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Superior
24-07-2010, 12:32 PM
I just checked out the sexuality poll which has had a lot of people voting and it turns out 40% of the forum is either gay or bisexual. Now I'm sure you will all agree that 40% is ALOT of people. Most of the other forums I go on including forums like Raptorforum.com and mac-forums.com don't seem to have any gay people at all. I know it's understandable that on a teen forum a lot of people will be confused and trying out different sexualities with all the hormones, especially with all these things that promote being gay in the modern world but 40% still seems a lot. I need to be careful about what I say or otherwise nearly half of the forum could be against me. :P I have nothing against gay people, I completely disagree with it all and that but it's up to you how you live your lives and I have no problem with that, as long as gay people don't "bother" me it's all fine. I still don't think there would be anywhere near as many gay people if parents would tell their children from a young age that it is wrong and with all the media and people such as Lady Gaga who actually promotes being gay, and all these gay couples on tv, I've also found that some people use being gay to get more attention online.
So what do you think about 40% of the forum being gay? I'd love to here everyones opinions no matter what sexuality you are. I'm not having a rant at gay people or anything just voicing my opinion in the least offensive way as this can often be quite a sensitive topic for some people.
Please don't move this thread, I feel that with it being such a wide-spread topic it is better suited here. :)
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It makes it alot funner lol.
And it really doesnīt surprise me if they go on HxF anyway lol, and Iīm not really that bothered anyway, not like itīs a massive issue on a forum :)
Nuxty
24-07-2010, 12:42 PM
Maybe its Habbo thats turns us all gay eh? :P I think its just a coincidence really as its not as if we advertise for gays only etc and as Muct did say we are a massive forum and community so it doesn't matter what we are or what we believe in!
The Don
24-07-2010, 12:44 PM
I thought that was a high percentage aswell, Like in my year group, well I've left now but there was only one boy who was openly gay and no girls were either and there was only one bisexual person. I think because this forum has quite a lot of people still going through puberty, so this may confuse them. Not trying to be offence btw, i'm just saying that some people may be confused and I doubt 40% of this forum is actually that. I'd imagine it to be around 20%. But obviously this is mainly a habbo forum (not sterotyping) but that game can attract gay people and it also attracts younger people hence why more people are going through puberty and are confused... But also because this is the internet, a lot of people will come out because there will be no consequences (such as bullying etc) to them in real life, and a lot of people over the internet are more understanding. So in a sence, it doesn't suprise me that much. Not that there is wrong with anything being gay btw, I have nothing against it.
I think it makes no difference, most people on the forum are cool, gay/bi or not :P
Becca
24-07-2010, 12:59 PM
least everyone can have an e-relationship now!
louder
24-07-2010, 02:53 PM
I still don't think there would be anywhere near as many gay people if parents would tell their children from a young age that it is wrong
well done sir, you win the full of **** badge.
why should parents tell thier children being gay is wrong from a young age? that's absolute ********.
for one, being gay isn't wrong. and besides, the children that are gay are gunna feel well **** when it comes to realising that they are and having to tell them, because they've been told it's wrong all thier life.
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I just checked out the sexuality poll which has had a lot of people voting and it turns out 40% of the forum is either gay or bisexual. Now I'm sure you will all agree that 40% is ALOT of people. Most of the other forums I go on including forums like Raptorforum.com and mac-forums.com don't seem to have any gay people at all. I know it's understandable that on a teen forum a lot of people will be confused and trying out different sexualities with all the hormones, especially with all these things that promote being gay in the modern world but 40% still seems a lot. I need to be careful about what I say or otherwise nearly half of the forum could be against me. :P I have nothing against gay people, I completely disagree with it all and that but it's up to you how you live your lives and I have no problem with that, as long as gay people don't "bother" me it's all fine. I still don't think there would be anywhere near as many gay people if parents would tell their children from a young age that it is wrong and with all the media and people such as Lady Gaga who actually promotes being gay, and all these gay couples on tv, I've also found that some people use being gay to get more attention online.
So what do you think about 40% of the forum being gay? I'd love to here everyones opinions no matter what sexuality you are. I'm not having a rant at gay people or anything just voicing my opinion in the least offensive way as this can often be quite a sensitive topic for some people.
Please don't move this thread, I feel that with it being such a wide-spread topic it is better suited here. :)
I disagree with everything except that a lot of people do it for attention, for example the quote below me
It makes it alot funner lol.
And it really doesnīt surprise me if they go on HxF anyway lol, and Iīm not really that bothered anyway, not like itīs a massive issue on a forum :)
Funner, how?
People can be whatever they want, aslong as they dont do it to try and be funny (because that's so damn annoying), and/or fit in.
The Don
24-07-2010, 03:00 PM
I disagree with everything except that a lot of people do it for attention, for example the quote below me
Funner, how?
People can be whatever they want, aslong as they dont do it to try and be funny (because that's so damn annoying), and/or fit in.
I also hate it when people always go on about there sexual preferences. Like boasting about being gay/starught/whatever. No one cares lol
louder
24-07-2010, 03:03 PM
and all these gay couples on tv,
and for one, you sound like my grandad. an old man who's stuck in his ways. which is ridiculous.
i don't expect anyone over the age of 60 to have the opinion that gays shouldn't be on television.
that's just like 'i don't mind it unless i have to see it'. why? i bet you don't give a **** who you're kissing a girl in front of?
gay people don't kick off about that because they're not *****.
if you're making something like a soap & you're trying to be somewhat realistic, then there's going to be gay people in it.
and if you're talking about presenters & comedians, they still worked there way to the top like everyone else.
and know how they got there? because people like them, and not everyone's as much of a *REMOVED* as you.
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MrPinkPanther
24-07-2010, 03:09 PM
I think it's just the sort of people that Habbo attracts. It's a very open ended sims like game and it's focus is on collecting furniture and dressing up etc, even if they didn't know it at the time I think this is more likely to attract gay people than straight people. What annoys me is when people say they think people on this forum are pretending to be gay to be cool. Sorry but since when has liking the same sex as you been super cool, have I missed something? I mean I'm sure there are maybe one or two people who are pretending just for the sake of it but let's be honest, these people are in a minority. Homo people are more likely to be camp online because they are in a more comfortable and safe environment. I mean you'd be stupid to walk into a city centre dressed in pink talking about Homosexuality wouldn't you?.
Not to mention that I don't trust the results of the poll, people who aren't straight are going to be more interested in it and more likely to click on it in my opinion. Nonetheless the gay population of this forum is abnormally high.
Just my two cents :)
Superior
24-07-2010, 04:12 PM
well done sir, you win the full of **** badge.
why should parents tell thier children being gay is wrong from a young age? that's absolute ********.
for one, being gay isn't wrong. and besides, the children that are gay are gunna feel well **** when it comes to realising that they are and having to tell them, because they've been told it's wrong all thier life.
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and for one, you sound like my grandad. an old man who's stuck in his ways. which is ridiculous.
i don't expect anyone over the age of 60 to have the opinion that gays shouldn't be on television.
that's just like 'i don't mind it unless i have to see it'. why? i bet you don't give a **** who you're kissing a girl in front of?
gay people don't kick off about that because they're not *****.
if you're making something like a soap & you're trying to be somewhat realistic, then there's going to be gay people in it.
and if you're talking about presenters & comedians, they still worked there way to the top like everyone else.
and know how they got there? because people like them, and not everyone's as much of a *REMOVED* as you.
god, you've annoyed me you *REMOVED*
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Why are you having a hissy fit? I haven't said anything at all to purposely offend anyone so I apologise if you are in some way offended... Just out of interest, are you gay?
If parents bring up a child saying that same sex love is fine, the child is going to be more happy to try it out and experiment with themselves whether they like men or woman more, don't forget this is during puberty - a very dangerous time with all the hormones and confusion considering decisions they make now could effect them for their whole life. If however the child knows that men aren't suppose to love men or woman aren't supposed to love woman then the chances of them turning out gay is going to be a lot smaller. I have heard of many cases were teenagers have been too scared to tell their parents that they think they are gay but when they got older and have passed through puberty they realised that they were just confused and not actually gay, the fear of coming out saved them in the end once they had got settled down.
And about me caring who see's me when I kiss girls in public, why should I need to care? You can't compare a male and a female kissing to 2 men kissing, the 2 men are obviously going to stand out more and get frowned upon by members of the public. The percentage of gay people hasn't risen over the years for no reason, it wasn't so long ago when there were hardly no gay people. You can tell me that they were scared to come out but in my opinion I just think that the reason there weren't nearly as many gay people is because nobody had really ever thought about it. The percentage has only started going up since people promoted it and it is becoming more and more common in everyday life, it makes people start to think it is ok when that is far from the point. After all, God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.
Hecktix
24-07-2010, 04:13 PM
After all, God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.
That quote is from a televangelist called Jerry Falwell, are you a Christian Fundamentalist?
Superior
24-07-2010, 04:20 PM
That quote is from a televangelist called Jerry Falwell, are you a Christian Fundamentalist?
No not at all, I heard that saying quite a while ago but I like to use it because I think it carries a lot of truth behind it. Is Jerry Falwell one of them people who have them God channels on TV were it is basically a man speaking about a load of Holy nonsense to a group of people in church? Them programmes are sooo boring. :P
Hecktix
24-07-2010, 04:25 PM
No not at all, I heard that saying quite a while ago but I like to use it because I think it carries a lot of truth behind it. Is Jerry Falwell one of them people who have them God channels on TV were it is basically a man speaking about a load of Holy nonsense to a group of people in church? Them programmes are sooo boring. :P
Yeah, he founded a group in America called the Moral Majority and is what is known as a Christian Fundamentalist - he preaches that Christ will return and if you haven't converted by the time he does then you will suffer the punishment he gives you, gays are wrong, abortions are wrong etc - all the really serious religious stuff.
I'd just never seen anyone use the quote in a context like that before when they weren't talking from a religious stance.
I don't think 40% of the HabboxForum is gay to be honest, that poll isn't too representative. Either way I don't care, anybody's welcome here :)
louder
24-07-2010, 04:31 PM
Why are you having a hissy fit? I haven't said anything at all to purposely offend anyone so I apologise if you are in some way offended... Just out of interest, are you gay?
If parents bring up a child saying that same sex love is fine, the child is going to be more happy to try it out and experiment with themselves whether they like men or woman more, don't forget this is during puberty - a very dangerous time with all the hormones and confusion considering decisions they make now could effect them for their whole life. If however the child knows that men aren't suppose to love men or woman aren't supposed to love woman then the chances of them turning out gay is going to be a lot smaller. I have heard of many cases were teenagers have been too scared to tell their parents that they think they are gay but when they got older and have passed through puberty they realised that they were just confused and not actually gay, the fear of coming out saved them in the end once they had got settled down.
And about me caring who see's me when I kiss girls in public, why should I need to care? You can't compare a male and a female kissing to 2 men kissing, the 2 men are obviously going to stand out more and get frowned upon by members of the public. The percentage of gay people hasn't risen over the years for no reason, it wasn't so long ago when there were hardly no gay people. You can tell me that they were scared to come out but in my opinion I just think that the reason there weren't nearly as many gay people is because nobody had really ever thought about it. The percentage has only started going up since people promoted it and it is becoming more and more common in everyday life, it makes people start to think it is ok when that is far from the point. After all, God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.
no, i'm not gay.
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Superior
24-07-2010, 04:37 PM
no, i'm not gay.
