User Ranks

[Ajthedragon]

Why on earth do the ranks go -
- Gold
- Ruby
- Sapphire
- Emerald
- Platinum
- Habbox God

I really don't understand why when you first join, you become a gold member immediately. Gold usually signals wealth and power. Surely therefore Gold should be a higher user rank. Also, Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald don't really, to me signal any inner feelings in terms of for example, it's better than gold, it's worth a lot, and so on.... Frankly I have no idea which one is worth more than the other!

So why not use the common metals which are always associated with being better than the other? That with the addition of Platinum and Habbox God.

In short, rather than my overly complicated and badly written paragraph. Why don't the ranks go -
- Bronze
- Silver
- Gold
- Emerald
- Platinum
- Habbox God

To me, this makes more sense and given that bronze isn't really considered anything amazing, silver is slightly better but not great, and gold should be respected.

I think this summarises my feelings today - :rolleyes:.

[nvrspk4]

It was once Bronze Silver Gold then the other ranks, I can't remember when it changed or why it changed and the Search is giving me errors right now so I can't check either. But I'll assume there was a reason for removing the first two, perhaps to make members feel valued. Maybe I even did it and don't remember, but I think it happened later. I think the reason might have been very related to what you pointed out:


To me, this makes more sense and given that bronze isn't really considered anything amazing, silver is slightly better but not great, and gold should be respected.

I would think that management sought to avoid classifying any users as "nothing amazing" or "slightly better but not great". The message sent shouldn't be being classified as an inferior member based on your post count.

As far as Ruby etc. it went Metals, then Gems, hence the progression from Bronze Silver Gold to Ruby Sapphire Emerald.

[Hecktix]

New members need not be at the bottom of the pile which is why the ranks were changed to begin at Gold Member, you say "Gold should be respected" - why the should new members not be respected?, you say bronze isn't "anything amazing" - that's quite insulting to new members.

The rest of the suggestions are quite pedantic really, it's an order of usergroups it's in no way to signify who is better etc - if we wanted that we'd go for a full blown class system.

[Ajthedragon]

No I'm saying that as a general view of the metals themselves.

Getting a new user rank should be rewarding.

I'm not using the idea of basing a user on their post count, it just seems stupid.

When I joined this forum I wasn't insulted by my user rank. :rolleyes:

[nvrspk4]

No I'm saying that as a general view of the metals themselves.

Getting a new user rank should be rewarding.

I'm not using the idea of basing a user on their post count, it just seems stupid.

It is rewarding, you know which ranks come after one another and moving up a rank is an accomplishment. Once you hit Ruby you know you've moved up in the world from the likes of the Metals ranks to the Gems ranks. Outgrown your forum adolescence so to speak :P

[AgnesIO]

The entire change was a joke, which I seem to remember Jke and Oli fronting quite heavily.

It was all to make 'new users feel better' - which in itself is the most preposterous comment ever. Virtually EVERY forum has bronze, silver and gold - the whole removing of bronze was, and still is, insane.

With the rep bar thing that is currently being debated - god knows why such a thing is allowed - we wouldn't want new users being put down that they only have one dark green bar :S Why not make it a nice bright blue - just to make them feel good?

[nvrspk4]

While I think that it was a tiny bit unecessary changing the ranks like that (especially because the reason more were added in the first place was to allow even more advancement opportunities and to raise the ranks), I also don't think that it was that destructive to the forum, apart from the possible aforementioned problem.

Is it really that much of a problem that it starts with Gold? I personally wouldn't have supported the change, but now that it's done, is it that big an issue?

[Ajthedragon]

Please don't, you're offending my user rank and my reputation.

Ridiculous.

[Catzsy]

It was only introduced in at the request of the members only last May. I found a post while looking in which you didn't like it there either :P.
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=645722&p=6488971#post6488971
This is when it was introduced.
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=645704

It was considered over a period of time and I can't think of anybody complaining about it until today. In fact everybody has enjoyed the new more generous avatar and signature limits. It was a very good move - members feel valuable as soon as they have posted a few times. :)

[jesus]

i was a habbox god until someone gave me this stupid vip

[Hecktix]

The entire change was a joke, which I seem to remember Jke and Oli fronting quite heavily.

