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xxMATTGxx
13-09-2011, 07:35 PM
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/imagegallery/images/products/windows/windows8/screenshot_lockScreen_page.jpghttp://www.microsoft.com/presspass/imagegallery/images/products/windows/windows8/screenshot_startScreen_page.jpg

So did anyone else watch the BUILD steam on buildwindows.com? I know I did and two other members on the forum did with me. I have to say, Microsoft have done a very good job so far on Windows 8. It looks fantastic and some of the features I really can't wait to try out. I'm so going to get the developer preview and see what it is like, yes I know it's just a preview.

"In 1995, Windows changed the PC. BUILD will show you that Windows 8 changes everything."

There is many many articles on the internet with a lot of videos and screenshots of what they showed.

Note: This is still pre-release, the version that will be downloadable is a developer pre-release. This isn't Beta or final.

Some links:

http://www.winrumors.com/windows-8-really-does-change-everything-its-mind-blowing/
http://www.neowin.net/news/preview-the-first-windows-8-tablet-by-samsung
http://www.neowin.net/news/download-windows-8-developer-preview-tonight-at-8-pm-pdt
http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-introducing-windows-8039s-tablet-interface-metro
http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-whats-new-on-the-desktop-experience
http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-8-app-store-approval-policy-outlined
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/13/windows-8-details-new-features-ui-enhancements-and-everything/

Some nice screenshots of certain parts of the preview:

Part 1:
http://www.winsupersite.com/article/windows8/windows-8-developer-preview-screenshots-part-1-140548

Part 2:
http://www.winsupersite.com/article/windows8/windows-8-developer-preview-screenshots-part-2-140549

Recursion
13-09-2011, 07:37 PM
Apple doesn't have **** on this. This truly is the post-PC era if MS can keep this going IMO, one device you can easily dock anywhere as your main PC and then use on the sofa, kitchen etc.

Perhaps iOS will slowly start losing market share to this, considering it's a lot more user friendly in terms of what it can actually do in comparison to iOS and the hardware the tablets are going to sport (USB, HDMI, etc etc).

HotelUser
13-09-2011, 07:41 PM
I am interested in how they're advertising deving in js for desktop apps. Does anyone know if you need an MSDN account to download Windows 8 tomorrow? If so I'll be hoping the torrents are up within the day.


Apple doesn't have **** on this. This truly is the post-PC era if MS can keep this going IMO, one device you can easily dock anywhere as your main PC and then use on the sofa, kitchen etc.

Perhaps iOS will slowly start losing market share to this, considering it's a lot more user friendly in terms of what it can actually do in comparison to iOS and the hardware the tablets are going to sport (USB, HDMI, etc etc).

What do you mean? Hasn't Apple been selling tablets for abit now and Google with Android?

xxMATTGxx
13-09-2011, 07:42 PM
I am interested in how they're advertising deving in js for desktop apps. Does anyone know if you need an MSDN account to download Windows 8 tomorrow? If so I'll be hoping the torrents are up within the day.


What do you mean? Hasn't Apple been selling tablets for abit now and Google with Android?

There is no activation and at the moment we think it may be open to anyone to download it. But if it's on torrents then fair do's as Microsoft stated there is no activation anyway.

Recursion
13-09-2011, 07:43 PM
I am interested in how they're advertising deving in js for desktop apps. Does anyone know if you need an MSDN account to download Windows 8 tomorrow? If so I'll be hoping the torrents are up within the day.

What do you mean? Hasn't Apple been selling tablets for abit now and Google with Android?

What I mean, is that Apple's current tablet software is nowhere near anything like what we've seen with Windows 8 so far. Imagine being able to use your Windows PC generally, docked with a keyboard and mouse, then just pulling it out, it switching to Metro UI so that you can just go lounge around in your living room or something, or take it to work. One device to do everything would be great.

HotelUser
13-09-2011, 07:51 PM
What I mean, is that Apple's current tablet software is nowhere near anything like what we've seen with Windows 8 so far. Imagine being able to use your Windows PC generally, docked with a keyboard and mouse, then just pulling it out, it switching to Metro UI so that you can just go lounge around in your living room or something, or take it to work. One device to do everything would be great.

I think we're already seeing Apple begin converting OS X into a tablet platform, especially with Lion and I had thought you mentioned not liking how they're changing it into a mobile platform in ways (if you didn't say that I know there's a lot of folks who did). I think that's going to come into play at one point or another. Anyways with Windows 8 and what you said about the full power of a desktop platform it's something I'm looking forward to but only if tablet producers are willing to match the iPad in battery life (important to me!). I'd also like to see if the ARM version of 8 is watered down in any ways. I'd like to eventually be able to play games on a Windows 8 tablet for instance. A concern would be if game producers don't port engines over to run on the ARM architecture and excluded support for Windows 8 on ARM. I think if companies start doing that in the future it would devastate me :P.

So anyways for University next year I'll be deciding between a MacBook or a Windows 8 tablet and I am determined to wait until then before I buy any more computers/tablets (*ignores fact that I just bought a potential 3 HP TouchPads).