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinions so fair enough. But to be honest even though you say that I'm chatting a load of bull, I think that I have said something that you know is true which you don't like, why else would you be getting so angry, especially considering you are supposedly not even gay?
louder
24-07-2010, 04:43 PM
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions so fair enough. But to be honest even though you say that I'm chatting a load of bull, I think that I have said something that you know is true which you don't like, why else would you be getting so angry, especially considering you are supposedly not even gay?
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i give up. i'll let somebody else put you in your place. you're making me far too angry.
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Special
24-07-2010, 05:02 PM
doesn't bother me at all lol why should it lol
Superior
24-07-2010, 05:07 PM
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i give up. i'll let somebody else put you in your place. you're making me far too angry.
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How am I making you angry? :P
I'm confused now, nobody else who has posted seems to be angry at all and I have read over all my posts twice before posting to make sure they don't come over as targeting or trying to offend gay people so I don't understand what's up with you. Don't be so shocked that you have found someone with a different view on sexuality to you. :rolleyes:
Catzsy
24-07-2010, 05:07 PM
Lets be clear on something that 40% of the members that voted in the sexuality thread said they are gay/bisexual - it does not prove that 40% of the forum are. In any event it wouldn't matter to me if 20% or 80% were. I find this thread as a bit of a non event tbh. I would like to think we live in more enlightened times.
-:Undertaker:-
24-07-2010, 06:02 PM
Why are you having a hissy fit? I haven't said anything at all to purposely offend anyone so I apologise if you are in some way offended... Just out of interest, are you gay?
If parents bring up a child saying that same sex love is fine, the child is going to be more happy to try it out and experiment with themselves whether they like men or woman more, don't forget this is during puberty - a very dangerous time with all the hormones and confusion considering decisions they make now could effect them for their whole life. If however the child knows that men aren't suppose to love men or woman aren't supposed to love woman then the chances of them turning out gay is going to be a lot smaller. I have heard of many cases were teenagers have been too scared to tell their parents that they think they are gay but when they got older and have passed through puberty they realised that they were just confused and not actually gay, the fear of coming out saved them in the end once they had got settled down.
And about me caring who see's me when I kiss girls in public, why should I need to care? You can't compare a male and a female kissing to 2 men kissing, the 2 men are obviously going to stand out more and get frowned upon by members of the public. The percentage of gay people hasn't risen over the years for no reason, it wasn't so long ago when there were hardly no gay people. You can tell me that they were scared to come out but in my opinion I just think that the reason there weren't nearly as many gay people is because nobody had really ever thought about it. The percentage has only started going up since people promoted it and it is becoming more and more common in everyday life, it makes people start to think it is ok when that is far from the point. After all, God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.
A child will not 'try out' lads because he's curious for the sake of it, he'll try it out with lads either because he's totally pissed (in which case he'll barely remember who his mum & dad are, let alone what their stance is on homosexuality) or because he wants to try it out, meaning he is already attracted to guys.
The second point, you are confusing people being sexually confused with opinions. This is what i've argued in the past with others aswell, homosexuality is not influence by surrondings or the opinions of those who are around you - it is natural. It can, I believe, influence personality which is where the sterotype comes from - but you can still get a raging gay guy who plays rugby and does all things sterotypical guys do.
As for you referring to the bible - do you drink? are you going to have sex before marriage? if the answer is yes to either, then why are you picking on that one issue (adam and steve) when its clear you are not remotely religious. I am with many and most likely also yourself who dislike the militant gays, the gay parades and the in-your-face ones.
As Rosie said it's not so much 40% of the forum but 40% of the people who post in the poll. Admittedly a small amount will probably be confused or consider themselves bisexual when in fact they will grow up and get married and have children in a straight relationship.
There is a high amount of homosexuals on this forum but I think it is roughly representative of homosexuals in real life. As you grow up and get old (like me) and spend a lot of time amongst adults you find there are a lot more people "out" in the real working world etc. While at school and to some extent college a lot of people are still ashamed to come out and keep it secret, whereas on Habbo / the forum people can be a lot more open about their sexuality with the expectation most people don't care (because it's a forum) and they will be protected in the instance that people decide to mock them for it.
Special
24-07-2010, 06:16 PM
Why are you having a hissy fit? I haven't said anything at all to purposely offend anyone so I apologise if you are in some way offended... Just out of interest, are you gay?
If parents bring up a child saying that same sex love is fine, the child is going to be more happy to try it out and experiment with themselves whether they like men or woman more, don't forget this is during puberty - a very dangerous time with all the hormones and confusion considering decisions they make now could effect them for their whole life. If however the child knows that men aren't suppose to love men or woman aren't supposed to love woman then the chances of them turning out gay is going to be a lot smaller. I have heard of many cases were teenagers have been too scared to tell their parents that they think they are gay but when they got older and have passed through puberty they realised that they were just confused and not actually gay, the fear of coming out saved them in the end once they had got settled down.
And about me caring who see's me when I kiss girls in public, why should I need to care? You can't compare a male and a female kissing to 2 men kissing, the 2 men are obviously going to stand out more and get frowned upon by members of the public. The percentage of gay people hasn't risen over the years for no reason, it wasn't so long ago when there were hardly no gay people. You can tell me that they were scared to come out but in my opinion I just think that the reason there weren't nearly as many gay people is because nobody had really ever thought about it. The percentage has only started going up since people promoted it and it is becoming more and more common in everyday life, it makes people start to think it is ok when that is far from the point. After all, God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.
you come accross very homopbic & biast here.... you seem to be quite obsessed with the whole 'gay' thing
having said that, you ought to be because the facts & statistics you are pulling out of no where make no sence..... obviously there is going to be more gay people now because of the general population across the world is always rising
it wasn't so long ago when there were hardly no gay people
are you kidding me.... there was the same number give or take as now, it's just now gay people are more genrally accepted
After all, God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.
OHH so you're religious now? i'm assuming you don't drink, have sex and dislike homosexuals at all ... that explains alot
the 2 men are obviously going to stand out more and get frowned upon by members of the publicbut i'm sure you wouldn't mind if you say 2 hot girls getting it off.....
-:Undertaker:-
24-07-2010, 06:19 PM
you come accross very homopbic & biast here.... you seem to be quite obsessed with the whole 'gay' thing
Don't throw the homophobic tag around here, it just makes you look like a reactionary which more to the point; he hasn't said or done anything 'homophobic' - whatever that word means now, because its actual definition is a fear of gays which i'm sure only a very very small slice of the population actually are.
To dislike homosexuals or to even hate isn't really homophobia, its just hatred/dislike of something. A phobia is to fear something, and the words homophobic/homophobia have been hijacked by the PC brigade/the militant gays as a way of silencing anybody who doesnt agree with homosexuality.
Special
24-07-2010, 06:28 PM
Don't throw the homophobic tag around here, it just makes you look like a reactionary which more to the point; he hasn't said or done anything 'homophobic' - whatever that word means now, because its actual definition is a fear of gays which i'm sure only a very very small slice of the population actually are.
To dislike homosexuals or to even hate isn't really homophobia, its just hatred/dislike of something. A phobia is to fear something, and the words homophobic/homophobia have been hijacked by the PC brigade/the militant gays as a way of silencing anybody who doesnt agree with homosexuality.
ok i don't need a lesson on what homophobic means thanks.. being gay myself i'm fully aware of what it means
and he was coming across as homophobic
You can't compare a male and a female kissing to 2 men kissing, the 2 men are obviously going to stand out more and get frowned upon by members of the public that to me is homophobic lol... and it it isn't then i apologize to whoever it concerns (mainly you) but please don't patronize me
-:Undertaker:-
24-07-2010, 06:31 PM
ok i don't need a lesson on what homophobic means thanks.. being gay myself i'm fully aware of what it means
and he was coming across as homophobic that to me is homophobic lol... and it it isn't then i apologize to whoever it concerns (mainly you) but please don't patronize me
Where is the fear or hatred of homosexuals in what he said there?
There is none, the more you throw phrases around like that the more you build yourself up as a militant - which only worsens the problem. The guy has posted his opinions yet now he's being called a homophobe, all thats going to do is to make him stand his ground more.
MrPinkPanther
24-07-2010, 06:32 PM
I am with many and most likely also yourself who dislike the militant gays, the gay parades and the in-your-face ones.
Hello darling <3
This thread is gay tbh.
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Describe
24-07-2010, 06:32 PM
I don't care if it has been posted before, I didn't read through.
Point: 40% of the forum isn't gay, 40% of the users who took that poll are gay. You're never going to get a poll here that every registered user takes so you can't make up the assumption that 40% are gay. Either way, I'm not gay. It's better that way.
MrPinkPanther
24-07-2010, 06:33 PM
Either way, I'm not gay. It's better that way.
and yet you can rhyme, any time.
Describe
24-07-2010, 06:35 PM
and yet you can rhyme, any time.
You don't have to be gay to rhyme, lol.
MrPinkPanther
24-07-2010, 06:37 PM
You don't have to be gay to rhyme, lol.
You have to be bisexual or over. Fact.
Superior
24-07-2010, 07:28 PM
Nice to see what other people have to say about this.
Undertaker you have some good points in your first post and you are also right about the whole homophobia thing which get's thrown around too easily.
The statistics are also not very valid or reliable at all. It's nearly 40% of the people who voted in the poll, 162 people voted in the poll and the poll was made in January 2010. So I still think that 162 users represents a large majority of the current active users considering a 8:30pm on a saturday night (now) which I am assuming is a busy time for the forum if that makes sense, there are just 70 members online.
louder
24-07-2010, 07:30 PM
Nice to see what other people have to say about this.
Undertaker you have some good points in your first post and you are also right about the whole homophobia thing which get's thrown around too easily.
The statistics are also not very valid or reliable at all. It's nearly 40% of the people who voted in the poll, 162 people voted in the poll and the poll was made in January 2010. So I still think that 162 users represents a large majority of the current active users considering a 8:30pm on a saturday night (now) which I am assuming is a busy time for the forum if that makes sense, there are just 70 members online.
saturday night is when people go out.
Superior
24-07-2010, 07:34 PM
saturday night is when people go out.
This is a Habbo forum.
Catzsy
24-07-2010, 08:15 PM
Nice to see what other people have to say about this.
Undertaker you have some good points in your first post and you are also right about the whole homophobia thing which get's thrown around too easily.
The statistics are also not very valid or reliable at all. It's nearly 40% of the people who voted in the poll, 162 people voted in the poll and the poll was made in January 2010. So I still think that 162 users represents a large majority of the current active users considering a 8:30pm on a saturday night (now) which I am assuming is a busy time for the forum if that makes sense, there are just 70 members online.
That's 162 over a very long period of time and in a day many 100s visit Habbox. :) You did not reply to my previous post as to why you actually found it necessary to point out this because it's just a fact of life these days for society to just accept people's sexuality for what it is. It is not as if they can be anything else - they are born with it.
@ Dan - I thought you were all for civil liberties and then don't like Gay festivals etc. What would you do about them if you were in Government? It's like in another thread where you feel that minority white areas are wrong. Do you think minority black areas are wrong too?
Superior
24-07-2010, 08:26 PM
That's 162 over a very long period of time and in a day many 100s visit Habbox. :) You did not reply to my previous post as to why you actually found it necessary to point out this because it's just a fact of life these days for society to just accept people's sexuality for what it is. It is not as if they can be anything else - they are born with it.
