English - rest of britain divide?

[Casanova]

Hey!

Today I've noticed a few un-named members of our forum have particularly offensive views on other parts of 'Britain'.

I was just wondering what the general public thought of the divide that seems to be represented by some fanatic members? Do they agree? What's their opinion? Do they feel it's acceptable to be racist/unfair against someone just for their WHOLE country?

[David]

I think it's more to the side of prejudice or stereotype than racism, but I read the thread, what's her problem?

[Casanova]

Not sure, resentment.

[buttons]

I think it's more to the side of prejudice or stereotype than racism, but I read the thread, what's her problem?
he's a male and iirc he used to work for a scottish member (awfy) but was lazy as **** so got fired, prob holds a grudge lol

most of the time the jibes are just jokes between friends but how often do you see someone scottish/welsh/irish insult someone for being english? it's impossible because as there are so many you say one little thing about england then everyone will join in with everything wrong with scotland. like in the whole scottish referendum and stuff it was just "let them have their independance then they can rot" or whatever. i'm not expecting the english to defend scotland obviously but idk, it feels like england vs the rest and it's kinda annoying..... i don't see why where i'm from has to be used as an insult by people who don't even know me (obv i don't exp this irl :P)........... wish i never told anyone lol

[Richie]

I don't care all of Britain sucks lol

[Casanova]

it is annoying.
We don't make choices, our devolved government does; with restricted powers. They continuously state we should be independent but they forget we've never had the chance to voice our own opinion on the matter (referendum, thanks Alec all you do is promise but never dish out!) and they forget their government wants to hold onto us, hold onto our revenues and our assets- not just us clinging onto the apron strings.

Might I add, I'd like independance but it's not right for anyone?

[buttons]

it is annoying.
We don't make choices, our devolved government does; with restricted powers. They continuously state we should be independent but they forget we've never had the chance to voice our own opinion on the matter (referendum, thanks Alec all you do is promise but never dish out!) and they forget their government wants to hold onto us, hold onto our revenues and our assets- not just us clinging onto the apron strings.

Might I add, I'd like independance but it's not right for anyone?
He can't do much though because he was a minority government, harder to pass laws etc but maybe that'll change.
Anyway yeah I agree plus if England had their free education etc they would lap it up too lol
meh i'm just saying if someone uses 'scottish' to insult me (which i don't mind unless you're doing it to offend me) and i report it i want it to be dealt with now... idc if i "can't take a joke" or whatever. i got infracted once for saying canadians were ugly so i want mine to be dealt in the same way...

[Catzsy]

I think a few of the members have more extreme views than others but it is in the minority.
It has more to do with them believing the negative stereotypes that attach themselves to
each country really which is is a bit 'brain numbing' as Britain as a whole is a mix of all nationalities and race. If the truth be known it could also be said of everywhere except the south east of england if it is based on socio economics. A selfish view in my opinion as a high proportion of people pay taxes in all parts of Britain. Also because Scotland and Wale's priorities are Health and Education it means that there is less money going elsewhere. An example of this is waiting lists which are much higher than England.

[RockyHorror]

check out my fred in tv/film, that made my mind up about scottish people, totes should become a separate nation, giving us english a bad name.

Did you really just minus rep me for this comment Cassnova, too funny. I'm sure it's clear to most that the comment was made in jest. Add seriousness to Scottish people's bad qualities.

[AgnesIO]

I don't care all of Britain sucks lol

At least it can stay afloat ;)



I think it is standard for people to stereotype others though and give little jibes about each others countries. Could I give some examples (don't bother -repping, since two of these will be against me too ...)

1) Americans are all fat
2) Spanish are all lazy
3) English drink tea all day
4) Australians sit by BBQ's all day
5) Japanese are polite but mad
6) French are rude

I think saying some members are 'fanatics' is really justified either.

Sorry if I got the wrong end of the stick on this though :)

[RockyHorror]

I heard french people like garlic

[Casanova]

But it's not a stereotype, since when did a stereotype exist where scottish people were all tramps? I mean that makes no sense, how could a country exist like that!?

[redtom]

The Scottish are seen to "leach" of the rest of Britain as they want to be independent in every way apart from when they stop taking money out of the English pot, the same goes for Wales just the welsh accept that they couldn't exist without Britain. I'm not trying to be rude but that's the way it is.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Spending per head is higher in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland than it is in England thats a fact - despite that England foots most of the bill which has led to division because we increasingly see ourselves as Scottish/Welsh or English rather than British. Now where this has mainly come from is devolution, a terrible policy enacted by the last Labour government (and while the useless Conservatives stood by as they always do) which is leading to resentment and which will lead to the eventual breakup of the Union unless it is rolled back as it should be.

I take the Enoch Powell view which was spot on, that if these countries want their own parliaments then they should simply be independent because otherwise all it becomes is a federal subsidy machine from England to the other countries. A referendum should be held, asking the Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish whether or not they want to remain a part of the United Kingdom (thus scrapping devolution) or keep their parliaments and become independent. As a Unionist I would like them to stay with us, however its time to put the issue to bed once and for all. It is from the above that we have got ourselves into this situation where we have teenagers and so forth now arguing about devolution which was sold at the time as a way to solve slight differences, not make them worse as anyone with a thnking brain could have seen.

In terms of myself, I see myself as British.


..to be racist

I was unaware that any of these nations were differing races from one another, last time I checked we were all mainly caucasian?

[GommeInc]

I don't know how to answer the poll. There is a divide but it's nothing to worry about is the option I'd go for. I wouldn't say the whole forum is racist or the whole forums attitude to other countries is wrong, that's ridiculous :P

[HotelUser]

I think people just like to be patriotic, and that naturally clashes from time to time but that's the norm.

