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[David]

good man

[lemons]

bjHh0zHdgZT


Video ID

omg amazing

[David]

Video ID

dont load for me when they're in spoilers
my fault or the embedding?

[xxMATTGxx]

dont load for me when they're in spoilers
my fault or the embedding?

Which spoilers? The ones I've seen to load.

[David]

Which spoilers? The ones I've seen to load.

badspoilers
must be me then ** it

[Chris]

Thats a nice little addition. Good suggestion Dave :P

[Blinger]

Can we have it so you have to click to start these Vine videos? I presume it's the same as YouTube which (dont?) auto start..

[Tyler]

being able to put your own forum skin on. Im abit bored of the same habboxs ones.

[Nick]

being able to put your own forum skin on. Im abit bored of the same habboxs ones.

Would you not have to be admin for that..

I know when I was graphics manager there were ones being created but none were added.

[Chris]

It would be nice to have a new skin but the problem is that we have nobody that is capable of making one. About all we can do is skin recolours which gets a bit boring.

[Phil]

Can we have it so you have to click to start these Vine videos? I presume it's the same as YouTube which (dont?) auto start..

I don't think this is possible as on the Vine website, Vines automatically start as soon as they are visible on the page and if they are scrolled past, they will stop. It's not too much of an issue anyway because all Vines are automatically muted unless you decide to unmute them.

[David]

of course its possible, its just not necessary for reasons you said

banish the avatar limits, nick is shouting at me because its 10px too big. not cool.

[Nick]

of course its possible, its just not necessary for reasons you said

banish the avatar limits, nick is shouting at me because its 10px too big. not cool.

omg am not shouting at you. Just asked you to take it out or reduce it :(

[David]

i like to exaggerate
still valid idea though

[Phil]

I can safely say that I have no plans to reduce/remove avatar limits. If we did that it'd just be taking another thing from the perks of being VIP

[wixard]

how about we implement a weekly 'treat wixard like a queen' day

it can take place on tuesdays where everyone is required to make a thread complimenting me and repping me for my best posts of the week

[Blinger]

How about with the mobile skin it actually shows the different coloured user groups? I can't see who is a mod or who is a normal user. I.e. Phil's username is the same blue as mine.

[Phil]

How about with the mobile skin it actually shows the different coloured user groups? I can't see who is a mod or who is a normal user. I.e. Phil's username is the same blue as mine.

I'm not sure this can be done and even if it can, I don't think it's really that necessary. It's the same on Tapatalk as far as I'm aware, you can't tell the different user groups (haven't used Tapatalk in ages so I could be wrong!).

I think if something like this was implemented it would slow down the use of the site on mobile devices.

[GoldenMerc]

I'm not sure this can be done and even if it can, I don't think it's really that necessary. It's the same on Tapatalk as far as I'm aware, you can't tell the different user groups (haven't used Tapatalk in ages so I could be wrong!).

I think if something like this was implemented it would slow down the use of the site on mobile devices.

By using hex codes, would slow it down by 0.0.0.0..0.1...

Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk

[Blinger]

I'm not sure this can be done and even if it can, I don't think it's really that necessary. It's the same on Tapatalk as far as I'm aware, you can't tell the different user groups (haven't used Tapatalk in ages so I could be wrong!).
.

Sums up the attitude Habbox has had towards mobile users since the WAP skin. Anyone who used that would remember how **** it was.

[Phil]

By using hex codes, would slow it down by 0.0.0.0..0.1...

Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk


Sums up the attitude Habbox has had towards mobile users since the WAP skin. Anyone who used that would remember how **** it was.

I'm looking into this now

[Chippiewill]

I'm looking into this now
Adding colours would probably add about three lines to several thousand lines of HTML/CSS

[Mr-Trainor]

Yeah colours surely wouldn't make any notable speed difference, but what about the sparkles and other username effects?

[David]

Yeah colours surely wouldn't make any notable speed difference, but what about the sparkles and other username effects?

they can be disabled on the mobile skins if they do cause problems
doubt it though

[GoldenMerc]

Ngl Habbox has always said things are "impossible" or stupid reasons to not implementing things that other fansites have...

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[David]

Ngl Habbox has always said things are "impossible" or stupid reasons to not implementing things that other fansites have...

Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk

my personal favourite is "if you want it give us the money to pay for it"

[Kyle]

forum posting stats is late phil

[xxMATTGxx]

my personal favourite is "if you want it give us the money to pay for it"

Wouldn't that be for plugins that are premium rather than downloading them illegal? :P

[Phil]

Ngl Habbox has always said things are "impossible" or stupid reasons to not implementing things that other fansites have...

Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk

I'm still getting used to all the bits and pieces and at the time of posting I hadn't found a way to do this. I now know that it can be done, I just have to talk to the right people about it. Hopefully I can get this done soon enough but I have a very long To Do List right now :P


forum posting stats is late phil

Ngl I completely forgot about it until a mod asked how many posts he's on so far, it's posted now though :P

[GoldenMerc]

But saying its impossible is lying... Should just say I currently dont know how to do it... I mean you guys fires your only coder chippiewill he could of done it :P

Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk

[Phil]

But saying its impossible is lying... Should just say I currently dont know how to do it... I mean you guys fires your only coder chippiewill he could of done it :P

Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk

I just assumed if it was possible it would have been done already, I really dunno why it is tbh lol. Might brighten the whole thing up a bit :P

[GoldenMerc]

Tapatalks the way forward imo push people to that now its free :)

Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk

[Blinger]

Tapatalks the way forward imo push people to that now its free :)

Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
I don't like the idea of running a separate app. Using the browser is fine for me.

[GoldenMerc]

I don't like the idea of running a separate app. Using the browser is fine for me.

The app doesnt say Habbox or anything on it, its a universal one thats free and has tons more features well worth it

Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk

[Blinger]

The app doesnt say Habbox or anything on it, its a universal one thats free and has tons more features well worth it

Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
I used it back when I had an iPhone which is a while ago. I have no other forum that uses tapatalk. I'm content with a fairly basic site. All the other thing I wouldn't mind is notifications for quotes. But that isn't a major biggie.

[Phil]

I used it back when I had an iPhone which is a while ago. I have no other forum that uses tapatalk. I'm content with a fairly basic site. All the other thing I wouldn't mind is notifications for quotes. But that isn't a major biggie.

You get those on Tapatalk. I didn't realise that you didn't get Notifications on the Mobile Skin so I will look into that for you too

[Blinger]

You get those on Tapatalk. I didn't realise that you didn't get Notifications on the Mobile Skin so I will look into that for you too

We get visitor messages and private messages. Don't know about rep since I never get it.

[Phil]

We get visitor messages and private messages. Don't know about rep since I never get it.

Let me know if you got that lol

[Blinger]

Nope, no rep viewing. http://www.habboxforum.com/usercp.php - "We are sorry, this content is not supported via the mobile style. "

- - - Updated - - -

Edit: Nothing at all. No notification. Although imo rep isn't a HUGE deal if it doesn't show a notification, it doesn't add a lot of functionality.

[GoldenMerc]

Rep doesnt show up on tapatalk nor does visitor msgs

Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk

[Chippiewill]

Yeah colours surely wouldn't make any notable speed difference, but what about the sparkles and other username effects?

Sparkles are a single, very small image. The other effects are very light weight javascript. Neither of these would have any adverse effect on a phone built since 2008.

[GoldenMerc]

Sparkles are gif images arent they?

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[Blinger]

Sparkles are gif images arent they?

Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk
http://www.habboxforum.com/images/sparkles/habboxgod.gif
http://www.habboxforum.com/images/sparkles/dodgerblue.gif
http://www.habboxforum.com//images/sparkles/pink.gif
http://www.habboxforum.com//images/sparkles/orange.gif

etc

[GoldenMerc]

Yeh that'll put 0.0.01 on server load and a extremely tiny bit more load for mobile. Small job for chippie

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[Mr-Trainor]

Oh yeah, I forgot they were images (A).

[Blinger]

Can you add somewhere on the mobile skin to directly PM a user? I may have missed it but I don't see a way without going to messages.
I.e. top right hand side, opposite where it says Blinger and the post date. Or on the profile page somewhere.

Sah many changes to mobile skin is needed!

Phil; in case you don't see it.

[Phil]

After looking into all your queries Blinger;. We don't run the Mobile Skin.

[Blinger]

After looking into all your queries Blinger;. We don't run the Mobile Skin.

What? How do you not "run the skin"? Is it hosted on your server? I'd say it is, just edit the files.

[xxMATTGxx]

What? How do you not "run the skin"? Is it hosted on your server? I'd say it is, just edit the files.

We aren't making any changes to the default mobile skin - Not at this moment in time anyway. If you require specific features then there is various ways around it. Nearly all smartphones are able to view the full size themes without a problem and we recommend the Tapatalk app for anyone who wants another method.

[Blinger]

We aren't making any changes to the default mobile skin - Not at this moment in time anyway.
Are they considered for the near future? I know habbox isn't the best with timing stuff, usually a request takes 6+ months imo.

Anyway from importance of my suggestions it'd be this:

Coloured usernames - so you can ACTUALLY see who staff are. Currently everyone's a normal user. Would take someone like that chippie guy 10 minutes for this and the next and I'm sure recursion could do it in that time too.
Private message link on profile under the contact section which is blank?? Its already there pretty much, it'd be 3 lines of code, tops.
Notifications - quoted posts or mentions.

The problem with the normal themes is that the text is minuscule so you need to zoom in, with the mobile it's perfect straight up.

[Blinger]

Private message link on profile under the contact section which is blank?? Its already there pretty much, it'd be 3 lines of code, tops.


Okay should work.
Find this part

<li>
<span class="name">{vb:rawphrase this_page}</span>
<span class="value"><a href="{vb:raw prepared.profileurl}">{vb:raw prepared.profileurl}</a></span>
</li>

and add this after


<li>
<span class="name">{vb:rawphrase send_private_message}</span>
<span class="value"><a href="private.php?{vb:raw session.sessionurl}do=newpm&amp;u={vb:raw prepared.userid}">{vb:rawphrase send_private_message}</a></span>
</li>

[xxMATTGxx]

Okay should work.
Find this part

<li>
<span class="name">{vb:rawphrase this_page}</span>
<span class="value"><a href="{vb:raw prepared.profileurl}">{vb:raw prepared.profileurl}</a></span>
</li>

and add this after


<li>
<span class="name">{vb:rawphrase send_private_message}</span>
<span class="value"><a href="private.php?{vb:raw session.sessionurl}do=newpm&u={vb:raw prepared.userid}">{vb:rawphrase send_private_message}</a></span>
</li>

Should be working now if you want to check it for me.

[Blinger]

Should be working now if you want to check it for me.
Legend, thank you! That was probably the easiest of the lot tbh, I'm sure a better coder could add the coloured usernames, I can't test it since I have no VB.

[xxMATTGxx]

Legend, thank you! That was probably the easiest of the lot tbh, I'm sure a better coder could add the coloured usernames, I can't test it since I have no VB.

I've been messing around and I believe I have coloured usernames working to some extent if you want to take a look.

Edit: Just noticed the usernames are no longer linked to their profile. Standby

[Blinger]

Yeah, the colours work you've just buggered links up. So now I/you can't click on a username who's posted.

Thanks for doing this stuff. If you need help you can ask.

[xxMATTGxx]

Yeah, the colours work you've just buggered links up. So now I/you can't click on a username who's posted.

Thanks for doing this stuff. If you need help you can ask.

Yeah I've just noticed that.

[xxMATTGxx]

Yeah my mind has gone blank on the whole hyperlinking usernames - I'll leave the coloured names in there for the time being. Alternatively you can click the users avatars to get to the profile of that person.