@ Dan - I thought you were all for civil liberties and then don't like Gay festivals etc. What would you do about them if you were in Government? It's like in another thread where you feel that minority white areas are wrong. Do you think minority black areas are wrong too?
Well that's the problem, some or should I say a lot of people in todays society do not accept it. The reason I have pointed it out was because I was pretty astonished at how many people in that poll were gay/homosexual, if someone said to me "Ok we have visited a random forum and created a poll which asks the users sexuality, we left the poll on a sticky for 7 months and the results are 40% gay/homo 60% straight, what type of forum do you think it was?" I'd probably guess something like a clothes fashion forum or a hairdressers forum, you'd obviously be trying to think of something that involves a lot of gay people. It's just crazy to say that it is a fact of life, yes gays and homos are going to be a fact of life but not on a scale like that. So is this what the next generation of people are going to be like then, nearly half of us gay?
Catzsy
24-07-2010, 08:32 PM
Well that's the problem, some or should I say a lot of people in todays society do not accept it. The reason I have pointed it out was because I was pretty astonished at how many people in that poll were gay/homosexual, if someone said to me "Ok we have visited a random forum and created a poll which asks the users sexuality, we left the poll on a sticky for 7 months and the results are 40% gay/homo 60% straight, what type of forum do you think it was?" I'd probably guess something like a clothes fashion forum or a hairdressers forum, you'd obviously be trying to think of something that involves a lot of gay people. It's just crazy to say that it is a fact of life, yes gays and homos are going to be a fact of life but not on a scale like that. So is this what the next generation of people are going to be like then, nearly half of us gay?
Well I guess if you took the survey at face value, maybe but it has been there a very long time so really can't be relied upon at all. Also if half the population in the future are born gay - yes that's going to happen but otherwise it isn't. That really isn't likely to happen is it? Kinda illogical statement.
MrPinkPanther
24-07-2010, 08:37 PM
I don't believe you are born gay, all indicators point towards it being a social thing. This is why we have seen a growth in homosexuality over the past few decades because of a change in society making Britain a very different place. However I think 40% is un-realistically high, I'd say it's around 10% or possibly up to 20% at most. However if it was 40% then I don't necessarily think that it would be a bad thing.
Catzsy
24-07-2010, 08:41 PM
I don't believe you are born gay, all indicators point towards it being a social thing. This is why we have seen a growth in homosexuality over the past few decades because of a change in society making Britain a very different place. However I think 40% is un-realistically high, I'd say it's around 10% or possibly up to 20% at most. However if it was 40% then I don't necessarily think that it would be a bad thing.
I seriously think that to be to gay ie attracted to the same sex has to be inbuilt in you from the time you are born. I possibly might agree with the Bi-sexual element as it seems to have become 'more fashionable' to say you experiment with both sexes.
MrPinkPanther
24-07-2010, 08:48 PM
I seriously think that to be to gay ie attracted to the same sex has to be inbuilt in you from the time you are born. I possibly might agree with the Bi-sexual element as it seems to have become 'more fashionable' to say you experiment with both sexes.
There is no kind of bodily indicator if someone is homosexual or not until they reach puberty, so to me it seems most likely that it is the body responding to the persons social situation. This explains why homosexuality thrives in certain areas and circumstances. For example did you know that statistics indicate that for each Brother a Male has he is approximately 33% more likely to be Gay?
Superior
24-07-2010, 08:48 PM
I don't believe you are born gay, all indicators point towards it being a social thing. This is why we have seen a growth in homosexuality over the past few decades because of a change in society making Britain a very different place. However I think 40% is un-realistically high, I'd say it's around 10% or possibly up to 20% at most. However if it was 40% then I don't necessarily think that it would be a bad thing.
I agree with this. But as I have said from the start, social acceptance to gay/homosexual = more people experimenting with it.
MrPinkPanther
24-07-2010, 08:51 PM
I agree with this. But as I have said from the start, social acceptance to gay/homosexual = more people experimenting with it.
For sure, you can experiment without being gay yourself :). In fact surely it can almost be disproven to be purely genetic because identical twins may have different sexual orientations to one another.
JustRG3
24-07-2010, 08:51 PM
Every forum I use they say it's full of homosexuals.
Catzsy
24-07-2010, 08:52 PM
There is no kind of bodily indicator if someone is homosexual or not until they reach puberty, so to me it seems most likely that it is the body responding to the persons social situation. This explains why homosexuality thrives in certain areas and circumstances. For example did you know that statistics indicate that for each Brother a Male has he is approximately 33% more likely to be Gay?
Yes I see what you are saying but where does the physical attraction come from in the first place? Surely there has to be some genetic predisposition in respect of gay. Bisexual I can understand because it's almost become a fashion accessory these days.
MrPinkPanther
24-07-2010, 08:53 PM
Every forum I use they say it's full of homosexuals.
I think this says a lot about what websites you use ^^
Yes I see what you are saying but where does the physical attraction come from in the first place? Surely there has to be some genetic predisposition in respect of gay. Bisexual I can understand because it's almost become a fashion accessory these days.
I'm not so sure. Despite all of the research Scientists have found no evidence to support the theory that it is genetic. Of course it would be naive to say this means it cannot be genetic because it clearly could but I personally believe evidence points to it being environmental. For example if some sexual disruption has been caused to someone when they are younger they are more likely to be homosexual. So essentially people who were abused whilst they were young are actually more likely to be Gay, this kind of thing clearly has nothing to do with genetics. Nonetheless it is an interesting topic :)
I read somewhere ages ago that it was something to do with the size of the brain on both sides or summet, not sure about that though īcus it was ages ago, and I read some really random **** anyway, so k.
Think it was summet like a straight persons brain is 2% bigger on one side or summet, and a gay/lesbian is the same on both sides, if itīs wrong please donīt ask wth I read in my time but yeah it was ages ago and Iīve probably got it confused with summet.
Dinosaurawrr
24-07-2010, 09:22 PM
I don't think it matters.
There all people and people we like to be around or we woulden't be here :).
-:Undertaker:-
24-07-2010, 09:51 PM
That's 162 over a very long period of time and in a day many 100s visit Habbox. :) You did not reply to my previous post as to why you actually found it necessary to point out this because it's just a fact of life these days for society to just accept people's sexuality for what it is. It is not as if they can be anything else - they are born with it.
@ Dan - I thought you were all for civil liberties and then don't like Gay festivals etc. What would you do about them if you were in Government? It's like in another thread where you feel that minority white areas are wrong. Do you think minority black areas are wrong too?
I'm not against gay parades and so forth, but I don't think they should be funded by the taxpayer, no. I believe the taxpayers money belongs in the pocket of the taxpayer and not pandering to something which (whether people like it or not) is something many would consider distasteful. If people wish to organise, fund and attend them then thats their choice and not that of my own - but I would argue it only serves to harm their 'cause' - a cause which in reality, doesnt exist and is only peddled by the militant gays.
I have no problems with gay parades provided taxpayer money doesn't go towards them, however I do believe that gay parades only worsen the divide and give gay people a bad light and henceforth why I personally would never take part in one or be tempted to visit.
The racial issue I touched on was showing the ghettoisation thats occuring in this country, it's not the skin colour I have the problem with - its the problems it creates and will create in the future. To have a minority white area at this point in time in 2010 just shows the uncontrolled pace that we have allowed immigration to take place. It doesn't really tend to be black people either as black immigration was more so after the second world war - and i've pointed to in the past how that type of controlled immigration worked and has continued to work well.
The main groups with the ghettoisation problem concerned are those of non-christian faiths, as well as Eastern European immigation. It needs some form of control otherwise Rivers of Blood will sadly become a fact in the coming decades.
Yes I see what you are saying but where does the physical attraction come from in the first place? Surely there has to be some genetic predisposition in respect of gay. Bisexual I can understand because it's almost become a fashion accessory these days.
I agree, the idea that surroundings influence you makes no sense at all - you can have the straightest of guys turning out gay. I personally think the link between personality and orientation comes from the genetic side the same it does with women, where most women (and a great portion of gay fellas also) are more feminine. I think personality in general has a lot to do with genes rather than surroundings.
Judas
24-07-2010, 09:58 PM
people such as Lady Gaga who actually promotes being gay
she promotes gay rights, she doesnt go around telling everyone to be gay. and why "actually" promotes it, as if it is a bad thing?
Inseriousity.
24-07-2010, 10:03 PM
I thought that was a high percentage aswell, Like in my year group, well I've left now but there was only one boy who was openly gay and no girls were either and there was only one bisexual person. I think because this forum has quite a lot of people still going through puberty, so this may confuse them. Not trying to be offence btw, i'm just saying that some people may be confused and I doubt 40% of this forum is actually that. I'd imagine it to be around 20%. But obviously this is mainly a habbo forum (not sterotyping) but that game can attract gay people and it also attracts younger people hence why more people are going through puberty and are confused... But also because this is the internet, a lot of people will come out because there will be no consequences (such as bullying etc) to them in real life, and a lot of people over the internet are more understanding. So in a sence, it doesn't suprise me that much. Not that there is wrong with anything being gay btw, I have nothing against it.
I think your last point pretty much sums up the results. I remember this guy on facebook announcing he was in a relationship with another guy and everything was like 'wth?!!' cos he didn't really seem the type. The point being, it's really hard to tell and maybe, especially amongst teenagers, it's not as rare as it looks. :D
Superior
24-07-2010, 10:04 PM
she promotes gay rights, she doesnt go around telling everyone to be gay. and why "actually" promotes it, as if it is a bad thing?
Because it isn't exactly a good thing... We need men and woman to love each over, how else are the human race suppose to carry on? I ended up going to to a lady gaga concert, she was shouting stuff like "let me hear all my gay boys scream" it was just a nightmare, I looked over to my dad (yes he got tricked into going as well) and we just gave each over a knowingly stare.
i didnt read most of the thread but 90% of them people who voted gay/bisexual just act it and arent really gay at all lol
Catzsy
24-07-2010, 10:17 PM
I'm not against gay parades and so forth, but I don't think they should be funded by the taxpayer, no. I believe the taxpayers money belongs in the pocket of the taxpayer and not pandering to something which (whether people like it or not) is something many would consider distasteful. If people wish to organise, fund and attend them then thats their choice and not that of my own - but I would argue it only serves to harm their 'cause' - a cause which in reality, doesnt exist and is only peddled by the militant gays.
I have no problems with gay parades provided taxpayer money doesn't go towards them, however I do believe that gay parades only worsen the divide and give gay people a bad light and henceforth why I personally would never take part in one or be tempted to visit.
The racial issue I touched on was showing the ghettoisation thats occuring in this country, it's not the skin colour I have the problem with - its the problems it creates and will create in the future. To have a minority white area at this point in time in 2010 just shows the uncontrolled pace that we have allowed immigration to take place. It doesn't really tend to be black people either as black immigration was more so after the second world war - and i've pointed to in the past how that type of controlled immigration worked and has continued to work well.
The main groups with the ghettoisation problem concerned are those of non-christian faiths, as well as Eastern European immigation. It needs some form of control otherwise Rivers of Blood will sadly become a fact in the coming decades.
I agree, the idea that surroundings influence you makes no sense at all - you can have the straightest of guys turning out gay. I personally think the link between personality and orientation comes from the genetic side the same it does with women, where most women (and a great portion of gay fellas also) are more feminine. I think personality in general has a lot to do with genes rather than surroundings.
All fair comments as now explained.