There is no activation and at the moment we think it may be open to anyone to download it. But if it's on torrents then fair do's as Microsoft stated there is no activation anyway.

I have a fairly older but expensive at the time ASUS EEE 901 netbook kicking around and I'd like to see how that runs 8. That quick boot they did before was that on an SSD or HD with a BIOS or an EFI? Do we know if that's going to be included in the public release?

xxMATTGxx
13-09-2011, 07:53 PM
I think we're already seeing Apple begin converting OS X into a tablet platform, especially with Lion and I had thought you mentioned not liking how they're changing it into a mobile platform in ways (if you didn't say that I know there's a lot of folks who did). I think that's going to come into play at one point or another. Anyways with Windows 8 and what you said about the full power of a desktop platform it's something I'm looking forward to but only if tablet producers are willing to match the iPad in battery life (important to me!). I'd also like to see if the ARM version of 8 is watered down in any ways. I'd like to eventually be able to play games on a Windows 8 tablet for instance. A concern would be if game producers don't port engines over to run on the ARM architecture and excluded support for Windows 8 on ARM. I think if companies start doing that in the future it would devastate me :P.

So anyways for University next year I'll be deciding between a MacBook or a Windows 8 tablet and I am determined to wait until then before I buy any more computers/tablets (*ignores fact that I just bought a potential 3 HP TouchPads).



I have a fairly older but expensive at the time ASUS EEE 901 netbook kicking around and I'd like to see how that runs 8. That quick boot they did before was that on an SSD or HD with a BIOS or an EFI? Do we know if that's going to be included in the public release?

In terms of the bottom part of your post aimed at me.

The quick boots have been shown on EFI, I'm not sure if they did show BIOS but there should be improvements on both. In the dev preview there should be some sort of quick booting which you have seen in previous videos and in the demos today:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Uh-fodAd6E

On the Dev tablet/computer they handed out with the preview version installed.

HotelUser
13-09-2011, 07:55 PM
In terms of the bottom part of your post aimed at me.

The quick boots have been shown on EFI, I'm not sure if they did show BIOS but there should be improvements on both. In the dev preview there does seem to be included:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Uh-fodAd6E

The Netbook in question has two SSDs, one very fast 4GB and one slower SSD of 16GB. If I can even fit the OS on either it would be nice but it will be interesting to see how fast it boots on a fresh install on an atom. When I originally got it, it came shipped with XP and after installing Tiny XP on the 4GB SSD boot times on a fresh install ranged between 10 and 15 seconds.

GoldenMerc
13-09-2011, 08:22 PM
Looks really good, Look forward to getting it!

xxMATTGxx
13-09-2011, 09:16 PM
One of the things that made people laugh:

Sinofsky on IE10: "It's completely chromeless, and I don't think anything is better than entirely Chrome-free browsing experience."

(It wasn't actually intended to be a dig at Google Chrome, before someone takes it too serious)

October
13-09-2011, 09:23 PM
AH I can't wait to get this.

It'll be available to download/test tomorrow?

Stephen!
13-09-2011, 09:28 PM
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/09/windows-8-dev-preview.jpg

Chippiewill
13-09-2011, 09:35 PM
Completely free copy of windows anyone? (With bugs)

xxMATTGxx
13-09-2011, 09:44 PM
Completely free copy of windows anyone? (With bugs)

And missing features.

October
13-09-2011, 09:59 PM
How long until the actual beta comes out? I'd rather try that than the developer's.

xxMATTGxx
13-09-2011, 10:02 PM
How long until the actual beta comes out? I'd rather try that than the developer's.

Microsoft said something on the lines of:

Windows 8 beta is going to be driven by quality, not by a date.

peteyt
13-09-2011, 10:57 PM
Just curious. I gather Windows 8, and its new start menu will have like a classic setting, so those who prefer the old style can turn back?

I mean I'll try the new replacement and it looks like it could be easier its just getting used to it. But it is always handy to have multiple choices.

N!ck
13-09-2011, 11:11 PM
Their Twitter channel has confirmed that it will be open for anybody to download.

N!ck
14-09-2011, 12:04 AM
It is time.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/home/

HotelUser
14-09-2011, 12:14 AM
It is time.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/home/

Thanks for that, downloading 32 and 64 bit versions now.

N!ck
14-09-2011, 12:26 AM
Thanks for that, downloading 32 and 64 bit versions now.

Yep, I just grabbed the x64. I will play with it in the morning, but now it is bed time :).

:LUFC:
14-09-2011, 12:33 AM
I want to try this windows 8 out, but if i install it wont it get rid of my current Windows 7 ?
Or is there a way to install it without getting rid of my current OS

October
14-09-2011, 12:59 AM
I want to try this windows 8 out, but if i install it wont it get rid of my current Windows 7 ?
Or is there a way to install it without getting rid of my current OSThis, completely. I think we just install it on a new drive?