[Rachel]

I thought about having something like a chat thing at the bottom of the forum like Habbohut. Shows you who is online and it is to talk to people on it private.

Or maybe have a shoutbox as a trial ?

[Blinger]

I thought about having something like a chat thing at the bottom of the forum like Habbohut. Shows you who is online and it is to talk to people on it private.

Or maybe have a shoutbox as a trial ?
I swear we used to have a shoutbox, maybe it was just for VIP or whatever it is called.. but this was back in the day

[Rachel]

I swear we used to have a shoutbox, maybe it was just for VIP or whatever it is called.. but this was back in the day
Maybe so but would be nice

[Sian]

i never know about a shoutbox. I usually find that if a forum doesn't have great activity, it just takes away from the activity, or it just doesn't get used.

[Nick]

Yeah, I was told there was a shoutbox although it was taken away because it was decreasing posting.

[Chris]

There was a shoutbox a couple of years back. It didn't work out so we got rid of it. :P

[Phil]

As people have already said, a shout box isn't a great idea because it lowers the posting rate on the forum. Another reason why I am against having a shoutbox is because it would be very difficult to Moderate and as a Mod can't be sitting there watching it 24/7, moderating would also be very inconsistent.

[Rachel]

I suppose it would have a negative side of this.

[e5]

Dislike shout out, probably be overused and you'd barely see what anyone writes, that and as people have said, takes people away from posting

[Kyle]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=650218

CHOOSE WHAT INFO TO DISPLAY IN POSTBIT
4 yrs overdue

[Phil]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=650218

CHOOSE WHAT INFO TO DISPLAY IN POSTBIT
4 yrs overdue

Hmm, I'll have a look around for a plugin or something later on this tonight or tomorrow.

[Chippiewill]

Hmm, I'll have a look around for a plugin or something later on this tonight or tomorrow.

iirc you can do it with custom settings fields like with the snow and fixed vs fluid width.

[Phil]

iirc you can do it with custom settings fields like with the snow and fixed vs fluid width.

Well I'm working this evening and I will look at it as soon as I can, hopefully tonight but it's not probable. Still getting used to the panel and such so I'll have a play around.

[Rachel]

I think we should have another referral competition which can help getting new users to Habbox :)

[Phil]

At the moment, if you sign someone up I believe you get 50 Tokens. If you've been keeping up with feedback, you've probably seen some talk about an "Achievements" system. When this comes to light there'll be an achievement for referring people to the forum.

[-Nick]

Phil; Can there be some awards for the tokens scheme?

[Phil]

Phil; Can there be some awards for the tokens scheme?

You mean like gaining certain amount of Tokens? We already have rewards in the shop such as VIP and Credits you can buy with your tokens.

[-Nick]

You mean like gaining certain amount of Tokens? We already have rewards in the shop such as VIP and Credits you can buy with your tokens.

No like

1,000 tokens = award
5,000 tokens = award
10,000 tokens = award
You spend tokens to get different badges
?:)


Sent From phone :)! xo

P.S sorry for spag.. The keys are small;(

[Phil]

I'm not sure about this for awards. A lot of people already have like 20 Tokens. Perhaps we can incorporate this into the Achievement system if that happens.

[Chris]

No like

1,000 tokens = award
5,000 tokens = award
10,000 tokens = award
You spend tokens to get different badges
?:)


Sent From phone :)! xo

P.S sorry for spag.. The keys are small;(

We could probably include that in the achievements system which is currently being worked on. :)

[David]

regular f1 prediction (and other category based) comps

[Phil]

regular f1 prediction (and other category based) comps

Something I'm actually trying to do at the moment is get more category based comps produced from the Department. I made it a target this month for everyone to get one out. Unfortunately we've only had one and another one is going out shortly.

This is definitely something I hope to improve on in the next while. Perhaps one of the General Moderators can whip something up for this?
Jordan; Sianness;

[David]

is world cup stuff still gonna happen?
Phil; Samanfa; xxMATTGxx;

[Phil]

is world cup stuff still gonna happen?
Phil; Samanfa; xxMATTGxx;

When you say "Stuff"?

[David]

anything at all
vip/predictions/other

[Samantha]

is world cup stuff still gonna happen?
Phil; Samanfa; xxMATTGxx;

Yep :D.

[Phil]

anything at all
vip/predictions/other

I'm can't say what other departments are planning as I'm not sure what's just being talked about and what's concrete but I can confirm that the betting competition will be happening.

I'm not sure what to do about VIP yet. Will be releasing VIP for that or something else, don't think I'll do both because they'll be very close to each other and people won't buy two so close but we shall see!

[Nick]

Hey all,

We are still welcoming any ideas for the forum!

[scottish]

Close Debates

They're not popular, when one does come out it's either completely stupid or the same generic debate that's been done 300 times in the past 10 year (abortion, death penalty as a perfect example of the current 2)

The department itself isn't needed as it's useless and the debates spewed out by Dan are absolutely crap. The member debates could easily be posted within Discuss Anything instead.

For example just now we have the last post being 12 days ago (posted in a member debate), and the last post on official debates being between 20-27 days ago.

Fix the shop on non habbo dark skin

It's ugly and not been modified for the black laoyout

Fix the shop

The only time gold bars are added is if there's a thread about it, then they'll add some for a few minutes then remove them again, either do it periodically (say on the first day of every month) and announce it so everyone has the same chance, or remove gold bars from the shop if you're never going to stock them.

Sell VIP

Do Sulake even care if you sell VIP now? I'm pretty sure they haven't for years, added to that you used to only do it for Christmas (as money was going to charity) and now you seem to do it every holiday event (easter, summer, h'ween, etc), so I'm sure if they were against it you'd already be breaking their rules by doing that, so why not just fully go back to selling it?

Fix your calendar

If you go to the calendar (http://www.habboxforum.com/calendar.php) and click for example the 21st, 2 events booked yet it directs you to the forum homepage. So either it's set to 2 by default so it doesn't look dead or there's something wrong with your script.

Make posting more 'attractive'

You have the Weekly Posting Stats (do you? it's not been posted since the 6th of October) which is meant to encourage people to post, but it doesn't. No-ones going to intentionally post 100 times so they can get VIP for the next week, and repeat it constantly. You need to make people want to post.

For example, if I post a bunch of threads the posts basically doubled.

Take the last weekly stats (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=814971) for example: 0 over 100 posts, 1145 total posts, 166 posters

Take a week (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=813620&highlight=weekly) I posted a few threads: 2 over 100 posts, 2816 total posts, 191 posters
Another week (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=813995&highlight=weekly) I posted a few threads: 2 over 100 posts, 2160 total posts, 156 posters

If you want people to post, then you actively need to make threads that people will want to post in, otherwise they'll look at the new posts/activity stream, see nothing and do nothing. They're not going to say oh the forums dead let's liven it up, they'll just look on another forum or do something else.

Encourage the mod team to posts, hell encourage every department to actively post more. Encourage them to actively make threads that'll promote discussion rather than replying to some thread with nothing useful.

Clean up the forum

Take some time, go through the forums and clean it up.

Some examples:
- Sub forums that aren't active - merged with the parent forum in most cases just add a prefix or something.
- Old stickied threads - re-write them so it's appropriate now, or just remove them.

I'm sick of seeing stickied threads by someone who left 8 years ago tbh.

And the likes of temporary stickied threads becoming stuck for 3 years.

In my opinion, all stickied threads should be posted by a 'high' ranking member of staff (be it forum manager, smods, or agms)

Some examples of these could be;

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=720719 - A stickied thread that should have been temp.
http://www.habboxforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=432 - A subforum that hasn't been posted in for over a year and 6 months



That's all I can be bothered to think about just now

[David]

fix the rep limit so i can rep him

[Empired]

Particularly agree with scott's point about making posting more attractive. It should be part of the job description for moderators. You're the forum department, you specifically should be particularly responsible for posting threads to encourage people to post.

Also I'm looking at the HabboQuests forum and they have an activity stream that shows the latest 3 posts at the top of the page that updates automatically. I'd like something like that please.
And they have the radio on both their main site and the forum. Would remind people to listen to the radio because I never use habbox.com or habboxlive.com unless @Jssy (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=59399); tells me she is DJing. Actually I can see a downside to that because then I'd have to mute it all the time because I don't like many DJ's shows.

[Nick]

Particularly agree with scott's point about making posting more attractive. It should be part of the job description for moderators. You're the forum department, you specifically should be particularly responsible for posting threads to encourage people to post.

Also I'm looking at the HabboQuests forum and they have an activity stream that shows the latest 3 posts at the top of the page that updates automatically. I'd like something like that please.
And they have the radio on both their main site and the forum. Would remind people to listen to the radio because I never use habbox.com or habboxlive.com unless @Jssy (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=59399); tells me she is DJing. Actually I can see a downside to that because then I'd have to mute it all the time because I don't like many DJ's shows.

From what I can remember there was a rule in the mod department where you had to make what, 40 posts a week but I can't see that happening due to the forum having less activity these days but I will look into getting something on the lines of that back in the department.

There actually used to be a radio (Or still is??) on the forum, it might be still on site skin 2010, down the bottom of the forum and it would bring up a little pop up box and you could listen to habboxlive that way. Another reason due to that is because their forum is on their main site so its probably been coded entirely by someone.


fix the rep limit so i can rep him

Not sure about lifting the limit but ill have a discussion about it :)

[scottish]

There used to be a shoutcast plugin in the forum footer (on the main page) which you could open the radio in a popup.

I'd completely disagree with having it automatically load, or having it in the header etc.


Also curious where 'active members' comes from, how does vbulletin calculate that.

It's currently Active Members 1,152 which I only see about 170 people post per weekly posting stats so maybe 500 max I can't see over 1.1k being active

Also, where's posting stats been for past few weeks?

[Nick]

There used to be a shoutcast plugin in the forum footer (on the main page) which you could open the radio in a popup.

I'd completely disagree with having it automatically load, or having it in the header etc.


Also curious where 'active members' comes from, how does vbulletin calculate that.

It's currently Active Members 1,152 which I only see about 170 people post per weekly posting stats so maybe 500 max I can't see over 1.1k being active

Also, where's posting stats been for past few weeks?

I assume VB calculates that otherwise I have no clue..

I was away for 1 week so Phil was meant to post them but he never did and the next week we both completely forgot about it, was still in holiday mode :( They will be posted this week... like now. The reward will remain the same for this week although I will aim for it to be changed for the upcoming weeks.

[-Nick]

Can we get like a new department - sub to the moderation department to start new topics and make it more interactive and things to talk about?

[scottish]

We already have that, 'forum member'

[Chippiewill]

http://www.habboxforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=432 - A subforum that hasn't been posted in for over a year and 6 months

That's because you can't post directly into it, it's mostly there so the threads don't get lost.

[Empired]

From what I can remember there was a rule in the mod department where you had to make what, 40 posts a week but I can't see that happening due to the forum having less activity these days but I will look into getting something on the lines of that back in the department.
Good idea but making 40 posts a week is actually really easy if you have to. I know of someone on here (naming no names!) who can post 40ish times a week but never actually promotes discussion. Posting 'Congratzz' or 'Thanks for your time' in every Congratulations & Thank Yous thread does nothing except promote spam and encourage brainless comments to be posted on the forum.
Perhaps make mods post 40 times a week plus make two new threads in any public forum they like?

And tbh it shouldn't just be mods; managers should also be made to post a bit more too. Basically the higher rank you are, the more you should be expected to post. When I've been staff, Habbox has always been far too nice when giving targets to post more. You always get told 'you're such a wonderful member of staff but I'd love to see you post a bit more!! :) :)' and that's just not good enough. Posting and making threads, especially for Senior+, should be non-optional.

