was enforced in the wrong way. I dont understand why I cant advertise my website in Spam when it does no harm. Yes I can post in the Show off your websites section, but I use that for reviews rather than blatant advertising etc.

It was never about mass spamming, spam has never been permitted to be used for advertising.

[Blinger$]

In bold.
it says "we will have the new site skin".. does anyone use it? i sure as hell don't because its ugly. Its almost embarrassing to use HXF these days because of the lack of good skins.

[Tintinnabulate]

It was never about mass spamming, spam has never been permitted to be used for advertising.

Before you created the thread again, I have posted links to my sites a million times, especially during when I had rapidlinks, I was not warned a single time. What is the problem in me just posting a link to a site? :S One thread once in a while does no harm. Yes if I made a thread on it everyday, I can understand but not allowed to do it is silly :S It's spam.

[xxMATTGxx]

It was never about mass spamming, spam has never been permitted to be used for advertising.


To add on to what Oli has already said. We do not have a spam section for users to advertise their websites or advertise so it benefits them in any way, there is other sections around the forum that can be used for this. One being "Show Off Your Website", as Oli has already pointed it out it has not be permitted for a very long time.

[Hecktix]

Before you created the thread again, I have posted links to my sites a million times, especially during when I had rapidlinks, I was not warned a single time. What is the problem in me just posting a link to a site? :S One thread once in a while does no harm. Yes if I made a thread on it everyday, I can understand but not allowed to do it is silly :S It's spam.

I've seen threads of yours about your site in spam and a lot of them weren't advertising but linking to something useful/funny.

[Tintinnabulate]

For me I think its the fact that people get offended too easily. And if you offend somebody on this forum who has a coloured name becuase they are staff, all the Managers back them to the hilt.

Not only that but all the AGM and GM are too closely linked and are so biased towards the managers of this forum. Just because your make the rules, doesn't mean your above them. I think that the management should take their head out of their arse.

I disagree that they are closely linked - they may look it but they aren't. However I agree that they are biased and "should take their head out of their arse." - that comment goes for most of the managers. I think its obvious who they are.

[Blinger$]

also (i probably am being ignored, but i dont mind), the mods/admins etc are way too protective of each other. If you say that so and so does a bad job, every single person says "NO THEY DONT THEY ARE DOING IT PROPA"... ;l

[Special]

For me I think its the fact that people get offended too easily. And if you offend somebody on this forum who has a coloured name becuase they are staff, all the Managers back them to the hilt.

Not only that but all the AGM and GM are too closely linked and are so biased towards the managers of this forum. Just because your make the rules, doesn't mean your above them. I think that the management should take their head out of their arse.

very well said i couldn't agree more

also, this thread is a prefect example of what is going wrong - i'll try to explain

when staff open threads like this asking us what needs improving, we give suggestions & all staff seem to do (especially Oli in this case) is knock most suggestions down & throw them out of the window. we're trying to help you here - if you don't like a particular suggestion simply ignor it & don't get sarcastic & rude because you don't agree with it. no wonder no one wants to post...


as well as this, it's been said many times in this thread - moderators are too strict

here is an example of a warning i received recently:


Dear Special,

You have received a warning at Habbox Forum.

Reason:
-------
Inappropriate Content

You have received a warning on Habboxforum because a recent thread/post you made is deemed as breaking the rules. In this post you posted a video which is unsuitable for people under the age of 18 - the film itself is 18+ for a reason. The videos you posted contains gory images and even though you did warn users and put it in a spoiler this is still not acceptable as it is still 18+. This video also tricks user into being scared.

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p.s turn the volume up you can hardly hear the voice at the beginning ;)


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Habbox Forum i clearly stated that the video contained unsuitable images & included a spoiler ...yet still recieved a warning

not only that, she also mentioned it's against the rules to post a fake video - i didn't know at the times it was fake, but even so no where in the rules does it say you arn't

[Tintinnabulate]

I've seen threads of yours about your site in spam and a lot of them weren't advertising but linking to something useful/funny.

Yes but before you started enforcing the rule, it was allowed to just post a link and ask users what they think. Spam is more relaxed. If someone posts in spam and not a specific forum, its for a reason. If I want proper reviews, I post in Show off your website. For just general chat, I post in Spam.

[Hecktix]

Can I just remind you that this thread is for suggestions and not the slagging off of staff etc, if you think staff need to improve then please state how :)

Saurav, I don't mind you posting in spam asking people what they think as long as you arent blatently advertising, in my eyes asking opinions isn't advertising.

[Tintinnabulate]

Can I just remind you that this thread is for suggestions and not the slagging off of staff etc, if you think staff need to improve then please state how :)

Eveyone who has slagged off staff in this thread has stated how.

---------- Post added 22-07-2010 at 08:38 PM ----------

What do you think of the idea I posted earlier in this thread:


Another idea is to allow members to swap reputation for donor. Like if you collect xxx amount of rep, you can exchange that for a months donor. Would make people try and earn more rep.

---------- Post added 22-07-2010 at 08:39 PM ----------

Oh and do a mass un-ban.

[Matthew]

Eveyone who has slagged off staff in this thread has stated how.

---------- Post added 22-07-2010 at 08:38 PM ----------

What do you think of the idea I posted earlier in this thread:
i like the idea, itll encourage people to post more to earn the rep, and they would be rewarded for it, making them want to continue posting to get the reward again :]

[Hecktix]

Hmm, it does make a lot of sense although donator is vital to running costs so I don't know if people would stop buying it, but then again I suppose if you made it a reasonably high rep number then that wouldn't matter, what sort of figures were you thinking?

[Matthew]

Hmm, it does make a lot of sense although donator is vital to running costs so I don't know if people would stop buying it, but then again I suppose if you made it a reasonably high rep number then that wouldn't matter, what sort of figures were you thinking?
i would say 400? something like that

[Alexx..]

I don't post much is because Infractions/Warnings are given out too easily and people can't barely take a joke anymore. Also, the lack of new members but when new members do join they're mostly annoying kids. Also, the lack of posts that i can answer etc, most of its in spam and pointless s***.

[xxMATTGxx]

Back in 2006, Seacat, JackHB and all admins used to post a lot.

Garion doesn't, Matt doesn't, Oli doesn't, Yoshi who?, brandon doesn't - no admin posts as much as the admins of 2006 - especially in Habbo sections. Most new members use the habbo sections and new members love replies from Admins.

Same goes for Super Moderators.

Another idea is to allow members to swap reputation for donor. Like if you collect xxx amount of rep, you can exchange that for a months donor. Would make people try and earn more rep.

I think I post quite a bit around the forums. Although I will admit I do not post enough in the Habbo sections of the forum and this is something I will look at and try and improve that, but I do my best to post elsewhere.

@Mass Unbannings:

It's something that has been discussed and it's something that won't be happening. Most of the bans now a days are pretty fair why they are banned for a number of reasons. Whether that is breaking the forum rules, being a bot or just being generally on the autoban list. I understand some people would like their old accounts back but if they want them back that much then surely they shouldn't of broken the rules in the first place?

[Blinger$]

I don't post much is because Infractions/Warnings are given out too easily and people can't barely take a joke anymore. Also, the lack of new members but when new members do join they're mostly annoying kids. Also, the lack of posts that i can answer etc, most of its in spam and pointless s***.
lucky this is feedback and you are allowed to avoid the filter here...

[Tintinnabulate]

I think I post quite a bit around the forums. Although I will admit I do not post enough in the Habbo sections of the forum and this is something I will look at and try and improve that, but I do my best to post elsewhere.

@Mass Unbannings:

It's something that has been discussed and it's something that won't be happening. Most of the bans now a days are pretty fair why they are banned for a number of reasons. Whether that is breaking the forum rules, being a bot or just being generally on the autoban list. I understand some people would like their old accounts back but if they want them back that much then surely they shouldn't of broken the rules in the first place?

People learn from their mistakes.

[Hecktix]

On the topic of old bans though, I must say that if anybody was permanently banned 3, 4 or 5 years ago then it may be worth appealing your ban as a lot of older bans do get overturned nowadays :)

[Blinger$]

I think I post quite a bit around the forums. Although I will admit I do not post enough in the Habbo sections of the forum and this is something I will look at and try and improve that, but I do my best to post elsewhere.

@Mass Unbannings:

It's something that has been discussed and it's something that won't be happening. Most of the bans now a days are pretty fair why they are banned for a number of reasons. Whether that is breaking the forum rules, being a bot or just being generally on the autoban list. I understand some people would like their old accounts back but if they want them back that much then surely they shouldn't of broken the rules in the first place?
that is why i don't post as much anymore (i really only post on thursday/fridays)

[flatface]

I really like the idea that Sav suggested, swapping reputation for donator or even VIP. It would get people to post as well as making the reputation system useful and competitive.

[Hecktix]

Another idea I want to throw out there, should we move Post a Picture of You back to spam?

[xxMATTGxx]

that is why i don't post as much anymore (i really only post on thursday/fridays)

It will depend on how old your ban is. If you look at Oli's post, he has mentioned if it's something like 3 years ago then appeal and see, some do get overturned. It does depend on certain circumstances though.


On the topic of old bans though, I must say that if anybody was permanently banned 3, 4 or 5 years ago then it may be worth appealing your ban as a lot of older bans do get overturned nowadays :)

[j0rd]

I seem to post more in the staff threads then the main forum threads.
Also, as its summer most people are going out rather than getting stuck in on the computer.
I also think that you should get habboxlive to advertise the forums abit more and do more of their competitions based on the forums.

[Tintinnabulate]

Another idea I want to throw out there, should we move Post a Picture of You back to spam?

Was the forum its in now had its permission changed so Guests cannot see it and thus cannot see the photos?

[Alkaz]

Another idea I want to throw out there, should we move Post a Picture of You back to spam?
Yeh I don't normally see people commenting on the lighting etc of peoples pictures.

[Special]

Another idea I want to throw out there, should we move Post a Picture of You back to spam?


...no? that's obviously going to make less people post their picture because of the post count they'll be missing out on

[Blinger$]

...no? that's obviously going to make less people post their picture because of the post count they'll be missing out on
i don't agree. people will post just as much as before imo

[Special]

i don't agree. people will post just as much as before imo

but what other benefits will it offer?

[Hecktix]

Was the forum its in now had its permission changed so Guests cannot see it and thus cannot see the photos?

Yeah but you could easily do that to spam too :P Or perhaps we could have a pictures section (dare I say it) like CHF?

The main reason PAPOY was moved in the first place was to avoid arguments as it often got heated.

[Describe]

Doesn't the same occur to most popular forums? The people who posted the most was the older users and most of them are growing up and moving on with their lives, not many (those in there twenties) older members care for Habboxforum and so they've stopped posted; thus the sudden decrease. It might begin to rise however as schools across Britain have closed for the summer holidays, I reckon you'll see a (very)slight increase in activity.

Competitions seem popular. The community should have more to do as a whole therefore more competitions spread across the genres of Habboxforum (sport, graphics, technology) should be put in place. You might come up with the argument "not enough to give out as prizes" but giving out reputation as a prize form hasn't ever really been a problem and that seems just as popular, especially with those who don't participate in Habbo.

[Hecktix]

When I was a Super Moderator, or maybe AFM I can't remember I had an idea for moderators to do competitions/quizzes in the sections they moderate - it was knocked back by former General Management though. What do you think of this idea?

[Blinger$]

but what other benefits will it offer?
There will be more posts because you don't have to say "OMG I LUV DA COLOR OF UR HAIR" even if you don't. you can go slightly off topic without being infracted.. obviously there would be rules on how far of topic you can go..

[Tintinnabulate]

Yeah but you could easily do that to spam too :P Or perhaps we could have a pictures section (dare I say it) like CHF?

The main reason PAPOY was moved in the first place was to avoid arguments as it often got heated.

You want to hide spam from public view? Are you crazy?

[Special]

When I was a Super Moderator, or maybe AFM I can't remember I had an idea for moderators to do competitions/quizzes in the sections they moderate - it was knocked back by former General Management though. What do you think of this idea?

i like it, however the moderators might argue they are simply moderators & not competiton staff

[Hecktix]

There will be more posts because you don't have to say "OMG I LUV DA COLOR OF UR HAIR" even if you don't. you can go slightly off topic without being infracted.. obviously there would be rules on how far of topic you can go..

Well actually, there wouldn't be rules on how far off topic you can go, and that's really why it was moved to spam because generally it was "User posts a pic" 10 PAGES OF SPAM "user posts another pic" :P

It often led to arguments which wasn't good :( What do people think about a pictures section rather than a thread?

@ Special, they love me so they'll do it if I ask them nicely (A) (or threaten them ;l)

[Blinger$]

removed.

