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kdg-guy
07-11-2010, 04:02 PM
I just started listening to UK Grime (namely Devlin), and it's already a lot better than most US Rap (with the exception of a few YouTube'ers I like). Sad that they aren't heard more.

Which do you prefer?

Edited by HotelUser (Forum Moderator): Thread moved from "Discuss Anything" as I feel it's more suited here.

Rixion
07-11-2010, 04:11 PM
I mainly prefer Grime as to US Rap because of the beats and increased focus on the background beat which usually go well with the flow of the rapper, whereas the US Rap is more focused on the Rap.

kdg-guy
07-11-2010, 04:14 PM
I've noticed that.

Most of the mainstream US rap artists use very similar beats that are all pretty monotonous and have little meaning towards the song. Really detracts from the music quality of the song, which is already lacking.

ben
07-11-2010, 04:14 PM
us rap

Special
07-11-2010, 04:15 PM
us rap have better beats than uk grime

Rixion
07-11-2010, 04:16 PM
I've noticed that.

Most of the mainstream US rap artists use very similar beats that are all pretty monotonous and have little meaning towards the song. Really detracts from the music quality of the song, which is already lacking.

Yes, and in some cases they have used other artists' material.

kdg-guy
07-11-2010, 04:20 PM
us rap have better beats than uk grime

Really?

I've found the opposite from what I've heard so far.

Rixion
07-11-2010, 04:23 PM
Really?

I've found the opposite from what I've heard so far.

Thinking about it yes, most Grime artists are Independant and Unsigned so it's that case over here aswell. ><

FlyingJesus
07-11-2010, 05:54 PM
Most of the mainstream US rap artists use very similar beats that are all pretty monotonous and have little meaning towards the song

Where are you getting this? Unless you've literally only heard Young Money and neglected the actual big names in the game there's no chance of the beats being called monotonous, and certainly not in comparison to grime beats...


Yes, and in some cases they have used other artists' material.

Yeah that's called sampling, which aside from being a far harder job than most people think also stops tunes from just being a load of random beeping noises and 808s


I'm more than happy to accept that different people have different opinions on music, but really you have to have a very limited experience of hiphop across the pond to believe that grime actually has a better overall sound, radio rap is not the only thing that comes out of the US lol

Rixion
07-11-2010, 06:53 PM
Yeah that's called sampling, which aside from being a far harder job than most people think also stops tunes from just being a load of random beeping noises and 808s


I'm more than happy to accept that different people have different opinions on music, but really you have to have a very limited experience of hiphop across the pond to believe that grime actually has a better overall sound, radio rap is not the only thing that comes out of the US lol

I do have limited expierence of hiphop in general, I was just voicing my limited experience opinion. xD

kdg-guy
07-11-2010, 06:54 PM
No, I actually like a lot of YouTube and Underground rappers in the US. My point is that Radio Rap in the US is terrible right now, and that UK Grime is much better than it.

But yeah, opinions will definitely vary from person to person. No problems with that.

RedStratocas
07-11-2010, 07:01 PM
wow not even trying to be bias but u.s. rap >>>>> grime. dont get me wrong i like grime and i appreciate the different production styles, but the u.s. has producers that have made beats that are far far more complex and expansive than anything thats come out of the uk


No, I actually like a lot of YouTube and Underground rappers in the US. My point is that Radio Rap in the US is terrible right now, and that UK Grime is much better than it.

the radio in general is terrible, and is an especially terrible way to judge a genre.

kdg-guy
07-11-2010, 07:29 PM
Anybody have good examples of non-radio U.S. rappers?

The few that I listen to include D-Pryde, Dumbfoundead, Kid Cudi, New Boyz, and Cali Swag Distract.

RedStratocas
07-11-2010, 07:50 PM
Anybody have good examples of non-radio U.S. rappers?

The few that I listen to include D-Pryde, Dumbfoundead, Kid Cudi, New Boyz, and Cali Swag Distract.

mf doom. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V0mPD6FhXQ&feature=related)

lPinoy
07-11-2010, 08:37 PM
I personally like both genres the same; I have near-equal amounts of Grime and Hip Hop albums but I find myself listening to a lot more grime these days; Kano, JME, Roll Deep, Ghetts, and the Newham Generals.


Anybody have good examples of non-radio U.S. rappers?

The few that I listen to include D-Pryde, Dumbfoundead, Kid Cudi, New Boyz, and Cali Swag Distract.

+rep for D-Pryde & Dumbfoundead. I actually recently just bought 'Fun With Dumb', and downloaded 'No...Rly Now', haha.

Non-radio rappers? Try Wax, Lupe Fiasco, Talib Kwali, Mos Def or Tech N9ne. Or maybe try some works from Nas, Bone Thugs-n-Harmony, Rakim, Proof & Xzibit.

FlyingJesus
07-11-2010, 09:49 PM
Anybody have good examples of non-radio U.S. rappers?

The few that I listen to include D-Pryde, Dumbfoundead, Kid Cudi, New Boyz, and Cali Swag Distract.

lol.

But yeah nearly all rap is censored from radio either because of the lyrical content or just the fact that it doesn't appeal to the majority of radio listeners. You'd have to find a very specialised radio channel/show in the UK to hear the likes of Big Pun, Ghostface Killah, M.O.P., Freeway... the list goes on and on and on, far too diversely to simply pick a few names and stick to just those artists. One of the beauties of rap music is that it's constantly evolving and there is always always always going to be more that you can find and branch out from as you go on finding other acts you enjoy. Even people you've heard before and thought "well that was crap" might have some hidden bangers that you'll love, because other than Lil Jon they tend to have a variety of sounds and styles about them and at their disposal

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