Perhaps that seems a little harsh but what keeps Habbox going is the community. Sure, events help. Maybe some fun competitions can raise awareness for our fansite. But at the end of the day the sense of community is what we excel at.

[Nick]

Good idea but making 40 posts a week is actually really easy if you have to. I know of someone on here (naming no names!) who can post 40ish times a week but never actually promotes discussion. Posting 'Congratzz' or 'Thanks for your time' in every Congratulations & Thank Yous thread does nothing except promote spam and encourage brainless comments to be posted on the forum.
Perhaps make mods post 40 times a week plus make two new threads in any public forum they like?

And tbh it shouldn't just be mods; managers should also be made to post a bit more too. Basically the higher rank you are, the more you should be expected to post. When I've been staff, Habbox has always been far too nice when giving targets to post more. You always get told 'you're such a wonderful member of staff but I'd love to see you post a bit more!! :) :)' and that's just not good enough. Posting and making threads, especially for Senior+, should be non-optional.

Perhaps that seems a little harsh but what keeps Habbox going is the community. Sure, events help. Maybe some fun competitions can raise awareness for our fansite. But at the end of the day the sense of community is what we excel at.

Funny enough I don't think congrats forum increases post count anymore for that reason, not sure, someone might have turned it of. I actually suggested to make x amount of posts and x amount of threads a week which is seem is reasonable but its still an idea at the moment.

I do agree, even I need to post more. Generally the posting side of targets etc aren't really counted as if you don't complete them then you will be disciplined but as I said to Phil if we don't put our foot down on people most times we ain't gunna get anywhere.

I actually am in the process of doing another big event on the forum but I would rather to take my time and have everything ready then post it so it goes all smoothly. Also there are other big events coming up so I don't think this year would be suitable.

[Empired]

Funny enough I don't think congrats forum increases post count anymore for that reason, not sure, someone might have turned it of. I actually suggested to make x amount of posts and x amount of threads a week which is seem is reasonable but its still an idea at the moment.

I do agree, even I need to post more. Generally the posting side of targets etc aren't really counted as if you don't complete them then you will be disciplined but as I said to Phil if we don't put our foot down on people most times we ain't gunna get anywhere.

I actually am in the process of doing another big event on the forum but I would rather to take my time and have everything ready then post it so it goes all smoothly. Also there are other big events coming up so I don't think this year would be suitable.
I totally agree with you.

All I can say is I hope this isn't going to be one of those many occasions where someone decides to appease the forum members by agreeing with everything they say but then coming up with excuse after excuse for why it can't be done now. If you can't do it, find someone else who can. Or in every spare 15 minutes you have, work on your ideas a little further, save them and then come back to them in the next spare 15 minutes.

If it waits until the New Year it will never. get. done.

[Nick]

I totally agree with you.

All I can say is I hope this isn't going to be one of those many occasions where someone decides to appease the forum members by agreeing with everything they say but then coming up with excuse after excuse for why it can't be done now. If you can't do it, find someone else who can. Or in every spare 15 minutes you have, work on your ideas a little further, save them and then come back to them in the next spare 15 minutes.

If it waits until the New Year it will never. get. done.

Well upcoming there are big events such as now, Habboxween. We have November which Halloween goes into for the slightest bit. I don't want to post it in November because it wont be ready. Christmas will come by, I will most likely be away/limited activity plus there is the Christmas bonanza thingy. In January I know sho has said not to do anything because she is planning something.

It will come :)

[Jssy]

I don't think putting the radio on the forum would be helpful though, I've noticed our listeners getting worse but a radio on forum would annoy people.

[Empired]

Well upcoming there are big events such as now, Habboxween. We have November which Halloween goes into for the slightest bit. I don't want to post it in November because it wont be ready. Christmas will come by, I will most likely be away/limited activity plus there is the Christmas bonanza thingy. In January I know sho has said not to do anything because she is planning something.

It will come :)
V7 is coming to mind here. "It'll be here, it'll be here!!!!"

Why won't you be ready to post in November? The Christmas event doesn't start until mid December so you have a little over a month to sort it out between Halloween and Christmas. Can you seriously not write up a new set of rules in five weeks? Is that some kind of joke?
I understand you might want to make this a big thing but five weeks??

Edit: Jssy; yh I was just mentioning it because HabboQuests forum is extremely popular already and they've done it. I don't think I'd rly like the radio to be on our forum though as I'd just mute it all the time anyway.

[Jssy]

Maybe if it did happen they could give an option to turn it on/off in your usercp

[Empired]

Nah cos people would complain unless it was automatically off and you had to turn it on. And then you may as well just go over to habboxlive.com anyway

[Nick]

V7 is coming to mind here. "It'll be here, it'll be here!!!!"

Why won't you be ready to post in November? The Christmas event doesn't start until mid December so you have a little over a month to sort it out between Halloween and Christmas. Can you seriously not write up a new set of rules in five weeks? Is that some kind of joke?
I understand you might want to make this a big thing but five weeks??

Edit: Jssy; yh I was just mentioning it because HabboQuests forum is extremely popular already and they've done it. I don't think I'd rly like the radio to be on our forum though as I'd just mute it all the time anyway.

I don't work on v7 so I can't help ya there. Of course I am not saying that every project I work on it completed to a high standard because i would be kidding myself.

I am moving around mid / end of November so if I really wanted to I could work on this get it perfect and post it in a few weeks time but really, I don't want to rush it. I think Phil is actually dreading another big event because yes they are a pain to plan and thats another reason why i wasn't planning on doing it anytime soon was to really think about tasks and how the event will work and incorporate the public into the event etc. As I was saying that I was moving, I generally have no clue if my internet will be up even before Christmas. I don't think Phil wants to do this himself but he does have support from General Management and the moderation team although I think he would agree with me and rather get things right rather than smash it out in 5 weeks then post it.

[Phil]

Close Debates

They're not popular, when one does come out it's either completely stupid or the same generic debate that's been done 300 times in the past 10 year (abortion, death penalty as a perfect example of the current 2)

The department itself isn't needed as it's useless and the debates spewed out by Dan are absolutely crap. The member debates could easily be posted within Discuss Anything instead.

For example just now we have the last post being 12 days ago (posted in a member debate), and the last post on official debates being between 20-27 days ago.

Fix the shop on non habbo dark skin

It's ugly and not been modified for the black laoyout

Fix the shop

The only time gold bars are added is if there's a thread about it, then they'll add some for a few minutes then remove them again, either do it periodically (say on the first day of every month) and announce it so everyone has the same chance, or remove gold bars from the shop if you're never going to stock them.

Sell VIP

Do Sulake even care if you sell VIP now? I'm pretty sure they haven't for years, added to that you used to only do it for Christmas (as money was going to charity) and now you seem to do it every holiday event (easter, summer, h'ween, etc), so I'm sure if they were against it you'd already be breaking their rules by doing that, so why not just fully go back to selling it?

Fix your calendar

If you go to the calendar (http://www.habboxforum.com/calendar.php) and click for example the 21st, 2 events booked yet it directs you to the forum homepage. So either it's set to 2 by default so it doesn't look dead or there's something wrong with your script.

Make posting more 'attractive'

You have the Weekly Posting Stats (do you? it's not been posted since the 6th of October) which is meant to encourage people to post, but it doesn't. No-ones going to intentionally post 100 times so they can get VIP for the next week, and repeat it constantly. You need to make people want to post.

For example, if I post a bunch of threads the posts basically doubled.

Take the last weekly stats (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=814971) for example: 0 over 100 posts, 1145 total posts, 166 posters

Take a week (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=813620&highlight=weekly) I posted a few threads: 2 over 100 posts, 2816 total posts, 191 posters
Another week (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=813995&highlight=weekly) I posted a few threads: 2 over 100 posts, 2160 total posts, 156 posters

If you want people to post, then you actively need to make threads that people will want to post in, otherwise they'll look at the new posts/activity stream, see nothing and do nothing. They're not going to say oh the forums dead let's liven it up, they'll just look on another forum or do something else.

Encourage the mod team to posts, hell encourage every department to actively post more. Encourage them to actively make threads that'll promote discussion rather than replying to some thread with nothing useful.

Clean up the forum

Take some time, go through the forums and clean it up.

Some examples:
- Sub forums that aren't active - merged with the parent forum in most cases just add a prefix or something.
- Old stickied threads - re-write them so it's appropriate now, or just remove them.

I'm sick of seeing stickied threads by someone who left 8 years ago tbh.

And the likes of temporary stickied threads becoming stuck for 3 years.

In my opinion, all stickied threads should be posted by a 'high' ranking member of staff (be it forum manager, smods, or agms)

Some examples of these could be;

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=720719 - A stickied thread that should have been temp.
http://www.habboxforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=432 - A subforum that hasn't been posted in for over a year and 6 months



That's all I can be bothered to think about just now

Agreed that something needs to be done about the Debates but I'm not exactly sure what that would be. I'm not sure about scrapping it all together but there should be some way (just like posting in general) to make it a bit more attractive. Possibly make Debates shorter and more frequent like I'm sure they were before.

Dunno what's wrong eith shop on the skin you're on about but I'll have a gawk sometime today. It's on my long to do list for the day. In terms of the stock, I'll send GM a PM in relation to this and now you've added a second thing to my to do list.

Not sure on the problem with the calendar, will check that too.

This afternoon Nick and I were talking about how we can change the prizes for the 100 posts per week or whatever. We haven't come up with anything just yet but hopefully we will have something new for you all next week or the week after. There's a few more ideas that I do have but I'm not sure about them yet. Starting TODAY I'm actually going to be starting up staff posting again so all of the Manager can see how much their staff have been posting each week. I can only speak for my own dept. but I will be encouraging my team to post and create more threads because of this (I already do this but still).

Forum does need a serious clean, it's also been put on my list but it probably won't be done today. hopefully I can give that a good lash this week.


Particularly agree with scott's point about making posting more attractive. It should be part of the job description for moderators. You're the forum department, you specifically should be particularly responsible for posting threads to encourage people to post.

Also I'm looking at the HabboQuests forum and they have an activity stream that shows the latest 3 posts at the top of the page that updates automatically. I'd like something like that please.
And they have the radio on both their main site and the forum. Would remind people to listen to the radio because I never use habbox.com or habboxlive.com unless @Jssy (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=59399); tells me she is DJing. Actually I can see a downside to that because then I'd have to mute it all the time because I don't like many DJ's shows.

Not sure what you mean by the HabboQuests thing? Is it like the widget we have on habbox.com only it updates automatically? Not sure if it's still there but as Nick said you used to be able to to pen a pop up at the bottom of the forum. We definitely won't be updating it so it plays automatically.

David; I'll see what can be done

[David]

if you want the radio without the main site use chippiewills chrome plugin (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/habbox-live-radio-player/hcdkgehfhphmeboifigdmichgdmmcmli?hl=en-GB)
dont bug those of us who don't care with a radio on the forum

[Inseriousity.]

They can't do it in November cos I'm already planning something. I don't think "big events" wise, people have any reason to complain. In fact, maybe there's big event overload at the moment! I think when the Jungle was a make-it-up-as-it-goes-along type of affair, it'd be best if time was spent thoroughly planning it.

As for the mods post target, I agree that threads do need to be created but essentially, a forum isn't about forcing people to post. Personally, I thought the forum was doing quite well until the downtime, there seemed to be more people about at any rate even if that wasn't translating into posts. I think, as well as the 100 posts thing, there could be a QI Award too. A 'Quite Interesting' award for those users that have posted interesting threads that have generated discussion, chosen by the moderation team in a similar fashion to how Member of the Month works. It could be decided monthly with member of the month or weekly with the weekly statistics.