It was all to make 'new users feel better' - which in itself is the most preposterous comment ever. Virtually EVERY forum has bronze, silver and gold - the whole removing of bronze was, and still is, insane.

With the rep bar thing that is currently being debated - god knows why such a thing is allowed - we wouldn't want new users being put down that they only have one dark green bar :S Why not make it a nice bright blue - just to make them feel good?

You have always had a poor attitude towards new users Dom. The system works quite well, we have a userrank system not based on classification and the rewards you get for userranks are forum privelidges which tend to be hidden. A new member is just as valued at Habbox as a member who has been here from the start.

[Ajthedragon]

It was only introduced in at the request of the members only last May. I found a post while looking in which you didn't like it there either :P.
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=645722&p=6488971#post6488971
This is when it was introduced.
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=645704

It was considered over a period of time and I can't think of anybody complaining about it until today. In fact everybody has enjoyed the new more generous avatar and signature limits. It was a very good move - members feel valuable as soon as they have posted a few times. :)

What was so difficult about giving bronze and silver members more perks then? The user ranks themselves need not be changed.

[nvrspk4]

After viewing Catzsy's posted thread, it seems the changes were made to give the newer users additional privileges. That said I think the changes had much more merit than simply changing Bronze to Gold. Although I would have more supported just shifting the privileges downwards and keeping the ranks. Regardless, the argument still stands: does it impede your enjoyment of the forum that much that ranks now start at gold?

[Nemo]

wth why does anyone care? Its only a rank, if they shouldnt care about being bronze then you shouldnt care about them being gold.


ive argued bout some pretty pointless things on this forum before but cmon.

[AgnesIO]

It was only introduced in at the request of the members only last May. I found a post while looking in which you didn't like it there either :P.
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=645722&p=6488971#post6488971
This is when it was introduced.
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=645704

It was considered over a period of time and I can't think of anybody complaining about it until today. In fact everybody has enjoyed the new more generous avatar and signature limits. It was a very good move - members feel valuable as soon as they have posted a few times. :)

That bit doesn't make sense. Users have ALWAYS been given more privileges the more they post. Changing the colours was not needed, and was just like every other bit of feedback by Immense at the time. Absolutely everything was about 'making new users feel better and more confident.' Which was a dumb argument from the start.

[Hecktix]

That bit doesn't make sense. Users have ALWAYS been given more privileges the more they post. Changing the colours was not needed, and was just like every other bit of feedback by Immense at the time. Absolutely everything was about 'making new users feel better and more confident.' Which was a dumb argument from the start.

If I remember rightly it wasn't just feedback from Immenseman but Immenseman befriended a group of newer users and asked about their first experiences of Habbox Forum, these users posted within the feedback thread and I agreed with what they were saying, they raised valid points and we listened.

Ayd's proved exactly why we removed "Bronze" because look what he said "isn't anything amazing" and then how "gold should give you respect" - why on earth new members arent entitled to respect I am absolutely baffled.

[Ajthedragon]

That bit doesn't make sense. Users have ALWAYS been given more privileges the more they post. Changing the colours was not needed, and was just like every other bit of feedback by Immense at the time. Absolutely everything was about 'making new users feel better and more confident.' Which was a dumb argument from the start.

Totally agree, and Hectix you can't just say someone has a negative attitude towards new members, if we said that about you you would just kick off. It's very rude.

Also, if a new user a 'valued' the same then we all want the same privileges, all with our own coloured usertitles and whatever they get.

[nvrspk4]

If I remember rightly it wasn't just feedback from Immenseman but Immenseman befriended a group of newer users and asked about their first experiences of Habbox Forum, these users posted within the feedback thread and I agreed with what they were saying, they raised valid points and we listened.

Ayd's proved exactly why we removed "Bronze" because look what he said "isn't anything amazing" and then how "gold should give you respect" - why on earth new members arent entitled to respect I am absolutely baffled.