Superior
24-07-2010, 10:46 PM
I think this says a lot about what websites you use ^^
I'm not so sure. Despite all of the research Scientists have found no evidence to support the theory that it is genetic. Of course it would be naive to say this means it cannot be genetic because it clearly could but I personally believe evidence points to it being environmental. For example if some sexual disruption has been caused to someone when they are younger they are more likely to be homosexual. So essentially people who were abused whilst they were young are actually more likely to be Gay, this kind of thing clearly has nothing to do with genetics. Nonetheless it is an interesting topic :)
Got to be a pretty interesting topic to get 6 pages in a day. :P
louder
24-07-2010, 11:30 PM
Because it isn't exactly a good thing... We need men and woman to love each over, how else are the human race suppose to carry on? I ended up going to to a lady gaga concert, she was shouting stuff like "let me hear all my gay boys scream" it was just a nightmare, I looked over to my dad (yes he got tricked into going as well) and we just gave each over a knowingly stare.
that doesn't mean that she's promoting it.
it's just like saying 'let me hear all the lady's scream'
there was people like you going back maybe as early as 40 years ago who would disagree with that, and it's stupid.
EDIT; by that, i mean saying things like 'let me hear all the ladies scream'. didn't know if it was clear.
yes, men & women do need to love eachother for the human race to continue, however that doesn't mean that people shouldn't be gay.
and promoting gay rights is a good thing, to try & change people like your's opinions.
like how nelson mandella tried to stop aparthied. there was people just like you saying it shouldn't happen. because of elitists like you.
if there wasn't people like you around, the world would be a better place, because everybody would get on.
-:Undertaker:-
24-07-2010, 11:38 PM
that doesn't mean that she's promoting it.
it's just like saying 'let me hear all the lady's scream'
there was people like you going back maybe as early as 40 years ago who would disagree with that, and it's stupid.
EDIT; by that, i mean saying things like 'let me hear all the ladies scream'. didn't know if it was clear.
yes, men & women do need to love eachother for the human race to continue, however that doesn't mean that people shouldn't be gay.
and promoting gay rights is a good thing, to try & change people like your's opinions.
like how nelson mandella tried to stop aparthied. there was people just like you saying it shouldn't happen. because of elitists like you.
if there wasn't people like you around, the world would be a better place, because everybody would get on.
That is not a good example to cite. Nelson Mandela and the ANC were a terrorist organisation who targeted innocent people and used disgusting methods of torture/killing to achieve their aims, my Dad lived through the beginnings of that period. 'Necklacing' being one part of the bigger picture which is simply horrific - I would not wish it even on the most evil of peoples.
Concerning gay rights, gay rights have already been achieved without the exception of full gay legal marriage. This is what i've been getting at, forcing homosexuality down peoples throats just turns people against gay people in general and divides people. If gay is to be accepted a normal and as equal, then it needs to be treated in that way - not in a supreme way but in an equal way.
louder
24-07-2010, 11:45 PM
That is not a good example to cite. Nelson Mandela and the ANC were a terrorist organisation who targeted innocent people and used disgusting methods of torture/killing to achieve their aims, my Dad lived through the beginnings of that period. 'Necklacing' being one part of the bigger picture which is simply horrific - I would not wish it even on the most evil of peoples.
my bad.
The Don
24-07-2010, 11:50 PM
how can you even compare lady gaga to nelson Mandela and gay rights to aparteid? Nowhere do gay people get seperated to straight people and lady gaga shouting let me hear all my gay men scream is hardly standing up for gay rights... In what way does that defend gay rights? I don't think same sex relationships are right, however I think they should be allowed. I'm not against them but I'm also not for them. Tbh I think gay people should be allowed to kiss each other in public as they should be treated the same as straight people however I think the increase in the ammount of gay people is due to it being accepted more. The reason there are so many on the forum is because this is a habbo forum. I hope no one takes offence to my post as I have nothing wrong with gay people infact a I have a gay friend.
that doesn't mean that she's promoting it.
it's just like saying 'let me hear all the lady's scream'
there was people like you going back maybe as early as 40 years ago who would disagree with that, and it's stupid.
EDIT; by that, i mean saying things like 'let me hear all the ladies scream'. didn't know if it was clear.
yes, men & women do need to love eachother for the human race to continue, however that doesn't mean that people shouldn't be gay.
and promoting gay rights is a good thing, to try & change people like your's opinions.
like how nelson mandella tried to stop aparthied. there was people just like you saying it shouldn't happen. because of elitists like you.
if there wasn't people like you around, the world would be a better place, because everybody would get on.
---------- Post added 25-07-2010 at 12:50 AM ----------
how can you even compare lady gaga to nelson Mandela and gay rights to aparteid? Nowhere do gay people get seperated to straight people and lady gaga shouting let me hear all my gay men scream is hardly standing up for gay rights... In what way does that defend gay rights? I don't think same sex relationships are right, however I think they should be allowed. I'm not against them but I'm also not for them. Tbh I think gay people should be allowed to kiss each other in public as they should be treated the same as straight people however I think the increase in the ammount of gay people is due to it being accepted more. The reason there are so many on the forum is because this is a habbo forum. I hope no one takes offence to my post as I have nothing wrong with gay people infact a I have a gay friend.
that doesn't mean that she's promoting it.
it's just like saying 'let me hear all the lady's scream'
there was people like you going back maybe as early as 40 years ago who would disagree with that, and it's stupid.
EDIT; by that, i mean saying things like 'let me hear all the ladies scream'. didn't know if it was clear.
yes, men & women do need to love eachother for the human race to continue, however that doesn't mean that people shouldn't be gay.
and promoting gay rights is a good thing, to try & change people like your's opinions.
like how nelson mandella tried to stop aparthied. there was people just like you saying it shouldn't happen. because of elitists like you.
if there wasn't people like you around, the world would be a better place, because everybody would get on.
louder
24-07-2010, 11:53 PM
how can you even compare lady gaga to nelson Mandela and gay rights to aparteid? Nowhere do gay people get seperated to straight people and lady gaga shouting let me hear all my gay men scream is hardly standing up for gay rights... In what way does that defend gay rights?
my point was that not so long a go there were people who didn't like black people, and didn't think they should have rights.
now he's saying gay people shouldn't have rights like being abe to kiss in public.
i know they're extremes, but it's a similar idea.
cocaine
24-07-2010, 11:56 PM
i dont care if they're gay but when people shove it in your face or constantly drone on about it, it gets rather tiresome
The Don
25-07-2010, 12:06 AM
Ah ok, I think I misunderstood you :P although there will always be people who dislike black people, White people , gays, people of different religions however I think it's unfair
that gay people don't have the same rights as everyone else. If black people or White people were only allowed to have civil mariges and not get fully married there would be outrage. I think eventually it will just be a part or everyday life and more accepted like how black people are accepted In England now and it's comon for interacial marriages now.
Superior
25-07-2010, 12:21 AM
Are the BNP against homosexuality? Just wondering cause on the news some guy had to get escorted out of the building by Nick Griffins bodyguards, he was shouting stuff like "I hate you BNP you attack muslims and homosexuality" or something.
louder
25-07-2010, 01:51 AM
Are the BNP against homosexuality? Just wondering cause on the news some guy had to get escorted out of the building by Nick Griffins bodyguards, he was shouting stuff like "I hate you BNP you attack muslims and homosexuality" or something.
you gunna start supporting the bnp if they do?
wouldn't surprise me. 8-)
wouldn't be suprised if its a higher percentage
HotelUser
25-07-2010, 03:23 AM
Are the BNP against homosexuality? Just wondering cause on the news some guy had to get escorted out of the building by Nick Griffins bodyguards, he was shouting stuff like "I hate you BNP you attack muslims and homosexuality" or something.
Yes, they are against homosexual people.
I just checked out the sexuality poll which has had a lot of people voting and it turns out 40% of the forum is either gay or bisexual. Now I'm sure you will all agree that 40% is ALOT of people. Most of the other forums I go on including forums like Raptorforum.com and mac-forums.com don't seem to have any gay people at all. I know it's understandable that on a teen forum a lot of people will be confused and trying out different sexualities with all the hormones, especially with all these things that promote being gay in the modern world but 40% still seems a lot. I need to be careful about what I say or otherwise nearly half of the forum could be against me. :P I have nothing against gay people, I completely disagree with it all and that but it's up to you how you live your lives and I have no problem with that, as long as gay people don't "bother" me it's all fine. I still don't think there would be anywhere near as many gay people if parents would tell their children from a young age that it is wrong and with all the media and people such as Lady Gaga who actually promotes being gay, and all these gay couples on tv, I've also found that some people use being gay to get more attention online.
So what do you think about 40% of the forum being gay? I'd love to here everyones opinions no matter what sexuality you are. I'm not having a rant at gay people or anything just voicing my opinion in the least offensive way as this can often be quite a sensitive topic for some people.
Please don't move this thread, I feel that with it being such a wide-spread topic it is better suited here. :)
To clarify, no I am not gay, but I disagree with this (highlighted in red). Yes, parents have an immense influence on the development of their child's mind, however I do not believe they have the capabilities of modifying their child's romantic and sexual desires; that's quite absurd. During and preceding the 20th century homosexuality was on the disease list, and it was frowned upon by most parents yet people were still coming out as homosexuals, only then there was more depression and suicides amongst the non straights because they weren't accepted by their families. You should really learn about the plot in Prayers for Bobby.
I will argue to the grave pro God. However organized religion save for the social experience is a complete, utter and absolute load of crap because of its power hungry, murderous history, and ignorant, sexist, racist, homophobic believes. Using organized religion or the gist of its beliefs to argue against homosexuality (hell--using it to argue against anything) is one of the stupidest things you can do. Do you realize how many old white Catholic priest males rape children, and male children?
The only problem I have with any aspect of homosexuality is certain individuals (certainly not everyone) who flaunt their sexuality in your face. People (mostly males) who do that are the reason why homosexuality is frowned upon these days, and why it's so difficult for males to come out as gay. It's also put heterosexual males in fear of being portrayed as gay because of how they behave due to this stereotype of a gay male being incredibly camp.
Edit: @OP, wouldn't this have been better suited in health and relationships?
ifuseekamy
25-07-2010, 04:15 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisexual_chic
Blinger$
25-07-2010, 05:44 AM
A lot of the users are gay attention seekers, if anything.
Superior
25-07-2010, 12:08 PM
Yes, they are against homosexual people.
To clarify, no I am not gay, but I disagree with this (highlighted in red). Yes, parents have an immense influence on the development of their child's mind, however I do not believe they have the capabilities of modifying their child's romantic and sexual desires; that's quite absurd. During and preceding the 20th century homosexuality was on the disease list, and it was frowned upon by most parents yet people were still coming out as homosexuals, only then there was more depression and suicides amongst the non straights because they weren't accepted by their families. You should really learn about the plot in Prayers for Bobby.
I will argue to the grave pro God. However organized religion save for the social experience is a complete, utter and absolute load of crap because of its power hungry, murderous history, and ignorant, sexist, racist, homophobic believes. Using organized religion or the gist of its beliefs to argue against homosexuality (hell--using it to argue against anything) is one of the stupidest things you can do. Do you realize how many old white Catholic priest males rape children, and male children?
The only problem I have with any aspect of homosexuality is certain individuals (certainly not everyone) who flaunt their sexuality in your face. People (mostly males) who do that are the reason why homosexuality is frowned upon these days, and why it's so difficult for males to come out as gay. It's also put heterosexual males in fear of being portrayed as gay because of how they behave due to this stereotype of a gay male being incredibly camp.