[Phil]

Empired; The event Nick is referring to will be taking place but as Nick said probably not this year. Especially wqith him moving, then Christmas and then the event that Shoned has planned. This event is going to be big-scale and it these things just can't happen over night. Take my jungle event for example, it was good on paper but not enough planning went into it and in some ways, it was a flop! Things need to be planned efficiently.

[Empired]

I don't work on v7 so I can't help ya there. Of course I am not saying that every project I work on it completed to a high standard because i would be kidding myself.

I am moving around mid / end of November so if I really wanted to I could work on this get it perfect and post it in a few weeks time but really, I don't want to rush it. I think Phil is actually dreading another big event because yes they are a pain to plan and thats another reason why i wasn't planning on doing it anytime soon was to really think about tasks and how the event will work and incorporate the public into the event etc. As I was saying that I was moving, I generally have no clue if my internet will be up even before Christmas. I don't think Phil wants to do this himself but he does have support from General Management and the moderation team although I think he would agree with me and rather get things right rather than smash it out in 5 weeks then post it.
I wasn't telling you to do v7, I was using it as an example of what appears to be happening with making people post more.

If I were General Management I would want to be making the following people make more threads and posts:

The entire Forum department (including trialists)
Senior/Head staff in any department
(Assistant) Managers of any department (yes, both community- and content-based)
General Management obviously


So if that were the case then surely it wouldn't be up to you and Phil, Nick? I think it should be up to Chris and Sho to come up with the rules and then up to the Managers of each department to make sure they're kept.
Also, are you referring to this as a 'big project'? Are you sure? It's literally just writing a thread about how your staff need to post more and perhaps a quick guideline on what you would consider to promote discussion and what would not promote discussion. I don't think there needs to be a bit on incentives. The incentive should be 'do this or get fired'.

If it's that much of a challenge for whoever is writing it I would volunteer to write it myself but I don't think you'd like that. (Using 'you' as a general term here Nick, not you personally.)

[Jssy]

On the events side of things I think they're really good. I only started using Habbox again in Summer and there's been so much to get involved with, a few years ago I got bored, so staff are definitely doing what they can to bring events/competitions to the community, at the moment I find there is never nothing to do. I really enjoyed Shipwrecked with Inseriousity; too when I returned, that was a great forum event.

[Empired]

Phil; thanks for the clarification.

The point about the radio wasn't really a suggestion and tbh I'm not entirely sure why I mentioned it in the first place. I was referring to this in regards to the activity stream (outlined red):
http://i.imgur.com/YJQX6t4.png

Oh and I like Mike's idea of the QI award and would really like to see that implemented.

[scottish]

That's because you can't post directly into it, it's mostly there so the threads don't get lost.

As in replies.

[Jssy]

@Phil (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=67954); thanks for the clarification.

The point about the radio wasn't really a suggestion and tbh I'm not entirely sure why I mentioned it in the first place. I was referring to this in regards to the activity stream (outlined red):
http://i.imgur.com/YJQX6t4.png

Oh and I like Mike's idea of the QI award and would really like to see that implemented.

We already kind of have that on the main Habbox site?

[Chris]

We have that feature at the top of Habbox.com. Unless there is a plugin for the forum that does something like that, it wont be coming to the forum.

[Inseriousity.]

I have seen a similar thing at the bottom of HFFM before but I've never personally liked it.

Looks like charlie's got her wires crossed about Nick's 'big project.' He's talking about the event, not getting moderators to post Charlie :P

[Chippiewill]

As in replies.

There isn't much to be gained from posting in a two year old tutorial thread.

[Empired]

I have seen a similar thing at the bottom of HFFM before but I've never personally liked it.

Looks like charlie's got her wires crossed about Nick's 'big project.' He's talking about the event, not getting moderators to post Charlie :P
But I never even mentioned the big events so I'm not sure why nick is talking about them?? I think originally he was using them as an excuse for why he can't post a thread about posting more but I can't be sure.

[David]

We have that feature at the top of Habbox.com. Unless there is a plugin for the forum that does something like that, it wont be coming to the forum.

there's this (http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=235841) but habbox doesn't need it, already have new posts/activity page.
there's also a block in vb's built in sidebar but it's not active, would just annoy people and again, don't need it.

[Alkaz]

The forum does definitely need a spruce up. I personally think that all stickied thread / tutorials / rules should either be announcements at the top of the forum or created by Forum God. It just adds a bit of continuity over the entire forum and you also don't get the problem of it looking like random users have posted threads about rules once a member of staff has left. For instance, one of the posts linked to previously was posted by Scott/Dinasaw and Leah made a post in it. It looks like two members just posted in the forum and their thread got stuck.

As for debates, I don't think there is a great need for a debates leader either. Or if you do wan't to keep the role, why not make it a 30/31 day tenure and have it swapped around all the time. That way people will post their own debates about different topics, that way things may not become so stale, provoke some excitement around the forum and get people posting. You can say that people can do this anyway, but people can win prizes from the official debates. It would be nice to see different debates from silly things like 'Has Kim Kardashian had plastic surgery?' or 'Should the monarchy be dissolved?'... just as examples.

[Phil]

Has anyone anything else they would like to express? I've gotten a good start on everything that was brought up today :)

[Samantha]

I think it would be worth giving members warning if someone's going to take the sites offline as then they know not to do anything too important for it to go down half way through. I understand it's not always possible, but it could be ideal.

[Alkaz]

I think it would be worth giving members warning if someone's going to take the sites offline as then they know not to do anything too important for it to go down half way through. I understand it's not always possible, but it could be ideal.
This, even if it was 2 minutes before hand like Habbo used to do, it would be nice if you could do that when the sites are going down.

[Phil]

I think it would be worth giving members warning if someone's going to take the sites offline as then they know not to do anything too important for it to go down half way through. I understand it's not always possible, but it could be ideal.

I know about it just ask much as you do. It would be nice but as you said, it's not always possible.

[xxMATTGxx]

I think it would be worth giving members warning if someone's going to take the sites offline as then they know not to do anything too important for it to go down half way through. I understand it's not always possible, but it could be ideal.


This, even if it was 2 minutes before hand like Habbo used to do, it would be nice if you could do that when the sites are going down.


I know about it just ask much as you do. It would be nice but as you said, it's not always possible.

Unfortunately due to our work commitments we some times have to do the maintenance during the day/evening. Due to the recent problems we have been having we are trying to iron out these issues by doing the maintenance work during these times rather than delay it further.

We'll take note for any other maintenance that isn't classed as essential.

[lawrawrrr]

Unfortunately due to our work commitments we some times have to do the maintenance during the day/evening. Due to the recent problems we have been having we are trying to iron out these issues by doing the maintenance work during these times rather than delay it further.

We'll take note for any other maintenance that isn't classed as essential.
I don't think that Sam was saying don't do it in peak times but rather post just a bit before saying that it will be going down at X o'clock or in 10m etc otherwise people can lose threads and things if they're working on them!

[Alkaz]

Unfortunately due to our work commitments we some times have to do the maintenance during the day/evening. Due to the recent problems we have been having we are trying to iron out these issues by doing the maintenance work during these times rather than delay it further.

We'll take note for any other maintenance that isn't classed as essential.
I don't think anyone really minds if the sites are being taken down at peak times so long as the work is being carried out, its just nice to have that advance warning to save any work/posts etc (where the chance can be given).

It's nice to see this thread busy! :)

[xxMATTGxx]

I don't think that Sam was saying don't do it in peak times but rather post just a bit before saying that it will be going down at X o'clock or in 10m etc otherwise people can lose threads and things if they're working on them!

Understandable but doing a notice wouldn't always 100% work as if you were writing a thread you would still need to refresh the forum to see a new notice about any sort of maintenance work. But noted for next time.

[lawrawrrr]

Understandable but doing a notice wouldn't always 100% work as if you were writing a thread you would still need to refresh the forum to see a new notice about any sort of maintenance work. But noted for next time.
True but everyone knows we all refresh new posts every 10minutes at the longest anyway ;) heheh. Thanks Matt :)

[-Nick]

There is always twitter updates and Habbox Down page, although I think the Habbox Down page should have the radio player on? xxMATTGxx; lawrawrrr;

[lawrawrrr]

Surely if the sites are down the radio can't be streamed??? IDK anything about that though as I know nothing about the backend :P

[Alkaz]

There is always twitter updates and Habbox Down page, although I think the Habbox Down page should have the radio player on? @xxMATTGxx (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=1020); @lawrawrrr (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=61966);
We know that, all Sam meant was that it would be nice to get some kind of a warning if it is possible. For instance the other day I spent ages editing a page on the wiki and ended up losing it. That's all she meant, if there was a warning, 5-10 minutes before hand it could prevent the lose of some info like that but we all understand it's not always possible to get the message to people or people may not even see it.

[Samantha]

There is always twitter updates and Habbox Down page, although I think the Habbox Down page should have the radio player on? xxMATTGxx; lawrawrrr;

Yes Twitter updates and a down page after it's gone down and we lose any work we were doing generally.

[lRhyss]

Yes Twitter updates and a down page after it's gone down and we lose any work we were doing generally.
If you're posting a large thread, do you never get really paranoid and copy it to notepad before posting, anyway?

[xxMATTGxx]

There is always twitter updates and Habbox Down page, although I think the Habbox Down page should have the radio player on? xxMATTGxx; lawrawrrr;

There problem wasn't the lack of updates Nick :P

[Samantha]

If you're posting a large thread, do you never get really paranoid and copy it to notepad before posting, anyway?

I don't do large threads much, I usually just post a few replies in one as I know what the forum and my Internet is like lmao! Although Bolt660; spent like 6 hours on one thread the other day and it got deleted, so he learnt ;).

[Nick]

But I never even mentioned the big events so I'm not sure why nick is talking about them?? I think originally he was using them as an excuse for why he can't post a thread about posting more but I can't be sure.

The whole time I was talking about my event I am planning, I didn't know you were on about the posting? Lmao

[Empired]

The whole time I was talking about my event I am planning, I didn't know you were on about the posting? Lmao
There appears to have been a communication error here :(

[:odey:]

Surely if the sites are down the radio can't be streamed??? IDK anything about that though as I know nothing about the backend :P

I know plenty about the backend. ;)



I do agree that a notification but be incredibly helpful, for graphics etc it gives us time to print screen tasks that need to be done so us saddos can carry on without having to try and remember what tasks there are left to complete etc

[lRhyss]

I know plenty about the backend. ;)
More like, rear end!

also I think there is a plugin/mod for vbulletin to allow live notices, if this would help?

[Reality]

Why not just integrate the Habbox Twitter feed to the Habbox.com/down page?!

- - - Updated - - -

Could always make a back-up tasks in a docs.google.com folder and make it accessiable for when the sites down just like any other department could (mainly par events and HxL).
I know plenty about the backend. ;)



I do agree that a notification but be incredibly helpful, for graphics etc it gives us time to print screen tasks that need to be done so us saddos can carry on without having to try and remember what tasks there are left to complete etc

[Nick]

There appears to have been a communication error here :(

Yes omg.

So going of what you were saying yeah, a thread like that could be done in a day lmao.

[-Nick]

More like, rear end!

also I think there is a plugin/mod for vbulletin to allow live notices, if this would help?
I remember someone brought this up a couple of years? I think it was @GoldenMerc (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=26925); or @David (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=73895); about this. But I thought you had to pay?:P

[Nick]

We aren't lifting the rep limit David; btw.