Because post count and join date directly correlate to penis size, everyone knows that.

[AgnesIO]

You have always had a poor attitude towards new users Dom. The system works quite well, we have a userrank system not based on classification and the rewards you get for userranks are forum privelidges which tend to be hidden. A new member is just as valued at Habbox as a member who has been here from the start.

No.

I respect new users much more than most the (although now banned) users on here. However, I firmly believe changing the colour of some stars was some pathetic move to make people 'feel more valued'. How, just out of interest, does a new user feel more valued? As I argued at the time, and as I will continue to argue now, after a few months (which it has now been), a gold member is recognised as the 'newb' on the forum - so all that has changed is what colour people are when they are new?

I am pretty sure new users could have been given more privileges without changing the stars. Mind you, I don't really care as it hasn't and won't affect me. With VIP starts are hidden anyway so it doesn't really matter :L

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Although on the old argument; why not give new users colourful names and VIP features - we wouldn't want them feeling small now, would we?

[Hecktix]

Because post count and join date directly correlate to penis size, everyone knows that.


Oh ****, forgot AHAHAH NVR I HAVE MORE POSTS THAN YOU!!!!!11

[jesus]

get rid of user ranks and reputation

that way; no arguements

you're either a paid member or you are not

thats what i'd do anyway

[Ajthedragon]

If I remember rightly it wasn't just feedback from Immenseman but Immenseman befriended a group of newer users and asked about their first experiences of Habbox Forum, these users posted within the feedback thread and I agreed with what they were saying, they raised valid points and we listened.

Ayd's proved exactly why we removed "Bronze" because look what he said "isn't anything amazing" and then how "gold should give you respect" - why on earth new members arent entitled to respect I am absolutely baffled.

And by that I meant post counts, not the people themselves. Stop bending what I say.

[Eoin247]

I agree that it feels a bit odd starting off at gold.

I remember when i first joined and saw i had 'gold membership', i thought it was an error or a glitch. It would make more sense in my opinion to not start at gold but at the end of the day it doesn't bother me too much.

[Hecktix]

And by that I meant post counts, not the people themselves. Stop bending what I say.

You didn't highlight that at all, and the point still stands, just because someone has a smaller postcount does not mean they are inferior.

[Ajthedragon]

Did I say that? Then the whole user rank system should go.

[AgnesIO]

Oh ****, forgot AHAHAH NVR I HAVE MORE POSTS THAN YOU!!!!!11

Was that supposed to make someone laugh, Oli?

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I think we all know someone who has been on the forum for five years is going to, in general, be listened to more than someone who has joined yesterday.

Anyone who denies that concept is an imbecile.

[Arch]

I think we should refer to runescape for this one (bronze,silver,gold, sapphire, emerald, ruby, diamond, plat, hxf god) you know :)

[Catzsy]

That bit doesn't make sense. Users have ALWAYS been given more privileges the more they post. Changing the colours was not needed, and was just like every other bit of feedback by Immense at the time. Absolutely everything was about 'making new users feel better and more confident.' Which was a dumb argument from the start.

Well it is not dumb, Dom. Gold is more prestigious to members however you look at it and basically the small limits of the bronze and silver avatar were scrapped. The whole user systema was looked at and these user ranks were introduced - it benefited all the members.
http://www.habboxforum.com/faq.php?faq=new_faq_item1#faq_new_faq_item_userpos tranks
I cannot understand why you are both suddenly complaining about this after all these months.
Perhaps you would like to suggest an alternative that would make sense and avoid members privileges they have enjoyed for months being withdrawn? Please don't say 'change the colour' unless you can think of one positive thing to support that.

[Ajthedragon]

Yeah nice to see you're taking our views seriously. You shouldn't be so opinionated.

And the reason I'm complaining now is because I felt like it.

[nvrspk4]

Was that supposed to make someone laugh, Oli?

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I think we all know someone who has been on the forum for five years is going to, in general, be listened to more than someone who has joined yesterday.