Edit: @OP, wouldn't this have been better suited in health and relationships?
Yes I was originally going to post it in there but I thought it would get a larger response in this section, especially with it being such a wide spread topic that can lead on to anything. It wouldn't of really looked out of place in the Forum Feedback section either with it being a discussion based around the forum itself.
HotelUser
25-07-2010, 02:42 PM
A lot of the users are gay attention seekers, if anything.
Too true! Though I'm sure a lot genuinely are as well :P
Judas
25-07-2010, 02:53 PM
Because it isn't exactly a good thing... We need men and woman to love each over, how else are the human race suppose to carry on? I ended up going to to a lady gaga concert, she was shouting stuff like "let me hear all my gay boys scream" it was just a nightmare, I looked over to my dad (yes he got tricked into going as well) and we just gave each over a knowingly stare.
i saw her live as well because shes an incredible performer.
but on topic i dont think we need to worry about gays killing the human race or whatever youre suggesting because the population isnt exactly decreasing is it? and if there are more straight people than gays as well i dont think thats too much of a problem...
im straight, even though i find some men sexy but i wouldnt ever get romantically involved with one that thought just isnt right to me for some reason. but it is for some and i dont think its right for us to question that because thats just how it is. if it is wrong in the eyes of god, why is 'gay' possible?
MrPinkPanther
25-07-2010, 03:22 PM
Because it isn't exactly a good thing... We need men and woman to love each over, how else are the human race suppose to carry on?
It's not a good or bad thing, it's just how it is. It's like saying having Black skin is bad, it's not good or bad, it's just nothing. However it's extremely naive to say that "Gays" will destroy the human race. Firstly there are already far too many human beings on this Earth, it's unsustainable and if anything Gay people are helping to keep the population down meaning that the planets resources are less strained. Secondly contrary to popular belief Gay people can have Children. Humans are one of the few species on the planet that reproduce for pleasure, if I needed to then I could quite easily have sex with a woman. By being Gay it ensures that births are planned and not just for "fun". Finally shut up.
Catzsy
25-07-2010, 03:25 PM
It's not a good or bad thing, it's just how it is. It's like saying having Black skin is bad, it's not good or bad, it's just nothing. However it's extremely naive to say that "Gays" will destroy the human race. Firstly there are already far too many human beings on this Earth, it's unsustainable and if anything Gay people are helping to keep the population down meaning that the planets resources are less strained. Secondly contrary to popular belief Gay people can have Children. Humans are one of the few species on the planet that reproduce for pleasure, if I needed to then I could quite easily have sex with a woman. By being Gay it ensures that births are planned and not just for "fun". Finally shut up.
Sure, Gay couples have children. There was one in the news of a couple that have 5 children. All via their sperm donation to donated eggs and then surrogate mothers.
MrPinkPanther
25-07-2010, 03:28 PM
Sure, Gay couples have children. There was one in the news of a couple that have 5 children. All via their sperm donation to donated eggs and then surrogate mothers.
Yep, I know two lesbians who have a child which is from one of the parents previous relationships.
Catzsy
25-07-2010, 03:31 PM
Yep, I know two lesbians who have a child which is from one of the parents previous relationships.
I imagine that is quite common. :)
Technologic
25-07-2010, 04:26 PM
some people are gay, deal with it
Superior
25-07-2010, 06:02 PM
i saw her live as well because shes an incredible performer.
but on topic i dont think we need to worry about gays killing the human race or whatever youre suggesting because the population isnt exactly decreasing is it? and if there are more straight people than gays as well i dont think thats too much of a problem...
im straight, even though i find some men sexy but i wouldnt ever get romantically involved with one that thought just isnt right to me for some reason. but it is for some and i dont think its right for us to question that because thats just how it is. if it is wrong in the eyes of god, why is 'gay' possible?
Did you think before asking a question like that? :P You could say that about anything, if killing or raping people is bad in the eyes of God then why is that possible? It is possible because anything is possible to an extent. If a man chooses to take it up the bum then he can do that simply because he has the power to do so.
It's not a good or bad thing, it's just how it is. It's like saying having Black skin is bad, it's not good or bad, it's just nothing. However it's extremely naive to say that "Gays" will destroy the human race. Firstly there are already far too many human beings on this Earth, it's unsustainable and if anything Gay people are helping to keep the population down meaning that the planets resources are less strained. Secondly contrary to popular belief Gay people can have Children. Humans are one of the few species on the planet that reproduce for pleasure, if I needed to then I could quite easily have sex with a woman. By being Gay it ensures that births are planned and not just for "fun". Finally shut up.
So basically nowadays 2 people of the same sex can get married and have children? What a load of nonsense lol. :P
MrPinkPanther
25-07-2010, 06:05 PM
So basically nowadays 2 people of the same sex can get married and have children? What a load of nonsense lol. :P
Well someone can't read.
Judas
25-07-2010, 06:40 PM
Did you think before asking a question like that? :P You could say that about anything, if killing or raping people is bad in the eyes of God then why is that possible? It is possible because anything is possible to an extent. If a man chooses to take it up the bum then he can do that simply because he has the power to do so.
So basically nowadays 2 people of the same sex can get married and have children? What a load of nonsense lol. :P
fair enough but thats just exactly why i dont believe there is a god, otherwise things like rape and murder wouldnt be possible? but with religion aside its the twenty first century, people are gay and theres nothing wrong with it. and yes a man does have the power to 'take it up the bum' (gay isnt something exclusively to men as well btw), but who says you have the power to question that? its not a choice that people make, its who they are, get over it
and you obviously didnt read all of pink panthers post.
Superior
25-07-2010, 08:21 PM
Yes you are right, in most cases it isn't a choice. In my opinion it's how the persons life has been, especially while being brought up. Just like if people have had a bad early life it can show when they get older in things such a violence and murder. If someone is born into a family on a rough council estate and they have parents that you would consider as being rough, the likeliness is that when they grow up they will of picked up the same habits and them too be classed as the rough type still living in a council estate on benefits. What I am trying to say is a persons personality and view on life depends a lot on how they were brought up.
MrPinkPanther
25-07-2010, 08:25 PM
Yes you are right, in most cases it isn't a choice.
Wait....so you honestly believe that sometimes it is choice? Like someone can convince their body to like Men instead of Women? Wow are you naive.
HotelUser
25-07-2010, 08:27 PM
Original poster, you're digging yourself into quite a big hole.
Yes you are right, in most cases it isn't a choice. In my opinion it's how the persons life has been, especially while being brought up. Just like if people have had a bad early life it can show when they get older in things such a violence and murder. If someone is born into a family on a rough council estate and they have parents that you would consider as being rough, the likeliness is that when they grow up they will of picked up the same habits and them too be classed as the rough type still living in a council estate on benefits. What I am trying to say is a persons personality and view on life depends a lot on how they were brought up.
Most cases :S
Superior
25-07-2010, 08:30 PM
Yes I do... Let's not get this confused with bisexual here but if somebody is attracted to to the same and opposite sex yet they feel as if they only want to commit their life to the sex that they like the most, that would be a choice. But anyway I remember watching some comedy program on Dave like the never mind the buzzcocks type programme and the guy was saying that all men can look at another man and think "yeh he's pretty good looking" but most men just ignore it, the ones that don't choose to ignore it are gay. :P
MrPinkPanther
25-07-2010, 08:35 PM
Let's not get this confused with bisexual here but if somebody is attracted to to the same and opposite sex yet they feel as if they only want to commit their life to the sex that they like the most, that would be a choice.
There are certain things which you do not choose on a concious level, did you for example choose your intelligence? Of course not, you were just unfortunately born this way.
But anyway I remember watching some comedy program on Dave like the never mind the buzzcocks type programme and the guy was saying that all men can look at another man and think "yeh he's pretty good looking" but most men just ignore it, the ones that don't choose to ignore it are gay. :P
You pretty much summed it up there, comedy. He was saying it as a joke. I for example don't look at a woman and "choose" to ignore their good looks, I'm just not sexually attracted to them. It has nothing to do with choice.
The Don
25-07-2010, 09:22 PM
Yes you are right, in most cases it isn't a choice. In my opinion it's how the persons life has been, especially while being brought up. Just like if people have had a bad early life it can show when they get older in things such a violence and murder. If someone is born into a family on a rough council estate and they have parents that you would consider as being rough, the likeliness is that when they grow up they will of picked up the same habits and them too be classed as the rough type still living in a council estate on benefits. What I am trying to say is a persons personality and view on life depends a lot on how they were brought up.
Yes it may do, but it certainly won't affect they're sexual preferences.
Do you honestly think people who have been bullied, terrorised and even commited suicide in the past "choose" to be gay? No, they don't
In most cases
No, if someone likes the same and opposite sex then they are Bisexual, not gay... A gay person is someone who is only attracted to the same gender...
louder
25-07-2010, 11:24 PM
So basically nowadays 2 people of the same sex can get married and have children? What a load of nonsense lol. :P
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they're happy, so what gives a low life like you the right to question that?
In my opinion it's how the persons life has been,
you can't have an opinion on what makes people gay because you're not.
you don't know what they feel or how they've felt through thier life.
Just like if people have had a bad early life it can show when they get older in things such a violence and murder. If someone is born into a family on a rough council estate and they have parents that you would consider as being rough, the likeliness is that when they grow up they will of picked up the same habits and them too be classed as the rough type still living in a council estate on benefits.
for one, that's utter rubbish. just because you have crap parents, it doesn't mean that you're never going to achieve anything & live on the 'same council estate on benefits.'
for example, my mum had me when she was 16, did rubbish with her gcse's, has lived in plymouth all of her life & never had anything better than a dead end job.
i'm not saying my mum's a bad person, she just made a mistake at a young age. but that doesn't mean i'm going to do any of those things. i'm already 17 & not had a child. i'm in a committed 2 year relationship, i got 9 A-C's at GCSE. i'm predicted 3 A's for A level, and next year i'll be off to london for university. i'll be the second in my family to go.
and although all of that is off topic to sexuality, what you said is still rubbish.
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GommeInc
25-07-2010, 11:32 PM
Sounds about right. Homosexuality is ripe in the world now :'(
Superior
25-07-2010, 11:33 PM
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they're happy, so what gives a low life like you the right to question that?
you can't have an opinion on what makes people gay because you're not.
you don't know what they feel or how they've felt through thier life.
for one, that's utter rubbish. just because you have crap parents, it doesn't mean that you're never going to achieve anything & live on the 'same council estate on benefits.'
for example, my mum had me when she was 16, did rubbish with her gcse's, has lived in plymouth all of her life & never had anything better than a dead end job.
i'm not saying my mum's a bad person, she just made a mistake at a young age. but that doesn't mean i'm going to do any of those things. i'm already 17 & not had a child. i'm in a committed 2 year relationship, i got 9 A-C's at GCSE. i'm predicted 3 A's for A level, and next year i'll be off to london for university. i'll be the second in my family to go.
and although all of that is off topic to sexuality, what you said is still rubbish.
My cousin is a social worker, she would be able to give you a thousand word essay on why what I have just said is not a load of rubbish as she works with families on council estates for a living and in a nut shell she has told me pretty much everything I have just told you.
GommeInc
25-07-2010, 11:41 PM
God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.
