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Nistez
02-04-2013, 03:32 PM
Okay, most of you have noticed that the forum has been having pretty low activity. There aren't many people online and new threads take ages to appear. Thing is, it's not only the Forum. HabboxLive has had pretty low audience as well. Why is habbox in such a bad period? People still go to official fansites but their favorite option hasn't been Habbox lately. Other fansites such as HFFM are getting more audience than us and that bothers me. The board should take action, but we should also help?
What should we do so that Habbox doesn't go to an eternal hiatus?
I didn't know Matt resigned and you took his place.
Inseriousity.
02-04-2013, 03:43 PM
See above for one reason.
MKR&*42
02-04-2013, 03:44 PM
I think someone brought up in another thread that Habbox people are less tolerant to newbies and younger players and stuff, whereas it's kinda just a common thing over at other fansites.
I'm sure there's a whole list of reasons though.
David
02-04-2013, 03:45 PM
I didn't know Matt resigned and you took his place.
aren't mods supposed to be nice not sarcastic
you're not gonna get an audience if there is nothing habbox client related..which at the moment there isn't
i think i went to like 5 events last week and managed to play one because no one showed up so we couldn't start the others
guess thats what happens when you have peeople in charge who barely play the game they are running a fansite for!
(not talking about mike or matt) but still, more could be done... i know over at hffm one admin has a maze, one is building an auto game for them and there are others doing other things lol.....over at habbox..nothing. they rely on their users to do everything for them, and you can barely get a thanks lol
hamheyelliot
02-04-2013, 03:52 PM
Now I'm 18, I realise that when I joined at the age of 13 - I posted a lot of stupid stuff. Now I watch other younger users sign up and post daft stuff, take an immediate dislike to them - then they're not made to feel very welcome and they stop posting.
Then you're left with a bunch of only older members who hate Habbo/each other and therefore also stop posting, and that's how we got here folks.
Matthew
02-04-2013, 03:55 PM
you're not gonna get an audience if there is nothing habbox client related..which at the moment there isn't
i think i went to like 5 events last week and managed to play one because no one showed up so we couldn't start the others
guess thats what happens when you have peeople in charge who barely play the game they are running a fansite for!
(not talking about mike or matt) but still, more could be done... i know over at hffm one admin has a maze, one is building an auto game for them and there are others doing other things lol.....over at habbox..nothing. they rely on their users to do everything for them, and you can barely get a thanks lol
Doesn't Zak; have an official habbox maze?
Not sure if this is right, I.. urm.. don't play habbo anymore (A)
David
02-04-2013, 03:58 PM
Doesn't Zak; have an official habbox maze?
Not sure if this is right, I.. urm.. don't play habbo anymore (A)
they rely on their users to do everything for them, and you can barely get a thanks lol
proves his point sort of, zak is a forum member and his maze is being used as a habbox room :P
Doesn't Zak; have an official habbox maze?
Not sure if this is right, I.. urm.. don't play habbo anymore (A)
Yeah he does, but he isn't really active is what i'm talking about, and again he is just an normal user who put habbox on their room name. Not someone who actually has a role at habbox lol
Inseriousity.
02-04-2013, 04:02 PM
you're not gonna get an audience if there is nothing habbox client related..which at the moment there isn't
i think i went to like 5 events last week and managed to play one because no one showed up so we couldn't start the others
guess thats what happens when you have peeople in charge who barely play the game they are running a fansite for!
(not talking about mike or matt) but still, more could be done... i know over at hffm one admin has a maze, one is building an auto game for them and there are others doing other things lol.....over at habbox..nothing. they rely on their users to do everything for them, and you can barely get a thanks lol
I agree, more could be done and I do think it is making more of a push on Habbo that we'll reap the benefits so I'm concentrating my efforts on that. I'm currently making a habbox lottery room with a small 1c grabber that I hope to make a system so that management can also use it along with a unique service (that I won't go into detail right now cos I haven't worked them all out yet) that will hopefully put Habbox back on the map in the same way hx rare values used to have a monopoly on Habbo (and provided free publicity).
Aiden
02-04-2013, 04:03 PM
Maybe Habbox needs to start to become more like other fansites? Or stel a few ideas... otherwise we can stay like this! I like this community anyways (some of it)! ;) And us younger members are silly billys, you have to forgive us? ;)
Matthew
02-04-2013, 04:04 PM
Yeah he does, but he isn't really active is what i'm talking about, and again he is just an normal user who put habbox on their room name. Not someone who actually has a role at habbox lol
yeah I see what you mean.