Anyone who denies that concept is an imbecile.

I disagree completely. I've met plenty of idiotic old-school members (several of whom have left). I have also met quite a few very mature new members. If someone has been making good contributions over five years, then I am going to listen to them more often than someone that has made one good post, yes. However the only time I ever use join date is when they make a comment on how Habbox is run, because then it is valid (assuming that the account does not belong to a returning user). Otherwise, I judge their point based on the logic they use and the validity of the points they make.

What a novel concept.

[AgnesIO]

Well it is not dumb, Dom. Gold is more prestigous to members however you look at it and basically the small limits of the bronze and silver avatar were scrapped. The whole user systema was looked at and these user ranks were introduced - it benefited all the members.
http://www.habboxforum.com/faq.php?faq=new_faq_item1#faq_new_faq_item_userpos tranks
I cannot understand why you are both suddenly complaining about this after all these months.
Perhaps you would like to suggest an alternative that would make sense and avoid members privileges they have enjoyed for months being withdrawn? Please don't say 'change the colour' unless you can think of one positive thing to support that.

I have already stated, I really don't give a damn about what new users get - I have VIP, it doesn't affect me. However, since this is in Feedback I will put my view across.

My point is, changing the colour originally was a pointless thing to do, considering the user privileges could have been changed without changing the colours. It just seemed pointless, and was some lame attempt to make 'new users feel better'.

[nvrspk4]

I have already stated, I really don't give a damn about what new users get - I have VIP, it doesn't affect me. However, since this is in Feedback I will put my view across.

My point is, changing the colour originally was a pointless thing to do, considering the user privileges could have been changed without changing the colours. It just seemed pointless, and was some lame attempt to make 'new users feel better'.

With this, I don't disagree that much. What I do disagree with is the need to oppose it. I would have joined you in opposing it had the Feedback thread still been here and the change not been enacted yet. But now that it has changed, and I don't think that it is significantly altering the Habbox experience, I personally have moved on and instead will argue about other changes that have more impact on the forum, instead of what I consider unwise changes that, on the whole, don't really matter that much.

[AgnesIO]

I disagree completely. I've met plenty of idiotic old-school members (several of whom have left). I have also met quite a few very mature new members. If someone has been making good contributions over five years, then I am going to listen to them more often than someone that has made one good post, yes. However the only time I ever use join date is when they make a comment on how Habbox is run, because then it is valid (assuming that the account does not belong to a returning user). Otherwise, I judge their point based on the logic they use and the validity of the points they make.

What a novel concept.

I knew people would disagree when I posted it - but time at something does generally give more respect etc.

Look at a school. What happens if a year 7 'starts' on a year 11? (not sure what it is in America). In a gang, what would happen if a new member has completely opposite views to someone who has been in the gang for a long time (and is likely to have befriended the leaders)?

As much as people want to believe new members are just as well respected as older members, it isn't true.

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And Oli, don't even question my respect for newer members.

[Inseriousity.]

I think we should refer to runescape for this one (bronze,silver,gold, sapphire, emerald, ruby, diamond, plat, hxf god) you know :)

lolol bronze, iron, steel, mithril etc! :P

Anyway yeah, I'm not really fussed either way. Would having a bronze rank make me feel less special? No, users' attitude towards me for having said rank would and it'd take more than a name change of the ranks to change that. Despite that, like nvr said (in perhaps his shortest post ever? where's the essay?), now that it's been done, it's a very small thing to really change back imo.

[AgnesIO]

With this, I don't disagree that much. What I do disagree with is the need to oppose it. I would have joined you in opposing it had the Feedback thread still been here and the change not been enacted yet. But now that it has changed, and I don't think that it is significantly altering the Habbox experience, I personally have moved on and instead will argue about other changes that have more impact on the forum, instead of what I consider unwise changes that, on the whole, don't really matter that much.

I hate to interrupt here. But did I make this thread? No. Is this thread in a public feedback forum? Yes. So me giving my feedback on it is fine, right? Correct.