Stephen
14-09-2011, 01:24 AM
Create a new partition

Pieman
14-09-2011, 01:35 AM
SWEET, MAH FIRST BSOD!

http://i.imgur.com/mpFxg.png

JUST STARTED INSTALLING IT TOO!

Stephen
14-09-2011, 01:53 AM
:O I like it tbh Bit confusing at first but it's really nice

http://i.imgur.com/G4WY3.png

Stephen!
14-09-2011, 02:09 AM
Lol, still downloading here at a whopping 100kb/s!

Stephen
14-09-2011, 02:17 AM
omg I'm in love with the lockscreen even without touch. Hope they add it so you can click and drag on the start bit instead of having to use the scroll bar though. I'm surprised how stable it is

Stephen!
14-09-2011, 02:20 AM
Can you set it so it boots up straight in to the desktop instead of the Metro screen?

xxMATTGxx
14-09-2011, 06:40 AM
Just curious. I gather Windows 8, and its new start menu will have like a classic setting, so those who prefer the old style can turn back?

I mean I'll try the new replacement and it looks like it could be easier its just getting used to it. But it is always handy to have multiple choices.



I don't know if this will change but I have a feeling everyone will have to use that metro interface at somepoint. As when you click the start button in normal desktop view, it takes you to the metro interface and also the control panel is in there. Maybe they will have an option to disable it but who knows.

Downloading it now as I wasn't up at 3amish! :P


Edit: Scrap the above in regards of the control panel, according to an article on Neowin:

"We should also note that the classic control panel is still available. The new layout is easy to navigate and relatively clutter free. Take a look at the video above and let us know your thoughts on the layout."

I would assume there may be some way to get the "Old" style start menu back for people who would like that back over the new interface. But if there isn't, I'm not too bothered by that.


SWEET, MAH FIRST BSOD!

http://i.imgur.com/mpFxg.png

JUST STARTED INSTALLING IT TOO!

Congratulations! Nice BSOD, still tells you the error message as well but a lot user friendly.

October
14-09-2011, 07:10 AM
@xxMATTGxx did it overwrite your old OS or what?

xxMATTGxx
14-09-2011, 07:13 AM
@xxMATTGxx did it overwrite your old OS or what?

I haven't installed it but I would imagine it would if you chose it to. I'll be installing it on an empty hard drive I have in my system so it doesn't affect my current Windows 7 installation or data.

October
14-09-2011, 07:14 AM
I haven't installed it but I would imagine it would if you chose it to. I'll be installing it on an empty hard drive I have in my system so it doesn't affect my current Windows 7 installation or data.
Ah, that's what I mean haha, how do I go about doing that?

Recursion
14-09-2011, 07:58 AM
Downloading x64 with Dev Tools as we speak :)

N!ck
14-09-2011, 09:06 AM
Lol, still downloading here at a whopping 100kb/s!

Are you using Google's public DNS? If so, that is why.

Recursion
14-09-2011, 10:15 AM
Just extracting it now... hopefully Windows 7's method of USB install will work with 8, gunna try it as my laptop's primary OS.

October
14-09-2011, 10:56 AM
It didn't ask me where I'd like it to be installed at. :/
Oh wells.

Recursion
14-09-2011, 11:23 AM
Found this neat little app... the background is a video, it looks HOT.

http://mattgarner.net/upload/images/1316064327.png

EDIT: Lol, need to change to celsius, and no pun intended above!

Stephen
14-09-2011, 12:18 PM
It didn't ask me where I'd like it to be installed at. :/
Oh wells.

You need to boot from disc etc to install to another partition/hdd

Stephen!
14-09-2011, 12:52 PM
Doesn't boot any quicker than Windows 7 on my machine...

How do you turn on that quickboot feature?

Recursion
14-09-2011, 12:55 PM
Doesn't boot any quicker than Windows 7 on my machine...

How do you turn on that quickboot feature?

Didn't think you need to? It seems to boot a lot quicker on my laptop than 7 ever did.

October
14-09-2011, 01:05 PM
There wouldn't happen to be any way to remove this from my laptop, would there?

Recursion
14-09-2011, 01:08 PM
You'll have to reinstall Windows probably.

Stephen
14-09-2011, 01:09 PM
You gotta restore to remove it

Stephen!
14-09-2011, 01:10 PM
Didn't think you need to? It seems to boot a lot quicker on my laptop than 7 ever did.

Yeah it's quick, but it sickens me to see that a tablet can boot this OS faster than my PC :P

I'm not sure I'm too keen on the new Aero theme, not decided on the "squareness" of it yet.

You can definitely sense it has touch actions in mind though.

I keep going to press start in order to load up my favorite programs but it loads the metro stuff up lol. Same thing with searching. It's just added an extra step to the process.

October
14-09-2011, 01:12 PM
Please don't tell me I'd have to restore it to factory settings. :x

Stephen!
14-09-2011, 01:13 PM
Please don't tell me I'd have to restore it to factory settings. :x

If you installed the preview over your Windows 7, then yes.

Why would you even do that, anyway?

xxMATTGxx
14-09-2011, 02:11 PM
There seems to be a way to get the old start menu back according to a neowin article.