God also created fish and chips, but I don't like fish so I just go for the chips, with ketchup ;) That's like Adam going with the snake. God said nothing against that so it's all good <3
louder
25-07-2010, 11:47 PM
My cousin is a social worker, she would be able to give you a thousand word essay on why what I have just said is not a load of rubbish as she works with families on council estates for a living and in a nut shell she has told me pretty much everything I have just told you.
8-) you genuinely beleive being gay is a choice, but underachieving & sponging benefits is environmental? ohmy.
Superior
25-07-2010, 11:49 PM
What? About the sponging benefits thing yes I do think that what family you are born into has a MASSIVE impact.
louder
25-07-2010, 11:51 PM
What? About the sponging benefits thing yes I do think that what family you are born into has a MASSIVE impact.
but gay is a choice? you really are something else..
Superior
26-07-2010, 12:21 AM
You've sort of already answered your own question, if you are NOT attracted to the opposite sex (which I think is hard to believe as it's unhumanly) then it isn't really a choice to be gay.
louder
26-07-2010, 12:28 AM
You've sort of already answered your own question, if you are NOT attracted to the opposite sex (which I think is hard to believe as it's unhumanly) then it isn't really a choice to be gay.
so you do beleive it's a choice,
because you can't beleive people can be attracted to the same sex because it's 'unhumanly'?
HotelUser
26-07-2010, 12:35 AM
Yes I do... Let's not get this confused with bisexual here but if somebody is attracted to to the same and opposite sex yet they feel as if they only want to commit their life to the sex that they like the most, that would be a choice. But anyway I remember watching some comedy program on Dave like the never mind the buzzcocks type programme and the guy was saying that all men can look at another man and think "yeh he's pretty good looking" but most men just ignore it, the ones that don't choose to ignore it are gay. :P
No, that's completely wrong.
A straight man sees an attractive male, and respects and probably envies their body, looks and social life.
A non straight man sees an attractive male and sexual or romantic desires with the attractive male.
I'm by no means suggesting that every gay guy loves every attractive man, but it works in the same sense as a heterosexual has sexual desires for an attractive female.
You've sort of already answered your own question, if you are NOT attracted to the opposite sex (which I think is hard to believe as it's unhumanly) then it isn't really a choice to be gay.
That is absolute bullocks. You've not gay therefore have not experienced these feelings (or lack thereof in this case) therefore you are out of place to suggest that it's unhumanly. That's like me saying it's unhunamly to love your father more than your mother because most kids are closer to their mothers.
Just because you don't understand how a person could like another person of the same sex doesn't mean it's unhumanly--dear god!
Superior
26-07-2010, 12:37 AM
Yeh I just don't think a human would be born to be attracted to the same gender, it would be kind of like an error in the development or otherwise why would you be born with man bits and given the ability to produce sperm and reproduce (the same with woman)? Just doesn't add up.
louder
26-07-2010, 12:41 AM
Yeh I just don't think a human would be born to be attracted to the same gender, it would be kind of like an error in the development or otherwise why would you be born with man bits and given the ability to produce sperm and reproduce (the same with woman)? Just doesn't add up.
if you're using this as an arguement, then why would it be made for 2 male's to have pleasurable sex?
why would the choice be there?
& if reproduction is the meaning of life, then why were we 'built' to have sex for pleasure?
Superior
26-07-2010, 12:46 AM
if you're using this as an arguement, then why would it be made for 2 male's to have pleasurable sex?
why would the choice be there?
& if reproduction is the meaning of life, then why were we 'built' to have sex for pleasure?
Sex is pleasureful to encourage reproduction.
HotelUser
26-07-2010, 12:46 AM
Yeh I just don't think a human would be born to be attracted to the same gender, it would be kind of like an error in the development or otherwise why would you be given the ability to produce sperm and reproduce? Just doesn't add up.
- Males have nipples for no reason
- All humans have appendixes which are redundant
- We have a third eyelid, called the pilca semilunaris which we do not need
- Males have a stupid amount of body hair
- adenoids are behind our tongue and are prone to swelling and infection
- We have tonsils which if we end up keeping into adulthood then we have quite the accomplishment
- We have a bone called the coccyx from when we used to have tails thousands of years ago
- Erector Pili are what makes animals appear bigger when we're scared, now they just give us goose bumps
- Wisdom teeth. We don't eat meat off bones anymore for some reason
And I would not count having male genitals, which makes me too aggressive and gives me too strong a libido something positive.
And so you see, either god hates us all or evolution is lagging. I don't know about you but I'm going to presume the latter. Oh--and for various reasons ranging from religious justification to pleading ignorance: your argument is stupid.
ChickenFaces
26-07-2010, 12:51 AM
But I have no problems with the gay/bisexual population really. I know plenty of gay/bi people and they're basically normal people, [Well, actually all the people I know are freaks but... Lol jokes.] and everyone's sexual habits are their own business.
It keeps things interesting, to say the least.
louder
26-07-2010, 12:52 AM
Sex is pleasureful to encourage reproduction.
so why is it pleasureable for 2 males? from both sides? 8-)
Oh--and for various reasons ranging from religious justification to pleading ignorance: your argument is stupid.
that's not fair, i've had about 3295082350 infractions tonight for saying things like that. 8-) you're just allowed because you're a manager 8-)
HotelUser
26-07-2010, 12:56 AM
(@ OP) Perhaps it's sign that the hole you've dug has reached China. In retrospect posting saying you're con homosexuality, that it's unhumanly and so forth on a forum you--atleast think--has a non-straight 40% population was probably not the best idea :P
louder
26-07-2010, 12:59 AM
Perhaps it's sign that the hole you've dug has reached China. In retrospect posting saying you're con homosexuality, that it's unhumanly and so forth on a forum you--atleast think--has a non-straight 40% population was probably not the best idea :P
i'm not the op. i'm arguing against him. 8-)
HotelUser
26-07-2010, 01:01 AM
i'm not the op. i'm arguing against him. 8-)
My bad, then rely what I said towards him.
Also if a manager breaks a forum rule the (Assistant) General Managers deal with it which is probably 10x worse than getting an infraction that will simply expire :P
louder
26-07-2010, 01:02 AM
My bad, then rely what I said towards him.
Also if a manager breaks a forum rule the (Assistant) General Managers deal with it which is probably 10x worse than getting an infraction that will simply expire :P
point is, is i'm cautioned now & i can't even post in the appealing against them thread.
when some of them were right unfair.
Superior
26-07-2010, 01:06 AM
(@ OP) Perhaps it's sign that the hole you've dug has reached China. In retrospect posting saying you're con homosexuality, that it's unhumanly and so forth on a forum you--atleast think--has a non-straight 40% population was probably not the best idea :P
Nope not at all but we are all entitled to our own opinions.
- Males have nipples for no reason
- All humans have appendixes which are redundant
- We have a third eyelid, called the pilca semilunaris which we do not need
- Males have a stupid amount of body hair
- adenoids are behind our tongue and are prone to swelling and infection
- We have tonsils which if we end up keeping into adulthood then we have quite the accomplishment
- We have a bone called the coccyx from when we used to have tails thousands of years ago
- Erector Pili are what makes animals appear bigger when we're scared, now they just give us goose bumps
- Wisdom teeth. We don't eat meat off bones anymore for some reason
And I would not count having male genitals, which makes me too aggressive and gives me too strong a libido something positive.
And so you see, either god hates us all or evolution is lagging. I don't know about you but I'm going to presume the latter. Oh--and for various reasons ranging from religious justification to pleading ignorance: your argument is stupid.
You can't really compare reproductive organs to features of our body that were once useful to us thousands/millions of years ago.
GommeInc
26-07-2010, 01:07 AM
Doesn't the male body have a "G-Spot" in the anus? :S Surely if we're playing on the "sex is pleasureful for reproduction", then having a g-spot where a woman can't reach be a sign that men were meant to ask for assistance from another dude?
HotelUser
26-07-2010, 01:11 AM
Doesn't the male body have a "G-Spot" in the anus? :S Surely if we're playing on the "sex is pleasureful for reproduction", then having a g-spot where a woman can't reach be a sign that men were meant to ask for assistance from another dude?
Very clever way of thinking!
Nope not at all but we are all entitled to our own opinions.
You can't really compare reproductive organs to features of our body that were once useful to us thousands/millions of years ago.
I can and I have. As another user previously pointed out, gay couples can use sperm banks or raise adopted children, and thus straight relationships have been made redundant for breeding.
Judas
26-07-2010, 01:24 AM
Doesn't the male body have a "G-Spot" in the anus? :S Surely if we're playing on the "sex is pleasureful for reproduction", then having a g-spot where a woman can't reach be a sign that men were meant to ask for assistance from another dude?
omg youre right maybe we are all meant to be gay
*bends over* whos first
MrPinkPanther
26-07-2010, 06:44 AM
omg youre right maybe we are all meant to be gay
*bends over* whos first
Don't tempt me.
I think this thread is great. It's nice to see how genuinley liberal people are on this forum and indeed in our generation. I think homosexuality is finally becoming an accepted lifestyle for most people, amazing really when you consider around 40 years ago it was illegal.
Richie
26-07-2010, 06:51 AM
Its definitely more than 40%! maybe most of the gay people are on a gay cruise or something?
Sure, Gay couples have children. There was one in the news of a couple that have 5 children. All via their sperm donation to donated eggs and then surrogate mothers.
Was that the program where there were identical twins like four years apart? Don't get me wrong I thought it was great that it was showing gays can adopt / have their own children and the children on that program all seemed very well adjusted and stuff... but it did nothing to change the gay stereotype lol. I thought the parents, particularly the one who dragged up for the school play, were awful.
Sounds about right. Homosexuality is ripe in the world now :'(
;)
Its definitely more than 40%! maybe most of the gay people are on a gay cruise or something?
Yeah I think that's the most likely explanation... public toilets, my local park, habboxforum.
ifuseekamy
26-07-2010, 07:49 AM
It's not a good or bad thing, it's just how it is. It's like saying having Black skin is bad, it's not good or bad, it's just nothing. However it's extremely naive to say that "Gays" will destroy the human race. Firstly there are already far too many human beings on this Earth, it's unsustainable and if anything Gay people are helping to keep the population down meaning that the planets resources are less strained. Secondly contrary to popular belief Gay people can have Children. Humans are one of the few species on the planet that reproduce for pleasure, if I needed to then I could quite easily have sex with a woman. By being Gay it ensures that births are planned and not just for "fun". Finally shut up.
It's actually probably a good thing considering the ever increasing populations and resulting strains on resources.
MrPinkPanther
26-07-2010, 07:57 AM
It's actually probably a good thing considering the ever increasing populations and resulting strains on resources.
Yeh from a practical perspective it probably is.
Yeah I think that's the most likely explanation... public toilets, my local park, habboxforum.
...tied up under your bed.
Repair
26-07-2010, 09:09 AM
So, I don't care what sexuality you are, if your gay, your gay. Everyone's human, and everyone's equal. As long as they don't boast or try and get attention for being gay that's fine. Its there life, not mine. I think its wrong with the Muslim beliefs of how your not allowed to be gay, you are what you are. And as in Eastenders, Syed is correct, as they believe, Allah made them what they are, so live with it.
Superior
26-07-2010, 11:13 AM
So, I don't care what sexuality you are, if your gay, your gay. Everyone's human, and everyone's equal. As long as they don't boast or try and get attention for being gay that's fine. Its there life, not mine. I think its wrong with the Muslim beliefs of how your not allowed to be gay, you are what you are. And as in Eastenders, Syed is correct, as they believe, Allah made them what they are, so live with it.