[Describe]

When I was a Super Moderator, or maybe AFM I can't remember I had an idea for moderators to do competitions/quizzes in the sections they moderate - it was knocked back by former General Management though. What do you think of this idea?
It's grand.

[Special]

There will be more posts because you don't have to say "OMG I LUV DA COLOR OF UR HAIR" even if you don't. you can go slightly off topic without being infracted.. obviously there would be rules on how far of topic you can go..

but that would bring further hassle for just one thread. spam has a set rules like any forum & it would confuse people if you kept changing the rules for specific threads

also people would be saying 'if that forum has specific rules then i want my thread to have specific rules' & escalate from there

(sorry double posted by accident, i thought it would auto merge but guess not :|)

[flatface]

Enable post count in spam x

[Mr-Trainor]

When I was a Super Moderator, or maybe AFM I can't remember I had an idea for moderators to do competitions/quizzes in the sections they moderate - it was knocked back by former General Management though. What do you think of this idea?
Personally I think it's a good idea. Definately worth a try, anyway :)

[nvrspk4]

I would say its a lack of Habbo focus. I know for a long time the forumers were always agitating for more insulation from Habbo, understandable because many forum users no longer used Habbo. But the hotel is our source of new members, a large percentage of our members come from the hotel. I think that the forum started gravitating away (and this didn't start with you, it's been going on for a long time, but it has continued) from Habbo and is not bringing in enough new users from the hotel.

We were also thinking about the problem that we don't have enough of a Habbo presence when I was GM, I'm not suggesting the events team is not doing their job, it seems that they are holding events but Habbo outreach needs to be increased - a lot. As much as a lot of people scorn Habbo users as immature, they're what end up keeping the forum alive. Plus those immature users end up learning how to communicate with vowels and without zs everywhere and become useful members of the community, a lot of us started off as noobs *cough*

[hah]

Whatever I say would be wrong as far as you are concerned. Once school is out then yes the posts will rise but until then there are lots on holiday.


On a more constructive note what about a referral comp?

No its not, you just suggest something which is silly and people agreed with me. stop trying to make out like im targeting you babe.


OLI I LOVE THE IDEA OF A POST A PIC FORUM plz
also maybe you could get rid of elite gxfs and maybe gxfs section all together.... and just have a forum in general section for it and cut down forums like cars and hoildays :S how odd is it that they are with each other

also i dont see why people who dont stick around get vip when there are people who stick around and dont win it... Happylife12 or something got given vip posted once and came back once since she was given it... whats the point in giving it to members who dont even bother with the forum.


i agree with joshs idea 100% lol

[Nicola]

When I was a Super Moderator, or maybe AFM I can't remember I had an idea for moderators to do competitions/quizzes in the sections they moderate - it was knocked back by former General Management though. What do you think of this idea?

I quite like this idea actually and I don't see what harm a few light competitions would do.


i like it, however the moderators might argue they are simply moderators & not competiton staff

Nah I don't think we would. I think the team would be quite up for it tbh.

[Cosmic]

When I was a Super Moderator, or maybe AFM I can't remember I had an idea for moderators to do competitions/quizzes in the sections they moderate - it was knocked back by former General Management though. What do you think of this idea?

I like this idea. It might help to improve relations between members and moderators.


i like it, however the moderators might argue they are simply moderators & not competiton staff

I sort of agree with this. I think this kind of argument can be avoided if the competitions aren't too grand as it wouldn't be fair to take away from the actual competitions department.

I think the reason why there hasn't been as many posts is simply due to the summer; a lot of people are out. I also think that there is a lack of newer members because Habbox(Forum) isn't advertised well enough within Habbo. Fair enough, there's events and HxHD but it seems to stop there. Hopefully it'll pick up again soon though.

[hah]

this should apply to people who posts pics

Everybody is entitled to an opinion. By submitting pictures here, you do so of your own free will and you should most certainly not feel forced. By submitting a picture or pictures, you must be prepared for user comments –– complimentary or critical –– and providing those comments don't break the forum rules, action won't be taken against them.

[Hecktix]

I would say its a lack of Habbo focus. I know for a long time the forumers were always agitating for more insulation from Habbo, understandable because many forum users no longer used Habbo. But the hotel is our source of new members, a large percentage of our members come from the hotel. I think that the forum started gravitating away (and this didn't start with you, it's been going on for a long time, but it has continued) from Habbo and is not bringing in enough new users from the hotel.

We were also thinking about the problem that we don't have enough of a Habbo presence when I was GM, I'm not suggesting the events team is not doing their job, it seems that they are holding events but Habbo outreach needs to be increased - a lot. As much as a lot of people scorn Habbo users as immature, they're what end up keeping the forum alive. Plus those immature users end up learning how to communicate with vowels and without zs everywhere and become useful members of the community, a lot of us started off as noobs *cough*

Yeah I think you've pretty much hit the nail on the head really there, I was asked a question the other day by a new member wondering why they were a "Gold Member" and as a "forum newb" shouldn't they have a "low" status - my answer would be that newbs aren't of a lower status to HabboxForum because these noobs are what make the forum, these noobs are the future of Habbox.

I do agree that on Habbo we need to reach out more, which is quite annoying really because I feel we were getting somewhere before Habbo went and bloody merged, we had a lot of members sign up towards the start of the year and stick around and keep posting, these guys may not have join dates of this year but people like RNB.Queen, ,xHollie (sorry if that's wrong) and MakeAWishx - three people who have all won Member of the Month this year, and registered this year and they all came from that first quarter.

Hopefully with Habbox's Summer Events we will be able to attract Habbo users, the Habbox Summer Spectacular often does that, Dogboy123 said earlier that he signed up for HxSS 2008 for instance.

[Judas]

personally i think habbox is too grown up

most members of management are quite old and they take habbox too seriously and it just isnt fun. people who play habbo are usually quite young and play it to have fun. for example an average 12 year old would come and look at this thread and read the first page and be bored out of their mind.

the forum just isnt fun, its ran too much like a business and is really strict. it used to be way better when i was younger but everyone who is on the forum that used to be has grown up and habbox has grown with it, and its making it harder for younger people to join in and get involved because its too mature.

[lTraditional]

The main reason is that most people don't have time while they are at school or working but while the summer holidays are comming up for me and other people aswell then we should have more posts because I will have loads more time. The forum isn't as unique as other forums tbh it is like what is the point in posting. Maybe there could be like a points system and for each post they make they earn 1 point and you will get some forum goodies. To me, that will make me want to post on the forum as a challenge to get the reward! Also, even though there are many badges for getting like 1000 posts, maybe badges for getting 100 posts in 1 day or week? Then, that will motivate me to get that reward!

[Blinger$]

what if a section of the community (those good at javascript mainly) make a greasemonkey extension for hxf that would let you choose what to display and what not to display. Some ideas I had were


An image uploader below the quick reply/reply box
A shoutbox held on an external server (i'm sure someone would host one/use a free one somewhere)
Give an option to hide the events panel/icon legend etc (just useless stuff)

probably more but i cant think of any. OBVIOUSLY it wouldn't be compulsory to use because yeh.

[Mark]

I think its because theres nothing new at HxF. There is not much interaction on this forum. For example theres nothing for Staff and HxF members to get involved with anything. I also think that for new members it may be quite scary posting in such a large forum as this. They may need to feel a bit more welcome. So maybe if there is a dedicated section for New Members etc. Also there has been a lot of people leaving habbo because of the merge and a lot of people who did post around the forum have grown up and just naturally left. Hope this helped :)

[hah]

its too big (as in forums) and new members dont know where to start and dont bother i think

[Eckuii]

personally i think habbox is too grown up

most members of management are quite old and they take habbox too seriously and it just isnt fun. people who play habbo are usually quite young and play it to have fun. for example an average 12 year old would come and look at this thread and read the first page and be bored out of their mind.

the forum just isnt fun, its ran too much like a business and is really strict. it used to be way better when i was younger but everyone who is on the forum that used to be has grown up and habbox has grown with it, and its making it harder for younger people to join in and get involved because its too mature.

I totally agree with you here. When Seacat was on the forum, he was only 16 and probably younger when he became General Mangement. I was around 13-14 when I became assistant forum manager. Things werent so serious back then. Now such things as peoples language on this forum winds me up. That is why I dont post so much. I am only on this forum temporary as well :)

[hah]

omg lol ur right
garions language is a bit over the top sometimes lol
i dont understand him half the time/he could have wrote it simpler lol

[Eckuii]

Another thing is exactly what Nvrspk4 said. When I moderated this forum I always wanted to moderate Habbo Uk News and Rumours and that is the only forum I moderated because it was just so popular. Most people that moderated that forum went on to become Forum Super Moderators becuase they had to be the most active.

[Tintinnabulate]

Another thing is exactly what Nvrspk4 said. When I moderated this forum I always wanted to moderate Habbo Uk News and Rumours and that is the only forum I moderated because it was just so popular. Most people that moderated that forum went on to become Forum Super Moderators becuase they had to be the most active.

I moderated Trading and Graphics and I became Smod? :P

[Jordy]

I think things such as the Habbox Elections were successful, certainly got the community together and got people posting, that was very beneficial. I've no doubt the summer spectacular will be once again when that gets going. They need more major events like this as I've no doubt these are good for Habbox, the World Cup was a missed opportunity to get the community together. Releasing a bit of VIP and hiding away a World Cup Predictions add-on didn't really do much. The predictions add-on was terribly publicised and I only found out about it towards the end of the World Cup. Things like Big Brother and next top model though are a waste of time in my opinion, they're not remotely interesting and I wouldn't deem them as successful.

Now for the reasons why I'm not posting as much, sadly I don't have any suggestions on how to improve this but more links with the Habbo community would work and possibly a loosening up of rules.

Technology Discussion - There is very little debate there these days or people asking for proper computer help. It's just people saying crap like "what phone should i get" etc, there used to be newbies with quite complicated issues which always used to be fun to work out I thought, or some decent nerd debates, these seem to have gone.

Discuss Anything - Perhaps a bit too early to speculate seeing as the crappy one-post threads have now been eliminated, however that doesn't mean that interesting threads will return to the forum, there's little decent discussion there.

Current Affairs - Pretty much everything has been debated there and it's the same old **** from the same old people constantly, tired of it.

May I also add, I said the merge would be the start of the downfall of Habbox so I'm just going to bask in being right as always.

[itsMIKEYY]

PERSONALLY, it's just because I don't have a great deal of interest in Habbo anymore, and therefore not as much interest in HxF as I used to have. I still come on the forum as much as I used to and check the new posts AT LEAST once a day, but there isn't really any threads that interest me, and i find that the information i used to come onto HxF for i can now find on Habbo groups, like quest answers and ways to get quick simple badges etc. I'll post a bit more and start a couple of threads now and then, as i feel it would be a shame to let the HxF down as some members have a sense of belonging to a community.

[Tintinnabulate]

Current Affairs - Pretty much everything has been debated there and it's the same old **** from the same old people constantly, tired of it.

I was saying exactly that to either Garion or Oli (can't remember which one) the other night. Its the same debates and same posts, getting boring now.

[Meanies]

disassociate the forum with habbo and have it a general forum


most existing users have established a group of friends on the forum, new users coming in will find it hard to fit into these groups and probably just give up straight away

[hah]

im always open to new forum friends as long as they are fit/skinny l ol

also your mods dont really get involved at all... maybe id like them more if they did and werent so annoying and gay (the happy way lol)

the mods seem alright until they get smod

i think dannzo scott and orangeshhh (rip) are great mods lol
they are so laid back

[danzooo]

I genuinely reckon it's the severe lack of new members who stick around and become permenant members of the forum, seeing as a lot of older members are obviously getting older and a habbo related forum is no longer of their interest. I reckon some form of incentive for new members to encourage them to stay should maybe be implemented???

[Blinger$]

im always open to new forum friends as long as they are fit/skinny l ol

also your mods dont really get involved at all... maybe id like them more if they did and werent so annoying and gay (the happy way lol)

the mods seem alright until they get smod

i think dannzo scott and orangeshhh (rip) are great mods lol
they are so laid back
You'd like them more if they were grumpy :S?

[myke]

there should be a feel of equality amongst members, i know there are plenty of members that feel left out.
im not one of them, i stick to my gfx forum and tahts about it so yeah

but i will say the moderation is gd now :-]

[Catzsy]

The main reason is that most people don't have time while they are at school or working but while the summer holidays are comming up for me and other people aswell then we should have more posts because I will have loads more time. The forum isn't as unique as other forums tbh it is like what is the point in posting. Maybe there could be like a points system and for each post they make they earn 1 point and you will get some forum goodies. To me, that will make me want to post on the forum as a challenge to get the reward! Also, even though there are many badges for getting like 1000 posts, maybe badges for getting 100 posts in 1 day or week? Then, that will motivate me to get that reward!