October
14-09-2011, 02:36 PM
If you installed the preview over your Windows 7, then yes.

Why would you even do that, anyway?

It doesn't support most of the applications in Windows 7, mainly. Plus I'm not a developer. Mainly because I ****** up installing it, instead of it being on a separate partition it is on the same, over 7.

Stephen!
14-09-2011, 03:08 PM
I love the new task manager.

xxMATTGxx
14-09-2011, 03:09 PM
Now home at last, so I can install it on one of my other hard drives and have a play around! =]

Stephen!
14-09-2011, 03:32 PM
I notice it has a high crash rate if you try to log off or shut down / reboot.

Aha! Just figured out how to do Hybrid Boot. It's amazingly quick.

Markeh
14-09-2011, 03:39 PM
Might just have to try this out on my old Toshiba L300, a laptop that runs 7 decently enough... will download it overnight, though chances are VM's lovely router will disconnect me long before that.

xxMATTGxx
14-09-2011, 03:49 PM
Might just have to try this out on my old Toshiba L300, a laptop that runs 7 decently enough... will download it overnight, though chances are VM's lovely router will disconnect me long before that.

May want to get your router sorted out then.

Stephen
14-09-2011, 03:58 PM
it was starting up really slow on my laptop but after turning off hybrid boot then turning it back on wow it's fast. Might use it as the main os on my lil laptop

peteyt
14-09-2011, 04:28 PM
It doesn't support most of the applications in Windows 7, mainly. Plus I'm not a developer. Mainly because I ****** up installing it, instead of it being on a separate partition it is on the same, over 7.

It's bound to probably have compatibility problems being in Beta. You should never download a Beta operating system if your unsure of what your doing as its mainly for developers and will probably have some problems, bugs etc. I only downloaded the Beta of Windows 7 when I had a second really old computer. Probably won't touch Windows 8 as I can't risk anything happening to this computer (use it daily for business)

xxMATTGxx
14-09-2011, 04:32 PM
It's bound to probably have compatibility problems being in Beta. You should never download a Beta operating system if your unsure of what your doing as its mainly for developers and will probably have some problems, bugs etc. I only downloaded the Beta of Windows 7 when I had a second really old computer. Probably won't touch Windows 8 as I can't risk anything happening to this computer (use it daily for business)

Windows 8 isn't even in beta yet.

peteyt
14-09-2011, 05:01 PM
Windows 8 isn't even in beta yet.

Well build or whatever. People should really only try it if they know what they are doing.

xxMATTGxx
14-09-2011, 05:05 PM
Well build or whatever. People should really only try it if they know what they are doing.

I agree with that, I was just saying it's not even in beta yet :P

xxMATTGxx
14-09-2011, 05:46 PM
500,000 downloads of Windows 8 Developer Preview so far.

Stephen
14-09-2011, 05:46 PM
i love the games

xxMATTGxx
14-09-2011, 05:49 PM
Gotta love Steve Ballmer, just said this some minutes ago at the BUILD keynote:

"Seize the opportunity for developers, developers, developers!" If anyone remembers that video of him chanting developers :P


Tom Warren: 'I've never witnessed this much excitement in a Microsoft audience at a keynote before. It's electric'

Stephen!
14-09-2011, 06:26 PM
Anyone know how to remove the build number watermark on the desktop?

Michael-
14-09-2011, 06:50 PM
Just wondering if any of you guys know, Is it possible for me to download this windows 8 Dev build onto a flash usb drive? Then install it from there. ( can just remove the memory stick from my laptop when i want to get rid of win8)

I want to keep my current OS (win 7) but also want to be able to run Win8 to try it out.

I know you can partition your hard drive but thats something im not comfortable doing.

Thanks if any of you guys know how i can install it without loosing my current os.

Markeh
14-09-2011, 09:05 PM
Gonna download this as 32-bit and 64-bit, and see if I can run it on my 2 decentish spare systems - my L300, and my spare desktop, Compaq Evo D51S with a 2GHz Pentium 4 -cries- Let's see what happens...

Stephen
14-09-2011, 09:15 PM
i jump up and down everytime my laptop starts and shuts down now

October
15-09-2011, 12:06 AM
LOL I hope that when this is released on computers it has a Page Left/Right button haha...

Btw is anyone else having a problem when you type it randomly starts typing in a different word or whatever, just screwing up entirely?

peteyt
15-09-2011, 02:34 AM
Just wondering if any of you guys know, Is it possible for me to download this windows 8 Dev build onto a flash usb drive? Then install it from there. ( can just remove the memory stick from my laptop when i want to get rid of win8)

I want to keep my current OS (win 7) but also want to be able to run Win8 to try it out.

I know you can partition your hard drive but thats something im not comfortable doing.

Thanks if any of you guys know how i can install it without loosing my current os.

I highly doubt it. I'm no expert but I'm sure to run Windows you'd need it directly installed. Don't think a USB could support it, just for installing. Although I could be wrong.

