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[Richie]

It's actually so frustrating when someone posts something on the forum in relation to Sam Broadcaster and it get moves into the habboxlive section. I personally think it should go into the technology section. I'm not quite sure why anything relating to Sam Broadcaster requesting advice normally gets moved into that section, it makes me feel like those moving the threads think no-one else on the forum has a clue about Sam Broadcaster.

Without shooting down habboxlive djs allot of their advice regarding Sam broadcaster is just plain right silly. I'm not quite sure why habboxlive is still recommending Sam broadcaster 2 over Sam broadcaster 4, fair enough at the early stages Sam Broadcaster 4 it had allot of flaws but now it's on steady grounds and those flaws have been repaired. Without a doubt Sam Broadcaster 4 is the best online broadcasting program to date and yes I am aware they have different bitrates but once the djs stick to the same kb/s and either stereo or mono it works perfectly.

So can I ask, whenever someone asks for help allow the public to offer their advice rather than cutting us off by putting it in a forum a regular member can't post in.

[Gina]

I agree there, I don't think it should be moved to the HxL forum thing because DJ's don't know everything, most forum members know more about what their saying, but are being like blanked from the post.

[Shar]

Although I totally understand your point the reason why I moved that particular thread to that section is because she specified that she applied to be a DJ and she said that she downloaded sam 4, I thought a DJ could answer and offer her help and point her in the right direction. If anyone else wishes to help they can always PM in these particular cases :P

[iLogan]

I think there was a thread about SAM4 ages ago, something to do with Bitrates and all that technical stuff, tbh I think we shouldn't be trying to fix something that isn't broken.

[Richie]

Although I totally understand your point the reason why I moved that particular thread to that section is because she specified that she applied to be a DJ and she said that she downloaded sam 4, I thought a DJ could answer and offer her help and point her in the right direction. If anyone else wishes to help they can always PM in these particular cases :P

I'm not blaming anyone I'm just saying it's a huge flaw and it sucks. I'm pretty sure you don't need to be habboxlive staff to answer something regarding sam broadcaster. My point is why should we have to pm them when it could be put in a forum where both habboxlive djs and regular members can reply? The habboxlive section says "Ask any questions about HabboxLive here" sam broadcaster does relate to habboxlive, yes but it isn't actually about the department. That's like someone making a thread "Hey I'm looking for a plugin for vbulletin 4" and a moderator moving it into the "Forum & Moderation" section.

[Kyle]

This is like moving all threads about graphics into a section that only graphics staff could post in. Just because she applied to be a dj does not mean that non-djs are not competent enough to provide her with answers.

[Richie]

I think there was a thread about SAM4 ages ago, something to do with Bitrates and all that technical stuff, tbh I think we shouldn't be trying to fix something that isn't broken.

What are you on about? I mentioned both versions can work together, that doesn't mean I said habboxlive must change. This thread is about regular users not being able to help with silly things like this.

[iLogan]

What are you on about? I mentioned sam broadcaster 2 and 4 can both work together, I never said habboxlive needs to change. This thread is about regular users not being able to help with silly things like this.

No, what I'm trying to say is that a thread about using SAM2 and SAM4 was made ages ago, they both have varying bit-rates which means the radio be of varying quality, which would get annoying.

But yeah I agree with having regular users being able to help.

[Kyle]

Radio djs are of varying quality anyway. If you're a good dj it wouldn't really matter what broadcasting software you're using lol. some people have clearer mics than others etc

[Richie]

No, what I'm trying to say is that a thread about using SAM2 and SAM4 together is to do with varying bit-rates with the two version meaning that the radio be of varying quality, which would get annoying.

"tbh I think we shouldn't be trying to fix something that isn't broken." so what was that referring to?

Although this is going off topic, the bitrate wouldn't really change once both djs are using mono and have the same kb/s. I'm pretty sure habboxlive don't allow sam broadcaster 4 because they are afraid of delayed changeovers, causing the radio to go offline. That is irrelevant though as the thread isn't aimed towards that.

[iLogan]

"tbh I think we shouldn't be trying to fix something that isn't broken." so what was that referring to?

Although this is going off topic, the bitrate wouldn't really change once both djs are on mono and have the same kb/s.

We use SAM2 or 3 at Habbox atm and it's fine, it doesn't need changing.