I remember Nixt used to have a habbox casino and it was insanely popular if I remember.. I'm not saying it'll be the same now but surely we need to give habbox rooms on habbo another good go?
I agree, more could be done and I do think it is making more of a push on Habbo that we'll reap the benefits so I'm concentrating my efforts on that. I'm currently making a habbox lottery room with a small 1c grabber that I hope to make a system so that management can also use it along with a unique service (that I won't go into detail right now cos I haven't worked them all out yet) that will hopefully put Habbox back on the map in the same way hx rare values used to have a monopoly on Habbo (and provided free publicity).
Habbox - Come Give Us Your Coins
That should be the motto since there are lots of things you offer that cost users coins and have very slim chances of winning them back, just so you can fund departments...... lol
You should offer free tickets for "x" amount of posts w.e
Absently
02-04-2013, 04:13 PM
Habbox - Come Give Us Your Coins
That should be the motto since there are lots of things you offer that cost users coins and have very slim chances of winning them back, just so you can fund departments...... lol
You should offer free tickets for "x" amount of posts w.e
GRAHAM STOP STEALING MINE AND PHILS IDEAS LMAO
ot: there's not enough on client to bring in new members, which really needs to be used. like graham said, popular games need to be created in a hope to gain more users, or a chat room which advertises habbox, something like a club idk.
habbox should make something like death run, and i don't mean someone do it for xxmattgxx or something, i mean ideally management should have a room. death runs could be/ are better than stuff like runs with many rooms, as there's just one room and people will stay in that one, putting habbox's name on the room thing. we also need better events rooms and LETS ALL BE NICE
FlyingJesus
02-04-2013, 04:22 PM
I don't think it's even just a case of not enough representatives on the client - it's more that those who do go on aren't approachable and are almost universally more interested in having a chat with their event bffs than actually promoting the site at all. It wasn't even all that long ago that it was suggested that event hosts and such should be actively attempting to get people to sign up rather than just run an event and try making the room popular, but I've been pretty active recently (cool kid I know) and haven't seen this from anyone at all.
AgnesIO
02-04-2013, 04:34 PM
Habbox has been dying for years in all seriousness.
Our events are not helped when other fansites can make awesome event rooms as they buy thrones on the black market, then Habbox fires any of its staff who do this. Not saying the other fansites are right to do so, but you will never beat them if the playing field is not level.
Sadly, the only way you will get new users is through popular events on habbo - and if the other fansites events are more popular, you will never get as many new users as said other fansites.
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I don't think it's even just a case of not enough representatives on the client - it's more that those who do go on aren't approachable and are almost universally more interested in having a chat with their event bffs than actually promoting the site at all. It wasn't even all that long ago that it was suggested that event hosts and such should be actively attempting to get people to sign up rather than just run an event and try making the room popular, but I've been pretty active recently (cool kid I know) and haven't seen this from anyone at all.
I have been to like one event in 6 months, and the one I went to the event organiser was just licking some other people in the "staff" bit - whilst they returned the favour. So in that respect, I totally agree about the chatting with their event bffs bit.
Nistez
02-04-2013, 05:17 PM
you're not gonna get an audience if there is nothing habbox client related..which at the moment there isn't
i think i went to like 5 events last week and managed to play one because no one showed up so we couldn't start the others
guess thats what happens when you have peeople in charge who barely play the game they are running a fansite for!
(not talking about mike or matt) but still, more could be done... i know over at hffm one admin has a maze, one is building an auto game for them and there are others doing other things lol.....over at habbox..nothing. they rely on their users to do everything for them, and you can barely get a thanks lol
Agreed. It's not about who's on the boards, it's about the bad decisions their making. The management should be more active and more enthusiastic. If they're not Habbox is going to disappear like all the other old fansites that are simply closing their doors right now
Unfortunately it seems that habbox is stuck in the pre-merge era and refuses to move along with the fast-paced changes habbo and other fansites have gone through to better cater to users' wants and needs. Rare values is the only real gem from the past that is even mildly worth holding onto, other features need constant revision.
Yes, there are rooms sponsored by habbox, but we have nothing 'HABBOX OFFICIAL' -- nothing concrete that can be relied upon to continue to draw members in, just a few rooms with habbox in the tags and sometimes a short wired shoutout to habbox.com that (if the room is popular enough, which it would need to be to fit the purpose) is buried by chat in seconds.