The only other way is the way you mentioned and having 2 partitions.

HotelUser
15-09-2011, 03:01 AM
Just wondering if any of you guys know, Is it possible for me to download this windows 8 Dev build onto a flash usb drive? Then install it from there. ( can just remove the memory stick from my laptop when i want to get rid of win8)

I want to keep my current OS (win 7) but also want to be able to run Win8 to try it out.

I know you can partition your hard drive but thats something im not comfortable doing.

Thanks if any of you guys know how i can install it without loosing my current os.

You could give this a shot, I've never tried it but it claims to work for Windows 8:

http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-install-windows-7vista-from-usb-drive-detailed-100-working-guide/

There's many tutorials for various USB installations of Windows on the net too, if this one should prove to fail.

peteyt
15-09-2011, 04:17 AM
You could give this a shot, I've never tried it but it claims to work for Windows 8:

http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-install-windows-7vista-from-usb-drive-detailed-100-working-guide/

There's many tutorials for various USB installations of Windows on the net too, if this one should prove to fail.

I'm not sure if that is exactly what the user wants. It sounds like he wants to have a portable version of Windows 8 so instead of actually installing it from the USB device he wants to boot a copy from the device - in other words use windows 8 with the memory stick in, take the stick out to use Windows 7. I'm not sure if its possible, I doubt it, but again I could be wrong. Even if you could you'd need lots of GB and most USB's can't hold that much.

Recursion
15-09-2011, 08:27 AM
I'm not sure if that is exactly what the user wants. It sounds like he wants to have a portable version of Windows 8 so instead of actually installing it from the USB device he wants to boot a copy from the device - in other words use windows 8 with the memory stick in, take the stick out to use Windows 7. I'm not sure if its possible, I doubt it, but again I could be wrong. Even if you could you'd need lots of GB and most USB's can't hold that much.

It's possible, but as you say, you'd need a big enough USB stick, 16GB at least, possibly more.

And @ David, the USB drive installation method does work as it does with Vista/7, I did it that way.

HotelUser
15-09-2011, 11:38 AM
It's possible, but as you say, you'd need a big enough USB stick, 16GB at least, possibly more.

And @ David, the USB drive installation method does work as it does with Vista/7, I did it that way.

Good, I plan on doing that to the netbook this afternoon proceeding class.

GoldenMerc
15-09-2011, 06:01 PM
Couldn't hold back, Installed as Main OS

AgnesIO
15-09-2011, 07:10 PM
Heyy :)

Just wanted to ask is there an easier way to download the dev preview?

Got to 1.6gb (or around that) twice now of 4.8gb, but have lost my internet connection both times. This makes my download "interrupted" and will then not continue downloading. It will take all year if it does this every time!

Any idea on how to download it without it screwing up?


Edited by Catzsy (Forum Super Moderator): Thread merged as on same topic

Recursion
15-09-2011, 07:14 PM
Use a download manager such as DownThemAll! or Internet Download Manager (IDM).

Jack!
15-09-2011, 07:17 PM
torrent it?

AgnesIO
15-09-2011, 07:17 PM
Use a download manager such as DownThemAll! or Internet Download Manager (IDM).

Excellent, thanks Tom!

Might actually get it now :L

---------- Post added 15-09-2011 at 08:20 PM ----------

Is it me, or does IDM also make it download faster? Seem to be getting faster speeds than I was just using chrome..

Stephen!
15-09-2011, 07:22 PM
4.8GB? Why are you getting that version? Do you need the developer tools?

AgnesIO
15-09-2011, 07:26 PM
4.8GB? Why are you getting that version? Do you need the developer tools?

I am learning to develop apps etc, so thought I would take a look out of interest. Although doing it on a second PC - save on the clean install..

xxMATTGxx
15-09-2011, 07:52 PM
Interesting:



Microsoft demonstrated its Xbox LIVE support for Windows 8 on Thursday.


“It’s a huge opportunity for you as developers,” explained Ben-Menahem on Thursday. Microsoft has done some incredible graphics work in Windows 8 to improve the speed of game launches and their performance. Microsoft is bringing the following features to Windows 8 Xbox LIVE:


Roaming save state
Title managed storage
Beacons
Avatar awards
Avatars
Friends list and community
Achievements and gamerscore
Multiplayer
Roaming storage
Real time counting services
Achievements


Ben-Menahem demonstrated achievement support in Xbox LIVE for Windows 8 using Pinball FX2 (see below). The game launched very quickly and was smooth throughout the demo. Microsoft is implementing Metro style notifications in the lower left hand of Xbox LIVE games in Windows 8. The notifications slide into view for achievements and appear green in color at this stage of development.

Perhaps the most interesting part of Microsoft’s Xbox LIVE implementation is the fact that Microsoft is building async multiplayer into the platform. Async multiplayer will allow Windows PCs, Windows Phone and Xbox 360 users to play against each other using multiplayer and matchmaking functionality. The support brings a new level of multiplayer gaming to Xbox LIVE once Windows 8 is available.

http://www.winrumors.com/xbox-live-windows-8-gamers-can-play-against-pc-win-phone-and-xbox-video/

Chippiewill
15-09-2011, 07:57 PM
Is it me, or does IDM also make it download faster? Seem to be getting faster speeds than I was just using chrome..