[Richie]

We use SAM2 or 3 at Habbox atm and it's fine, it doesn't need changing.

I'm not saying it does and why do you have to be so patronising? I am aware what habboxlive use. What I am trying to say is they could broaden the doors and allow other djs to use sam broadcaster 4 if they want to.

[iLogan]

I'm not saying it does and why do you have to be so patronising? I am aware what habboxlive use. What I am trying to say is they could broaden the doors and allow other djs to use sam broadcaster 4 if they want to.

I'm not being patronising, all I am saying is that I heard that it wouldn't be practical to start using SAM4 because everyone would have to change to SAM4.

[Calvin]

In my opinion, the ask the HabboxLive staff forum should only be used for HabboxLive queries to do with HabboxLive because all SAM Broadcaster problems can be posted in the Technology section where they are most likely to get more replies because there are much more members available to answer the question rather than a limited amount, faster replies which is the same as my previous point, and last of all better replies because sometimes you have DJs that just post there with no clue or say something like "I'll ask someone to answer this question for you". In the Technology section you have people who know about SAM Broadcaster so they can expand on any rubbish replies.

Threads about SAM should stay in the Technology section where they belong.

* Gets my protective armour on *

[Inseriousity.]

I'm not saying it does and why do you have to be so patronising? I am aware what habboxlive use. What I am trying to say is they could broaden the doors and allow other djs to use sam broadcaster 4 if they want to.

To be fair to Remel, that message didn't really come across in your original post so that might be why he got a bit defensive about the whole thing as your original post made it sound like you were suggesting all the DJs change to SAM4.

Anyway, I agree that these threads shouldn't really be moved simply for the HabboxLive DJs. They may not have the technical experience required to answer it where non-hxl techie experts could. That's not saying the DJs fail cos their job is to DJ (with the minimum techie knowledge required to do that job and some will therefore know more than others).

[Sharon]

Yeah I don't get why this would happen anyway? I agree it needs to stay in Technology. With the greatest respect towards HxL people, most of them are pretty young so it would make more sense to give it to the Technology section as they contain older members which are more likely to give the correct answer.

[scott]

I agree that kind of thread would be best suited to the technology section but I totally understand why Shar moved it to the HabboxLive forum. I'll make sure that in future the threads are moved into the appropriate forum within Technology & The web!

[GirlNextDoor15]

Yes. I agree with this. The thread should be moved to the technology section so that people could help those DJs who don't know anything about SAM Broadcaster. However, I think there must be some reasons why it is moved to HXL forum. Anyway, I don't understand why DJs don't know how to use SAM Broadcaster. I mean there are threads posted on HXL that'll teach them how to use SAM Broadcaster. DJ Jazz Woodsy also posted a SAM Broadcaster tutorial to help those young and new DJs. The main problem is they don't read those threads and they don't pay attention to HXF. Enough said.

[Grig]

Yes. I agree with this. The thread should be moved to the technology section so that people could help those DJs who don't know anything about SAM Broadcaster. However, I think there must be some reasons why it is moved to HXL forum. Anyway, I don't understand why DJs don't know how to use SAM Broadcaster. I mean there are threads posted on HXL that'll teach them how to use SAM Broadcaster. DJ Jazz Woodsy also posted a SAM Broadcaster tutorial to help those young and new DJs. The main problem is they don't read those threads and they don't pay attention to HXF. Enough said.


Are you blind? Richie said it was someone who WANTED to apply to be a DJ, not someone who was a DJ.

Also to the person who started getting all protective over SAM 2, take a hike. You are operating on ancient technology with a **** 96 kb/s mono bitrate, heck some DJs even use an even lower bitrate, that makes me feel like I'm listening to some 1960s television set.

Anyway, to the point there are many more people who know how to use SAM broadcaster on the forum MUCH better than many of the DJs, so it should all be in technology anyway.

[Charlottay!]

Especially since alot of old DJ's who have used SAM 2/3/4 for years are still around on the forum to give advice compared to some DJ's on the current staff list who have only being using it for a couple of weeks.
It should have always been in Tech section. - good shout richie :D

[GirlNextDoor15]

Are you blind? Richie said it was someone who WANTED to apply to be a DJ, not someone who was a DJ.

Also to the person who started getting all protective over SAM 2, take a hike. You are operating on ancient technology with a **** 96 kb/s mono bitrate, heck some DJs even use an even lower bitrate, that makes me feel like I'm listening to some 1960s television set.