Habboxlive and the events team need to focus on bringing weekly shows/events back to the table. Give users something to look forward to. Not that great maze thing though, that was a travesty - more along the lines of The Vault, that was pretty cool.
The habbox lottery is all well and good guys but come on now, everybody knows that it's really just a money making venture... and a coin grabber putting habbox back on the map? This is not 2007, coin grabbers aren't exactly mind blowing, people get bored of them after a short while and stop going. IIRC Mathew even owned a coin grabber which was never really overflowing with guests. Hopefully the undisclosed idea is at least a little more innovative.
It seems to me that the current management team are drifting away from habbo and into the adult world, some having to delegate some tasks, even to non-staff members. :P @sex (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=101389); didn't even get a thankyou for his part in the fansite frenzy until he pointed it out! Habbox are lucky to have such loyal members.
ALSO if habbox is so skint that you can't fund big beautiful events then perhaps it's time to consider the black market. Buying isn't against the habbo way, just selling! and Chris, I know you're just the forum manager, but it'd be nice to see you interacting with your community on the client a little more. :) That goes for Myke too (the one that doesn't do anything, not community mike).
I didn't know Matt resigned and you took his place.
See above for one reason.
THIS IS EXACTLY THE REASON WHY YOU DON'T HAVE NEW MEMBERS AND/OR THEY DON'T STICK AROUND FOR LONG!
It's like banging my head against a ******* brick wall. Idiots. Cretins.
xxMATTGxx
02-04-2013, 05:27 PM
I am confused by the first reply to the thread. I'm I missing something here? (Travelling home atm)
Nistez
02-04-2013, 05:29 PM
THIS IS EXACTLY THE REASON WHY YOU DON'T HAVE NEW MEMBERS AND/OR THEY DON'T STICK AROUND FOR LONG!
It's like banging my head against a ******* brick wall. Idiots. Cretins.
Yeah man don't worry, I'm not gonna leave the forum just because the other people are not smart enough to understand the topic as a whole.
I didn't know Matt resigned and you took his place.
See above for one reason.
Yeah man don't worry, I'm not gonna leave the forum just because the other people are not smart enough to understand the topic as a whole.
It's a good job but you see where the problem lies here, right?
The first reply was a sarcastic one, adding nothing and you know, if you wasn't as screwed on as you are you might've taken it the wrong way and never come back.
Whoever it was should be sacked.
Nistez
02-04-2013, 05:32 PM
I am confused by the two first replies to the thread. I'm I missing something here? (Travelling home atm)
Yeah I'm also pretty confused...
mrwoooooooo
02-04-2013, 05:33 PM
I didn't know Matt resigned and you took his place.
See above for one reason.
may as well get rid of the feedback forum (h)
Nistez
02-04-2013, 05:37 PM
It's a good job but you see where the problem lies here, right?
The first reply was a sarcastic one, adding nothing and you know, if you wasn't as screwed on as you are you might've taken it the wrong way and never come back.
Whoever it was should be sacked.
Yeah I totally see it! I agree with you 100%
Those kind of people should be given a warning and if it happens again they should be banned.
xxMATTGxx
02-04-2013, 06:05 PM
I didn't know Matt resigned and you took his place.
You were probably taking the piss by posting this but unfortunately for you - This is the sort of stuff that actually affects the activity of the forum. Like I have mentioned in the other thread. Habbox needs to become more acceptable to these type of threads or people who are the younger generation and also people who may troll here and now. We have all done it but it is one of the main reasons why other fansites are doing better than us at this moment in time.
I'll base my response on your Habboxlive comment on the basis that thats what I am kind of good at and I don't know much about other habbox departments haha
Habboxlive isnt receiving very good results at the moments, and we are going to find out why and try and change this. I am not going to continue to use the reason of TH and HFFM using un-unique stats to make themselves look more popular, even though that is a factor its not the main reasons behind it.
We have a lot of things we need to work on, and at the same time we are doing a lot of working. Unfortunately we dont have a lot of events and giveaway in comparisons to TH or HFFM, and we have some brilliant events planned for over easter and for the lead up to HxSS to hopefully get some more listeners from the client. HabboxLive as a department is still recovering from a big knock, and is improving bit by bit. We have got a lot of work to do of course!