Download managers tend to make multiple connections and download different bits at the same time, makes it a bit faster.

HotelUser
15-09-2011, 11:09 PM
I'm running into some turbulence here on the netbook. It's installed fine it seems but I'm going through the welcome setup screens now and it's freezing and taking a very long time to load - I'm on a screen with just a black background now. I don't think this was made to run on a single cored Atom - I think I'll need more juice!

Edit: to update when you set it up you specify a Windows Live account. I put my GMail since I sign into MSN with that. It worked on initial setup fine but upon rebooting when it asks for my password and I put it in it says it's wrong. This seems like a problem...

peteyt
16-09-2011, 01:00 AM
Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but was on a Blog when I noticed an article. Windows 8 is going to support Mounting VHD and ISO files. Pretty handy in my opinion and will mean people wont have to rely on virtual CD drive Software such as Daemon Tools and MagicDisc (MagicISO counterpart). Although I wonder if this will put a huge chunk in those companies earnings.

http://www.burnworld.com/blog/mount-vhd-iso-files-windows-8-standard/

HotelUser
16-09-2011, 02:28 AM
I've fixed the login problem. Actually to fix it I've had to go to passport.net and change my WindowsLive password (I'm not sure why that actually ended up fixing it - perhaps because I had a gmail account for my WindowsLive account as opposed to a @hotmail or @msn address which strikes the question, how do you login if you're not connected to the internet?). Either way I managed to get in. Boot time was 48 seconds and shutdown time 23 with nothing open or nothing third party installed. Not great performance I have to admit but I was running it on a three year old single core netbook on the slower of two 12GB SSDs (and I'm actually not sure how slow that SSD is but something tells me it might even be slower than the average hard drive's R/W).

If/when HP cancels my online TouchPad order due to lack of units (even though I ordered days before other folks who did get theirs (they so lied about first come first serve!)) I was contemplating buying a Windows tablet (with battery life 5 hours +) that I could install Windows 8 on. I think even though it couldn't have sucked even worse than it did on my netbook, that it will probably be just fine on something with a little more power to it.

The only problem with this plan is I think there's around 2 Windows tablets that I know of and -1 of those are available to me locally. If anyone owns or knows of a pretty good tablet machine I'd appreciate being able to check into it.

xxMATTGxx
16-09-2011, 08:40 AM
Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but was on a Blog when I noticed an article. Windows 8 is going to support Mounting VHD and ISO files. Pretty handy in my opinion and will mean people wont have to rely on virtual CD drive Software such as Daemon Tools and MagicDisc (MagicISO counterpart). Although I wonder if this will put a huge chunk in those companies earnings.

http://www.burnworld.com/blog/mount-vhd-iso-files-windows-8-standard/



Ah yes, I do quite like that feature. I also like how you no longer need a 3rd party application for the task bar to be extended onto multiple monitors. I've also come across the following:

Microsoft demonstrates Windows To Go, running Windows 8 from USB


Windows 8 will default boot to a Windows To Go drive if one is inserted into a system
Core drivers will be bundled in Windows To Go to avoid situations where Windows Update is unavailable
It will support USB 2.0 and 3.0
There is no Hibernate mode in Windows To Go
Windows To Go will operate on legacy BIOS and new UEFI firmware
Crash and Dump will be available for Windows To Go


Demo Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFSLy2u4eCc

Source: http://www.winrumors.com/microsoft-demonstrates-windows-to-go-running-windows-8-from-usb/

Here's a long list of features or things Microsoft is working on in Windows 8:

http://www.winrumors.com/heres-a-list-of-300-windows-8-features-that-microsoft-didnt-show/

October
16-09-2011, 11:18 AM
Anyone know how I access paint? lol...

Bodon
16-09-2011, 11:31 AM
When will Microsoft making Windows have a pretty interface like Mac OSX?
I know it sound ridiculous and impossible, but hey, this is what the customer/user wanted.
The current Windows 7 interface is glass/aero like, and I'm bored and sick of that.
I need something new and more delicate look like Mac OSX.

Windows 8 sure is amazing in term of functionality but I doubt bout its interface. :D

GommeInc
16-09-2011, 12:08 PM
When will Microsoft making Windows have a pretty interface like Mac OSX?
I know it sound ridiculous and impossible, but hey, this is what the customer/user wanted.
The current Windows 7 interface is glass/aero like, and I'm bored and sick of that.
I need something new and more delicate look like Mac OSX.