Anyway, to the point there are many more people who know how to use SAM broadcaster on the forum MUCH better than many of the DJs, so it should all be in technology anyway.

Ok. Fine. I admit I didn't read the thread properly. Seriously, Grig. You don't have to come to me and say that to me. That's considered rude. And for those DJs who use lower bitrate, it's not like they want it. Sometimes, they lag and there's no other DJ to cover. So, they just lower it down. For your information, Jess and some other DJs did a workshop on how to use SAM broadcaster and how to DJ properly. It's not a problem and for the thread thing, I still think it should be moved to technology section. There's no reason why they don't know how to use SAM Broadcaster.

[Grig]

Ok. Fine. I admit I didn't read the thread properly. Seriously, Grig. You don't have to come to me and say that to me. That's considered rude. And for those DJs who use lower bitrate, it's not like they want it. Sometimes, they lag and there's no other DJ to cover. So, they just lower it down. For your information, Jess and some other DJs did a workshop on how to use SAM broadcaster and how to DJ properly. It's not a problem and for the thread thing, I still think it should be moved to technology section. There's no reason why they don't know how to use SAM Broadcaster.

I wasn't aware you talked about the bitrate on a previous post :S? To the second comment, if you can't handle 96 kb/s then get a new computer, no other fansite still uses 96, yet alone something lower. It's ridiculous.

ALSO LMAO, don't do a workshop, hire proper DJs, that's what's always been done, I never realized HxL DJ quality got that bad.

[GirlNextDoor15]

I wasn't aware you talked about the bitrate on a previous post :S? To the second comment, if you can't handle 96 kb/s then get a new computer, no other fansite still uses 96, yet alone something lower. It's ridiculous.

ALSO LMAO, don't do a workshop, hire proper DJs, that's what's always been done, I never realized HxL DJ quality got that bad.

No. Don't be silly. Not that a new computer will help us to handle 96 kb/s. There are also other factors that make us lag.
About the workshop subject, don't tell me. Tell ,Jess, about that. Apparently, someone suggested HXL to do workshops so that people will know how to DJ properly and then, they will apply. HXL DJ quality got that bad? I'm not sure about that. I think it's OK so far except we have had a few stubborn DJs that don't read HXL rules and follow it.

[Grig]

No. Don't be silly. Not that a new computer will help us to handle 96 kb/s. There are also other factors that make us lag.
About the workshop subject, don't tell me. Tell ,Jess, about that. Apparently, someone suggested HXL to do workshops so that people will know how to DJ properly and then, they will apply. HXL DJ quality got that bad? I'm not sure about that. I think it's OK so far except we have had a few stubborn DJs that don't read HXL rules and follow it.

Oh, I assumed it was for current DJs, if it was for people that wanted to DJ that's alright :). Also don't tell me not to be silly I know a lot more about HxL than you. Also, yes it will, if you can't handle 96 kb/s you must have a complete **** of a net connection and your comp speed is even more ****.

[GirlNextDoor15]

Oh, I assumed it was for current DJs, if it was for people that wanted to DJ that's alright :). Also don't tell me not to be silly I know a lot more about HxL than you. Also, yes it will, if you can't handle 96 kb/s you must have a complete **** of a net connection and your comp speed is even more ****.

I agree with you about the comp speed thing and the net connection. If we have problems with the net connection, we can't just change the computer. That won't help. The only solution left is to lower the bitrate. No other choices if there are no DJs to cover and you won't lag when you low down the bitrate.

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Lowering down the bitrate is still better than leaving the radio like that

[Grig]

I agree with you about the comp speed thing and the net connection. If we have problems with the net connection, we can't just change the computer. That won't help. The only solution left is to lower the bitrate. No other choices if there are no DJs to cover and you won't lag when you low down the bitrate.

---------- Post added 02-06-2011 at 05:11 PM ----------

Lowering down the bitrate is still better than leaving the radio like that

Yeh it will help LOL.

[GirlNextDoor15]

How can it help when the problem is the net connection. urgh

[Grig]

More often than not though, it's the computer speed being slow being clogged up by stuff.

[Conservative,]

Read the first 4 posts so sorry for repeating anything.