[nvrspk4]

I knew people would disagree when I posted it - but time at something does generally give more respect etc.

Look at a school. What happens if a year 7 'starts' on a year 11? (not sure what it is in America). In a gang, what would happen if a new member has completely opposite views to someone who has been in the gang for a long time (and is likely to have befriended the leaders)?

As much as people want to believe new members are just as well respected as older members, it isn't true.

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And Oli, don't even question my respect for newer members.

Year 7 versus Year 11 has a very significant difference, they actually correspond to age and overall experience in life. Experience in using the forum is not a prerequisite for me to respect you. If someone asks me how the user ranks system works, that doesn't mean that I'm going to think that they have nothing useful to say about the political situation in the UK.

Also, I categorically object to your analogy of gang members. That's exactly what the forum is seeking to avoid, a cliquey, hierarchy-based gang.

[Ajthedragon]

I think we should refer to runescape for this one (bronze,silver,gold, sapphire, emerald, ruby, diamond, plat, hxf god) you know :)

couldn't agree more. but then i might be offended.... :rolleyes:

[AgnesIO]

Year 7 versus Year 11 has a very significant difference, they actually correspond to age and overall experience in life. Experience in using the forum is not a prerequisite for me to respect you. If someone asks me how the user ranks system works, that doesn't mean that I'm going to think that they have nothing useful to say about the political situation in the UK.

Also, I categorically object to your analogy of gang members. That's exactly what the forum is seeking to avoid, a cliquey, hierarchy-based gang.

It was just a situation in life where the same thing happens. In fact, why not suggest a situation where a new person is just as respected as an older person? Even in a work place, a new person is the 'newbie' - and will often be given the joibs no one else wants to do.

[Special]

they're pointless anyway j/s

[Catzsy]

I have already stated, I really don't give a damn about what new users get - I have VIP, it doesn't affect me. However, since this is in Feedback I will put my view across.

My point is, changing the colour originally was a pointless thing to do, considering the user privileges could have been changed without changing the colours. It just seemed pointless, and was some lame attempt to make 'new users feel better'.

Well I don't think it was lame at all and I feel it has worked. So agree to disagree on this one. :P

[nvrspk4]

I hate to interrupt here. But did I make this thread? No. Is this thread in a public feedback forum? Yes. So me giving my feedback on it is fine, right? Correct.

I am not denying you your right to give feedback. I am instead providing counter feedback, and am alleging that the issue that you raise is no longer an issue, and therefore is a case-closed situation that doesn't need further discussion. You are free to continue discussing it, I will just continue to contend that we should let the issue rest, because there is really no need to argue against a change that had very little impact on the overall user experience.


It was just a situation in life where the same thing happens. In fact, why not suggest a situation where a new person is just as respected as an older person? Even in a work place, a new person is the 'newbie' - and will often be given the joibs no one else wants to do.

There is a difference between an "entry-level" position and joining an organization. If the member is joining the company as an "entry-level" employee, you have a point. But here again we return to the idea that this is based on a hierarchical organization, something that Habbox seeks to avoid. You could join up with a company as an executive or mid-level manager you know ;)

[AgnesIO]

Well I don't think it was lame at all and I feel it has worked. So agree to disagree on this one. :P

But what has worked?

We already know Habbox has far less users than it used to.

[Catzsy]

But what has worked?

We already know Habbox has far less users than it used to.

Certainly not since May of last year, Dom and I know that a much higher % of new members are staying with us than ever before.

[nvrspk4]

But what has worked?

We already know Habbox has far less users than it used to.

However, if it has more active users than it did a month ago, the policy might be succeeding (or the policy may have nothing to do with it, but I still fail to see how the far less users than it used to is pertinent, or if it's even still true).

Does someone with ACP access want to post active user stats?

[AgnesIO]

Certainly not since May of last year, Dom and I know that a much higher % of new members are staying with us than ever before.

Can a survey be made sent to all new users once they have been singed up for a month? We will ask why they stayed. Let's see if it because of the features or if it is because they just enjoy posting.