Windows 8 sure is amazing in term of functionality but I doubt bout its interface. :D

Huge opinion based post you've got there :P I would say "glass" (as you described Windows 7 Aero) is more delicate than what looks like aluminium which you get with Mac OSX. The Mac look is pretty miserable, why would you want something grey? The Windows interface is possibly more customisable than the OSX interface, so if you do not like it you can easily change it :)

Bodon
16-09-2011, 12:17 PM
Huge opinion based post you've got there :P I would say "glass" (as you described Windows 7 Aero) is more delicate than what looks like aluminium which you get with Mac OSX. The Mac look is pretty miserable, why would you want something grey? The Windows interface is possibly more customisable than the OSX interface, so if you do not like it you can easily change it :)

I do try on many vs available over deviantart such as http://fatezoom.deviantart.com/art/Ueis-251181664 which is similar to Mac OSX.
And I even made one similar to Mac OSX http://phd7.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d3eq70x
But ya must know, it is not fun to customized your "pure" Windows. It feel like you're stripping and rapping Windows.
And I also try this beautiful glass vs for Windows 7. But it is getting boring.
So I think Microsoft should consider the beautiful Mac OSX. For you, Mac OSX might look boring and dull but for me it look so pretty and delicate. Ya should digg it up a bit.

Recursion
16-09-2011, 12:40 PM
I do try on many vs available over deviantart such as http://fatezoom.deviantart.com/art/Ueis-251181664 which is similar to Mac OSX.
And I even made one similar to Mac OSX http://phd7.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d3eq70x
But ya must know, it is not fun to customized your "pure" Windows. It feel like you're stripping and rapping Windows.
And I also try this beautiful glass vs for Windows 7. But it is getting boring.
So I think Microsoft should consider the beautiful Mac OSX. For you, Mac OSX might look boring and dull but for me it look so pretty and delicate. Ya should digg it up a bit.


I have a MacBook and find OS X's interface a lot less efficient than Windows. It's the little things that add up, like not being able to scroll through pictures easily in full screen mode and not having a 'real' maximise button.

GommeInc
16-09-2011, 12:43 PM
I do try on many vs available over deviantart such as http://fatezoom.deviantart.com/art/Ueis-251181664 which is similar to Mac OSX.
And I even made one similar to Mac OSX http://phd7.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d3eq70x
But ya must know, it is not fun to customized your "pure" Windows. It feel like you're stripping and rapping Windows.
And I also try this beautiful glass vs for Windows 7. But it is getting boring.
So I think Microsoft should consider the beautiful Mac OSX. For you, Mac OSX might look boring and dull but for me it look so pretty and delicate. Ya should digg it up a bit.

Your probably the only person I know who supports the Max OSX look :P I don't think Windows will change their popular GUI to copy a GUI which doesn't seem to be asked after, not by the majority at least.

Bodon
16-09-2011, 12:45 PM
I have a MacBook and find OS X's interface a lot less efficient than Windows. It's the little things that add up, like not being able to scroll through pictures easily in full screen mode and not having a 'real' maximise button.

For this part, I'm totally agree with ya.
Like I said, in term of functionality, Windows is sure way advance and better and of course more user friendly.

October
16-09-2011, 03:26 PM
omfg I hate how it doesn't actually shut down, it only hibernates.

xxMATTGxx
16-09-2011, 03:33 PM
omfg I hate how it doesn't actually shut down, it only hibernates.

It does shut down where your computer actually turns off.

October
16-09-2011, 03:43 PM
It does shut down where your computer actually turns off.Nope, go to Task Manager, then Performance. Check out where it says Up Time.
It's the same as it was with Windows 7, however long the computer has been active since it was last booted is its up time. Hibernating doesn't restart the counter, only a full shut down. :|
My counter: 1d:04h:55m:53s

tbh that explains why it's so fast.

xxMATTGxx
16-09-2011, 04:10 PM
Nope, go to Task Manager, then Performance. Check out where it says Up Time.
It's the same as it was with Windows 7, however long the computer has been active since it was last booted is its up time. Hibernating doesn't restart the counter, only a full shut down. :|
My counter: 1d:04h:55m:53s

tbh that explains why it's so fast.

You can go back to it shuts down fully and doesn't do that by the way. It is part of why Windows 8 boot up times are faster than previous Windows.



Microsoft has designed its Windows 8 shutdown to close user sessions but hibernate the kernel session. This reduces the amount of data that hibernation mode needs to write to disk, making it faster to read and resume. Microsoft has tested the feature across a variety of systems and claims it’s 30-70% faster on most systems they have tested. “It’s faster because resuming the hibernated system session is comparatively less work than doing a full system initialization,” explains Aul.

AgnesIO
16-09-2011, 10:16 PM
Stupidly forgot to save passwords, now I don't have them :S

October
17-09-2011, 07:41 AM
Hey, does SAM Broadcaster work for anyone else on Windows 8?

xxMATTGxx
17-09-2011, 08:20 AM
Hey, does SAM Broadcaster work for anyone else on Windows 8?

I haven't tried it, does it install and then no open? I would expect some compatibility issues with software in the dev preview anyway. Skype 5.5 works with Windows 8 if anyone had trouble with skype in the past!

October
17-09-2011, 08:34 AM
I haven't tried it, does it install and then no open? I would expect some compatibility issues with software in the dev preview anyway. Skype 5.5 works with Windows 8 if anyone had trouble with skype in the past!Installs, opens, crashes. I've even tried it in compatibility mode and no fix.