[David]

We aren't lifting the rep limit @David (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=73895); btw.

was looking for a reasonable time limit instead of a week, not a complete removal

[Nick]

was looking for a reasonable time limit instead of a week, not a complete removal

We suggested 3 days although it was denied :P

[David]

We suggested 3 days although it was denied :P

what was the reason

[Nick]

what was the reason

I just got told we aren't allowed it by Phil who asked Chris

[Empired]

Three days isn't enough time imo. I think five would be a good number but I don't mind the current one

[Chippiewill]

Surely if the sites are down the radio can't be streamed??? IDK anything about that though as I know nothing about the backend :P

It depends the reason for it being down. But in general if the /down/ page is working then shoutcast should be running. I'll have a play around to see if I can get it running.

[xxMATTGxx]

It depends the reason for it being down. But in general if the /down/ page is working then shoutcast should be running. I'll have a play around to see if I can get it running.

To get what running exactly? It would just be adding a player that is linked up to a shoutcast page onto the down page.

[Chippiewill]

This: http://habboxwiki.com/down/

[Rachel]

It would be nice to have either a shoutbox or a chat option at the bottom of the forum. I am not sure if it was already thought about but especially the chat option I would like to see or at least try it.

[Nick]

It would be nice to have either a shoutbox or a chat option at the bottom of the forum. I am not sure if it was already thought about but especially the chat option I would like to see or at least try it.

It has been done in the past but fail and the current state the forum is in I don't think a shoutbox is needed as it will decrease posting.

[Nick]

Close Debates

They're not popular, when one does come out it's either completely stupid or the same generic debate that's been done 300 times in the past 10 year (abortion, death penalty as a perfect example of the current 2)

The department itself isn't needed as it's useless and the debates spewed out by Dan are absolutely crap. The member debates could easily be posted within Discuss Anything instead.

For example just now we have the last post being 12 days ago (posted in a member debate), and the last post on official debates being between 20-27 days ago.

I am not sure we actually have a say in what goes for debates since it is technically another department. If we did have a say on what goes on in forum related departments then we would have a say in what competitions are posted etc but really we don't. Although a debates leader isn't really needed its good to have someone there to at least push out debates every now and again with rewards. I don't really view that forum at all so I don't know what really goes on but Dan could post a thread where people suggest debates or you guys can post debates and Dan could then decide wether or not its worth debating on and add prizes etc.



Fix the shop on non habbo dark skin

It's ugly and not been modified for the black laoyout

I've had a look at the non habbo skin shop and to be honest with you it freaks me out to change stuff because it looks scary lol. Um so I might have another play around with it and try not to break stuff..



Fix the shop

The only time gold bars are added is if there's a thread about it, then they'll add some for a few minutes then remove them again, either do it periodically (say on the first day of every month) and announce it so everyone has the same chance, or remove gold bars from the shop if you're never going to stock them.

Matt was the one that sold the gold bars (Assuming Chris would now, maybe). So unless I want to buy credits with my own money, which I don't want to, I don't know when they would be coming back. I like what you suggested about having them being sold on the first of every month though.



Sell VIP

Do Sulake even care if you sell VIP now? I'm pretty sure they haven't for years, added to that you used to only do it for Christmas (as money was going to charity) and now you seem to do it every holiday event (easter, summer, h'ween, etc), so I'm sure if they were against it you'd already be breaking their rules by doing that, so why not just fully go back to selling it?

Sulake don't have a problem with us selling VIP. They dropped it when Chris was the forum manager. We don't have any plans to sell VIP as of yet but I think we should keep it for seasonal purposes/comps/events etc so it has value.



Fix your calendar

If you go to the calendar (http://www.habboxforum.com/calendar.php) and click for example the 21st, 2 events booked yet it directs you to the forum homepage. So either it's set to 2 by default so it doesn't look dead or there's something wrong with your script.

Assuming this would be server side so we don't have access.



Make posting more 'attractive'

You have the Weekly Posting Stats (do you? it's not been posted since the 6th of October) which is meant to encourage people to post, but it doesn't. No-ones going to intentionally post 100 times so they can get VIP for the next week, and repeat it constantly. You need to make people want to post.

For example, if I post a bunch of threads the posts basically doubled.

Take the last weekly stats (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=814971) for example: 0 over 100 posts, 1145 total posts, 166 posters

Take a week (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=813620&highlight=weekly) I posted a few threads: 2 over 100 posts, 2816 total posts, 191 posters
Another week (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=813995&highlight=weekly) I posted a few threads: 2 over 100 posts, 2160 total posts, 156 posters

If you want people to post, then you actively need to make threads that people will want to post in, otherwise they'll look at the new posts/activity stream, see nothing and do nothing. They're not going to say oh the forums dead let's liven it up, they'll just look on another forum or do something else.

Encourage the mod team to posts, hell encourage every department to actively post more. Encourage them to actively make threads that'll promote discussion rather than replying to some thread with nothing useful.

Myself and Phil had a talk about improving the prizes for the 100 posts stats and I think we are having the prizes accumulate like motm. A thread will most likely be posted later on regarding this.

Also we have brought back staff posting which will hopefully encourage all staff to post more regularly. I wanted to make a requirement in the forum department and I don't think Phil wanted to, so im un sure about that at this point in time.



Clean up the forum

Take some time, go through the forums and clean it up.

Some examples:
- Sub forums that aren't active - merged with the parent forum in most cases just add a prefix or something.
- Old stickied threads - re-write them so it's appropriate now, or just remove them.

I'm sick of seeing stickied threads by someone who left 8 years ago tbh.

And the likes of temporary stickied threads becoming stuck for 3 years.

In my opinion, all stickied threads should be posted by a 'high' ranking member of staff (be it forum manager, smods, or agms)

Some examples of these could be;

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=720719 - A stickied thread that should have been temp.
http://www.habboxforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=432 - A subforum that hasn't been posted in for over a year and 6 months



That's all I can be bothered to think about just now

We have posted a thread regarding all old threads that need to be re done. Not all old ones are being re done by the current manager because they aren't really needed to such as comps and some other ones written by Matt that are still useful. I also went some of the sections and un stuck some threads that haven't been posted in for yonks but I have left some threads that have been posted ages ago as some hold some good information. I think we are planning to post most of the forum department related threads on forum god.

As of a few days ago I had merged the tutorials section with designing and development as well as adding a tutorial prefix. This will be posted in a thread once all of the clean up is completed.

Thought I would let you know whats going on rather than keeping you in the dark :P

[-Nick]

Nick; sunday forum updates?

[Nick]

Most probably

[scottish]

I'm on iPad and cba replying with a lot of effort s will do on Tuesday.

Regarding debates talk to management about it. See what they think about closing and getting rid of that forum.

VIP doesn't have value, it's a piece of piss to win it and if you want it you can buy it in one of the 10 seasonal events that you sell it on. So I ee no reason not to permanently sell it.

Can you give us statistics on the purchases of every VIP released in the past year, and the stats on donator? (By stats I just mean total purchases and monthly purchases)

Calendar again take up with appropriate depth who can deal with it

I honestly don't think a running reward will do much to encourage. Maybe have something like:
1 month VIP for whoever makes the most threads
1 month VIP for whoever makes the most posts
1 week VIP for (anyone else) that has over 100 posts

[Phil]

I'm on iPad and cba replying with a lot of effort s will do on Tuesday.

Regarding debates talk to management about it. See what they think about closing and getting rid of that forum.

VIP doesn't have value, it's a piece of piss to win it and if you want it you can buy it in one of the 10 seasonal events that you sell it on. So I ee no reason not to permanently sell it.

Can you give us statistics on the purchases of every VIP released in the past year, and the stats on donator? (By stats I just mean total purchases and monthly purchases)

Calendar again take up with appropriate depth who can deal with it

I honestly don't think a running reward will do much to encourage. Maybe have something like:
1 month VIP for whoever makes the most threads
1 month VIP for whoever makes the most posts
1 week VIP for (anyone else) that has over 100 posts

In relation to the calendar, I've spoke with the Site Coders and it's on their list of things to do :)

[Empired]

Can we have a forum notification every time Happy Hour is on? I know it gets posted in the CNB but honestly hardly anyone actually looks in there. Plus if there's an event on, that CNB notice is going to get covered up pretty quickly.

Can we please change this at the very least
http://habbox.com/assets/images//2014/08/12/cf027c.png

1. Tonight's Happy Hour is 8:30-9:30pm not 1-2pm
2. It's GMT now not BST
3. The summery theme doesn't reeaaaaally fit seeing as it's November but that won't kill me

But yeah points 1 and 2 are kinda urgent. Just seems lazy to contradict all of the information in the banner like tonight (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=815983&).

Thanksss :)

[Phil]

Can we have a forum notification every time Happy Hour is on? I know it gets posted in the CNB but honestly hardly anyone actually looks in there. Plus if there's an event on, that CNB notice is going to get covered up pretty quickly.

Can we please change this at the very least
http://habbox.com/assets/images//2014/08/12/cf027c.png

1. Tonight's Happy Hour is 8:30-9:30pm not 1-2pm
2. It's GMT now not BST
3. The summery theme doesn't reeaaaaally fit seeing as it's November but that won't kill me

But yeah points 1 and 2 are kinda urgent. Just seems lazy to contradict all of the information in the banner like tonight (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=815983&).

Thanksss :)

There is a Forum Notice and went up a few minutes after I posted. Can you see it? :O I know a lot of people don't spy on the CNB to see what's happening but it sdtill comes up in the New Posts, Activity Stream etc. which a lot of people DO check.

Omg lmao oops! That's Nicks from AGESSSSS AGO! Yeah I know but meh, I'll be requesting a more wintery one for the next few months :)

Thanks for the feedback!

[scottish]

I have CNB on ignore so notice does help. That notice went live like ten mins ago

[Phil]

I have CNB on ignore so notice does help. That notice went live like ten mins ago

Oh that's odd because I posted that, went for a pee and posted it as soon as I got back :(

[Empired]

Yeah I see it now but it wasn't there when I made the post.

Thanks for reply x

[-Nick]

I think a notification a day before.. There is not enough notice.

[Empired]

I think a notification a day before.. There is not enough notice.
Day before seems like too much time to me. I'd like to see a notification at least an hour (preferably two) beforehand.

[scottish]

Hour or two before is perfect.

[Phil]

If it were a day or two before, the hungry people won't post for th amount of time and then just post loads for tokens :P

[lRhyss]

Spontaneous happy hours are the best

[Rachel]

I always seem to miss it due to it always happens during GMT lol

[scottish]

Going to go through last 10 pages and quote some stuff

I cba putting who the quote is, the first few will be my original post then after that it'll probably mainly be Nick; and Phil;

I might repeat myself as I can't remember what I've posted in here recently, so if I do just copy your other reply if you already replied to me.


Close Debates

They're not popular, when one does come out it's either completely stupid or the same generic debate that's been done 300 times in the past 10 year (abortion, death penalty as a perfect example of the current 2)

The department itself isn't needed as it's useless and the debates spewed out by Dan are absolutely crap. The member debates could easily be posted within Discuss Anything instead.

For example just now we have the last post being 12 days ago (posted in a member debate), and the last post on official debates being between 20-27 days ago.

Was anything done about this? Discussion with GM's or any other relevant person?


Fix the shop on non habbo dark skin

It's ugly and not been modified for the black laoyout

Progress? looks as if nothing has changed


Fix the shop

The only time gold bars are added is if there's a thread about it, then they'll add some for a few minutes then remove them again, either do it periodically (say on the first day of every month) and announce it so everyone has the same chance, or remove gold bars from the shop if you're never going to stock them.

Progress? again looks like nothing has changed except a new VIP going into it.


Fix your calendar

If you go to the calendar (http://www.habboxforum.com/calendar.php) and click for example the 21st, 2 events booked yet it directs you to the forum homepage. So either it's set to 2 by default so it doesn't look dead or there's something wrong with your script.

Progress? have you spoken to site coders to ask for it to be fixed or anything?