Speaking as a Canadian I'd have to say I'm pretty indifferent as to what to think about the UK because naturally I've never lived or been there.

[RockyHorror]

I think people just like to be patriotic, and that naturally clashes from time to time but that's the norm.

Speaking as a Canadian I'd have to say I'm pretty indifferent as to what to think about the UK because naturally I've never lived or been there.

But canadians get hella' offended if you call them american though right?

[HotelUser]

But canadians get hella' offended if you call them american though right?

A lot of Canadians would, sure, but that's because in retrospect America is a lot bigger than Canada, I think most Canadians would get angry at being called American because they don't think anyone thinks about Canada when we're right next to such a large superpower.

[myke]

Some people are just too politically minded and take it too far, it's not right, and its kinda sad, they're robbing themselves of adolescence... but whatever tickles their pickle :)

[Narnat,]

The Scottish are seen to "leach" of the rest of Britain as they want to be independent in every way apart from when they stop taking money out of the English pot, the same goes for Wales just the welsh accept that they couldn't exist without Britain. I'm not trying to be rude but that's the way it is.

There are only certain people who want an independent Scotland and I don't see were you are getting the steal from England from?

[Casanova]

BRB just flinging mud at my mudhut. **** this ******* rain, it's melting my walls! If only some top english purse could come pay for me and my house :'(?

I think the attitude demonstrated by BNPTOM are the problems we face.

[AgnesIO]

BRB just flinging mud at my mudhut. **** this ******* rain, it's melting my walls! If only some top english purse could come pay for me and my house :'(?

I think the attitude demonstrated by BNPTOM are the problems we face.

Who said that??

[Casanova]

Who said that??

I'm simply saying, people in other parts continuously think scotland is nothing without scotland, they taught us how to be gentlemanly, how to live, how to use cutlery... etc? Dear god scotland had a population before england :rolleyes:!

[Catzsy]

I'm simply saying, people in other parts continuously think scotland is nothing without scotland, they taught us how to be gentlemanly, how to live, how to use cutlery... etc? Dear god scotland had a population before england :rolleyes:!

I don't like this type of 'stereotyping' either. Interestingly I found out despite all the claims that 'England' subsidises Scotland in fact it receives 8.9% of revenue and raises 10% of revenue so that's that generic misconception confined to the trash can.

[Grig]

It's very dumb of you to stereotype, I've never done so but that's because I've had a very international background. Be the stereotype positive or negative, it is never a true reflection, I've met many fantastic people from specific places and upright ***** from those same places. It's these things that get into peoples heads and they really need to realize what this world is. For example, I've seen people on here on a few (rare, but they do pop up) occasions stereotyping Americans as being obese eating McDonald's etc. all the time, yet Germans are only .2% below America in their percentage of population overweight sats, the UK is only 6% lower. Yet no one ever admits to the fact that Britain's rate is quite a disturbing figure too.

Just like Rosie mentioned above, it is those exact misconceptions that people get, toppled onto by prejudice and a nationalistic attitude create this. Haven't personally seen the thread of the user who stimulated this feedback, but they seem to live in a very confined world and have not experienced much from outside this "world".

[AgnesIO]

It's very dumb of you to stereotype, I've never done so but that's because I've had a very international background. Be the stereotype positive or negative, it is never a true reflection, I've met many fantastic people from specific places and upright ***** from those same places. It's these things that get into peoples heads and they really need to realize what this world is. For example, I've seen people on here on a few (rare, but they do pop up) occasions stereotyping Americans as being obese eating McDonald's etc. all the time, yet Germans are only .2% below America in their percentage of population overweight sats, the UK is only 6% lower. Yet no one ever admits to the fact that Britain's rate is quite a disturbing figure too.

Just like Rosie mentioned above, it is those exact misconceptions that people get, toppled onto by prejudice and a nationalistic attitude create this. Haven't personally seen the thread of the user who stimulated this feedback, but they seem to live in a very confined world and have not experienced much from outside this "world".

It doesn't matter about your background. I am virtually certain you are stereotyped someone before. It is completely normal to do so..

[redtom]

BRB just flinging mud at my mudhut. **** this ******* rain, it's melting my walls! If only some top english purse could come pay for me and my house :'(?

I think the attitude demonstrated by BNPTOM are the problems we face.

I'm not saying the Scottish are poor themselves (my family has lived there and my Brother does now, so I'm not some racist stereotyping you) or that they live in worse places than the rest of Britain, just that you could financially support yourselves.

You can goggle it for yourselves and you'll see there have been studies which clearly show how Scotland could barely stay afloat for the first few years until it would be in crisis, the counter arguments to these are hopeful at the best replying on British banks which blows the whole independence idea out the window.

Its probably easy putting it this way - England is the only country in Britain which could financially support itself without Britain.


There are only certain people who want an independent Scotland and I don't see were you are getting the steal from England from?

Unlucky for you the people who represent Scotland want it, or at least its the portrayed that way through the media. Scotland couldn't exist how it is now without the money it gets from England its the same as Wales, Fact. Its harsh but it is true.

[Agnostic Bear]

An entire thread made for me I'm honoured :3

I'm also half Scottish! An actual true fact.

worthless life story below
Also ~just as a thing~ I don't care about the silly youmeo thing, the bossman didn't pay his younguns on time, worked them into oblivion, so I did as little as possible and left when I saw it wasn't going to get better.

Lo and behold it failed and I have no idea what Simon/Greg are up to, I hope it goes well for them I truly do.