Not really sure what I'm supposed to use haha...

Casio
17-09-2011, 08:48 AM
There will be many problems with compatibility, as it is only a developers preview.

xxMATTGxx
17-09-2011, 08:54 AM
Installs, opens, crashes. I've even tried it in compatibility mode and no fix.

Not really sure what I'm supposed to use haha...

Sounds like skype before they updated it. But there will be problems in the preview :P

October
17-09-2011, 08:58 AM
:l I really regret not being tech savvy lol.
Can't say I didn't try to install it separately.

Jack!
17-09-2011, 09:25 AM
:l I really regret not being tech savvy lol.
Can't say I didn't try to install it separately.

Using windows 8 as the main OS on this PC, runs like a dream, I've got Chrome, GTA SA + SAMP, SAM, MSN, And Skype running fine?

AgnesIO
17-09-2011, 10:00 AM
There will be many problems with compatibility, as it is only a developers preview.

Including my Adobe stuff :L

Err some of it works (eg. Photoshop), but Dreamweaver won't work? :P

October
17-09-2011, 10:48 AM
Using windows 8 as the main OS on this PC, runs like a dream, I've got Chrome, GTA SA + SAMP, SAM, MSN, And Skype running fine?SAM as in Broadcaster? Isn't working for me.

Jack!
17-09-2011, 11:56 AM
SAM as in Broadcaster? Isn't working for me.

yup, installed running fine.

xxMATTGxx
17-09-2011, 04:03 PM
Microsoft begins distributing Windows 8 developer preview updates

According to WinRumors, Microsoft have been pushing out some updates for the dev preview like they have promised. Read more about it at: http://www.winrumors.com/microsoft-begins-distributing-windows-8-developer-preview-updates/

October
17-09-2011, 04:08 PM
If I torrent Windows 7 and install it on a separate partition would I be able to fix the mess I'm in lol?
And then remove Windows 8 from this partition? (Assuming I can delete a partition).

not really illegal, seeing as how my original OS was windows 7 anyways, i just had it store bought so no installation disc

Casio
17-09-2011, 08:33 PM
If you install Windows 7 on a seperate partition and then on the new Windows 7 download EasyBCD, this will allow you to remove Windows 8 from your boot menu.

October
18-09-2011, 08:53 AM
I was able to reinstall Windows 7, doing a clean install.

I re-downloaded Windows 8 and I made a new partition and I'm trying to get it to install on it but it keeps on telling me that Windows can't be installed on that disk. Help please.

http://i.imgur.com/6nk7m.jpg

Recursion
18-09-2011, 09:23 AM
Delete that partition and install it in the clean space it leaves.

Bodon
18-09-2011, 09:34 AM
How bout delete and combine the partition into 1?

October
18-09-2011, 09:44 AM
How bout delete and combine the partition into 1?

Because I don't want Windows 8 as my main OS.

October
18-09-2011, 10:18 AM
Didn't work
Delete that partition and install it in the clean space it leaves.

Bodon
18-09-2011, 11:06 AM
Because I don't want Windows 8 as my main OS.
I suggest ya to go for some googling.
I believe there should be some answers.

October
18-09-2011, 11:22 AM
I'm just gonna install it from virtualbox.

Bodon
18-09-2011, 11:25 AM
I'm just gonna install it from virtualbox.
That is suck but what can ya do since it is the only possible method right now.
When you use virtual box, its feel like you're emulating windows 8 in a small box. :P

Stephen
18-09-2011, 11:35 AM
Hense the name virtualbox

October
19-09-2011, 12:21 AM
VirtualBox sucks, back to helping me install on a separate partition.

Flisker
19-09-2011, 02:08 PM
I did have this problem and it ended up being the 500MB system reserve but if you have Windows 7/Vista/XP installed on the same hard drive then do not remove it.

October
21-09-2011, 11:11 AM
You could give this a shot, I've never tried it but it claims to work for Windows 8:

http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-install-windows-7vista-from-usb-drive-detailed-100-working-guide/

There's many tutorials for various USB installations of Windows on the net too, if this one should prove to fail.Does this install it to a separate partition btw?

Recursion
21-09-2011, 12:01 PM
Does this install it to a separate partition btw?

That link has nothing to do with it, it's just how to run the installer from a USB.

It'll install to a seperate partition no matter how you install it so long as you select the correct one...

October
21-09-2011, 12:57 PM
That link has nothing to do with it, it's just how to run the installer from a USB.

It'll install to a seperate partition no matter how you install it so long as you select the correct one...It *won't* install for me.
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsdeveloperpreviewgeneral/thread/95d1c435-5487-442a-b9de-c67631d99207

Recursion
21-09-2011, 04:09 PM
It *won't* install for me.
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsdeveloperpreviewgeneral/thread/95d1c435-5487-442a-b9de-c67631d99207

Surely if you can't fix this, you shouldn't be trying a Developer Preview? :P

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