That is exactly what I said and I was told I was being silly but it's true. Lots of schools have their end of term exams, outings, social events etc.

Seems this thread has been focussing on what the old members want all the time it's the one new ones we should be looking at. Totally agree with nvr that we need to be more habbo orientated and as Oli said the SS should cater for that.

In the meanwhile:

1. Habbox has quite a furni store and yet the prizes are quite miniscule compared to some other forums and I feel we need to make it worthwhile for them to win competitions, events etc.
2. The lottery needs to come back - it was very popular.
3. Trade room if made popular could bring a lot of benefits to Habbox. A well known trade room is a constant source of new members. Perhaps staff could be encouraged to spend their time down there a lot until it doesn't need a lot of support. MP has it's place but I have noticed a lack of really good trade rooms.
4. Perhaps Oli could bring back the Q& A sessions which were pretty popular but use a 50 capacity room.
5. New Members reps? A bit radical but could there be a custom new members forum that only staff and new members reps had access to until they they have a certain number of posts? The advantage is that they get the right customer service and it is something that nobody else has as far as I know.
6. Hold competitions in each main forum actually tailored to them as Oli said but run by the Comps dept.
7. Hold a survey. List the questions but make the answers private.

[flatface]

im always open to new forum friends as long as they are fit/skinny l ol

also your mods dont really get involved at all... maybe id like them more if they did and werent so annoying and gay (the happy way lol)

the mods seem alright until they get smod

i think dannzo scott and orangeshhh (rip) are great mods lol
they are so laid back

Yeah I agree, scott and danzooo are really nice people... Those are the ones who need to be promoted to super moderators. For example I had a few questions to ask about something so I PM'd danzooo and he replied giving a lot of detail and was very helpful and came across as being very happy doing so.

[Hecktix]

That is exactly what I said and I was told I was being silly but it's true. Lots of schools have their end of term exams, outings, social events etc.

Seems this thread has been focussing on what the old members want all the time it's the one new ones we should be looking at. Totally agree with nvr that we need to be more habbo orientated and as Oli said the SS should cater for that.

In the meanwhile:

1. Habbox has quite a furni store and yet the prizes are quite miniscule compared to some other forums and I feel we need to make it worthwhile for them to win competitions, events etc.

I'm actually going to ask for an allowance for the forum, furni wise as I feel that there's only so much we can offer with VIP and rep, a lot of Habbo people will be interested in winning furni, and perhaps credits.

2. The lottery needs to come back - it was very popular.

I agree, the free lottery that 2hd. did was also very popular.

3. Trade room if made popular could bring a lot of benefits to Habbox. A well known trade room is a constant source of new members. Perhaps staff could be encouraged to spend their time down there a lot until it doesn't need a lot of support. MP has it's place but I have noticed a lack of really good trade rooms.

Danube has a good trade room, I do agree more staff should go down there, I've only been once myself although I don't use Habbo much - which isn't enough really.

4. Perhaps Oli could bring back the Q& A sessions which were pretty popular but use a 50 capacity room.

Tuesday, 7:30PM, it's a date?

5. New Members reps? A bit radical but could there be a custom new members forum that only staff and new members reps had access to until they they have a certain number of posts? The advantage is that they get the right customer service and it is something that nobody else has as far as I know.

I like this idea, a sort of "Meet & Greet the Staff of Habbox", anybody else got any thoughts on this?

6. Hold competitions in each main forum actually tailored to them as Oli said but run by the Comps dept.

There's no reason moderators couldn't do it like suggested earlier, I think it could do moderator-member relationships some good which is somethign I'm looking for.

7. Hold a survey. List the questions but make the answers private.

We even created a survey back in March when the forum was quiet but Sammeth was quite.. unsure of it - by the time he'd gone the forum had picked up again but it's certainly something to think of.

In bold Rosie :D

Josh, I think most moderators would PM you back with something like that we currently have a very strong team of normal moderators, they are all of an excellent standard, the Super Moderators are very good too.

[triston220]

I think there should be an option to buy lifetime VIP. If I had that I would like to stay on HxF.

[hah]

http://www.clubhabboforum.net/showthread.php?t=306654

tada
something like that

the last meet and great when so wrong
one staff members net got cut off and they put it off for a week or something :S

[Hecktix]

http://www.clubhabboforum.net/showthread.php?t=306654

tada
something like that

the last meet and great when so wrong
one staff members net got cut off and they proposed it for a week or something :S

I think Catzsy meant the Forum Meet & Greet, not the GM one, the forum one was really successful.

And yeah we had a survey like that set up, I'll see if I can refind it :)

[flatface]

In bold Rosie :D

Regarding the "Meet and Greet Staff of Habbox". I don't really like that name, I think members should be able to become reps (like Rosie said). It shouldn't just be staff as to be quite frank, as a new member I would like to meet and greet with other members, mainly due to the fact that it would be nice to make 'friends' with other members and not just staff.

I think the idea Catzsy suggested is really good, having member reps and another forum only viewable to them and new members is a great way of making people feel welcome and being able to ask other members questions. I think it would be good if these reps were not staff and are seen as members, just like any other member.

[buttons]

not even going in to detail, i don't even care what you do. you push away all the active members.
it's most definitely double standards, don't even say i'm only saying it because i get infracted/banned often. my point is members who are "known" for having a bad reputation in terms of bullying, their posts automatically get dealt with even if they're innocent. i think my reversed infractions speak for themselves, no? plus some of us can actually take a joke! i don't report people who use "scottish" as an insult but apparently i'm racist for calling canadians ugly.

it's like you only see the bad things people say and disregard anything else. if you didn't notice a lot of 'e-rebels' make the threads suggesting where you go wrong.

why don't you just deal with posts that are OBVIOUSLY rude to someone or ones that are actually reported?!? like i say "**** off stop being a sheep", he doesn't report it (apparently) because he doesn't mind. can you not just deal with the posts that are offending people instead of looking at who the members are and their past?

oh yeah, the "report your infractions" thread is ridiculous. just LET us reply there instead of making us do it in support:S it's actually seriously annoying when you get a reply "please don't continue to post in this thread:)". it's so patronizing and it makes us look even more like troublemakers :rolleyes:

& lmao at suggesting putting post a pic back to spam, we argued AGAINST it being moved in the first place for ages and for the clubhabbo having photobooth, i personally wouldn't want a section where you post a thread dedicated to just yourself >.> not a lot of people would do it especially not new people.

and get rid of the image verification could you?

[xxMATTGxx]

I think things such as the Habbox Elections were successful, certainly got the community together and got people posting, that was very beneficial. I've no doubt the summer spectacular will be once again when that gets going. They need more major events like this as I've no doubt these are good for Habbox, the World Cup was a missed opportunity to get the community together. Releasing a bit of VIP and hiding away a World Cup Predictions add-on didn't really do much. The predictions add-on was terribly publicised and I only found out about it towards the end of the World Cup. Things like Big Brother and next top model though are a waste of time in my opinion, they're not remotely interesting and I wouldn't deem them as successful.

Now for the reasons why I'm not posting as much, sadly I don't have any suggestions on how to improve this but more links with the Habbo community would work and possibly a loosening up of rules.

Technology Discussion - There is very little debate there these days or people asking for proper computer help. It's just people saying crap like "what phone should i get" etc, there used to be newbies with quite complicated issues which always used to be fun to work out I thought, or some decent nerd debates, these seem to have gone.


Yeah the Tech Discussion is so not what it used to be. So many great members have left the forum who were regular posters in there and then there is also the issue with not many posting any good threads and what not. Although it can be quite good proving other people wrong from time to time, I miss how it used to be. Do you think there is anything we could do to get it good again? :(


Discuss Anything - Perhaps a bit too early to speculate seeing as the crappy one-post threads have now been eliminated, however that doesn't mean that interesting threads will return to the forum, there's little decent discussion there.

Current Affairs - Pretty much everything has been debated there and it's the same old **** from the same old people constantly, tired of it.

I agree, most of it is all about people being "Anti-EU" and "Anti-EU this and that" and whatever else. :P

May I also add, I said the merge would be the start of the downfall of Habbox so I'm just going to bask in being right as always.

I agree that Habbo has also had an impact on our userbase and activity. There is other issues also but I do think this is one of them, most likely due to the merge and also how Habbo has changed quite a lot over the years and maybe this ha pushed users away. I know many members on this forum don't play habbo at all or very hardly but I don't think it would be wise of us to be a full on "General Forum". :P



Some of my comments in bold.

[Hecktix]

Regarding the "Meet and Greet Staff of Habbox". I don't really like that name, I think members should be able to become reps (like Rosie said). It shouldn't just be staff as to be quite frank, as a new member I would like to meet and greet with other members, mainly due to the fact that it would be nice to make 'friends' with other members and not just staff.

I think the idea Catzsy suggested is really good, having member reps and another forum only viewable to them and new members is a great way of making people feel welcome and being able to ask other members questions. I think it would be good if these reps were not staff and are seen as members, just like any other member.

A sort of, welcome committee?

[hah]

not even going in to detail, i don't even care what you do. you push away all the active members.
it's most definitely double standards, don't even say i'm only saying it because i get infracted/banned often. my point is members who are "known" for having a bad reputation in terms of bullying, their posts automatically get dealt with even if they're innocent. i think my reversed infractions speak for themselves, no? plus some of us can actually take a joke! i don't report people who use "scottish" as an insult but apparently i'm racist for calling canadians ugly.

it's like you only see the bad things people say and disregard anything else. if you didn't notice a lot of 'e-rebels' make the threads suggesting where you go wrong.

why don't you just deal with posts that are OBVIOUSLY rude to someone or ones that are actually reported?!? like i say "**** off stop being a sheep", he doesn't report it (apparently) because he doesn't mind. can you not just deal with the posts that are offending people instead of looking at who the members are and their past?

oh yeah, the "report your infractions" thread is ridiculous. just LET us reply there instead of making us do it in support:S it's actually seriously annoying when you get a reply "please don't continue to post in this thread:)". it's so patronizing and it makes us look even more like troublemakers :rolleyes:

& lmao at suggesting putting post a pic back to spam, we argued AGAINST it being moved in the first place for ages and for the clubhabbo having photobooth, i personally wouldn't want a section where you post a thread dedicated to just yourself >.> not a lot of people would do it especially not new people.

and get rid of the image verification could you?

[2]
I really think the infraction limit should be raised
maybe to something like 20

i hardly come on or post because im so close to a perm ban for stupid reasons such as insulting someones sister lol?
and yous always seem to find a reason to keep infractions
hardly any get reversed now a days lol

[flatface]

not even going in to detail, i don't even care what you do. you push away all the active members.
it's most definitely double standards, don't even say i'm only saying it because i get infracted/banned often. my point is members who are "known" for having a bad reputation in terms of bullying, their posts automatically get dealt with even if they're innocent. i think my reversed infractions speak for themselves, no? plus some of us can actually take a joke! i don't report people who use "scottish" as an insult but apparently i'm racist for calling canadians ugly.

it's like you only see the bad things people say and disregard anything else. if you didn't notice a lot of 'e-rebels' make the threads suggesting where you go wrong.

why don't you just deal with posts that are OBVIOUSLY rude to someone or ones that are actually reported?!? like i say "**** off stop being a sheep", he doesn't report it (apparently) because he doesn't mind. can you not just deal with the posts that are offending people instead of looking at who the members are and their past?

oh yeah, the "report your infractions" thread is ridiculous. just LET us reply there instead of making us do it in support:S it's actually seriously annoying when you get a reply "please don't continue to post in this thread:)". it's so patronizing and it makes us look even more like troublemakers :rolleyes:

& lmao at suggesting putting post a pic back to spam, we argued AGAINST it being moved in the first place for ages and for the clubhabbo having photobooth, i personally wouldn't want a section where you post a thread dedicated to just yourself >.> not a lot of people would do it especially not new people.

and get rid of the image verification could you?

I 1000% agree with this, some super moderators and admin have a "i'm better then everyone else" attitude which is really rude and also very annoying.

[Catzsy]

Regarding the "Meet and Greet Staff of Habbox". I don't really like that name, I think members should be able to become reps (like Rosie said). It shouldn't just be staff as to be quite frank, as a new member I would like to meet and greet with other members, mainly due to the fact that it would be nice to make 'friends' with other members and not just staff.

I think the idea Catzsy suggested is really good, having member reps and another forum only viewable to them and new members is a great way of making people feel welcome and being able to ask other members questions. I think it would be good if these reps were not staff and are seen as members, just like any other member.

Well it could be a mixture as you would need some staff and admins.

[scottish]

stupids mods + kazopark = why the forum sucks

[flatface]

A sort of, welcome committee?

Yes, a smallish group of people who are willing to have a friendly chat to new members and also able to help them with using the forum and other questions they may want to ask. I think it sounds better coming from normal members rather then moderators, super moderators and admins.