Make posting more 'attractive'

You have the Weekly Posting Stats (do you? it's not been posted since the 6th of October) which is meant to encourage people to post, but it doesn't. No-ones going to intentionally post 100 times so they can get VIP for the next week, and repeat it constantly. You need to make people want to post.

For example, if I post a bunch of threads the posts basically doubled.

Take the last weekly stats (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=814971) for example: 0 over 100 posts, 1145 total posts, 166 posters

Take a week (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=813620&highlight=weekly) I posted a few threads: 2 over 100 posts, 2816 total posts, 191 posters
Another week (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=813995&highlight=weekly) I posted a few threads: 2 over 100 posts, 2160 total posts, 156 posters

If you want people to post, then you actively need to make threads that people will want to post in, otherwise they'll look at the new posts/activity stream, see nothing and do nothing. They're not going to say oh the forums dead let's liven it up, they'll just look on another forum or do something else.

Encourage the mod team to posts, hell encourage every department to actively post more. Encourage them to actively make threads that'll promote discussion rather than replying to some thread with nothing useful.

Progress? Activity has slightly picked up I guess you could say, but I don't see a surge of Staff posting or anything out of the ordinary?


Clean up the forum

Take some time, go through the forums and clean it up.

Some examples:
- Sub forums that aren't active - merged with the parent forum in most cases just add a prefix or something.
- Old stickied threads - re-write them so it's appropriate now, or just remove them.

I'm sick of seeing stickied threads by someone who left 8 years ago tbh.

And the likes of temporary stickied threads becoming stuck for 3 years.

In my opinion, all stickied threads should be posted by a 'high' ranking member of staff (be it forum manager, smods, or agms)

Some examples of these could be;

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=720719 - A stickied thread that should have been temp.
http://www.habboxforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=432 - A subforum that hasn't been posted in for over a year and 6 months

Progress? Has anything been fixed? Updated? Re-posted?


Now on to replies regarding stuff (I'll go from current page backwards so I get most recent replies)


I am not sure we actually have a say in what goes for debates since it is technically another department. If we did have a say on what goes on in forum related departments then we would have a say in what competitions are posted etc but really we don't. Although a debates leader isn't really needed its good to have someone there to at least push out debates every now and again with rewards. I don't really view that forum at all so I don't know what really goes on but Dan could post a thread where people suggest debates or you guys can post debates and Dan could then decide wether or not its worth debating on and add prizes etc.

You could take it up with an AGM or GM as it's isolated to the forums (so essentially a forum dept, in a sense), a forum moderator watching that section could easily deal with rewards if necessary and I believe there is a thread, but it's only crap that seemed to get pushed out anyway.


I've had a look at the non habbo skin shop and to be honest with you it freaks me out to change stuff because it looks scary lol. Um so I might have another play around with it and try not to break stuff..

Anything? It still looks as bad as it always has and nothing has changed (Except an even uglier rememberance day entry)


Matt was the one that sold the gold bars (Assuming Chris would now, maybe). So unless I want to buy credits with my own money, which I don't want to, I don't know when they would be coming back. I like what you suggested about having them being sold on the first of every month though.

Then ask Chris, or ask Matt what's happening regarding that and either remove it from the shop if it's never going to be put in, or set up a schedule for it.


Sulake don't have a problem with us selling VIP. They dropped it when Chris was the forum manager. We don't have any plans to sell VIP as of yet but I think we should keep it for seasonal purposes/comps/events etc so it has value.

It has no value, there's like 30 months of VIP given out every month isn't there?


Assuming this would be server side so we don't have access.

Ask someone who does? It's a bug on your forums, ask the appropriate member who can deal with it to fix it.


Myself and Phil had a talk about improving the prizes for the 100 posts stats and I think we are having the prizes accumulate like motm. A thread will most likely be posted later on regarding this.

Also we have brought back staff posting which will hopefully encourage all staff to post more regularly. I wanted to make a requirement in the forum department and I don't think Phil wanted to, so im un sure about that at this point in time.

Was there a thread posted about it? are you actually monitoring staff posts to ensure they're posting, as I've not seen any surge in posts due to staff posting more.


We have posted a thread regarding all old threads that need to be re done. Not all old ones are being re done by the current manager because they aren't really needed to such as comps and some other ones written by Matt that are still useful. I also went some of the sections and un stuck some threads that haven't been posted in for yonks but I have left some threads that have been posted ages ago as some hold some good information. I think we are planning to post most of the forum department related threads on forum god.

As of a few days ago I had merged the tutorials section with designing and development as well as adding a tutorial prefix. This will be posted in a thread once all of the clean up is completed.

Thought I would let you know whats going on rather than keeping you in the dark

Has any of it been done? ALL old threads need to be re-done, (i'm sure someone already said this) use a unique account (like forum god) to post ALL the important/stickied threads so that when inevitably a manager leaves you don't have an important thread posted by a random member.

oh wow there wasn't as much quotes as I was expecting.

[MKR&*42]

Also in a different thread about tokens a while back, it was suggested by people (and iit was going to be added) that a three day vip taster option be added into the shop at a low-ish price, cause atm you need 1500 tokens to get a reward etc

[Chris]

I haven't addressed everything but this is for you scottish;

Debates

Not going anywhere. The way I see it, it’s better to have at least some regularity to when debates get posted rather than none at all.

Shop on dark skin

Added to the to-do list but it's not a priority at the moment.

Calendar

There was a problem when you originally posted but from what I can see it has been fixed.

Clean up forum

It’s unnecessary to remake every stuck thread. If its stuck it’s important and thats all people need to know.

Selling VIP

Staying as prizes only.

[scottish]

Debates

Then make a debates blacklist, so he doesn't post the same debate everytime he has no idea what else to do

Shop on dark skin

How long is this likely to take? It's a few minutes tweaking the colours.

Calendar

Oh, it seems some attempt has been made to fix the calendar but it's still bugged.

http://www.habboxforum.com/calendar.php

When I first clicked the 10th, it took me to the homepage, I had to go back and click 10th again for it to properly show me.

Same with the 11th, and 12th, etc.

Seems to always load forum homepage first time, go back and try again then it'll work.

Font really needs changing too, 1 looks like 7 imho.

Clean up forum

It is necessary, how many forums do you go on and see important threads posted by some random member? not very many. any forum I use it's an active staff member that's posted the important threads.

All important threads that are staying about for years, should imho be posted by an account like forum god. and a lot of old stickied threads are pointless/no longer needed.

Selling VIP

Why?

[Phil]

scottish; in reply to you. I just have a lot to do tonight and haven't time to be divding up your post into the respective quotes so this will have to do you ;)

Debates:
Never had the discussion but Chris seems pretty clear by his post :P

Shop:
After you initially posted I know Nick went and had a play with it but I'm not sure how far he got. Might have to let him answer on that one.

Calendar:
The only progress I've made on this is inform that Site Coders and I was told it has been added to their list of things to do.

Posting:
I've started to monitor staff posting and I've been posting breakdowns in the Habbox Staff forums. I'm giving out Tokens for the best poster in each department. I've also PM'd all managers encouraging them to get all of their staff posting and perhaps often incentive within department.

Clean Up:
I've gone through every single forum, sub forum etc and compiled a list of all stickied threads posted by someone who isn't the current manager. I've divided each one that is out dated into the respective department but whather they decide it is necessary to change them or not is up to them. The Forum have quite a large list and to be honest I haven't started going through it yet myself but I hope to do so soon. I'll be using Forum God to post these so this won't have to be done again.

Anything else? Feel free to pry

[scottish]

Make subforums hidden until you fix them

http://www.habboxforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1684

:P

[Phil]

What's wrong with it?

[-Nick]

nvm

[scottish]

I assumed only staff were meant to be able to post, given the prefix's open and closed.

[GommeInc]

Make posting more 'attractive'

You have the Weekly Posting Stats (do you? it's not been posted since the 6th of October) which is meant to encourage people to post, but it doesn't. No-ones going to intentionally post 100 times so they can get VIP for the next week, and repeat it constantly. You need to make people want to post.

For example, if I post a bunch of threads the posts basically doubled.

Take the last weekly stats (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=814971) for example: 0 over 100 posts, 1145 total posts, 166 posters

Take a week (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=813620&highlight=weekly) I posted a few threads: 2 over 100 posts, 2816 total posts, 191 posters
Another week (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=813995&highlight=weekly) I posted a few threads: 2 over 100 posts, 2160 total posts, 156 posters

If you want people to post, then you actively need to make threads that people will want to post in, otherwise they'll look at the new posts/activity stream, see nothing and do nothing. They're not going to say oh the forums dead let's liven it up, they'll just look on another forum or do something else.

Encourage the mod team to posts, hell encourage every department to actively post more. Encourage them to actively make threads that'll promote discussion rather than replying to some thread with nothing useful.
Adding to this - get staff and/or cliques to talk on the forum and not on Skype. It's so boring seeing threads where people seem to have Skype conversations overflowing on to the forum.

If the Staff forums are anything to go by they should probably be removed unless they're specifically private affairs. I certainly hope there isn't a forum per department either as this isn't a huge conglomerate so there shouldn't be private department discussions going on. What one forum department does isn't that great to be kept secret from staff in general. Besides, the input of one member of staff from another department wouldn't exactly kill you. That's if that mess of an area still exists as it was a very long time ago.

[MKR&*42]

I think youd be surprised by how rarely anyone ever posts in any of the spam threads or 'habbox staff only'. honest to god its pretty much dead 99pcnt of the time.

[RyRy]

Reddit-style thumbs up/thumbs down for posts.

A like system/dislike system hybrid basically.

Also the ability to pay for 6 month subscriptions to VIP (but not any less, just 6 months or 12 months)

Would also like some new smileys because the ones we have a are a little stale.

[MKR&*42]

pls do not bring up this like/dislike feature scenario AGAIN itll cause another war and argument

[RyRy]

pls do not bring up this like/dislike feature scenario AGAIN itll cause another war and argument

Just making a suggestion pal, wasn't looking to start a war. I just like the system that Reddit has, posts that are good get upvoted, posts that are bad get buried. Tweak it so that disliked posts get auto-moderated and you've got a user-assisted moderation tool as well as an add-on to the reputation system.

[MKR&*42]

Just making a suggestion pal, wasn't looking to start a war. I just like the system that Reddit has, posts that are good get upvoted, posts that are bad get buried. Tweak it so that disliked posts get auto-moderated and you've got a user-assisted moderation tool as well as an add-on to the reputation system.

You probably weren't but it will end up that way :P I'm fairly sure there was a poll done on the matter a while ago and the majority favoured just a rep system unless im mixing it with something else.

[RyRy]

You probably weren't but it will end up that way :P I'm fairly sure there was a poll done on the matter a while ago and the majority favoured just a rep system unless im mixing it with something else.

Yeah, I'm not thinking of a replacement to the rep system. I think the two can live in harmony, as there's posts I agree with although I don't think they're worth a rep.

[MKR&*42]

Yeah, I'm not thinking of a replacement to the rep system. I think the two can live in harmony, as there's posts I agree with although I don't think they're worth a rep.

I think that scenario came up too and it was deemed useless to have 2 systems :P. The only forum ik of that does have the 2 systems is one i dont think i can even say, but I've never found it to be worthwhile on there and just use one instead of the other.

[RyRy]

I think that scenario came up too and it was deemed useless to have 2 systems :P. The only forum ik of that does have the 2 systems is one i dont think i can even say, but I've never found it to be worthwhile on there and just use one instead of the other.