Eastenders is depressing, always proper gloomy and everyone is either really upset or arguing. Also the accent is just really annoying. U AWITE LAV??
immense
26-07-2010, 11:29 AM
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The Don
26-07-2010, 12:23 PM
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That'd be 40% of the population :o
This threads pretty fun to read through with everyone arguing when the op is clearly wrong and he has been proven wrong by numerous people yet he still persists to argue...
Starburst..x
26-07-2010, 01:14 PM
Firstly, just because on other forums you go on it seems that no one else is gay. That is possible, they are and will be gay people on those forums.
Just because they are gay does not make them a different breed of person. Furthemore that comment that "aslong as gay people dont 'bother' me" just makes me laugh. Just because they are gay doesn't mean they will take one look at you and think "Phwwoar I'd tap that!" You dont fancy every single girl you see in a room, and gay people arent any different. Don't flatter yourself.
Also, you say that 40% of the forum being gay is a lot? You do realise that it's something like 1 in every 5 people are gay?
Sorry if my argument is a bit behind, didnt really read the whole 12 pages worth of arguments haha.
I just don't see the whole situation with someone being gay. If someone is gay then that's that. People just feel they have the right to stick their two cents in and give an opinion on how others live, when really it's no one elses business whether someone is straight or gay.
HotelUser
26-07-2010, 02:49 PM
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Why do this to yourself, Jake :P
Firstly, just because on other forums you go on it seems that no one else is gay. That is possible, they are and will be gay people on those forums.
Just because they are gay does not make them a different breed of person. Furthemore that comment that "aslong as gay people dont 'bother' me" just makes me laugh. Just because they are gay doesn't mean they will take one look at you and think "Phwwoar I'd tap that!" You dont fancy every single girl you see in a room, and gay people arent any different. Don't flatter yourself.
Also, you say that 40% of the forum being gay is a lot? You do realise that it's something like 1 in every 5 people are gay?
Sorry if my argument is a bit behind, didnt really read the whole 12 pages worth of arguments haha.
I just don't see the whole situation with someone being gay. If someone is gay then that's that. People just feel they have the right to stick their two cents in and give an opinion on how others live, when really it's no one elses business whether someone is straight or gay.
Nine? There's only three for me :P
Superior
26-07-2010, 02:55 PM
That'd be 40% of the population :o
This threads pretty fun to read through with everyone arguing when the op is clearly wrong and he has been proven wrong by numerous people yet he still persists to argue...
I haven't been proven wrong at all, I have simply stated my opinions and others have stated theirs. It's just crazy, I can't even say that I don't agree with the whole gay thing without getting loads of gays verbally attacking me, suppose this forum isn't the best place to say you disagree with homosexuality, it's like going on a black pride forum and saying you dislike black people.
MrPinkPanther
26-07-2010, 06:31 PM
I haven't been proven wrong at all, I have simply stated my opinions and others have stated theirs. It's just crazy, I can't even say that I don't agree with the whole gay thing without getting loads of gays verbally attacking me, suppose this forum isn't the best place to say you disagree with homosexuality, it's like going on a black pride forum and saying you dislike black people.
I have no problem with people disliking homosexuals if they have some kind of reasoning behind it. Your arguments have been frankly naive and un-based in any kind of fact. So yes, we will try to rip you to shreds....although to be honest it's not difficult considering how flawed your points are. Seriously, basing a moral point on Never mind the Buzzcocks? Get better examples please.
Catzsy
26-07-2010, 07:15 PM
I haven't been proven wrong at all, I have simply stated my opinions and others have stated theirs. It's just crazy, I can't even say that I don't agree with the whole gay thing without getting loads of gays verbally attacking me, suppose this forum isn't the best place to say you disagree with homosexuality, it's like going on a black pride forum and saying you dislike black people.
I am not gay and I haven't seen loads of 'gays' verbally attacking you :S In any event why would you want to come on a forum and say you don't like 'gays'. What's the reasoning behind it?
Superior
26-07-2010, 07:25 PM
I have no problem with people disliking homosexuals if they have some kind of reasoning behind it. Your arguments have been frankly naive and un-based in any kind of fact. So yes, we will try to rip you to shreds....although to be honest it's not difficult considering how flawed your points are. Seriously, basing a moral point on Never mind the Buzzcocks? Get better examples please.
Well you might as well just re-read all of my posts, my opinion isn't going to change.
I am not gay and I haven't seen loads of 'gays' verbally attacking you :S In any event why would you want to come on a forum and say you don't like 'gays'. What's the reasoning behind it?
The intention of this thread was to discuss why there is such a high percentage of gays on the forum, like why habboxforum has attracted such a high percentage of them but that side has never really been discussed. I think the main reason is because it is a habbo fansite and habbo is full of all kinds of loons.
wizzhan00
26-07-2010, 07:36 PM
i dont realy care its peoples own appinotne to be gay or whatever not mine
MrPinkPanther
26-07-2010, 07:45 PM
I haven't seen loads of 'gays' verbally attacking you :S
Do you not remember that time hordes of homos invaded this thread? Oh wait no, it never happened. My bad.
Well you might as well just re-read all of my posts, my opinion isn't going to change.
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Catzsy
26-07-2010, 08:17 PM
Well you might as well just re-read all of my posts, my opinion isn't going to change.
The intention of this thread was to discuss why there is such a high percentage of gays on the forum, like why habboxforum has attracted such a high percentage of them but that side has never really been discussed. I think the main reason is because it is a habbo fansite and habbo is full of all kinds of loons.
1. As stated above the survey is no indication of how many gay people are on the forum.
2. If the gay members do not want to discuss with you what attracts them to the forum, they don't have to not that it would be any different to any other sexual orientation I am sure.
3. Now you are also insulting all members who play Habbo and say they are loons.
I am wondering if you are posting on a second account just to cause trouble because otherwise why would anybody who doesn't like Gay people and thinks Habbo is full of loons even want to sign up to a habbo fansite in the first place.
Well done in just trolling the forum to provoke other members who normally stay within the rules.
Superior
26-07-2010, 08:20 PM
Do you not remember that time hordes of homos invaded this thread? Oh wait no, it never happened. My bad.
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Starburst..x
26-07-2010, 08:55 PM
Can I just ask out of pure innocent interest,
Why is it that you don't agree with homosexuality?
Please put a worthwhile answer, no "because it's just wrong!"
Your whole argument makes homosexuals sound like a completely different kind of species.
Superior
26-07-2010, 09:20 PM
Can I just ask out of pure innocent interest,
Why is it that you don't agree with homosexuality?
Please put a worthwhile answer, no "because it's just wrong!"
Your whole argument makes homosexuals sound like a completely different kind of species.
I'm gonna end up repeating myself here but the reason I dislike homosexuality is because humans were not made to have same sex relationships, the penis and vagina don't happen to be opposites and negatives by coincidence.
Hecktix
26-07-2010, 09:24 PM
I'm gonna end up repeating myself here but the reason I dislike homosexuality is because humans were not made to have same sex relationships, the penis and vagina don't happen to be opposites and negatives by coincidence.
So why exactly is there a g-spot up in the anus?
So why exactly is there a g-spot up in the anus?
I am so tempted to put that quote in my signature.
Hecktix
26-07-2010, 09:30 PM
I am so tempted to put that quote in my signature.
Don't take my question out of context :(
MrPinkPanther
26-07-2010, 09:35 PM
I'm gonna end up repeating myself here but the reason I dislike homosexuality is because humans were not made to have same sex relationships, the penis and vagina don't happen to be opposites and negatives by coincidence.
The Penis and Anus fit the same as the Penis and Vagina do no?
The first thing I was taught as a psychology student that in ANY questionnaire results ARE inaccurate, people might answer what other people are wanting to hear, or wanting to fit in with the crowd.
ive read some of the posts and got bored so i dont care if this doesnt flow with the conversation
ta
MrPinkPanther
26-07-2010, 09:39 PM
The first thing I was taught as a psychology student that in ANY questionnaire results ARE inaccurate, people might answer what other people are wanting to hear, or wanting to fit in with the crowd.
ive read some of the posts and got bored so i dont care if this doesnt flow with the conversation
ta
Twas most delightful. Thanks for your contribution ;D
Superior
26-07-2010, 09:48 PM
So why exactly is there a g-spot up in the anus?
The Penis and Anus fit the same as the Penis and Vagina do no?
http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/2700000/Family-Guy-Puke-A-Thon-family-guy-2772560-513-386.gif
o/t to prevent infraction, thank you myke you are correct about that.
Hecktix
26-07-2010, 09:52 PM
http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/2700000/Family-Guy-Puke-A-Thon-family-guy-2772560-513-386.gif
o/t to prevent infraction, thank you myke you are correct about that.
haha, so you won't respond to us because you can't? There's nothing wrong with homosexuals and people like you need to damn well get over it.
Superior
26-07-2010, 10:01 PM
haha, so you won't respond to us because you can't? There's nothing wrong with homosexuals and people like you need to damn well get over it.
No I did respond to it, my response was being sick irl. Just thought the family guy version of being sick would be better than mine as tbh you really don't wanna see it. :P
Nah jokes, I've become pretty resilient with gay stuff after being tricked to disgusting sites so many times, obviously not naming any. *REMOVED*
Edited by Cosmic (Forum Super Moderator) Please do not name, or attempt to disguise the name of inappropriate sites, thanks.
Hecktix
26-07-2010, 10:02 PM
No I did respond to it, my response was being sick irl. Just thought the family guy version of being sick would be better than mine as tbh you really don't wanna see it. :P
Nah jokes, I've become pretty resilient with gay stuff after being tricked to disgusting sites so many times, obviously not naming any. *REMOVED*.
No, you said you are against gays because humans were not made in a way that two men should have sex, both me and MrPinkPanther proved that wrong, so why exactly are you against homosexuality?
HotelUser
26-07-2010, 10:03 PM
http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/2700000/Family-Guy-Puke-A-Thon-family-guy-2772560-513-386.gif
o/t to prevent infraction, thank you myke you are correct about that.
Just because some people find it attractive and you don't doesn't mean it's wrong.
Don't be such an Archie Bunker about this, there's no reason to be.
Superior
26-07-2010, 10:17 PM
No, you said you are against gays because humans were not made in a way that two men should have sex, both me and MrPinkPanther proved that wrong, so why exactly are you against homosexuality?
Hang on wait a sec, just because it "feels good" when you shove something up your ass does not mean the purpose of of your ass is for that. The purpose is excretion, I read somewhere that little is really known about the male g-spot but it has been thought that it has some kind of role in excretion which would all make sense if you ask me because after all, it is up the ass.
Personally I just think it is abusing the human body of how it is really intended to be used, it isn't there for that. I know humans are not perfect but my god having a g-spot up your ass is just asking for gays.
GommeInc
26-07-2010, 10:37 PM
Hang on wait a sec, just because it "feels good" when you shove something up your ass does not mean the purpose of of your ass is for that. The purpose is excretion, I read somewhere that little is really known about the male g-spot but it has been thought that it has some kind of role in excretion which would all make sense if you ask me because after all, it is up the ass.
Personally I just think it is abusing the human body of how it is really intended to be used, it isn't there for that. I know humans are not perfect but my god having a g-spot up your ass is just asking for gays.