What scares me a little is the fact that we have so little on-client events in comparison to the other fansites and that certainly isnt helping with activity in any of the Habbox sites. We have no proper on-client advertising network apart from HxHD.
Maybe Habbox needs to start to become more like other fansites? Or stel a few ideas...
We will then join the bunch of fansites with no real unique qualities, and I wouldnt personally want to steal any ideas from some of the other fansites, no offence any fansites out there haha
FlyingJesus
02-04-2013, 06:15 PM
In an event right now, lo and behold the host is saying nothing other than the basic "welcom 2 event do u no rule" script and then there are a couple of regulars chatting through the game and no interaction at all with non-members
Nistez
02-04-2013, 06:17 PM
We will then join the bunch of fansites with no real unique qualities, and I wouldnt personally want to steal any ideas from some of the other fansites, no offence any fansites out there haha
You're right, you shouldn't steal other website's content. Habbox needs to be more original and I believe that the board is trying to do so. If it continues like this, Habbox will most likely have more audience.
MKR&*42
02-04-2013, 06:23 PM
THIS IS EXACTLY THE REASON WHY YOU DON'T HAVE NEW MEMBERS AND/OR THEY DON'T STICK AROUND FOR LONG!
It's like banging my head against a ******* brick wall. Idiots. Cretins.
That's exactly what I thought when I saw their posts lmao..
well it has been said already. u are a habbo fansite and u reach new users through client ta da.
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like just by chance im at a hffm event now and the room is full with 50 people.....
Chippiewill
02-04-2013, 07:32 PM
On the topic of events, I agree that the situation is pretty terrible.
It is not exactly uncommon to turn up to an event and see the EO has invited a bunch of their friends in to the host area (I'm not referring here to habboxvip btw, specifically the host area) and are just having a conversation with them whilst only occasionally taking a quick break to continue the event. EOs ought to be spending their time trying to converse with people they don't know, particularly people who aren't Habbox regulars. EOs (And HxHD staff) should bear in mind they they are front-line reps of Habbox and need to be doing their absolute best to not only engage other players but also to make sure that they are aware of and convince them to use other Habbox services like the forum, radio, rare values, news, wiki and competitions.
Frankly inter-departmental promotion is abysmal. The only times I hear Habboxlive advertise the forum is when the DJ actually actively uses the forum. The forum itself really does little to promote anything, other than the community notice board (Which is easily ignored) there really is no promotion of anything else.
I cannot myself recall a single event where any of Habbox.com, Habboxlive.com, Habboxforum.com or Habboxwiki.com have been mentioned more than once, in fact of the only time that I can actually remember them being mentioned or promoted it was only as an after thought after the event was basically already over.
AgnesIO
02-04-2013, 08:12 PM
habbox should make something like death run, and i don't mean someone do it for xxmattgxx or something, i mean ideally management should have a room. death runs could be/ are better than stuff like runs with many rooms, as there's just one room and people will stay in that one, putting habbox's name on the room thing. we also need better events rooms and LETS ALL BE NICE
I've offered to put furniture down in rooms before (in managements rooms) - not giving more stuff to Hx though, must have given a lot in the past - but that was to be spread out amongst users, not for managements back pockets when they close the event lol I understand that management are worried about it then being picked up randomly.
A death run which requires forum membership would be good - as in not at the start, but later on. Obviously joining the habbox group would be necessary too.
Samantha
02-04-2013, 08:46 PM
I've offered to put furniture down in rooms before (in managements rooms) - not giving more stuff to Hx though, must have given a lot in the past - but that was to be spread out amongst users, not for managements back pockets when they close the event lol I understand that management are worried about it then being picked up randomly.
A death run which requires forum membership would be good - as in not at the start, but later on. Obviously joining the habbox group would be necessary too.
That's the thing, many times I see win a rooms done or big events such as HxEE and it's usually always staff members winning, when I began at Habbox in 2009 I joined when HxEE was in session and the 3 top people (Urnuph, me and Jhazmine18) were not staff and the first staff member was about 5th in the table. I don't think we should ban staff or higher staff entering events or anything but sometimes give others a chance.
I remember I had a Habbox Telephrase Maze for news (YES A CONTENT DEPARTMENT) whilst various community ones had nothing, yeah I didn't get many entries but it was something extra someone could win each week. Again there was no thanks or anything. We need to constantly advertise on Habbo, if you get banned just appeal it or use a clone - it can be done.