Rosie and I know that a much lower amount of people actually sign up than in the past.


However, if it has more active users than it did a month ago, the policy might be succeeding (or the policy may have nothing to do with it, but I still fail to see how the far less users than it used to is pertinent, or if it's even still true).

Does someone with ACP access want to post active user stats?

I would be interested to see this from one year before these changes were introduced, otherwise viewing them would be invalid.

[nvrspk4]

Rosie and I know that a much lower amount of people actually sign up than in the past.

I would be interested to see this from one year before these changes were introduced, otherwise viewing them would be invalid.

These two statistics are easily found, if the admins aren't too busy and are lovely enough to oblige us.

[Catzsy]

Can a survey be made sent to all new users once they have been singed up for a month? We will ask why they stayed. Let's see if it because of the features or if it is because they just enjoy posting.

Rosie and I know that a much lower amount of people actually sign up than in the past.



I would be interested to see this from one year before these changes were introduced, otherwise viewing them would be invalid.

I think this can be answered by my post here in the thread in which you congratulated habbox on it's rise in activity not long ago.
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=683898&p=6953944#post6953944

[AgnesIO]

I think this can be answered by my post here in the thread in which you congratulated habbox on it's rise in activity not long ago.
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=683898&p=6953944#post6953944

I did indeed.

Although, I am certain the change in user ranks didn't affect this - if it did it took a VERY long time for the changes to have any affect :P

Looking at those stats now.

[Hecktix]

However, if it has more active users than it did a month ago, the policy might be succeeding (or the policy may have nothing to do with it, but I still fail to see how the far less users than it used to is pertinent, or if it's even still true).

Does someone with ACP access want to post active user stats?

From what I can see, user activity stats has remained stable over the past 12 months with the average in January 2010 being around the same as the average in January 2011 (around 450-500 visitors a day) with the exception of September - November in which the stats dropped to 200-300 visitors per day - this has now improved back to the normal 450-500.

New registration stats are considerably higher than the "normal" months of last year, January 2010 got about 30-40 users registering per day, January 2011 40-60, however during 2010 it did drop to 10-20 at certain points.

Posting stats are up around 30% on January 2010, and considerably up against the last 6 months of 2010.

[AgnesIO]

From what I can see, user activity stats has remained stable over the past 12 months with the average in January 2010 being around the same as the average in January 2011 (around 450-500 visitors a day) with the exception of September - November in which the stats dropped to 200-300 visitors per day - this has now improved back to the normal 450-500.

New registration stats are considerably higher than the "normal" months of last year, January 2010 got about 30-40 users registering per day, January 2011 40-60, however during 2010 it did drop to 10-20 at certain points.

Posting stats are up around 30% on January 2010, and considerably up against the last 6 months of 2010.

That last bit is fantastic news.

Especially considering the amount of spam posts that happened in discuss anything at the time!

[Ajthedragon]

I did indeed.

Although, I am certain the change in user ranks didn't affect this - if it did it took a VERY long time for the changes to have any affect :P

Looking at those stats now.

Exactly, I never turned my back on habbox because of the old system, I'm still here.

[Jin]

Lol I can't believe this thread went on for 6 pages. I wish I had this much time on my hands.

I will be honest, I don't think we will be changing the user ranks any time soon, they have had too much attention in the last 18 months and frankly I don't think the majority of people give a damn. Might change it in the summer or autumn something.

[GommeInc]

The type of ranks are a bit weird, and some of the reasons behind them are also very odd. It's incredibly unlikely new members were put off for having a rank which lacked value. If it is the case Habbox Forum seems to be tapping into a source of truely odd individuals who notice user ranks when they first join a forum and are put off because "bronze isn't worth much". That said, they're doing no harm and there are no problems with the ranking system :P

[Rixion]

I do think it's a bit odd and all because the vast majority of forums i've been on start off at bronze and not one person has made a complaint about that, you post and work your way up the ranks if you contribute more to the forum. Starting at gold seemed a bit odd and whilst I started at bronze, I did not ever feel lower than anyone else or at the bottom of the chain.