That's the opposite of what you said earlier... You said something along the lines of "it's pleasurable to promote sex", which is where anal sex, oral sex and so forth come in. Are you totally against oral sex, foreplay and masterbation? Oral sex = where food goes and foreplay is wrong because you should only be doing it for the babies and not for the pleasure. Sex is natural, any animal in the world can have hetero and/or homo sex. All for pleasure, while the hetero one is just for the babies. In essence, we're verging on Catholicism :P
Hecktix
26-07-2010, 10:39 PM
Yep okay, there's a spot in the anus which can pretty much give a man an ****** purely for excretion purposes.
Superior
26-07-2010, 11:16 PM
Yep okay, there's a spot in the anus which can pretty much give a man an ****** purely for excretion purposes.
Just spent 5 mins looking up "the male g spot" and it appears to be in the rektum. To cut a long story short and keep it a lot cleaner, basically applying pressure in different places and moving the "man bits" around in different directions can also pleasure the male g spot. This to me sounds like something that is there to enhances sexual intercourse. Unfortunately with it being exposed inside your ass it is possible for people to take advantage of it and make direct contact with it. From what it sounds it can be VERY easily damaged which kind of explains why it is located pretty much in the centre of the body for good protection. Obviously as I have already stated, the human body is not perfect and the rektum can be made direct contact with when entering your body through the anus.
I am not really enjoying discussing things like this, you wouldn't believe what kinds of sites are now in my history (and are obviously about to get deleted!), fml if someone had walked in on me while I was viewing them...
-:Undertaker:-
26-07-2010, 11:19 PM
Just spent 5 mins looking up "the male g spot" and it appears to be in the rektum. To cut a long story short and keep it a lot cleaner, basically applying pressure in different places and moving the "man bits" around in different directions can also pleasure the male g spot. This to me sounds like something that is there to enhances sexual intercourse. Unfortunately with it being exposed inside your ass it is possible for people to take advantage of it and make direct contact with it. From what it sounds it can be VERY easily damaged which kind of explains why it is located pretty much in the centre of the body for good protection. Obviously as I have already stated, the human body is not perfect and the rektum can be made direct contact with when entering your body through the anus.
I am not really enjoying discussing things like this, you wouldn't believe what kinds of sites are now in my history, fml if someone had walked in on me while I was viewing them...
Many areas of the body are sensitive and easily damaged, thats not to mention the vagina.
HotelUser
26-07-2010, 11:27 PM
Just spent 5 mins looking up "the male g spot" and it appears to be in the rektum. To cut a long story short and keep it a lot cleaner, basically applying pressure in different places and moving the "man bits" around in different directions can also pleasure the male g spot. This to me sounds like something that is there to enhances sexual intercourse. Unfortunately with it being exposed inside your ass it is possible for people to take advantage of it and make direct contact with it. From what it sounds it can be VERY easily damaged which kind of explains why it is located pretty much in the centre of the body for good protection. Obviously as I have already stated, the human body is not perfect and the rektum can be made direct contact with when entering your body through the anus.
I am not really enjoying discussing things like this, you wouldn't believe what kinds of sites are now in my history (and are obviously about to get deleted!), fml if someone had walked in on me while I was viewing them...
Does it really matter why it's there? Does two gay men who are in love, who have sex really hurt anyone? Why the heck is what they do in the bedroom any of your business?
Anal sex is also something straight females can be involved in. Who cares?
HotelUser
26-07-2010, 11:28 PM
Just spent 5 mins looking up "the male g spot" and it appears to be in the rektum. To cut a long story short and keep it a lot cleaner, basically applying pressure in different places and moving the "man bits" around in different directions can also pleasure the male g spot. This to me sounds like something that is there to enhances sexual intercourse. Unfortunately with it being exposed inside your ass it is possible for people to take advantage of it and make direct contact with it. From what it sounds it can be VERY easily damaged which kind of explains why it is located pretty much in the centre of the body for good protection. Obviously as I have already stated, the human body is not perfect and the rektum can be made direct contact with when entering your body through the anus.
I am not really enjoying discussing things like this, you wouldn't believe what kinds of sites are now in my history (and are obviously about to get deleted!), fml if someone had walked in on me while I was viewing them...
Does it really matter why it's there? Does two gay men who are in love, who have sex really hurt anyone? Why the heck is what they do in the bedroom any of your business?
Anal sex is also something straight females can be involved in. Who cares?
-:Undertaker:-
26-07-2010, 11:30 PM
Superior does it not occur to you that vaginal sex is also messy/dirty?
Superior
26-07-2010, 11:30 PM
Does it really matter why it's there? Does two gay men who are in love, who have sex really hurt anyone? Why the heck is what they do in the bedroom any of your business?
Anal sex is also something straight females can be involved in. Who cares?
Accepting it is just encouraging more people to do it, therefore I, like many others, do not accept homosexuality.
-:Undertaker:-
26-07-2010, 11:32 PM
Accepting it is just encouraging more people to do it, therefore I, like many others, do not accept homosexuality.
Ok so, do you think it should be outlawed?
Superior
26-07-2010, 11:40 PM
We are now on the 16th page lol, I'm getting bored with this thread again so instead of just not posting again tonight and continuing it tomorrow I thought that for those of you that wish to carry on could take part in the massive argument going on in the comments of this video. Basically it's a song that goes on about hating gay people, there is always an argument going on in the comments of every single sizzla nah apologize video. The gays are often outnumbered so why not jump in since you seem to enjoy arguing about it so much, besides it looks like they could do with the backup. If you cba then at least listen to the song, it's a tune. :)
*REMOVED*
o wait may contain minor swear words
Edited by Bolt660 (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not post inappropriate content.
HotelUser
27-07-2010, 02:16 AM
Accepting it is just encouraging more people to do it, therefore I, like many others, do not accept homosexuality.
Yeah, encouraging people of doing something that makes them happy and which doesn't hurt you, anyone else or the world in any way is just horrible. Shame on us!
Original poster, I think you need to watch this video, which is also based on a true story:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU-1ho0c9Ik
Blinger$
27-07-2010, 03:37 AM
People shouldn't be gay. Simple, keep it straight, that way we don't have a lot of phonies on the forum.
HotelUser
27-07-2010, 05:02 AM
People shouldn't be gay. Simple, keep it straight, that way we don't have a lot of phonies on the forum.
There's phonies around, but I think they'd be better described as sexually confused. Mostly males fit this scenario I think. They know they're attracted to woman yet they know there's some sort of attraction; whether it be sexual or mental--between other males. As opposed to affiliating this with a common sexual confusion a handful of other folks experience they look too deep into it and conclude that they must be bisexual.
Once I've lived my entire life, experienced whichever emotions and sexual encounters I am going to experience, Im going to be more comfortable having a discussion concerning my personal sexuality. I think something the original poster has neglected to consider is that his experience in this area are limited to his age, as well as the encounter's he's experienced in his life. That, in addition to not really seeing and respecting things from someone else's perspective, acknowledging their experiences and feelings are really what's making his argument inconclusive. The fact that he's trying to steal honey right from the hive isn't helping, either :P
MrPinkPanther
27-07-2010, 06:38 AM
People shouldn't be gay. Simple, keep it straight, that way we don't have a lot of phonies on the forum.
The thing is you can't really say things like this with any degree of accuracy. You never know if someone is homosexual/bisexual or not. Even if some people are lieing about it then they will certainly be in a minority.
Superior
27-07-2010, 10:52 AM
Infracted for posting that video. Bolt took the time to listen to it and then find the lyrics for it to see just what sort of stuff he said, he then included a part of Sizzlas biography which says that he murders homosexuals through his songs or something silly. :S
The girls dem sexy,and dem p^^^^ fat
Yeah,all the girls the boys dem looking at
Some boy bow down...BOW DOWN DOING WHAT? <<<<<(getting ready to take advantage of the exposed g spot rofl)
Nothing in the world could ever have me doing that
Lol it is a tune.
Catzsy
27-07-2010, 11:07 AM
No I did respond to it, my response was being sick irl. Just thought the family guy version of being sick would be better than mine as tbh you really don't wanna see it. :P
Nah jokes, I've become pretty resilient with gay stuff after being tricked to disgusting sites so many times, obviously not naming any. *REMOVED*.
I see what you did there. Hope you get an infraction for it. Tell me why are you on here just to cause trouble and provoke members? If you are resillient then why feel the need to be homophobic?
GommeInc
27-07-2010, 11:13 AM
Just spent 5 mins looking up "the male g spot" and it appears to be in the rektum. To cut a long story short and keep it a lot cleaner, basically applying pressure in different places and moving the "man bits" around in different directions can also pleasure the male g spot. This to me sounds like something that is there to enhances sexual intercourse. Unfortunately with it being exposed inside your ass it is possible for people to take advantage of it and make direct contact with it. From what it sounds it can be VERY easily damaged which kind of explains why it is located pretty much in the centre of the body for good protection. Obviously as I have already stated, the human body is not perfect and the rektum can be made direct contact with when entering your body through the anus.
I am not really enjoying discussing things like this, you wouldn't believe what kinds of sites are now in my history (and are obviously about to get deleted!), fml if someone had walked in on me while I was viewing them...
You speak as if you created the human body like some sort of deity :P Sex is sex, there are no rules other than what is morally considered right and wrong, and seeing as gay sex is harmless it's fine (sexual diseases and infections are alot lower than that in straight couples. It's only when it goes out of the human species it becomes odd and perverse, including sex with inanimate objects :P
Also, last time I checked the G-spot isn't exposed? It's about half a mile up there :S
I think saying you "do not accept homosexuality" is a bit odd. It's like you're expected to engage in every form of sex :/ Some homophobes, to me, are just perverse - plain and simple. They're more interested (to criticise) in sex than any other reason like companionship, not that companionship means the world seeing as straights sleep around alot too. Saying you don't like homosexuals or gay sex because of the sex is just perverse, especially when you look deep into how they have and think "Ewwww, this is wrong but I am so going to talk about it."
Ah, I see what we have here... ;)
Starburst..x
27-07-2010, 11:45 AM
I'm sorry but I completely fail to see how your reason to dislike Gay people as completely valid one, it comes across as immature and unsupported, but I do however accept that everyone is allowed their own opinion.
Firstly, you say how many people do it for 'attention'. Im straight myself but i see other straight people trying to shove that fact down everyone elses throat when they are out by openly making out with eachother. A few times i've seen this, and i'm not just talking about a few kisses here and there, im talking about them might as well climbing into eachothers mouths and being done with it. Im sorry but frankly I dont want to see that extreme show of affection in public whether a person is gay or straight. So both sexualitys are guilty of that! and neither is necesarily prettier to watch when they are going at it full throttle if im honest.
Also if we wanted to go down the whole, 'men and women aren't designed to have sex with eachother' and we wanted to take it down a religious path, I always thought surely if God created everything in this universe then surely he would of created homosexuality?
Homosexuality has also been prominent throughout history with the Romans famously being known for their homosexual antics and it was even encouraged.
At the end of the day a persons sexuality has absolutely nothing to do with you in any shape nor form, and you have therefore no right in telling a person who they can and cant be attracted and whether its right or wrong, because in definition its only an opinion. So if you don't like it don't look.
Superior
27-07-2010, 01:26 PM
I see what you did there. Hope you get an infraction for it. Tell me why are you on here just to cause trouble and provoke members? If you are resillient then why feel the need to be homophobic?
I see you are familiar with that site lool.
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