You were probably taking the piss by posting this but unfortunately for you - This is the sort of stuff that actually affects the activity of the forum. Like I have mentioned in the other thread. Habbox needs to become more acceptable to these type of threads or people who are the younger generation and also people who may troll here and now. We have all done it but it is one of the main reasons why other fansites are doing better than us at this moment in time.
The same happened in the mod forum and the person got jumped on. Not sure how this thread is any different from that? :S
The same happened in the mod forum and the person got jumped on. Not sure how this thread is any different from that? :S
It's not, and that's the problem... It seems to be the attitude of a lot of the older users. Better to keep this type of banter that might be misconstrued by outsiders out of public view though :)
FlyingJesus
02-04-2013, 08:57 PM
The same happened in the mod forum and the person got jumped on. Not sure how this thread is any different from that? :S
"Someone else was abhorrently dismissive of a new member's ideas so therefore I, as a moderator of the forum, should also be allowed to"
GoldenMerc
02-04-2013, 09:00 PM
Not sure why everyones jumping the boat on Jord, its not like members of management have ever been rude to forum members, new or old.
"Someone else was abhorrently dismissive of a new member's ideas so therefore I, as a moderator of the forum, should also be allowed to"
No not at all. It's just funny how something is acceptable in one forum, but not somewhere else.
AgnesIO
02-04-2013, 09:11 PM
Not sure why everyones jumping the boat on Jord, its not like members of management have ever been rude to forum members, new or old.
It is more the irony that Jord posted in this thread putting the user down, when this is one of the reasons Habbox fails.
Rachel
02-04-2013, 09:14 PM
Okay, most of you have noticed that the forum has been having pretty low activity. There aren't many people online and new threads take ages to appear. Thing is, it's not only the Forum. HabboxLive has had pretty low audience as well. Why is habbox in such a bad period? People still go to official fansites but their favorite option hasn't been Habbox lately. Other fansites such as HFFM are getting more audience than us and that bothers me. The board should take action, but we should also help?
What should we do so that Habbox doesn't go to an eternal hiatus?
You do realise that some of us are 18+ and goes to college/university in real life and you can't expect us to be here 24/24 and 7 days a week online. Maybe you have no job yet or have huge studies so you may have more free time.
The admins cannot do anything towards users being busy. Real life comes first just so you know.
GoldenMerc
02-04-2013, 09:15 PM
It is more the irony that Jord posted in this thread putting the user down, when this is one of the reasons Habbox fails.
One reason, but is it just Jord who likes to have a bit of banter (that may well harm Habbox)
Theres also many other factors.
We will then join the bunch of fansites with no real unique qualities, and I wouldnt personally want to steal any ideas from some of the other fansites, no offence any fansites out there haha
Tell me, what unique qualities (other than rare values) does Habbox have?
Rachel
02-04-2013, 09:18 PM
Tell me, what unique qualities (other than rare values) does Habbox have?
We have great staff/users unlike other fansite .(no offence) Most staff/users at other fansites are immature who cannot respect each other.
We also have great radio, events etc who works very hard.
GoldenMerc
02-04-2013, 09:19 PM
Tell me, what unique qualities (other than rare values) does Habbox have?
Couldn't agree more.
Other than a reliable fansite, Habbox has nothing to offer than HFFM doesn't. I mean they are consistently doing events etc and out doing us in every department. I feel Chris has made a good move recently with the tokens, hopefully he carries on thinking about the forum, Than himself and we may be +1 up!
Aiden
02-04-2013, 09:24 PM
Couldn't agree more.
Other than a reliable fansite, Habbox has nothing to offer than HFFM doesn't. I mean they are consistently doing events etc and out doing us in every department. I feel Chris has made a good move recently with the tokens, hopefully he carries on thinking about the forum, Than himself and we may be +1 up!
As great as the forum is, extra plugins don't make people join and make Habbox more active? Its a great start though. ;)
Tell me, what unique qualities (other than rare values) does Habbox have?
a radio that focuses on community not listeners,
a good strong team of mostly genuine people who are dedicated and focused on their goal.
multiple annual events that happen every year without fail,
a forum where most of them can hold a thread without some complete idiot popping up with a comment about how cool they are.
a management team that care more about their staff and the quality of their general department than the popularity you get from the whole shenanigan
i could list more, its not all about what you see on the outside its whats inside.
this suddenly turned into the soppiest reply, but i honestly dont care. :)
It should be about what we see on the outside though, it's the fans, the members, the listeners, the users that you need to be appealing to and not yourselves in some little ego boosting competition, right?