Well it could be a mixture as you would need some staff and admins.

Why would you need admins? I think it would be great to include some staff such as EO's, radio DJ's, HxHD staff and non staff members. Non-managerial members primarily.

[Pyroka]

I think we should have another Habbox Council.

[scottish]

chances r ur gna be happier if one of the top members welcomes you instead of a random nobody with 10 post count^

[Hecktix]

Yes, a smallish group of people who are willing to have a friendly chat to new members and also able to help them with using the forum and other questions they may want to ask. I think it sounds better coming from normal members rather then moderators, super moderators and admins.



Why would you need admins? I think it would be great to include some staff such as EO's, radio DJ's, HxHD staff and non staff members. Non-managerial members primarily.

Equally though, some new members do like it very much when a member of Management or someone with a red name posts in their threads and to be honest these members of staff should be welcoming new members, so I'd agree it'd have to be a mixture.

Ryan, is that a serious or joke comment? I know it failed before but I guess it could work again, idk?

[scottish]

make scottish admin

Or do an event weekend where you must sign up to habboxlive.com to get the passcode (could be in the welcome email) which they must whisper in order to get the thing

Last time habbox done this i'm pretty sure like 80 people registered on the forum (it wasnt necessary as far as i'm away they just had to see the announcement) so gets a few peepz

[Catzsy]

not even going in to detail, i don't even care what you do. you push away all the active members.
it's most definitely double standards, don't even say i'm only saying it because i get infracted/banned often. my point is members who are "known" for having a bad reputation in terms of bullying, their posts automatically get dealt with even if they're innocent. i think my reversed infractions speak for themselves, no? plus some of us can actually take a joke! i don't report people who use "scottish" as an insult but apparently i'm racist for calling canadians ugly.

it's like you only see the bad things people say and disregard anything else. if you didn't notice a lot of 'e-rebels' make the threads suggesting where you go wrong.

why don't you just deal with posts that are OBVIOUSLY rude to someone or ones that are actually reported?!? like i say "**** off stop being a sheep", he doesn't report it (apparently) because he doesn't mind. can you not just deal with the posts that are offending people instead of looking at who the members are and their past?

oh yeah, the "report your infractions" thread is ridiculous. just LET us reply there instead of making us do it in support:S it's actually seriously annoying when you get a reply "please don't continue to post in this thread:)". it's so patronizing and it makes us look even more like troublemakers :rolleyes:

& lmao at suggesting putting post a pic back to spam, we argued AGAINST it being moved in the first place for ages and for the clubhabbo having photobooth, i personally wouldn't want a section where you post a thread dedicated to just yourself >.> not a lot of people would do it especially not new people.

and get rid of the image verification could you?

How many members will your suggestions above retain or encourage to join the forum?


[2]
I really think the infraction limit should be raised
maybe to something like 20

i hardly come on or post because im so close to a perm ban for stupid reasons such as insulting someones sister lol?
and yous always seem to find a reason to keep infractions
hardly any get reversed now a days lol

Jesus - how is it that both of you moan and whine about being given infractions and being 'picked' on when 90% of the forum are perfectly happy to abide by the rules or of they do break a rule, accept it and move on. The forum rules are not here to be played with - not to choose to abide by them when there is a threat of a perm ban. This forum is undoubtably too lenient these days with constant rule breakers. Until a year or two ago you had approximately 10/12 infractions before a perm ban with no user notes or warnings. You should consider yourself lucky tbh.

[scottish]

i agree the forum rules are stupid

especially the pointless post one

[Hecktix]

i agree the forum rules are stupid

especially the pointless post one

Care to expand on that with a reason why, please Scott? We can't really go anywhere on blunt comments like that.

[flatface]

Equally though, some new members do like it very much when a member of Management or someone with a red name posts in their threads and to be honest these members of staff should be welcoming new members, so I'd agree it'd have to be a mixture.

Ryan, is that a serious or joke comment? I know it failed before but I guess it could work again, idk?

Just as long as it's not "Welcome to HabboxForum, please read the rules!" because to be honest, I couldn't think of anything worse if I was new.

[scottish]

Someone asks me a question in the discuss anything i'm sure i replied 'no' then 5 mins later i get a warning from Nicola saying its pointless posting as its 1 word

what the **** do you want me to post

No i don't agree with this statement to the fullest of my ability? **** off it's not a pointless post

[Hecktix]

Just as long as it's not "Welcome to HabboxForum, please read the rules!" because to be honest, I couldn't think of anything worse if I was new.

I agree, I think welcomes should be more personal, perhaps an idea would be to make sure people ask questions like "what are your hobbies" what are you interested in" then any sort of welcome committee can help the user find their way around HxF to the areas they may find interesting.

No Scott, we'd like to know why you disagree with the statememnt. You may not like that rule but a lot of members are strongly against one word answers, they are pointless really - it doesn't take much to say why you disagree, it's what a few more words? It's not a discussion if replies are "yes" "no" "no" "yes" "no" "yes" "no" "yes" "yes".

[Pyroka]

Equally though, some new members do like it very much when a member of Management or someone with a red name posts in their threads and to be honest these members of staff should be welcoming new members, so I'd agree it'd have to be a mixture.

Ryan, is that a serious or joke comment? I know it failed before but I guess it could work again, idk?

Bit of both tbh, the previous Habbox council was an absolute failure due to how it was operated, so thats why I jokingly said it might work again, but on a serious note, it may just work again! I mean problem is though, management are more in touch with members and having the council around would be doing just that.

I guess its how you look at it, and operate it, then maybe it'd be a good idea to have it back.

[hah]

How many members will your suggestions above retain or encourage to join the forum?



Jesus - how is it that both of you moan and whine about being given infractions and being 'picked' on when 90% of the forum are perfectly happy to abide by the rules or of they do break a rule, accept it and move on. The forum rules are not here to be played with - not to choose to abide by them when there is a threat of a perm ban. This forum is undoubtably too lenient these days with constant rule breakers. Until a year or two ago you had approximately 10/12 infractions before a perm ban with no user notes or warnings. You should consider yourself lucky tbh.

wa wa wa stop picking on me. The thread was why us as users arent posting and we gave reasons
i think you should go back and read the first post before you attack us both

[xxMATTGxx]

Someone asks me a question in the discuss anything i'm sure i replied 'no' then 5 mins later i get a warning from Nicola saying its pointless posting as its 1 word

what the **** do you want me to post

No i don't agree with this statement to the fullest of my ability? **** off it's not a pointless post

To be fair Scott, you could of expanded your answer more and saying why your opinion is that on something. It's better than just saying "No" :P

[Blinger$]

Someone asks me a question in the discuss anything i'm sure i replied 'no' then 5 mins later i get a warning from Nicola saying its pointless posting as its 1 word

what the **** do you want me to post

No i don't agree with this statement to the fullest of my ability? **** off it's not a pointless post
I know, i got infracted when the OP asked if i was going to see some comedian live.. I replied "no i'm not" and bam! :|

[Nixt]

Whilst I see the point in this I think it'd be pointless to hire new staff entirely, moderators are advised to post as much as they can but I could easily make them make X amount of threads per week.


Well, would be better than nothing. Nothing to lose after all! :D

I personally believe that a referral competition could work well. It seems to me as if the members of this forum are equally as concerned that there is a lack in posting and would therefore endeavour, with the right incentive, to bring members to the forum in the form of referrals. If correctly moderated and managed it could be extremely successful and as has been said, even if it brings one new active member - we have lost nothing. There has always been a fear of referral competitions and I am happy to say that I myself have had my doubts in the past, but looking it from a position of neutrality I can't see the harm and I think across the summer period it's a good idea.

Perhaps we could stagger the prizes and make them proportional to the amount each member referred posts. So say if I referred 5 members, who posted 10 times each I would receive 10 reputation points (will obviously be more than this, but I am just trying to explain my idea). However if Saurav went on to refer 5 members who posted 20 times each, he would receive 20 reputation points.

It may also be worth offering a small incentive to those referred who sign up and post x amount of times.


Back in 2006, Seacat, JackHB and all admins used to post a lot.

Garion doesn't, Matt doesn't, Oli doesn't, Yoshi who?, brandon doesn't - no admin posts as much as the admins of 2006 - especially in Habbo sections. Most new members use the habbo sections and new members love replies from Admins.

Same goes for Super Moderators.

I do try my very best to post as much as possible but my main issue is that I receive between 30 and 50 private messages a day, have permissions requests to do, have discussions with staff over problems, receive a couple of complaints a day that need looking into. I also try and spend as much time on Habbo as possible as an ambassador for Habbox. Then I have real life commitments too - so I am left in a position where I find it very difficult to post often. However I quite agree that perhaps I do not post enough and I will try harder to post more often.


For me I think its the fact that people get offended too easily. And if you offend somebody on this forum who has a coloured name becuase they are staff, all the Managers back them to the hilt.

Not only that but all the AGM and GM are too closely linked and are so biased towards the managers of this forum. Just because your make the rules, doesn't mean your above them. I think that the management should take their head out of their arse.

I naturally try to defend staff because they are my babies. However if staff are in the wrong I will assure they are dealt with correctly and I can reel off a list of names who can vouch for that. We do back one another up but that's because we share opinions as Managers. If we believe another is wrong we won't brainlessly defend them - if we defend people we have reason to do so.

Thanks for the "head out of arse" comment :P. Do you mind me asking why it is you think that we have are heads in are bottoms? I don't intend to come across as stuck up or pretentious and all I am concerned with is making Habbox successful. I try my best to get a long with everybody but at the same time I do have a job which I have volunteered to do and naturally this clashes with the way I would like to be sometimes. That doesn't mean I have my head stuck up my arse, it just means I want to do my job to the best of my ability to ensure that Habbox is successful.


Oh and do a mass un-ban.

It's a nice idea but no. I understand that members mature but at the end of the day if "you do the crime, you do the time". Particularly now at HxF, the banning system we have in place is quite lenient - allowing 10 full infractions for a ban and you have to break a considerable amount of rules before that happens (with the usernote > warning > infraction system). Therefore members have plenty of time to consider their behaviour and mature before a permanent ban is issued.

However as Oli has said, if you appeal a ban that was issued a long time ago, it is highly likely that your ban will be lifted simply because a lot of those bans were issued unfairly or under far too harsh a circumstance. Right now though are system is more than fair and allows users plenty of opportunity to think about their actions.


I would say its a lack of Habbo focus. I know for a long time the forumers were always agitating for more insulation from Habbo, understandable because many forum users no longer used Habbo. But the hotel is our source of new members, a large percentage of our members come from the hotel. I think that the forum started gravitating away (and this didn't start with you, it's been going on for a long time, but it has continued) from Habbo and is not bringing in enough new users from the hotel.

We were also thinking about the problem that we don't have enough of a Habbo presence when I was GM, I'm not suggesting the events team is not doing their job, it seems that they are holding events but Habbo outreach needs to be increased - a lot. As much as a lot of people scorn Habbo users as immature, they're what end up keeping the forum alive. Plus those immature users end up learning how to communicate with vowels and without zs everywhere and become useful members of the community, a lot of us started off as noobs *cough*

I quite agree that there is an issue with our connection with Habbo and this is something we are going to have to look at. The community departments do their job effectively but that is not enough if both the forum's staff and indeed, the members themselves, are largely detached from Habbo itself. We need to be promoting ourselves on Habbo a lot more often and I understand that Oli's HD Takeover is taking place soon. Further to this HxSS should be a massive benefit and, at the end of this month Roxy has a week of events planned that should hopefully attract people to Habbox as a whole.

This detachment from Habbo has, as you say, been an issue for a long time. We need to orientate ourselves around Habbo even more but at the same time ensure this does not mar the experience of the dedicated members of the forum who have grown out of the game themselves. It is a difficult balance to strike but I believe we are getting there at least.


omg lol ur right
garions language is a bit over the top sometimes lol
i dont understand him half the time/he could have wrote it simpler lol

Lol I apologise if you find my vocabulary and use of English over bearing. This is just how I type (and indeed talk in real life) so it's difficult for me to attempt to talk in any other way. RE: Saurav's point further up this post, I will try my best to post more around the forum (particularly the Habbo forums) and in doing that will attempt to lower the tone of my posts so they don't seem, I don't know.. formidable(?) to newer members.


disassociate the forum with habbo and have it a general forum

most existing users have established a group of friends on the forum, new users coming in will find it hard to fit into these groups and probably just give up straight away

Eek! No! I understand your view but the moment this decision is made we lose the source of our users and destroy the very essence of Habbox itself.



I think the idea Catzsy suggested is really good, having member reps and another forum only viewable to them and new members is a great way of making people feel welcome and being able to ask other members questions. I think it would be good if these reps were not staff and are seen as members, just like any other member.