Anyhow the whole issue is not really an urgent matter because no-one really finds forum ranks that significant but it would look more suitable having new members starting Bronze > Silver > Gold > Sapphire.. etc.

[Jin]

K I will also put another 2 cents in.

But I want to get rid of sapphire&ruby I assume everyone is like me and have no idea what's more valuable.

[Stephen]

can we have a Stephen rank at 30k posts?

[Nick]

I acctuly like gold being at the fron because emerald, etc sound like a high value. Although gold sound at the bottom of all of them and silver member and bronze member, I dont like the sound of them .

[Ajthedragon]

K I will also put another 2 cents in.

But I want to get rid of sapphire&ruby I assume everyone is like me and have no idea what's more valuable.

Yeah I don't have a clue.

[Alex3213]

Exactly, I never turned my back on habbox because of the old system, I'm still here.

Yeah but that's the thing. You're still here. You're still here with these new userranks what's the problem? Sure it may not be the most logical approach (I agree with Jin mind) but it's just wasting precious time which can be used for other things.

[AgnesIO]

Yeah but that's the thing. You're still here. You're still here with these new userranks what's the problem? Sure it may not be the most logical approach (I agree with Jin mind) but it's just wasting precious time which can be used for other things.

Version Six? :P

[Ajthedragon]

Yeah but that's the thing. You're still here. You're still here with these new userranks what's the problem? Sure it may not be the most logical approach (I agree with Jin mind) but it's just wasting precious time which can be used for other things.

What precious other things - I've had vb beofre, it's not a massive thing to change.

And by that I meant when I first joined, I really don't care about user ranks, just the old system was much better.

[xxMATTGxx]

What precious other things - I've had vb beofre, it's not a massive thing to change.

And by that I meant when I first joined, I really don't care about user ranks, just the old system was much better.

May not be massive in terms of changing it but it is also pointless in changing the user rank system again. It hardly affects you anyway!

[Jin]

I do see your point Ayd but it won't be something we are going to change immediately purely because it is trivial.

[FlyingJesus]

If I remember rightly it wasn't just feedback from Immenseman but Immenseman befriended a group of newer users and asked about their first experiences of Habbox Forum, these users posted within the feedback thread and I agreed with what they were saying, they raised valid points and we listened

Not quite, he told a load of people on *+*the hotel*+* to sign up and say certain things, make certain claims and act a certain way so that he could agree with his own views


Because post count and join date directly correlate to penis size, everyone knows that.

I heard it was more to do with rep


Also, I categorically object to your analogy of gang members. That's exactly what the forum is seeking to avoid, a cliquey, hierarchy-based gang.

This has been stated for years (probably since you were GM come to think of it) but I've never quite got why. It's an accepted fact that social cliques have a profound effect on staff ranks, and it happens naturally among members in a big way anyway (we've always had groups and such unofficially really) so I never understood why the party line was something about an illusion of equality. It doesn't bother me what people get called on signing up, I know that "gold member" technically equates to "mouth breather" the same way bronze used to, I'm just commenting on bits and pieces I see through the thread :P


user activity stats has remained stable over the past 12 months with the average in January 2010 being around the same as the average in January 2011 (around 450-500 visitors a day)

New registration stats are considerably higher than the "normal" months of last year, January 2010 got about 30-40 users registering per day, January 2011 40-60

Is there anything on post stats that can be seen? If posting figures are largely the same as last year (as you've said traffic is) then with the new user stats going up it would mean that forum activity is actually now lower - more users with the same overall post figures obviously means the average posts per day per user is going down

[Hecktix]

Is there anything on post stats that can be seen? If posting figures are largely the same as last year (as you've said traffic is) then with the new user stats going up it would mean that forum activity is actually now lower - more users with the same overall post figures obviously means the average posts per day per user is going down

Posting stats are up quite a bit on last December/January - will post the graph later.