By the way, I love how when I posted that, instantly the staff came to its defence. You're doomed when the staff can't even tell it's failing.
Seriously though, how many threads like this has been made over the past few months. I'm surprised it's not against the rules yet as the exact same thing comes out of it.
Activity can't be blamed on anyone or anything. There's a ton of reasons people don't use us anymore and nothing can be done to about it.
I guess my first reply was a bit unnecessary. But most people on the forum are sick of these threads by now, its blatant not much/nothing can be done to improve. The thread just angered me instantly when a member with around 10 posts comes on and says the site is dead.
a forum where most of them can hold a thread without some complete idiot popping up with a comment about how cool they are.
clearly you havent met flyingjesus
Aiden
02-04-2013, 09:30 PM
It should be about what we see on the outside though, it's the fans, the members, the listeners, the users that you need to be appealing to and not yourselves in some little ego boosting competition, right?
Well all the current members are the fans, community and listeners... Habbox has grabbed them and go them stuck! Now we need to invade the lands of Habbo and attack other fansites for fans! Or just start being more interactive?
clearly you havent met flyingjesus
one of the reasons why i said most and not all x
David
02-04-2013, 09:33 PM
multiple annual events that happen every year without fail,
down time?
down time?
how did i know someone was going to say that
Seriously though, how many threads like this has been made over the past few months. I'm surprised it's not against the rules yet as the exact same thing comes out of it.
Activity can't be blamed on anyone or anything. There's a ton of reasons people don't use us anymore and nothing can be done to about it.
I guess my first reply was a bit unnecessary. But most people on the forum are sick of these threads by now, its blatant not much/nothing can be done to improve. The thread just angered me instantly when a member with around 10 posts comes on and says the site is dead.
Your attitude towards this amazes me.
Well all the current members are the fans, community and listeners... Habbox has grabbed them and go them stuck! Now we need to invade the lands of Habbo and attack other fansites for fans! Or just start being more interactive?
More likely out of habit than anything else, like most of the forum members here come here out of habit, because they've done so for so long they've built relationships with other members and grown fond of the community. Others, however, haven't and have fled because there are alternatives out there that are better than this in many, many ways.
I think it will take a lot of time but a hell of a lot more focus needs shifting towards Habbo. As frightening as that may be for the majority of the staff here, Habbox is a HABBO fansite so I don't think anybody should be working for Habbox unless the regularly play Habbo and interact with the members (excluding coders/essential staff). That's the start. That's what you need to do. As a team, as a fansite, you need to bring the activity back and the way of doing that is NOT rewarding current members with stupid points systems, it's getting NEW members to register, take an interest in what Habbox is all about and getting involved in the community.
How come everyone is blind to this? Or am I just wrong?
Aiden
02-04-2013, 09:40 PM
Your attitude towards this amazes me.
More likely out of habit than anything else, like most of the forum members here come here out of habit, because they've done so for so long they've built relationships with other members and grown fond of the community. Others, however, haven't and have fled because there are alternatives out there that are better than this in many, many ways.
I think it will take a lot of time but a hell of a lot more focus needs shifting towards Habbo. As frightening as that may be for the majority of the staff here, Habbox is a HABBO fansite so I don't think anybody should be working for Habbox unless the regularly play Habbo and interact with the members (excluding coders/essential staff). That's the start. That's what you need to do. As a team, as a fansite, you need to bring the activity back and the way of doing that is NOT rewarding current members with stupid points systems, it's getting NEW members to register, take an interest in what Habbox is all about and getting involved in the community.
How come everyone is blind to this? Or am I just wrong?
We are all in denial, sorry. ;) But i agree that some of us are attached to the forum and the people! But I think adding new things helps keep the community that's here a live. It may not be the best, but that's what we are atm.
Maybe Habbox should work closer with other fansites to bring in new members? Most new members at Habbox are from other fansites because other fansites get there new members from all these giveaways and events. So if Habbox worked closer with other fansites surely the word of Habbox being still alive would go out? :) (Never ask me for ideas, I suck lol)
Your attitude towards this amazes me.
More likely out of habit than anything else, like most of the forum members here come here out of habit, because they've done so for so long they've built relationships with other members and grown fond of the community. Others, however, haven't and have fled because there are alternatives out there that are better than this in many, many ways.