[Hecktix]

I know, i got infracted when the OP asked if i was going to see some comedian live.. I replied "no i'm not" and bam! :|

You didn't get infracted, we don't give infractions for pointless posting :P

[flatface]

I agree, I think welcomes should be more personal, perhaps an idea would be to make sure people ask questions like "what are your hobbies" what are you interested in" then any sort of welcome committee can help the user find their way around HxF to the areas they may find interesting.

Yes that would be good, a separate private forum viewable to a welcome committee consisting of a selection of all different people on the forum and all new members within a certain post count. The forum would need to be positioned at the top of the forum to ensure it stands out, I think.

[Judas]

personally i think habbox is too grown up

most members of management are quite old and they take habbox too seriously and it just isnt fun. people who play habbo are usually quite young and play it to have fun. for example an average 12 year old would come and look at this thread and read the first page and be bored out of their mind.

the forum just isnt fun, its ran too much like a business and is really strict. it used to be way better when i was younger but everyone who is on the forum that used to be has grown up and habbox has grown with it, and its making it harder for younger people to join in and get involved because its too mature.

rtyhtnbdv

[Hecktix]

Yes that would be good, a separate private forum viewable to a welcome committee consisting of a selection of all different people on the forum and all new members within a certain post count. The forum would need to be positioned at the top of the forum to ensure it stands out, I think.

Yeah I agree that it'd be near the top. I'm thinking about how it could be done logistically and it would either require a new usergroup for the new members to view it, or would it be acceptable to let gold members see it? Although Gold Members is people with 0-1000 posts.

[xxMATTGxx]

I agree, I think welcomes should be more personal, perhaps an idea would be to make sure people ask questions like "what are your hobbies" what are you interested in" then any sort of welcome committee can help the user find their way around HxF to the areas they may find interesting.


Yes that would be good, a separate private forum viewable to a welcome committee consisting of a selection of all different people on the forum and all new members within a certain post count. The forum would need to be positioned at the top of the forum to ensure it stands out, I think.

I'm guessing this committee would also help users on how to use the forum? If not then here's something. I've been contacted a few times on how to do certain tasks on the forum which to me they are pretty simple tasks. But these users are pretty new to "forums". So maybe a good idea would be have some sort of "New to Forums" guide which explains simple and basic tasks on the forum.

So like:

How to create threads
How to add your own avatar and signature
What is reputation?

etc.

If that makes any sense?

[--liger--]

I believe that there is loads reasons as to why people aren't posting as much. I mean yes, it is summer season so people are on Holidays which I'm sure we all know and understand. But you have to think outside the box a little. Personally I haven't posted much because I didn't like how the forum changed with look and everything, no offense. When it changed it annoyed me and some others from what I could gather. Plus, I honestly think we have lost our mojo. When I say, 'mojo', I mean our fun and stuff. Yes we have competitions and events on the forum but like what is with the competitions about people having dreams and you have to re-create it. I would like to see better forum competitions than just re-create this or try and beat this.

Another thought I had for awhile is the arcade. I was never sure if you got awarded Rep for it. But why not hand out rep every time someone comes in 1st, 2nd, or 3rd. What happened with awards as well? I notice that you have to apply for them loads and that they aren't just given out upon completion. Why not have a system that gives the users awards and make them feel like they have done something. But while giving award give out some rep as well.

Going away from Rep, another thought was allowing the community to involved more with the development in things on the forum itself. It should be to our liking and yours, but mainly ours. When you go to make a change, why not ask the public what they think.

Just some thoughts.

[hah]

isnt most of that in the faq/rules thing section

[Con]

I personally don't post as much because I have too many things on my time and only really get time for HxF around this time, for a few hours till I go to bed.
But, what would make me post more was, perhaps, more staff competitions that are interesting to me, not exactly habbo-based competitions though, something about real life things like music, films etc. (Oh, just realised this isn't only for staff aha, but the same applies to normal competitions and perhaps if they were advertised a bit more?)
But when I find threads that I find interesting personally, I'll post in them :)

[Hecktix]

I believe that there is loads reasons as to why people aren't posting as much. I mean yes, it is summer season so people are on Holidays which I'm sure we all know and understand. But you have to think outside the box a little. Personally I haven't posted much because I didn't like how the forum changed with look and everything, no offense. When it changed it annoyed me and some others from what I could gather. Plus, I honestly think we have lost our mojo. When I say, 'mojo', I mean our fun and stuff. Yes we have competitions and events on the forum but like what is with the competitions about people having dreams and you have to re-create it. I would like to see better forum competitions than just re-create this or try and beat this.

Another thought I had for awhile is the arcade. I was never sure if you got awarded Rep for it. But why not hand out rep every time someone comes in 1st, 2nd, or 3rd. What happened with awards as well? I notice that you have to apply for them loads and that they aren't just given out upon completion. Why not have a system that gives the users awards and make them feel like they have done something. But while giving award give out some rep as well.

Going away from Rep, another thought was allowing the community to involved more with the development in things on the forum itself. It should be to our liking and yours, but mainly ours. When you go to make a change, why not ask the public what they think.

Just some thoughts.

On your arcade comments, look out! We've just brought in some noob called Nvrspk4 who is going to take over our Arcade over the summer with aload of tournaments with prizes including VIP, Reputation and chances to choose new arcade games - just watch out.

Yes Matt!!

[xxMATTGxx]

isnt most of that in the faq/rules thing section

Yeah it is. Although it isn't that "great" and maybe it would be nice to include some images for certain tasks? Then when you look at the FAQ and click certain things, it goes a bit into depth on much. But that can be changed!

[flatface]

Yeah I agree that it'd be near the top. I'm thinking about how it could be done logistically and it would either require a new usergroup for the new members to view it, or would it be acceptable to let gold members see it? Although Gold Members is people with 0-1000 posts.

I'll leave that up to you, you know more about it then I do lol. I do think 1000 posts is a bit too high for a "new member" though. I do however think there should be a committee leader who should be a non staff member. For example the ex staff group - people can apply to get the Habbox Merit and someone looks over their application and checks they fit the requirements. I think that would work well.



I'm guessing this committee would also help users on how to use the forum? If not then here's something. I've been contacted a few times on how to certain tasks on the forum which to me they are pretty simple tasks. But these users are pretty new to "forums". So maybe a good idea would be have some sort of "New to Forums" guide which explains simple and basic tasks on the forum.

So like:

How to create threads
How to add your own avatar and signature
What is reputation?

etc.

If that makes any sense?

Yes, that is what I mentioned a few posts ago I think. Basically the committee could help new members on using the forum, getting to know the member and finding out what parts of the forum they maybe interested in. Just being a friendly face I spose!

[xxMATTGxx]

I'll leave that up to you, you know more about it then I do lol. I do think 1000 posts is a bit too high for a "new member" though. I do however think there should be a committee leader who should be a non staff member. For example the ex staff group - people can apply to get the Habbox Merit and someone looks over their application and checks they fit the requirements. I think that would work well.




Yes, that is what I mentioned a few posts ago I think. Basically the committee could help new members on using the forum, getting to know the member and finding out what parts of the forum they maybe interested in. Just being a friendly face I spose!

Yeah. Sometimes it's better to have someone helping you directly then reading say the whole "FAQ" to find out how to do stuff.

[buttons]

How many members will your suggestions above retain or encourage to join the forum?

Jesus - how is it that both of you moan and whine about being given infractions and being 'picked' on when 90% of the forum are perfectly happy to abide by the rules or of they do break a rule, accept it and move on.
my last post was genuine suggestions, i was picking up parts that was said here and giving my own observations on it. stop jumping at me, you're so obsessed. fyi 2 people (one ex mod:O) agreed with me.. yeh.
as for your second quote that's because we're seen as 'bullies', 'troublemakers' etc so we're most likely to get told off. HENCE MY PREVIOUS POST about that. the only reason you're so bitter is because we had the guts to stand up to you and you didn't like that one bit and acted as the victim. this thread isn't about you, try to provoke me all you want but from now you won't be replied to so don't quote my posts because it'll be a waste of time. ":)"

so erm yeh someone reply about the infractions thread + image verification from my previous post. probably won't matter much to me, can't stand some *cough* people here, if they don't put people off posting idek what does ~~

[flatface]

Yeah. Sometimes it's better to have someone helping you directly then reading say the whole "FAQ" to find out how to do stuff.

Exactly, direct from another member is much better at first.

[GommeInc]

oh, and i'd say we need to increase the number of new members. ive seen a lot of our older members who've been here for years leaving as they're gettin towards their 20s, but still nobody new
I kinda see this too. Perhaps more involvement on Habbo? It's annoying Habbo refuses to do much with its fansites anymore - it's bad for Habbo and their fansites which kinda keep the Habbo community alive. Back in the day fansites used to either be allies or enemies, now you don't really hear anything about them :/

[Catzsy]

my last post was genuine suggestions, i was picking up parts that was said here and giving my own observations on it. stop jumping at me, you're so obsessed. fyi 2 people (one ex mod:O) agreed with me.. yeh.
as for your second quote that's because we're seen as 'bullies', 'troublemakers' etc so we're most likely to get told off. HENCE MY PREVIOUS POST about that. the only reason you're so bitter is because we had the guts to stand up to you and you didn't like that one bit and acted as the victim. this thread isn't about you, try to provoke me all you want but from now you won't be replied to so don't quote my posts because it'll be a waste of time. ":)"

so erm yeh someone reply about the infractions thread + image verification from my previous post. probably won't matter much to me, can't stand some *cough* people here, if they don't put people off posting idek what does ~~

Absolute rubbish. The forum doesn't need bullies and trouble makers.

[hah]

Absolute rubbish. The forum doesn't need bullies and trouble makers.

are you actually reading her posts omg lol
you're coming across as a troll now because its like you're trying to provoke her lol

[Catzsy]

are you actually reading her posts omg lol
you're coming across as a troll now because its like you're trying to provoke her lol

Yes I am reading her posts and have given my opinion.

[xxMATTGxx]

my last post was genuine suggestions, i was picking up parts that was said here and giving my own observations on it. stop jumping at me, you're so obsessed. fyi 2 people (one ex mod:O) agreed with me.. yeh.
as for your second quote that's because we're seen as 'bullies', 'troublemakers' etc so we're most likely to get told off. HENCE MY PREVIOUS POST about that. the only reason you're so bitter is because we had the guts to stand up to you and you didn't like that one bit and acted as the victim. this thread isn't about you, try to provoke me all you want but from now you won't be replied to so don't quote my posts because it'll be a waste of time. ":)"

so erm yeh someone reply about the infractions thread + image verification from my previous post. probably won't matter much to me, can't stand some *cough* people here, if they don't put people off posting idek what does ~~

You mean get rid of the whole system so new users don't have to put a code in to "approve" their post? If that is the case do you have any suggestions how we would tackle any spam bots and what not. As without this then bots would be able to join up and spam freely and only the odd few get passed the current system.

[scottish]

@mythingfewpages back

If someone asked you a yes/no answer on msn, would you say, 'yes i totally agree with this statement'?

would you **** you'd say yes or no, its a simple question that deserves a simple ******* answer

So getting told off for posting yes or no is just ******ed

[hah]

use the picture system instead of the capcha
i dont think they can get past that?

when signing up i mean


http://rbguides.com/screenshots/8598a5d4.png




@ cat - u clearly arent, your reply made no sense in relation to her post

[Catzsy]

use the picture system instead of the capcha
i dont think they can get past that?

when signing up i mean


http://rbguides.com/screenshots/8598a5d4.png




@ cat - u clearly arent, your reply made no sense in relation to her post

Maybe not to you. Anyway I am pleased that the new members rep suggestion that I put forward has received some positive feedback. :)

[xxMATTGxx]

@mythingfewpages back

If someone asked you a yes/no answer on msn, would you say, 'yes i totally agree with this statement'?

would you **** you'd say yes or no, its a simple question that deserves a simple ******* answer

So getting told off for posting yes or no is just ******ed

It depends on the question to me IMO.


use the picture system instead of the capcha
i dont think they can get past that?

when signing up i mean


http://rbguides.com/screenshots/8598a5d4.png



@ cat - u clearly arent, your reply made no sense in relation to her post

Oh yeah. I forgot about the picture one, I've seen that on many forums before. Could be something we can look into.

[Apolva]

Because it's summer, so I've got more exciting things to do.

Thought I did still post quite frequently :/

[scottish]

"Thanks indeed. Are you a Chav possibly?"

It's a yes or no answer

Giving people a warning for answering a yes or no answer with yes or no is just ******* stupid.

[Nemo]

"Thanks indeed. Are you a Chav possibly?"

It's a yes or no answer

Giving people a warning for answering a yes or no answer with yes or no is just ******* stupid.
Well then you'd say, "Nah im not, i dont really wear tracksuits and whatnot. I got loads round my area, its really bad blahlbahlagafdskdskdsa"

so much to write.