Meh, it's a suggestion. If people don't want it, it's not being forced upon them. :)

[MKR&*42]

Meh, it's a suggestion. If people don't want it, it's not being forced upon them. :)

It might go to the poll stage again but I'd imagine the outcome would be the same :P

[RyRy]

It might go to the poll stage again but I'd imagine the outcome would be the same :P

If its deemed as a replacement to the reputation system, I've no doubt. If it was brought in conjunction, I think it'd be a bit closer but it'd be a no.

[Nick]

I think if we were to add a like/dislike system I would rather have 1 or the other which would cause arguments like last time :(

[scottish]

Reddit-style thumbs up/thumbs down for posts.

A like system/dislike system hybrid basically.

Also the ability to pay for 6 month subscriptions to VIP (but not any less, just 6 months or 12 months)

Would also like some new smileys because the ones we have a are a little stale.

Like/thumbs system has been suggested so many times and most people are against it from what I remember, including GMs.

the 6/12 month wouldn't be that great, as some people would prefer to buy 1 month at a time rather than be forced to buy 6 (i.e. new users, if I join a forum and buy VIP (not that I ever would) I definitely wouldn't buy a year straight away, I'd buy 1 month stick about and then maybe consider it)

I agree we need new emoticons, get rid of all the habbo furni and get some new non habbo skins (even if you have to buy them from themeforest or whatever)

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Just making a suggestion pal, wasn't looking to start a war. I just like the system that Reddit has, posts that are good get upvoted, posts that are bad get buried. Tweak it so that disliked posts get auto-moderated and you've got a user-assisted moderation tool as well as an add-on to the reputation system.

then people heavily abuse it, or downvote people they don't like and their threads get burried? :P

I think that would creative a heavily negative atmosphere, it may be fine with massive communities, but this community is very small.

Say a group of friends don't like you and now your threads are going to constantly be burried :P

[RyRy]

Like/thumbs system has been suggested so many times and most people are against it from what I remember, including GMs.

the 6/12 month wouldn't be that great, as some people would prefer to buy 1 month at a time rather than be forced to buy 6 (i.e. new users, if I join a forum and buy VIP (not that I ever would) I definitely wouldn't buy a year straight away, I'd buy 1 month stick about and then maybe consider it)

I agree we need new emoticons, get rid of all the habbo furni and get some new non habbo skins (even if you have to buy them from themeforest or whatever)

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then people heavily abuse it, or downvote people they don't like and their threads get burried? :P

I think that would creative a heavily negative atmosphere, it may be fine with massive communities, but this community is very small.

Say a group of friends don't like you and now your threads are going to constantly be burried :P

Idea of making it 6/12 month is because some people would prefer to buy 1 month of a time. That's the point. If people want 1 month at a time, play competitions. If you want months in bulk, buy em. It's a compromise between what the rule is now and reinstating VIP fully.

Like/dislike wouldn't be for individual threads, it'd be for individual posts within threads.

[scottish]

There is no rule in place now? It's the staffs decision to not sell VIP for whatever delusional reason.

I disagree with a like/dislike system (either over or in conjunction with rep), and would strongly disagree with it if it mean you could bury peoples posts or if it in any way modified the post structure (i.e oldest first) really.

[Kyle]

Rise of staff skype chats a steady decline of staff posting (even in their own forums) is NOT just a coincidence. Having staff members on skype for easy contact is fine but group conversations are not. Pls pls pls give encouragement to staff members that are supposed to be in support of habbox and all of it's sister sites (te forum especially) to make somewhat engaging posts that aren't just in-jokes written in the span forum. It is a community and should work as one.

As for debates please don't remove them. Better rules and better topics. I don't know how popular they would be if it got too strict but the straw manning and lack of actual evidence shrouded by long paragraphs of waffle is what bores me about debates on politics and such. Have some debates that aren't so easily tipped to one side and reward more consistently those that are willing to debate on something they don't necessarily believe just to provide some substance to the discussions. Disagree with having debates in discuss anything because those always devolve into shouting matches and it's usually a group of people calling a smaller group or individual an idiot because of what they're posting. There's an Aristotle quote somewhere about entertaining a thought without accepting it that can apply here.

I'd love if each mod was tasked with posting 1 thread per month in each of their designated subforums that promotes discussion. Easily achievable I think.

We already have what is essentially an up vote/like system and it leads to so much bandwagoning it's tragic. I'd rather have it removed and have people think for themselves but I guess that's too idealistic. Yeah what the heck, bring in a like system, it's too late for the personality merge of the entire forum to turn back now anyway.


~~from phone

[Kyle]

Oh and let moderators actually read post reports. Come on guys, like, what the hell?


~~from phone

[Nick]

Rise of staff skype chats a steady decline of staff posting (even in their own forums) is NOT just a coincidence. Having staff members on skype for easy contact is fine but group conversations are not. Pls pls pls give encouragement to staff members that are supposed to be in support of habbox and all of it's sister sites (te forum especially) to make somewhat engaging posts that aren't just in-jokes written in the span forum. It is a community and should work as one.

As for debates please don't remove them. Better rules and better topics. I don't know how popular they would be if it got too strict but the straw manning and lack of actual evidence shrouded by long paragraphs of waffle is what bores me about debates on politics and such. Have some debates that aren't so easily tipped to one side and reward more consistently those that are willing to debate on something they don't necessarily believe just to provide some substance to the discussions. Disagree with having debates in discuss anything because those always devolve into shouting matches and it's usually a group of people calling a smaller group or individual an idiot because of what they're posting. There's an Aristotle quote somewhere about entertaining a thought without accepting it that can apply here.

I'd love if each mod was tasked with posting 1 thread per month in each of their designated subforums that promotes discussion. Easily achievable I think.

We already have what is essentially an up vote/like system and it leads to so much bandwagoning it's tragic. I'd rather have it removed and have people think for themselves but I guess that's too idealistic. Yeah what the heck, bring in a like system, it's too late for the personality merge of the entire forum to turn back now anyway.


~~from phone

I agree that the Skype chats has made posting on the decline because it really has. The easy access to talk to other people and rather than discussing in their own forum has really had its toll.

As for debates I feel like Dan should be here to think of a new ish system and rules as he is the leader?

When myself and Phil were discussing brining back staff posting I did also bring up a target that all moderators should hit posting wise but I don't think he agreed with me :S and it was swept under the rug


Oh and let moderators actually read post reports. Come on guys, like, what the hell?


~~from phone

If we were to do that all moderators would see all post reports of all sections, not just the 2 they moderate. That leads to us having to give all moderators access to the moderator control panel which then leads to the super moderator position becoming a bit pointless so basically brining back the global moderators, which in my opinion i don't really like :P

[Chris]

scottish; What exactly do you not like about the forum shop on the dark skin?

[scottish]

Have you looked at it?

If you've looked at it, I don't even need to explain.

[Nick]

Looks fine to me

[scottish]

http://www.lexet.net/ScreenShot3165.png

1) The cart section should match the background, it doesn't, it's using the default white background etc which is completely out of place with the skin
2) The images aren't transparent, which looks fine on normal skins as they all have white backgrounds, but not on a dark blackground
3) The shop icon has the same issue, white background when it should be black
4) The example VIP the same, it should be transparent and it shouldn't be stretching.

Why give examples of the other VIP (in text) then a picture of Remembrance Day VIP?

[Chris]

http://www.lexet.net/ScreenShot3165.png

1) The cart section should match the background, it doesn't, it's using the default white background etc which is completely out of place with the skin
2) The images aren't transparent, which looks fine on normal skins as they all have white backgrounds, but not on a dark blackground
3) The shop icon has the same issue, white background when it should be black
4) The example VIP the same, it should be transparent and it shouldn't be stretching.

Why give examples of the other VIP (in text) then a picture of Remembrance Day VIP?

1) Sorted
2) The images were intended to be that way
3) Sorted
4) No image was supplied to me so I took a screenshot and uploaded that, and yes David; it is from a mac
5) None of the examples are in text format

[scottish]

1, 3) You need to change the colour of 'Shop' and the Your cart is currently empty.. etc to white (look on the skin you'll see what else)

2) Why? It merges with the background on every other skin, except N-H Dark

4) Ask them for the image or look on the acp and get an image for yourself, as that ones massive, ugly and extends the box (even if it is only temp.)

5) Neither they are, but they look as if they could be, so the Rememb should be the same :P

[Nick]

1) Sorted
2) The images were intended to be that way
3) Sorted
4) No image was supplied to me so I took a screenshot and uploaded that, and yes David; it is from a mac
5) None of the examples are in text format

http://www.retinacapture.com/

Lets you take x1 pictures instead of x2 pictures on retnia macs. I use it and it works great!!

[xxMATTGxx]

To the people suggesting about killing the skype chats - That would not work one bit. We do not control what IM services they use and they can always create new group chats with their departments and speak in them without even saying it's a staff chat. We should encourage them to post on the forum, sure but the Skype rule would be impossible to even enforce.

Plus, what are we going to do? Fire people for speaking on skype about Habbox in group chats. Seems rather ridiculous.

[Nick]

To the people suggesting about killing the skype chats - That would not work one bit. We do not control what IM services they use and they can always create new group chats with their departments and speak in them without even saying it's a staff chat. We should encourage them to post on the forum, sure but the Skype rule would be impossible to even enforce.

Agreed. More posting needs to be done, not only outside of staff forums but in them as well because they are dead as a door ****.

[xxMATTGxx]

Idea of making it 6/12 month is because some people would prefer to buy 1 month of a time. That's the point. If people want 1 month at a time, play competitions. If you want months in bulk, buy em. It's a compromise between what the rule is now and reinstating VIP fully.

Like/dislike wouldn't be for individual threads, it'd be for individual posts within threads.


There is no rule in place now? It's the staffs decision to not sell VIP for whatever delusional reason.

I disagree with a like/dislike system (either over or in conjunction with rep), and would strongly disagree with it if it mean you could bury peoples posts or if it in any way modified the post structure (i.e oldest first) really.

Does it even do the same as reddit? Well I don't know if there is a vBulletin plugin for that but the "Like" systems I have seen, it's a simple like or dislike on posts and it doesn't go down if it has a lot of dislikes I don't believe. I could be wrong as we have never really looked into it fully as a lot of people didn't want to get rid of their reputation.

[scottish]

To the people suggesting about killing the skype chats - That would not work one bit. We do not control what IM services they use and they can always create new group chats with their departments and speak in them without even saying it's a staff chat. We should encourage them to post on the forum, sure but the Skype rule would be impossible to even enforce.

Plus, what are we going to do? Fire people for speaking on skype about Habbox in group chats. Seems rather ridiculous.

Then get the dept. managers or seniors in the chat to tell people to take it to the forums instead, if you start a staff chat without any managers or seniors, it's not going to be any use is it.

from what I see atm there's skype groups for every type of staff member (e.g. HxHD, HxHD Senior, Managers, etc)

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Does it even do the same as reddit? Well I don't know if there is a vBulletin plugin for that but the "Like" systems I have seen, it's a simple like or dislike on posts and it doesn't go down if it has a lot of dislikes I don't believe. I could be wrong as we have never really looked into it fully as a lot of people didn't want to get rid of their reputation.

No idea, the like systems I've seen are like what you mentioned, but the way ryan described it in his first post regarding it was as if it's a reddit-style system.

[xxMATTGxx]

Then get the dept. managers or seniors in the chat to tell people to take it to the forums instead, if you start a staff chat without any managers or seniors, it's not going to be any use is it.

from what I see atm there's skype groups for every type of staff member (e.g. HxHD, HxHD Senior, Managers, etc)

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No idea, the like systems I've seen are like what you mentioned, but the way ryan described it in his first post regarding it was as if it's a reddit-style system.

What I'm saying is, you cannot and will not stop people speaking on Skype. People will still speak about their department/Habbox without the department managers being in there. I've seen it myself and people will just create a new chat to speak to their friends or their department with ease.