I think it will take a lot of time but a hell of a lot more focus needs shifting towards Habbo. As frightening as that may be for the majority of the staff here, Habbox is a HABBO fansite so I don't think anybody should be working for Habbox unless the regularly play Habbo and interact with the members (excluding coders/essential staff). That's the start. That's what you need to do. As a team, as a fansite, you need to bring the activity back and the way of doing that is NOT rewarding current members with stupid points systems, it's getting NEW members to register, take an interest in what Habbox is all about and getting involved in the community.
How come everyone is blind to this? Or am I just wrong?
I'm just speaking the truth, most other people obviously can't admit it.
You may well be sick of the threads but some of us think there's still a glimmer hope for habbox so want to give constructive feedback. Why are you volunteering as a member of staff if you're so anti-progression :S
I'm just speaking the truth, most other people obviously can't admit it.
Activity can be blamed on people like you essentially telling new members, when they come up with an idea, to **** off. Solely. On you.
P.S - exactly what Kyle said.
GoldenMerc
02-04-2013, 09:47 PM
lets just merge with hffm guys
lets just merge with hffm guys
lets just not do anything
You may well be sick of the threads but some of us think there's still a glimmer hope for habbox so want to give constructive feedback. Why are you volunteering as a member of staff if you're so anti-progression :S
Habbo is a lot different from years ago, the user amount is nowhere near what it was back then. Habbox only really gains users from Habbo. If Habbo is fighting a loosing battle, Habbox is also going to be affected. Yes small things may increase the activity but we still rely on Habbo, and Habbo is just fighting a loosing battle.
It's just the harsh truth i'm afraid as much as we all hate it. As for volunteering for staff - it's because I enjoy it, and I would LOVE for Habbo/Habbox to be the way it was back in 2006/2007. It still leads back to that this is just the harsh truth and we should all accept things are not going to be the way they where years back.
GoldenMerc
02-04-2013, 09:52 PM
lets just not do anything
isn't that what we are doing atm? (except forum)
I mean we've had the same HxL layout since 2009 or something... and Habbox.com has such bad coding its not even worth visiting
David
02-04-2013, 09:54 PM
isn't that what we are doing atm? (except forum)
I mean we've had the same HxL layout since 2009 or something... and Habbox.com has such bad coding its not even worth visiting
a new layout would have been made but then someone decided no **** it we'll merge with v777
think Chris; started making one
Habbo is a lot different from years ago, the user amount is nowhere near what it was back then. Habbox only really gains users from Habbo. If Habbo is fighting a loosing battle, Habbox is also going to be affected. Yes small things may increase the activity but we still rely on Habbo, and Habbo is just fighting a loosing battle.
It's just the harsh truth i'm afraid as much as we all hate it. As for volunteering for staff - it's because I enjoy it, and I would LOVE for Habbo/Habbox to be the way it was back in 2006/2007. It still leads back to that this is just the harsh truth and we should all accept things are not going to be the way they where years back.
Tell me, when you're talking amongst friends and you get into a debate are you always right?
Tell me, when you're talking amongst friends and you get into a debate are you always right?
I just know i'm right about this topic :)
i think people need to stop blaming the lack of activity on habbo when other fansites have thriving community both on and off client... but jord is right, this thread has been made so many times before and there is nothing to show for all the previous ones
Zelda
02-04-2013, 10:30 PM
I know people will disagree but really there isn't a great deal of people left to pull in that will stay imo, most other fansites seem to have claimed most of the people anyway now and it'll be hard to steal them off them without very good ideas (not saying there isn't any cause there definitely is and hopefully I can tackle that in this.) ? no-one who isnt already at fansites shows a great deal of interest in these sort of things anymore, they either just want to rp, do mazes or deal or other stuff like that. And I do feel even though we are driving away these "noobs", they aren't super likely to stay anyway once they do join up for a bit, sure they'll stay for a little while but there will always be people getting fed up with them and driving them out) Obviously we can get small improvements in numbers and stuff like news radio and events probably are the areas where we could be getting a lot more people as they have more interest for most players of habbo nowadays, who would probably class things such as forums as "boring" or "pointless", even half the staff seem to think that about the forum tbh, even remember a few staff back when I was in rv with 0 post count.......