[Hecktix]

my last post was genuine suggestions, i was picking up parts that was said here and giving my own observations on it. stop jumping at me, you're so obsessed. fyi 2 people (one ex mod:O) agreed with me.. yeh.
as for your second quote that's because we're seen as 'bullies', 'troublemakers' etc so we're most likely to get told off. HENCE MY PREVIOUS POST about that. the only reason you're so bitter is because we had the guts to stand up to you and you didn't like that one bit and acted as the victim. this thread isn't about you, try to provoke me all you want but from now you won't be replied to so don't quote my posts because it'll be a waste of time. ":)"

so erm yeh someone reply about the infractions thread + image verification from my previous post. probably won't matter much to me, can't stand some *cough* people here, if they don't put people off posting idek what does ~~

Your image verification should have stopped, PM me if not. The infractions thread shouldn't turn into an argument and it's a pain when it did, i'd rather have the more extended discussion on the support system as it can be taken to further depths, you know from experience you can get positive answers out of the report system.


@mythingfewpages back

If someone asked you a yes/no answer on msn, would you say, 'yes i totally agree with this statement'?

would you **** you'd say yes or no, its a simple question that deserves a simple ******* answer

So getting told off for posting yes or no is just ******ed

I very rarely have a conversation on MSN where I reply with one word answers, besides this is a forum not MSN :P


use the picture system instead of the capcha
i dont think they can get past that?

when signing up i mean


http://rbguides.com/screenshots/8598a5d4.png


@ cat - u clearly arent, your reply made no sense in relation to her post

Looks nicer, I agree but what would it do to bring new members?


Well then you'd say, "Nah im not, i dont really wear tracksuits and whatnot. I got loads round my area, its really bad blahlbahlagafdskdskdsa"

so much to write.

This man talks sense.

[scottish]

Yeh but warning people for a one word answer

Very welcoming...

Theres a 6 character limit, if anyone posts through that it should be fine...

Just ******* stupid tbh

[Robbie]

With regards to the image verification - sometimes it is a user that types in the image verification and software will fill in the rest of the fields. No way around that unfortunately.

[Hecktix]

Yeh but warning people for a one word answer

Very welcoming...

Theres a 6 character limit, if anyone posts through that it should be fine...

Just ******* stupid tbh

It's not a warning it's a PM from a Moderator, to a new member it would be explained exactly why etc and they'd be informed on all the processes, older members should be aware of rules like this. One word answers are simply not allowed - they are pointless and it doesn't take much for you to expand on them.

[scottish]

It's a pm warning me = warning

They're not pointless though

If they answer the question its not a ******* pointless post......

YEs i can post YES I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT !>?$£@":

but i'm not ******* gay and i answer the way i would anywhere else, rule is stupid, end of.

[Nemo]

It's a pm warning me = warning

They're not pointless though

If they answer the question its not a ******* pointless post......

YEs i can post YES I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT !>?$£@":

but i'm not ******* gay and i answer the way i would anywhere else, rule is stupid, end of.
afaik, there's a warning and an infraction that you can literally put on the persons account. So technically its not a warning, its more of a warning before u get a warning.

A warning warning!

[Hecktix]

It's a pm warning me = warning

They're not pointless though

If they answer the question its not a ******* pointless post......

YEs i can post YES I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THAT !>?$£@":

but i'm not ******* gay and i answer the way i would anywhere else, rule is stupid, end of.

You are entitled to your opinion Scott, however the rule won't be changing due to many other members agreeing with it.

[scottish]

It's a warning...

I'm being told off for doing it and not to do it again

= warned

---------- Post added 22-07-2010 at 11:19 PM ----------

kazopark thing should be removed aswell it ruins forum

[smiffy70]

tbh i think really it is because we have just started summer and every1 will be on holiday

but i think some ways to get the forum more active is to run more official forum competitions executivly

the second one is, there are a hell of a lot of game websites and things like clubpenguin, why dont u pay for some advertising on a few of them an attract people to the forum and the main site


how this was helpful XD

- jack

[Blinger$]

tbh i think really it is because we have just started summer and every1 will be on holiday

but i think some ways to get the forum more active is to run more official forum competitions executivly

the second one is, there are a hell of a lot of game websites and things like clubpenguin, why dont u pay for some advertising on a few of them an attract people to the forum and the main site


how this was helpful XD

- jack
because we ***** and complain about barely being able to survive how it is currently.

[Nemo]

Oh yeah, i didnt read all the pages because well... i went afk for half the day and didnt see most of them. But why not run less competitions (we seem to have like one a day with a page of entries or so), and instead do bigger ones with bigger prizes, and hopefully more people entering. Some people juist dont bother if its like one hc

[xxMATTGxx]

@mythingfewpages back

If someone asked you a yes/no answer on msn, would you say, 'yes i totally agree with this statement'?

would you **** you'd say yes or no, its a simple question that deserves a simple ******* answer

So getting told off for posting yes or no is just ******ed


use the picture system instead of the capcha
i dont think they can get past that?

when signing up i mean


http://rbguides.com/screenshots/8598a5d4.png




@ cat - u clearly arent, your reply made no sense in relation to her post


Your image verification should have stopped, PM me if not. The infractions thread shouldn't turn into an argument and it's a pain when it did, i'd rather have the more extended discussion on the support system as it can be taken to further depths, you know from experience you can get positive answers out of the report system.



I very rarely have a conversation on MSN where I reply with one word answers, besides this is a forum not MSN :P



Looks nicer, I agree but what would it do to bring new members?



This man talks sense.

They might be suggesting it annoys users having the image verification when they register. But it is only for the first five posts, so I'm not sure if that is really a big issue.

[scottish]

y quote my post

[flatface]

They might be suggesting it annoys users having the image verification when they register. But it is only for the first five posts, so I'm not sure if that is really a big issue.

But having to go through image verification to post when you're new doesn't give a first good impression lol

[Cwmbran]

Excuse me for not reading 19 pages so if this has been said, apologies.

I feel the main problem with this forum is new memebers feel segregated, and unwanted by other forum members.
For example, if a new member was to create a thread not many of the older forum members will view the thread unless someone recognised in the community has already posted in it as nobody seems to care what some "noob" has to say. Fair enough if the topic is utter rubbish nobody is going to reply to it but that topic may mean something to the original poster. Another thing, new members are not going to read the rules come on who actually has sat infront of their computer and read them? If they are to create a new thread which was to be against the rules they would instantly get an infraction and a slap on the wrist. How would that make you feel? I'd feel like a little child.

Perhaps a way to combat that would be to give the new members an induction period where say in the first week they break a rule or the first time they break a certain rule instead of getting an infraction just a reply in the thread by a member of staff or another forum member to say "Hey thats not allowed *insert link to rule*". As for the members feeling segregated maybe trying to incourage the older members of the forum to engage the newer members by offering them some sort of reward. Maybe one of the critera for member of the month could be helping out newer members, making them feel welcome.


The forum just seems to have a bad atmosphere in general and when I was active (Not sure about now) it was run as a dictatorship. When a forum member suggested something good and most of the community was behind it if one person in managment did not like it then it would be discarded and would receive no updates from managment on it, the topic would just be left to die without a confirmation on wether or not the idea will be be used or scrapped. Forum members back then got pissed off with that and would still get pissed off with it now. That could be an adding factor for some members to leave the forum. If this is still the case it needs to change.

If Habbox wants to continue to be a succesful and popular fansite then it needs to concentrate on bringing in new members, and should not become less associated with Habbo. Giveaways/Lotteries where you need to sign upto the site and the promise of more not just one offs would surely bring in newer members. Private sections of the forums I believe would be a good idea, I have often joined a forum and a certain section that I have wanted to look at requiers so many posts to enter I will go about posting, sure this could lead to spamming but if these posts would be classed as spam you could surely delete them and remove what ever post count had been gained from them. As for types of private sections... I haven't a clue.

[Nicola]

Excuse me for not reading 19 pages so if this has been said, apologies.

I feel the main problem with this forum is new memebers feel segregated, and unwanted by other forum members.
For example, if a new member was to create a thread not many of the older forum members will view the thread unless someone recognised in the community has already posted in it as nobody seems to care what some "noob" has to say. Fair enough if the topic is utter rubbish nobody is going to reply to it but that topic may mean something to the original poster. Another thing, new members are not going to read the rules come on who actually has sat infront of their computer and read them? If they are to create a new thread which was to be against the rules they would instantly get an infraction and a slap on the wrist. How would that make you feel? I'd feel like a little child.

Perhaps a way to combat that would be to give the new members and induction period where say in the first week they break a rule or the first time they break a certain rule instead of getting an infraction just a reply in the thread by a member of staff or another forum member to say "Hey thats not allowed *insert link to rule*". As for the members feeling segregated maybe trying to incourage the older members of the forum to engage the newer members by offering them some sort of reward. Maybe one of the critera for member of the month could be helping out newer members, making them feel welcome.


The forum just seems to have a bad atmosphere in general and when I was active (Not sure about now) it was run as a dictatorship. When a forum member suggested something good and most of the community was behind it if one person in managment did not like it then it would be discarded and would receive no updates from managment on it, the topic would just be left to die without a confirmation on wether or not the idea will be be used or scrapped. Forum members back then got pissed off with that and would still get pissed off with it now. That could be an adding factor for some members to leave the forum. If this is still the case it needs to change.

If Habbox wants to continue to be a succesful and popular fansite then it needs to concentrate on bringing in new members, and should not become less associated with Habbo. Giveaways/Lotteries where you need to sign upto the site and the promise of more not just one offs would surely bring in newer members. Private sections of the forums I believe would be a good idea, I have often joined a forum and a certain section that I have wanted to look at requiers so many posts to enter I will go about posting, sure this could lead to spamming but if these posts would be classed as spam you could surely delete them and remove what ever post count had been gained from them. As for types of private sections... I haven't a clue.

If a new member breaks a rule (just like any other member who has broken a rule for the first time) they get a PM explaining how they have broken the rule and why it isn't allowed. They don't recieve infractions straight away. Warnings and infractions come after breaking rules several times.

When a new member is PM'd about breaking a rule they are normally linked to the rule page incase they haven't read it and also told that if they have any questions or problems then they can send us a PM straight away and we'll help them out. The majority of new members I've PM'd just reply back saying sorry and that it won't happen again and seem perfectly fine with it.

[coopera11]

We need more up to date and ingteresting thrreads to post in, personaly i like debates more than conversation threads and would like to see more of them with more variety as well.

[Cwmbran]

If a new member breaks a rule (just like any other member who has broken a rule for the first time) they get a PM explaining how they have broken the rule and why it isn't allowed. They don't recieve infractions straight away. Warnings and infractions come after breaking rules several times.

When a new member is PM'd about breaking a rule they are normally linked to the rule page incase they haven't read it and also told that if they have any questions or problems then they can send us a PM straight away and we'll help them out. The majority of new members I've PM'd just reply back saying sorry and that it won't happen again and seem perfectly fine with it.

Didn't realise that it had changed from back in the day when I first joined. :P
Still a PM seems a bit too formal, I personally would prefer a reply in the thread. Makes the forum seem more casual and laid back.

[Tintinnabulate]

plus some of us can actually take a joke! i don't report people who use "scottish" as an insult but apparently i'm racist for calling canadians ugly.


I agree. I was gna post "no shes ugly like all Koreans" in your thread but I removed the bit in bold in case I get done for racism when me and you know its a joke.

[Nicola]

Didn't realise that it had changed from back in the day when I first joined. :P
Still a PM seems a bit too formal, I personally would prefer a reply in the thread. Makes the forum seem more casual and laid back.

Ah right :)

Hmm I'm not sure about replying to a thread telling them that they are wrong because I know if I'd made a mistake I'd rather I was spoken to about it in private without everyone else seeing.

[Cwmbran]

Ah right :)

Hmm I'm not sure about replying to a thread telling them that they are wrong because I know if I'd made a mistake I'd rather I was spoken to about it in private without everyone else seeing.

That would fall down to personal taste at the end of the day, perhaps it should be left upto the member of staff to either send a PM or just a reply in a thread.

Lol I just noticed I put incouraged.

[Tintinnabulate]

I'm guessing this committee would also help users on how to use the forum? If not then here's something. I've been contacted a few times on how to do certain tasks on the forum which to me they are pretty simple tasks. But these users are pretty new to "forums". So maybe a good idea would be have some sort of "New to Forums" guide which explains simple and basic tasks on the forum.

So like:

How to create threads
How to add your own avatar and signature
What is reputation?

etc.

If that makes any sense?

I thought Oli was making a guide to put on Habbox.com and to replace the huge block of text at the top for guests?