[scottish]

What I'm saying is, you cannot and will not stop people speaking on Skype. People will still speak about their department/Habbox without the department managers being in there. I've seen it myself and people will just create a new chat to speak to their friends or their department with ease.

Of course they will, but you could significantly reduce it if you's aren't encouraging it.

If you tell your managers/seniors not to a) set up groups in the first place b) not take part in staff groups then they'll start dying down, you'll always have a few friends making them but you won't have a staff chat for every department, every department seniors, every department managers, then the higher ups.

By taking part in it, you're encouraging it (and not sure if it's the managers who are making them or not atm?) which makes them post random stuff on Skype instead of anything on the forum.

[lawrawrrr]

A lot of the staff skype chat stuff that goes on isn't really stuff that would be posted on the forum - personal chit chat and helping each other with problems in the department. I do think staff should be encouraged - especially moderators - to post a lot more than they do, but the skype chats aren't really changing a whole lot. The people who actively talk in the Skype chats actively post round the forum too, so...

[xxMATTGxx]

Of course they will, but you could significantly reduce it if you's aren't encouraging it.

If you tell your managers/seniors not to a) set up groups in the first place b) not take part in staff groups then they'll start dying down, you'll always have a few friends making them but you won't have a staff chat for every department, every department seniors, every department managers, then the higher ups.

By taking part in it, you're encouraging it (and not sure if it's the managers who are making them or not atm?) which makes them post random stuff on Skype instead of anything on the forum.

You would not see any benefits from us closing the official staff chats. Like Laura mentions it's normally stuff you would not want on a forum or to be discussed publicly on the forum anyway. So what's the advantage? There isn't any.

Encouraging them = Yes
Restricting them = No

[Chris]

1, 3) You need to change the colour of 'Shop' and the Your cart is currently empty.. etc to white (look on the skin you'll see what else)

2) Why? It merges with the background on every other skin, except N-H Dark

4) Ask them for the image or look on the acp and get an image for yourself, as that ones massive, ugly and extends the box (even if it is only temp.)

5) Neither they are, but they look as if they could be, so the Rememb should be the same :P

1, 3) No they're fine.

2) They're fine.

4) Its there for a few more days and then it's gone. Its fine.

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

[scottish]

1, 3) No they're fine.

2) They're fine.

4) Its there for a few more days and then it's gone. Its fine.

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

1,3) No they're not, they're a dark text colour when they should be white (like every other piece of text on the page). Having dark text on a dark background isn't fine.

[Kyle]

also remove the ugly brown notices in the dark skin change them to something that actually goes with the scheme and doesnt look like it's meant for colourblind mode

[Samantha]

When I first started using Skype I didn't even know about staff groups, but in some departments it seems like you have to have Skype or something to communicate (not counting HabboxLive in this case as it's used for changeovers). Most Content Staff don't use Skype therefore PM/VM is an alternative to contact them - it may take longer, but at the end of the day we volunteer on this site, not Skype. I don't mind the chats unless a manager is then giving out warnings over it or discussing something that should be done via PM - it might seem silly to do, but it was happening when I was AGM.

I know it's a couple of pages back now, but I don't agree with having 2 systems that near enough do the same job, i.e. a like and rep system. It might seem a good solution when you feel a post doesn't really deserve rep, but you like it, but remember we had the Achievements and Awards systems running together which were similar and one of them got removed.

[MKR&*42]

If you closed skype chats, people would then resort to using the spam threads in staff forums, and if they were closed nothing will improve as was shown with the experiment done a while ago.

I do however agree the skype chats have taken sooo much discussion away from the forum and it is a bit of a shame. It should be the manager's responsibility (and agm staff i guess... or agm content + community now that's gone) to encourage their staff to post and potentially punish those who don't interact enough.

[Alkaz]

It's nice to see Forum God posting new, up to date announcements in forums. Looks a whole lot better than random department managers.

[RyRy]

I don't think disallowing Skype chats for staff would have any effect on the forum. Not only that, I thought this was a thread for ideas for the forum? Not ideas for how to oppress staff into a scheme of "our way or the highway". Bit unnecessary here isn't it. Some things may require a lot of people to know, you use a forum for that. If it's just for one or two people, you add them to a Skype chat. Really bizarre.
xxMATTGxx; I don't know whether there is a vBulletin add-on which would provide that kind of functionality, but I was just suggesting it as an idea. Even if it did exist, it probably wouldn't have a place on this forum. Just a thought, is all!

[Nick]

It's nice to see Forum God posting new, up to date announcements in forums. Looks a whole lot better than random department managers.

Glad you like them!! Still got most of the forum to do omg

[Phil]

Reddit-style thumbs up/thumbs down for posts.

A like system/dislike system hybrid basically.

Also the ability to pay for 6 month subscriptions to VIP (but not any less, just 6 months or 12 months)

Would also like some new smileys because the ones we have a are a little stale.


Just making a suggestion pal, wasn't looking to start a war. I just like the system that Reddit has, posts that are good get upvoted, posts that are bad get buried. Tweak it so that disliked posts get auto-moderated and you've got a user-assisted moderation tool as well as an add-on to the reputation system.

Not a fan of the like/dislike system but that doesn't mean I won't bring it in if it's wanted btu various polls in the past have shown is not really wanted. If it comes in it'll be pretty much the same as rep I believe? I don't support the whole assited moderating of p[osts because as Scott said, people will just dislike peoples posts whom they don't like which will create pointless work for Moderators.

I'll have a look at getting some smileys

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Reddit-style thumbs up/thumbs down for posts.

A like system/dislike system hybrid basically.

Also the ability to pay for 6 month subscriptions to VIP (but not any less, just 6 months or 12 months)

Would also like some new smileys because the ones we have a are a little stale.


Just making a suggestion pal, wasn't looking to start a war. I just like the system that Reddit has, posts that are good get upvoted, posts that are bad get buried. Tweak it so that disliked posts get auto-moderated and you've got a user-assisted moderation tool as well as an add-on to the reputation system.

Not a fan of the like/dislike system but that doesn't mean I won't bring it in if it's wanted btu various polls in the past have shown is not really wanted. If it comes in it'll be pretty much the same as rep I believe? I don't support the whole assited moderating of p[osts because as Scott said, people will just dislike peoples posts whom they don't like which will create pointless work for Moderators.

I'll have a look at getting some smileys

[Samantha]

Not a fan of the like/dislike system but that doesn't mean I won't bring it in if it's wanted btu various polls in the past have shown is not really wanted. If it comes in it'll be pretty much the same as rep I believe? I don't support the whole assited moderating of p[osts because as Scott said, people will just dislike peoples posts whom they don't like which will create pointless work for Moderators.

I'll have a look at getting some smileys

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Not a fan of the like/dislike system but that doesn't mean I won't bring it in if it's wanted btu various polls in the past have shown is not really wanted. If it comes in it'll be pretty much the same as rep I believe? I don't support the whole assited moderating of p[osts because as Scott said, people will just dislike peoples posts whom they don't like which will create pointless work for Moderators.

I'll have a look at getting some smileys

I remember suggesting custom smileys years ago, you could probably have a competition to design them perhaps? Although, if you do get new ones please don't remove the ones we have now - they have been available since the forum was 4 days old and I think it'd be a shame to lose them (the blue ones etc.) The rare ones can go in my opinion too.

[scottish]

I remember suggesting custom smileys years ago, you could probably have a competition to design them perhaps? Although, if you do get new ones please don't remove the ones we have now - they have been available since the forum was 4 days old and I think it'd be a shame to lose them (the blue ones etc.) The rare ones can go in my opinion too.

The rares can go, they clog it up and are used like once a year

[Samantha]

The rares can go, they clog it up and are used like once a year

Yeah I agree, I think they probably lost their purpose in 2010(?) when Rare Values reporting changed to the site.

[David]

http://tashload.com/Uploader/uploads//R6LHapJ.gif

[Chris]

I would actually quite like to see some new smilies too. Custom made ones would be awesome.

[scottish]

if custom fails steal skypes

[Nick]

Sounds like a fun job for the gfx dept :P

[MKR&*42]

I did suggest the gfx dept make new smilies (to the manager) quite a LONG while back but it didn't really go anywhere it seems :P im still up for it

[David]

do a competition for them i promise not to win

[Nick]

do a competition for them i promise not to win

Pls join gfx again

[Kardan]

Not been on the forum for a few days, so it's probably already been said - but using those forum announcement on new posts is not a good idea. Clicked on new posts today and got spammed with about 15/20 of them.

[David]

Pls join gfx again

Pay me

http://i.icap.me/3914159181671a2e.png

[xxMATTGxx]

Pay me

http://i.icap.me/3914159181671a2e.png

I'm sure you know other ways of solving that issue with your Photoshop expiring.

[David]

I'm sure you know other ways of solving that issue with your Photoshop expiring.

hold a bake sale?

[Nick]

Rlly david rlly

[David]

selling cupcakes vm me

[xxMATTGxx]

selling cupcakes vm me

Hope you are doing it for Children In Need.


On topic: Yeah new smilies would be cool if they were good enough.

[David]

Hope you are doing it for Children In Need.


On topic: Yeah new smilies would be cool if they were good enough.

David In Need

[Nick]

Get cracking ;)

[scottish]

how much per cupcake?

[David]

2 hcs

[Samantha]

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before, but the 'Become a Habbox Donator' forum could do with renaming as it's mainly for selling VIP now. It could just be something like Buy/Sell Habbox Donator/VIP here. The description could do with changing too. The latest post about the Donator for VIP trade, would it be worth while having a trading prefix available too as it's not limited to buying and selling?

[Nick]

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before, but the 'Become a Habbox Donator' forum could do with renaming as it's mainly for selling VIP now. It could just be something like Buy/Sell Habbox Donator/VIP here. The description could do with changing too. The latest post about the Donator for VIP trade, would it be worth while having a trading prefix available too as it's not limited to buying and selling?

Nice idea. Phil; can probably update this :)

[ItsMeerken]

Embed the radio into the forum to boost listeners x

[scottish]

Embed the radio into the forum to boost listeners x

nope.

[James]

nope.
x2.

[Phil]

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before, but the 'Become a Habbox Donator' forum could do with renaming as it's mainly for selling VIP now. It could just be something like Buy/Sell Habbox Donator/VIP here. The description could do with changing too. The latest post about the Donator for VIP trade, would it be worth while having a trading prefix available too as it's not limited to buying and selling?

Yeah good point, I'll do this now!


Embed the radio into the forum to boost listeners x

x3

Won't be happening because:

1. It will slow down the forum.
2. A lot of the Forum members don't listewn to the radio and don't want to hear it.
3. People will have to mute it or whatever else every time they open a new page.

[ItsMeerken]

it should happen and it should be muted when you load so you have the option and i dont think it would slow down the forum tbh

[Chippiewill]

1. It will slow down the forum.
2. A lot of the Forum members don't listewn to the radio and don't want to hear it.
3. People will have to mute it or whatever else every time they open a new page.

None of these are actually valid reasons:

1) JS runs after the page loads
2) You don't have to default to on / use cookies to save state
3) You don't have to default to on / use cookies to save state / detect other instances

[scottish]

it should happen and it should be muted when you load so you have the option and i dont think it would slow down the forum tbh

It shouldn't happen. It wouldn't slow the forum down but it still shouldn't happen.

At best they should get the old plugin for shoutcast back where you can open a popup, but I doubt that was used. Anyone who actually wanted to listen to hxl, would go on hxl.

[FlyingJesus]

Would it not reset (and therefore skip a couple of seconds) every time you went to a new page or something meaning you'd need to keep one window/tab static anyway and might as well just have the hxl page open