I agree with Richie. There are a lot of Ex-DJs and experienced people on the forum who can probably answer the question a lot better than most/all DJs. Not to criticise the DJs but for example, Richie is very knowledgeable about these things, whereas a new DJ may need help themselves. Just my opinion, I think anyone should be able to answer them.

[GirlNextDoor15]

Not everyone is afford to buy a new computer, Grig.. Financial issues. Tbh, it's not worth it to buy a new computer just for HXL. They can just delete stuff or format the whole computer like I did TWICE. *sigh*

Robbie, I agree with you.

[AgnesIO]

Not read the whole thread, as it will probably just be users agreeing or disagreeing with the OP.

However, I do agree with Richie here. Could I also point out, that I reckon a fair few of us 'nonDj's' know a hell of a lot more about SAM and any other software than most the DJs - that isn't being ignorant, but you really don't need to be a DJ to be able to work and understand a program lol

[rld]

I Use SAM 4 right now......

[Calvin]

Has HabboxLive tried any other Radio Automation programs such as RadioDJ?

[iLogan]

Has HabboxLive tried any other Radio Automation programs such as RadioDJ?

I don't think so, but in the DJ guide there's guides to software other than SAM, although I think everyone uses SAM.

[Calvin]

I don't think so, but in the DJ guide there's guides to software other than SAM, although I think everyone uses SAM.What other ones were there?

And I think Jess should have a look at RadioDJ and have a trial on air with that. It's pretty similar to SAM except the UI looks much better and quite easy to get your ideas implemented (and not to mention a personal logo when loading up! :P).

[iLogan]

1. Winamp with Shoutcast

Winamp w/ Shoutcast is typically used for sites with lower amounts of listeners. Winamp tends to be laggy and could easily freeze up and disconnect the radio. Although Winamp isn't an awful program to DJ with, there are betters! You wouldn't want to risk loosing your fans because of Winamp or Shoutcast freezing. One typical error with Winamp is when you are switching between 'Soundcard Input' and 'Winamp (Recommended)' it will freeze.

I would give Winamp/Shoutcast a 7/10.

You can download the latest version of Winamp by going to http://www.winamp.com (http://www.winamp.com/)
The latest version of the Shoutcast plug-in can be found at http://www.winamp.com or http://www.shoutcast.com (http://www.winamp.com/)

2. Virtual DJ

Virtual DJ has great features including fading, music volume, special effects, and scratching the DJ turntable! Easy to configure settings, easy to plug in the radio details! Virtual DJ is phenomenal in my opinion! I personally use Virtual DJ as my DJing program and it can work to your benefit! Great interfaces, friendly to use, song search and more! Instead of looking for a song, you can just type it in and it will automatically pull up anything it can. Virtual DJ also has built in DJ music. Virtual DJ can also record your DJing show!

I'd rate Virtual DJ 10/10.

You can get a 20 day trial of Virtual DJ for free at http://www.virtualDJ.com (http://www.virtualdj.com/)
Once your 20 day trial is over, it costs $299 to buy.

3. SAM Broadcaster

SAM Broadcaster is the third and last program I'm going to talk about. There are many versions of SAM Broadcaster, including versions 2, 3 and 4. When DJing with SAM, if you are experienced as a DJ, it can be really easy! SAM Broadcaster has three 'desktops', and you can drag and move anything around, customizing SAM Broadcaster to your benefit. SAM Broadcaster can have very many listeners without crashing, unlike Winamp.

I would give SAM Broadcaster 9/10.

Where can you get SAM Broadcaster? You can find a 14 day trial version at http://www.spacialaudio.com/products/sambroadcaster/

You also have the choice to purchase SAM Broadcaster on the same page:
http://www.spacialaudio.com/products/sambroadcaster/

That's what they recommend.

[AgnesIO]

Virtual DJ is superb.

Not sure if I am allowed to say, but I have the full version (obviously not paid for) if any DJs want it xx

[iLogan]

Virtual DJ is superb.

Not sure if I am allowed to say, but I have the full version (obviously not paid for) if any DJs want it xx

I think I used it once, but I swear is was more for like mixing songs etc rather than just plain old djing?

[AgnesIO]

I think I used it once, but I swear is was more for like mixing songs etc rather than just plain old djing?

I must admit I have never used it for DJing online.

I have found it is better at kids discos, nice and easy - without loads of equipment.