[Hecktix]

That would fall down to personal taste at the end of the day, perhaps it should be left upto the member of staff to either send a PM or just a reply in a thread.

Lol I just noticed I put incouraged.

I wouldn't like members being publically told they are wrong, the PMs moderators send to new members are extremely friendly, infact the moderator guide says to make such PMs more of a "Welcome" PM than telling them they're in the wrong.

@ Saurav, we have the registration guide and I had started making a guide on all of those, I suppose it can go in the welcome committee now though :D

[Tintinnabulate]

I very rarely have a conversation on MSN where I reply with one word answers, besides this is a forum not MSN :P


Lies :P


Oli... We believe in one another says:
*odd :S


jokingg

[Hecktix]

Lies :P



jokingg

Haha, I rarely answer questions with one word :P

[Tintinnabulate]

Why not have a strict sign up system? i.e. Click on the image of the cat, whats 2+2, and ask them questions like "are you a bot"?
I installed it on my forum, rarely had bots since then.

[HotelUser]

Why not have a strict sign up system? i.e. Click on the image of the cat, whats 2+2, and ask them questions like "are you a bot"?
I installed it on my forum, rarely had bots since then.

Agreed.


Also why not start using the [mod] tags. If they don't look nice; edit them :P

[Tintinnabulate]

Ah right :)

Hmm I'm not sure about replying to a thread telling them that they are wrong because I know if I'd made a mistake I'd rather I was spoken to about it in private without everyone else seeing.

The edit kind of makes it visible to everyone.

[Judas]

personally i think habbox is too grown up

most members of management are quite old and they take habbox too seriously and it just isnt fun. people who play habbo are usually quite young and play it to have fun. for example an average 12 year old would come and look at this thread and read the first page and be bored out of their mind.

the forum just isnt fun, its ran too much like a business and is really strict. it used to be way better when i was younger but everyone who is on the forum that used to be has grown up and habbox has grown with it, and its making it harder for younger people to join in and get involved because its too mature.

bhnfgbsfvsdfvcadz

Edited by Nixt (Assistant General Manager): Please do not post pointlessly.

[Tintinnabulate]

Right a few comments:

CHF mod edit tags look nice. It means users cant see which mod issued it and thus avoid them hating on the mod - however if they get a PM, it makes it obvious so dno. Mod tags kinda look nicer on CHF tbh.

Have separate "strictness" for Habbo category and General category. When I joined, I didn't even touch the General ones as users were so damn rude and they all ganged up on you. Slowly I started posting in General and got used to it.
Maybe allow no rudeness in Habbo sections as thats where new users first post and allow a bit in General.

I have seen ideas to add around 3 forums so far - I thought management wanted to cut down on the number of forums :S

Problem is, as Eckuii mentioned, before management were 14-16 year olds, now its older thus more strict.

[xxMATTGxx]

Why not have a strict sign up system? i.e. Click on the image of the cat, whats 2+2, and ask them questions like "are you a bot"?
I installed it on my forum, rarely had bots since then.


Agreed.


Also why not start using the [mod] tags. If they don't look nice; edit them :P


It might be actually worth while changing the way of the registation process instead of the current image verification system. This seems to be more used by more forums and I'm not sure if they have many issues with bots but I will take Saurav's words regarding that.

@David. We did try "MOD" tags some months back, although we couldn't quite get them nice or how we wanted them. We obviously don't want to fully copy other fansite tags. :P

[Nemo]

bhnfgbsfvsdfvcadzi agree


Right a few comments:

CHF mod edit tags look nice. It means users cant see which mod issued it and thus avoid them hating on the mod - however if they get a PM, it makes it obvious so dno. Mod tags kinda look nicer on CHF tbh.

Have separate "strictness" for Habbo category and General category. When I joined, I didn't even touch the General ones as users were so damn rude and they all ganged up on you. Slowly I started posting in General and got used to it.
Maybe allow no rudeness in Habbo sections as thats where new users first post and allow a bit in General.

I have seen ideas to add around 3 forums so far - I thought management wanted to cut down on the number of forums :S

Problem is, as Eckuii mentioned, before management were 14-16 year olds, now its older thus more strict.
show what the mod tags look like pleeeeeeeeasae

[Cwmbran]

The forum just seems to have a bad atmosphere in general and when I was active (Not sure about now) it was run as a dictatorship. When a forum member suggested something good and most of the community was behind it if one person in managment did not like it then it would be discarded and would receive no updates from managment on it, the topic would just be left to die without a confirmation on wether or not the idea will be be used or scrapped. Forum members back then got pissed off with that and would still get pissed off with it now. That could be an adding factor for some members to leave the forum. If this is still the case it needs to change.



I wouldn't like members being publically told they are wrong, the PMs moderators send to new members are extremely friendly, infact the moderator guide says to make such PMs more of a "Welcome" PM than telling them they're in the wrong.


So you're stamping out the idea? Fair enough its not got any support but still. Any ideas that gain support from the community should be taken into consideration. Thats the attitude I remember from managment when I was active.

So if that idea gained support from the majority of the community would you look at implementing it or because you are against it just discard it?

Just out of curiosity now, if a rule was broken by a new member would a member of staff be allowed to post in the thread saying that it isn't allowed or is it a "You must send a PM"?

[Nemo]

So you're stamping out the idea? Fair enough its not got any support but still. Any ideas that gain support from the community should be taken into consideration and thats the attitude I remember from managment when I was active.

So if that idea gained support from the majority of the community would you look at implementing it or because you are against it just discard it?

Just out of curiosity now, if a rule was broken by a new member would a member of staff be allowed to post in the thread saying that it isn't allowed or is it a "You must send a PM"?
I think oli was just using himself as a spokesman for the people, from what ive seen of oli he does take into consideration a lot of what the community thinks

[Hecktix]

So you're stamping out the idea? Fair enough its not got any support but still. Any ideas that gain support from the community should be taken into consideration and thats the attitude I remember from managment when I was active.

So if that idea gained support from the majority of the community would you look at implementing it or because you are against it just discard it?

Just out of curiosity now, if a rule was broken by a new member would a member of staff be allowed to post in the thread saying that it isn't allowed or is it a "You must send a PM"?

I'm not stamping out the idea I'm just stating my opinion, and no, moderators are not allowed to post in a thread telling a member they have broken the rules, it's a bit embarassing really if that happened.

Saurav, I like modtags but I'm not sure General Management do, we also got some bad feedback last time we thought of it... but I'm open to suggestions.

[Tintinnabulate]

It might be actually worth while changing the way of the registation process instead of the current image verification system. This seems to be more used by more forums and I'm not sure if they have many issues with bots but I will take Saurav's words regarding that.

@David. We did try "MOD" tags some months back, although we couldn't quite get them nice or how we wanted them. We obviously don't want to fully copy other fansite tags. :P

They work because I have tried the mass bot spamming software to see how it works.
It registers pre-set data and when it comes to image verification, it automatically asks the user to put it in and then it finishes the registration. However, when there are options like "click on the image of the cat below", and "whats 2+2", it can't do it, doesn't ask the user to do it either as its not programmed to recognise it, and therefore comes up as "failed registration".

[Judas]

I'm not stamping out the idea I'm just stating my opinion, and no, moderators are not allowed to post in a thread telling a member they have broken the rules, it's a bit embarassing really if that happened.

editing the post has the same effect really
like when you edit saying please dont be rude or offensive to another member or whatever, the "other member" will see that and probably still be a bit offended.

[hah]

Right a few comments:

CHF mod edit tags look nice. It means users cant see which mod issued it and thus avoid them hating on the mod - however if they get a PM, it makes it obvious so dno. Mod tags kinda look nicer on CHF tbh.

No its because they dont have that ugly "last edited by text after the post lol". But i agree, we should have them. Get someone to make nice ones.

Have separate "strictness" for Habbo category and General category. When I joined, I didn't even touch the General ones as users were so damn rude and they all ganged up on you. Slowly I started posting in General and got used to it.
Maybe allow no rudeness in Habbo sections as thats where new users first post and allow a bit in General.

I have seen ideas to add around 3 forums so far - I thought management wanted to cut down on the number of forums :S

Problem is, as Eckuii mentioned, before management were 14-16 year olds, now its older thus more strict.


boly etc

[nvrspk4]

disassociate the forum with habbo and have it a general forum


most existing users have established a group of friends on the forum, new users coming in will find it hard to fit into these groups and probably just give up straight away

That would be the easiest way to kill the forum :P Members would stagnate, old members would leave slowly and the forum would die.


Bit of both tbh, the previous Habbox council was an absolute failure due to how it was operated, so thats why I jokingly said it might work again, but on a serious note, it may just work again! I mean problem is though, management are more in touch with members and having the council around would be doing just that.

I guess its how you look at it, and operate it, then maybe it'd be a good idea to have it back.

I disagree that the Habbox Council would be a good thing. The Habbox Council was started because there was a clear disconnect between member feedback and management, it was an attempt to fix that. However the council was not given any real ability to effect change and was really becoming a farce which is why I resigned from my position there. Instead we started doing Sunday updates etc. and now members truly know that posting here has a good chance of getting accepted and updated if they can prove their point.

While it may seem like its always been like this, because Matt, Sam and the various forum teams have done a very good job of keeping the connection. Those who were here years ago will know that there is much more opportunity for members to really effect change on Habbox nowadays. So the Habbox Council isn't necessary, because every member has the power that the Habbox Council would have. Credit to the current management team for making that possible.

[Hecktix]

editing the post has the same effect really
like when you edit saying please dont be rude or offensive to another member or whatever, the "other member" will see that and probably still be a bit offended.

Perhaps, although a full blown "you have done this, this breaks this etc etc etc" is a bit more embarassing than "Please don't post pointlessly" - this also helps other members learn what kind of posts are classed pointless.

I know when I was new I learnt from seeing other peoples thread edits, still got infractions for double posting mind ;l

[Tintinnabulate]

i agree


show what the mod tags look like pleeeeeeeeasae

msn kk
but yeah it looks nicer

[hah]

@ whoever asked
http://rbguides.com/screenshots/87c57daf.png

[Nemo]

To go back to the mod tags, i fully agree with them. Just saw a picture of em and they look prettttttty nice. Perhaps a dark grey with white text would look nice? :d

[Cwmbran]

I'm not stamping out the idea I'm just stating my opinion, and no, moderators are not allowed to post in a thread telling a member they have broken the rules, it's a bit embarassing really if that happened.


Thanks for clearing that up.
The mod tags do sound like a good idea tbh.

[Judas]

mod tags look better

[hah]

since we are going with things to make the forum look nicer
image align
i know it was installed and then uninstalled?
lol
http://rbguides.com/screenshots/50045dde.png
annouc would look 100x better

[Nicola]

The edit kind of makes it visible to everyone.

I think that's a little different to giving them an explanation telling them what they have done wrong infront of everyone :P

[Hecktix]

Image align tags didn't work here for some reason Graham and we had to remove them.

[Cwmbran]

I think that's a little different to giving them an explanation telling them what they have done wrong infront of everyone :P
I didn't mean a full explanation, I meant something like

"Hey Cwmbran, unfortunatley *insert offence* is against the rules *link to broken rule*. Please try to refrain from this in the future, all the best Moderator."

[hah]

yeah they dont work when you dont put in enough text lol
i think i forgot to tell you that
chf admin told me :L

[Hecktix]

I didn't mean a full explanation, I meant something like

"Hey Cwmbran, unfortunatley *insert offence* is against the rules *link to broken rule*. Please try to refrain from this in the future, all the best Moderator."

Wouldn't that take the thread off topic too? From my experience PMing new members is beneficial is they often make good use of the situation and ask other questions whilst they are PMing you.

[Nemo]

Some people dont always read their posts again, especially if not posted in again by anyone. PMs are generally always read. I win. :D

if ew're talkin bout editing posts

[Cwmbran]

Wouldn't that take the thread off topic too? From my experience PMing new members is beneficial is they often make good use of the situation and ask other questions whilst they are PMing you.

If the new member wanted to discuss it surely they could be asked to PM a member of staff regarding the rule breaking if they wish to take it any further or have any further questions, or it could be left in the post "If theres anything else you'd like to know send me a PM".

[Hecktix]

If the new member wanted to discuss it surely they could be asked to PM a member of staff regarding the rule breaking if they wish to take it any further or have any further questions, or it could be left in the post "If theres anything else you'd like to know send me a PM".

Other people would reply in the thread too, I just feel it has problems all over it - I do see the point however PMs can be just as if not more friendly.

[The Don]

The post qualitiy on the forum is becoming worse. I come on this forum for the graphics forum and general forum. There aren't any decent posts in the discuss anything section, and the few that are good are just flooded onto older pages by stupid how many... or what is your.... threads. They add nothing, aren't interesting to read and are just generally boring.