[Stephen]

how many of them new users have been banned cos they were saurav etc though

[FlyingJesus]

Good point Saurav trying to be funny prob requires at least 30% of new membership to get a chuckle

[Jsoh]

New members need not be at the bottom of the pile which is why the ranks were changed to begin at Gold Member, you say "Gold should be respected" - why the should new members not be respected?, you say bronze isn't "anything amazing" - that's quite insulting to new members.

The rest of the suggestions are quite pedantic really, it's an order of usergroups it's in no way to signify who is better etc - if we wanted that we'd go for a full blown class system.

it's really not insulting at all, surely giving them a colour like bronze or silver would ENCOURAGE them to get rid of it by posting more and more till they're on gold?

[AgnesIO]

it's really not insulting at all, surely giving them a colour like bronze or silver would ENCOURAGE them to get rid of it by posting more and more till they're on gold?

Just out of interest, are you new (I know you joined a year a go) or is that a second account?

[GommeInc]

Posting stats are up quite a bit on last December/January - will post the graph later.
Christmas Holidays probably had something to do with it :P

The whole "they shouldn't feel at the bottom of the pile" philosophy is utter rubbish though, they are at the bottom of the pile and it's incredibly unlikely they will notice the ranking system when signing up. When I join a forum, I tend to feel like a pile of rubbish because I'm technically a nobody. What makes up for that is post quality, not colour of a rank :P

[Jsoh]

Just out of interest, are you new (I know you joined a year a go) or is that a second account?

i started browsing the forums like 3 months ago and post every so often. :) it's my only account.

[AgnesIO]

i started browsing the forums like 3 months ago and post every so often. :) it's my only account.

Brilliant. Look, Josh has 21 posts - and he has COMMON SENSE. When I was new, after I realised what the ranks were, I wanted to get more posts to try and get a new colour etc. And guess what, I am nearing 10,000 posts and would like to get in to the next usergroup (for the extra features). So surely, having less features and a sensible colour as a new user will encourage them to post more, or like Josh, buy donator?

[jesus]

if you want better stuff;

- post more
or
- buy vip



................ the end

[Stephen]

donator you mean

[jesus]

it says VIP on the badge and my usertitle

[GommeInc]

it says VIP on the badge and my usertitle
Isn't that for being a member for x amounts of years? I swear anniversary VIP is different to donator. Not sure why it's important to discuss this but hey ho :P

[jesus]

ive no idea but all the vips in this thread have VIP on their badge so his point is invalid lol

p.s. hey gomme x

[FlyingJesus]

Let's all give a big hand to Jamie for proving that longevity, high userrank and post count do not guarantee a more valuable feedback

[GommeInc]

ive no idea but all the vips in this thread have VIP on their badge so his point is invalid lol

p.s. hey gomme x

Hey son of God ;) x
Hmm, there are a lot of VIP members :P I think Christmas VIP (which goes to charity) was popular this year, so that may be the reason.

[Stephen]

ive no idea but all the vips in this thread have VIP on their badge so his point is invalid lol

p.s. hey gomme x


but you can only buy vip at xmas time

[jesus]

well how am i supposed to know ive not been on here for about 5 years its the same thing anyway they just had to change the name coz habbo wer gona go mental at em

[Mr-Trainor]

Brilliant. Look, Josh has 21 posts - and he has COMMON SENSE. When I was new, after I realised what the ranks were, I wanted to get more posts to try and get a new colour etc. And guess what, I am nearing 10,000 posts and would like to get in to the next usergroup (for the extra features). So surely, having less features and a sensible colour as a new user will encourage them to post more, or like Josh, buy donator?

Same as me :P. When I first joined and even a few months later I always made the extra effort to post more often and reach the next level, especially when I was on bronze and silver. Even now I still do, although not always as much because I don't have as much time to do so. I'm aiming for 10000 posts, like you :P.

[Ajthedragon]

Same here, I was so happy when I became a silver member. :rolleyes:

[Chippiewill]

I liked the old system, it was a good incentive to get off that ****** turd coloured brown you call 'Bronze', also with it as it is now it's more difficult for me to disregard new user's opinions (That and as far as I can tell every single one of them decided to buy Donator).