[Cwmbran]

Other people would reply in the thread too, I just feel it has problems all over it - I do see the point however PMs can be just as if not more friendly.
I do see the problems it could cause but I believe it would make newer members feel more comfortable.
Judging from some of the infraction PM's I got in the past (excluding a few moderators) I felt like I was being talked down to. At least if its in a thread it wouldn't be as intimidating and as a new user I would feel that I'm on the same level if you will as the moderators.

I'm not suggesting it be done constantly with all rule breaking, just on that induction period for new members.

[Hecktix]

I do see the problems it could cause but I believe it would make newer members feel more comfortable.
Judging from some of the infraction PM's I got in the past (excluding a few moderators) I felt like I was being talked down to. At least if its in a thread it wouldn't be as intimidating and as a new user I would feel that I'm on the same level if you will as the moderators.

I'm not suggesting it be done constantly with all rule breaking, just on that induction period for new members.

I check 60% of the PMs that moderators send myself, and most PMs to new users are incredibly friendly, welcoming and polite - talking to the users on the same level as them. The current team of moderators we have really are good at what they do and I wouldn't say any of them are intimidating in their PMs, I understand your concerns though as I have also recieved intimidating contact from moderators in the past however I assure you that this was something we set out to crack down on and I think that has been done reasonably successfully.

[Cwmbran]

I check 60% of the PMs that moderators send myself, and most PMs to new users are incredibly friendly, welcoming and polite - talking to the users on the same level as them. The current team of moderators we have really are good at what they do and I wouldn't say any of them are intimidating in their PMs, I understand your concerns though as I have also recieved intimidating contact from moderators in the past however I assure you that this was something we set out to crack down on and I think that has been done reasonably successfully.

Well as long as the PM's are nothing like the ones we've seen in the past then it should be fine.
Although making new members feel welcome I believe is still an issue, but it is one you can not change.

[Calvin]

I think you should do competitions for non-habbo/forum prizes, such as iTunes vouchers and other things.

[Nemo]

Back to the mod things, we want them! give!

[nvrspk4]

I think Mod Tags are a good idea to be discussed further but I don't think they're that along the topic of this thread - I'd suggest someone else starts the thread, probably whoever first mentioned it. Don't want to steal the idea and make the thread myself :P

[Blinger$]

I think Mod Tags are a good idea to be discussed further but I don't think they're that along the topic of this thread - I'd suggest someone else starts the thread, probably whoever first mentioned it. Don't want to steal the idea and make the thread myself :P
might be a good idea, we are like sheep and follow the popular people

[Nemo]

I think Mod Tags are a good idea to be discussed further but I don't think they're that along the topic of this thread - I'd suggest someone else starts the thread, probably whoever first mentioned it. Don't want to steal the idea and make the thread myself :P
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=657523 (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=657523)

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[Plebings]

I've always felt that the community has become quite enclosed, a lot of times I've been reluctant to post because it feels as if I'd be intruding a conversation between other members and my input wouldn't matter.

People reply more when people reply to their posts, getting to know each other, etcetc
maybe staff could reply a lot more to posts (or inquire more about their thoughts??)

sorry if been said before, 23 pages CBA

[Hecktix]

I've always felt that the community has become quite enclosed, a lot of times I've been reluctant to post because it feels as if I'd be intruding a conversation between other members and my input wouldn't matter.

People reply more when people reply to their posts, getting to know each other, etcetc
maybe staff could reply a lot more to posts (or inquire more about their thoughts??)

sorry if been said before, 23 pages CBA

heyy :) yeah I think staff should reply to posts a lot more and it's something I work closely with the Staff AGM to achieve.
Don't feel like you're intruding anywhere at Habbox, you're welcome wherever and if you don't post then people won't get to know you and you won't get to know them, if you're made to feel unwelcome when you do post then just click the report post button and a moderator will sort it out - nobody should be made to feel unwelcome at HabboxForum.

[Metric1]

Because I post in spam mostly, I am posting but my post count doesn't increase. Also, I have a full-time job now.

[Aidobmac]

I have been noticing the decrease in forum posts for a while and I seriously believe its the staff.

No offence to you Oli your doing great but some of the staff have pickles up there butts! We have been slammed for so many things I mean when someone makes a double post sure its against the rules but when someone comes along acting Superior to them in a way that is pompous it makes the person feel like they dont want to post anymore.....


Just my opinion and there are no direct attacks in that

[Jord]

This forum doesnt appeal to me much anymore, I prefered the old lay out of the forum, Ive switched back to it but still alot of things have changed And I cant get used to it lol

[Art]

I know that since the rep rules were initially changed a couple of years ago they've been relaxed like twice or something but I think that people don't really bother giving rep any more and I think that when it was easier to get people were more inclined to post in debates and proper discussion. Like that people got more rep and was more inclined to post more instead of in some pretty meaningless threads.

I agree. Rep used to be something people aimed towards receiving and now it is pretty much ignored. I think that the star user system (no idea what its called) should not only take join date and post count into consideration, but also the amount of reputation received. Also maybe create some reputation awards for both giving and receiving certain amounts??


I don't post much as I feel the moderators are far too strict, giving warnings for tiny things. I think that they should be a bit more lax. That would allow me to post more. :)

This too. Although I have noticed I have been getting more 'warning warnings', however things like the word filter need to be looked at. I received an infraction for talking about the band LMFAO (probably filtered, ***. EDIT: well well well :P) and when Australia's Tight Ass Tuesday deals came about, we weren't allowed to use the proper wording either.



Another idea is to allow members to swap reputation for donor. Like if you collect xxx amount of rep, you can exchange that for a months donor. Would make people try and earn more rep.

I like this idea :) But only if people started giving out rep more often like they used to :P


Someone asks me a question in the discuss anything i'm sure i replied 'no' then 5 mins later i get a warning from Nicola saying its pointless posting as its 1 word

I actually agree with this. If someone asks a simple question then it should warrant a simple answer.


Just as long as it's not "Welcome to HabboxForum, please read the rules!" because to be honest, I couldn't think of anything worse if I was new.

Yup, agreed. Nothing worse than someone's welcome feeling like something that has been copy and pasted onto every thread.

Also, just a few points;
- The awards seem pretty useless to be honest. Maybe make an option to display one next to your avatar or something??
- I agree that Kazopark seems to give off the impression that Habbox Forum is moving away from Habbo (I know it isn't), but newer members may get this vibe too.
- The TV and Film sections were much more popular (at least as far as I can remember) when they were two separate forums. It just seems like a mess now.
- Why did the rule against referral links come into place? I remember people used to always have them in their signatures and it just seemed like a good way for people to meet others :S idk.
- Lastly, it seems like the large majority of the forum community don't even play Habbo regularly anymore.

[Josh]

I'm sure over the 24 pages this has been said... but the index page is intimidating. You just don't know where to start. :(

[Thomas]

My suggestion is not to worry. It is summer season. :)
Exactly its the summer, most people don't want to be sat down in a room on there laptop like me when the sun is shinning. I bet when the summers over and it starts to get cold all the posts will flood back :)

[Agnostic Bear]

In the D&D Section:
All the people actually experienced with programming are long gone. All the threads are now either: give me programming for free, give me ideas for what to make even though I wont actually make it, give me layouts for free, rate my design, rate my script, test my script.

There are no decent programs, programmers or designers in the section anymore and they don't seem to want to learn, just get a quick script and be content.

I hate those kinds of people (those who aren't willing to learn) so much.

(Note: there are about three (3) 3 (three) people in there willing to learn / already know and are teaching, either by example or other means)

[befas]

i do post in comps but its confusing to find the thing that i want. I had to ask someone in hxhd about how to find the hxhd apps. Also when i do go on a thread most people are havin a confo and i dont wanna but in :/

[ihatehash]

I think everyone wants to talk about different things, and they dont really post in threads that don't interest them. Something that may be interesting to find out, has there also been a decrease in the amount of threads made?

[,elaboratedolls]

I think theres just a lack of interesting posts and a very small amount of new users. Every day theres about 128 people on the forum, and most people on the forum is Habbox staff. I think the forum mostly focuses on competitions. Most people post in the spam thread so I think post count should increase in there. So to be honest, I think people aren't posting as much because of lack of interesting conversations, too many competitions, too little rep being given out, a small variety of users and the forum being too small. Theres a limit of things to do for lets say 1 gold star members so I think they're thinking "Oh I can't do anything here cause I'm a newbie to the forum and I'm not well know." trust me, that's what I thought when I first joined. I'm still sort of thinking that:/

[luce]

Yeah it's summer season so people are off and on holiday and i don't want to sit inside posting on a nice summer day when i am off school. Every single school breaks off school today and people will all be going on holiday etc. I think there should be a posting challenge or something, that would make people do it because if there is something in it for people. The other problem is in general the habbox fansites are on the way down to way less popularity than they used to be, you see it with radio listeners and the forums haven't been affected as much because this one especially attracts people with interests outside habbo. But yeah now i think people are moving away like the older ones and new younger people aren't coming in and being accepting into the community and posting.

[Moh]

The site gets a lot of users, try adding a NICE looking advertisement on the home page :)

[The Don]

I think you should hire some staff who's sole focus is to bring people from habbo onto this forum. Not just Hxhd but like you should get some people who get involved more with the people on habbo because in the hxhd there are barriers blocking the staff from the rest of the people so it makes them feel like they shouldn't speak to them because they are too important or something. You should get some people who host events every so often such as falling furnis, but no kick, they can come in to the hosts section and talk with some of the staff and that will draw them onto this forum.

[Homosexual]

I don't post simply because most threads on here are either spammy or don't apply to non-Habbo'ers.

I know this forum is based on Habbo, but it has it's off-topic sections which aren't alive anymore.

[Hecktix]

i do post in comps but its confusing to find the thing that i want. I had to ask someone in hxhd about how to find the hxhd apps. Also when i do go on a thread most people are havin a confo and i dont wanna but in :/

But in! It's not really butting in you're just getting involved, say what you think - everybody is welcome to post wherever!


I think theres just a lack of interesting posts and a very small amount of new users. Every day theres about 128 people on the forum, and most people on the forum is Habbox staff. I think the forum mostly focuses on competitions. Most people post in the spam thread so I think post count should increase in there. So to be honest, I think people aren't posting as much because of lack of interesting conversations, too many competitions, too little rep being given out, a small variety of users and the forum being too small. Theres a limit of things to do for lets say 1 gold star members so I think they're thinking "Oh I can't do anything here cause I'm a newbie to the forum and I'm not well know." trust me, that's what I thought when I first joined. I'm still sort of thinking that:/

You can do everything at HabboxForum if you are a forum newbie, we aim to ensure Forum Newbs are just as well looked after as our older members. Perhaps you two would benefit from our new idea of a Welcome Comimittee, with someone taking you around the forum and showing you what it is about.


I think you should hire some staff who's sole focus is to bring people from habbo onto this forum. Not just Hxhd but like you should get some people who get involved more with the people on habbo because in the hxhd there are barriers blocking the staff from the rest of the people so it makes them feel like they shouldn't speak to them because they are too important or something. You should get some people who host events every so often such as falling furnis, but no kick, they can come in to the hosts section and talk with some of the staff and that will draw them onto this forum.

I like this idea and we're hopefully gonna incorporate part of the "Welcome Committee"'s responsibility to be this.

[Lost_Addict]

I believe it's just to do with the Summer period and people on holiday.

Personally i still post alot of my main forum (Entertainment) and sometimes on Habbo and Games.
But there is no need to worry about the decline in posters at this time in the year.

Personally if you wanted a suggestion i'd recommend advertising on the Habbox radio as whenever i listen to HBXL i never hear anyone talking about the forum. So if i was a user from another hotel who has recently merged. Have heard about Habbox.com for there radio and rare values apart from the link on the side theres very little to promote the actual forum.

That is my theory anyway.

[samsaBEAR]

For me personally, it's the idiots the forum as started to collect recently. I post just as much as I used to, but there are lots of times where I've gone to post, and just decided not too because whatever I post would be misunderstood by users with a lower intellect than I, and then I would have to explain my point, for them to just go 'LOL I AGREEE :D:D::D:D:D'
As much as I love HxF, I preferred it far more in like 2007 before people left and everyone pretty much knew each other

[Aidobmac]

For me personally, it's the idiots the forum as started to collect recently. I post just as much as I used to, but there are lots of times where I've gone to post, and just decided not too because whatever I post would be misunderstood by users with a lower intellect than I, and then I would have to explain my point, for them to just go 'LOL I AGREEE :D:D::D:D:D'
As much as I love HxF, I preferred it far more in like 2007 before people left and everyone pretty much knew each other

Ive seen that as well.

Post in proper in English where you can. I'm really sick of the "OMG GUIIIZZZZ I lurv you sooossss muches!"

Sigh....