Events is definitely something to tackle though if we really do want to increase the members. The problem lies in why we are getting so few other people except people who are already regulars attending our events. Obviously the main ones mentioned in the thread already in reality, not enough events being hosted, not enough attention by hosts, not great events rooms, but also probably most importantly the types of events hosted. I keep mentioning about how the events that are being hosted are constantly the same luck games and alex has said he is doing stuff about it but in all honesty I really haven't seen much of an improvement. There is no wonder when you consider the amount of events such as trivia, multitasking and other more interactive games as well as more variety in places such as hffm why they actually have much better turnouts, and a system like what they have with rewarding hosts for doing more unique events should really be put in place, such as a seperate leaderboard or something or heavy benefits in their leaderboard for hosting unique events, cause that is really what draws in the people.
Permanent events could really do quite well as well, as I know people like me and geo have said to dragga plenty of times to make his gladiator game permanent, games like this which do actually get really full and are more unique should be really promoted, and permanent games would be great towards having the name of habbox put across. The idea of a death run is also really good and I personally would be really happy to see something like that introduced, and the idea of 1 room is especially important with bringing the name forwards on the title. I would personally be very happy to work on one myself as i'm sure some other people would be, and I believe all sorts of permanent games like these really are the way forwards.
Weekly events should also really make a bigger return. Yes prime culprit of the great maze speaking here and I know it wasn't great, but there are all sorts of things that really should be done more of. I know me and Jazz have been planning stuff to do with like news related weekly shows for hxl, and this really does show all sorts of new unique ideas can be brought about, and these are the sort of things that will be keeping people here.
Finally on the last topic I personally want to talk about that could make a large impact before this becomes too undertaker like, Ltd valuing. In my honest opinion it's the way forward for this site, rare values could definitely become what it once was if we could just knuckle down and get some method of sorting this out, there isn't that many anyway so a list of all the numbers or just general number ranges with some suggested values could really benefit, obviously valuing stuff like the very best numbers would be silly but we can definitely provide updated general values and considering the amount of people completely unsure of values this would create extra interest.
Samantha
02-04-2013, 10:46 PM
Janice; is right, mainly about the last point, fansites or Wikis whatever have already got LTD values and then we're there just like 'oh we have to wait for v7' no wonder people think Rare Values is past it because we can't add anything we want, we've had a broken system for ages and that was since David was here as I remember him blaming me for stuff when it was his coding that messed it up. If you're not going to bother pushing v7 then give us the coding requests we want and actually make changes to the main site, it's worse than a lot of things I've seen. The only thing I see updated on Habbox are the pages and that's down to content staff not the people who should be updating it as often as they can.
Events - come on guys, I left the department the other month and there were talks of weekly events coming back, you had Martin's bingo for a few week Chippiewill;) and then it ended.
I for one would love a weekly event as long as I wasn't in the department, I think it could help having members of staff like myself and other managers doing events, didn't cameron; do some or did he cancel all those.
HabboxLive, I think are improving or have been recently, I witnessed hardly any slots with 'No Dj' and I think there was only one today from 23:00-12:00 so that's an improvement. The Dj said 60 listeners for a Gold Bar competition and that's the things we also need. Not doing a win a room once every so often but just little additions and the thing is it doesn't need to be expensive.
I've probably gone on a fair bit but at the end of the day we need to put in the effort and frankly not everyone does, some people in departments can work enough for 2 people in said department, it shouldn't be like that - the motivation is down and I've witnessed this, people think it's boring and people are growing up we need to advertise to that younger market as they're also the future of Habbox. We're turning into HFFM like they were years ago when they were rude to new members and frankly if we're going to be like that I doubt many will stay.
FlyingJesus
02-04-2013, 10:50 PM
Hi I'm cool
Edited by Matts (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't post pointlessly!
Samantha
02-04-2013, 10:51 PM
Why not make an auction room, they seem to have increased in popularity recently?
Zelda
02-04-2013, 10:52 PM
Why not make an auction room, they seem to have increased in popularity recently?
perfect to also promote ltd rare values ;)
Mr-Trainor
02-04-2013, 10:56 PM
@Janice (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=88462); is right, mainly about the last point, fansites or Wikis whatever have already got LTD values and then we're there just like 'oh we have to wait for v7' no wonder people think Rare Values is past it because we can't add anything we want, we've had a broken system for ages and that was since David was here as I remember him blaming me for stuff when it was his coding that messed it up. If you're not going to bother pushing v7 then give us the coding requests we want and actually make changes to the main site, it's worse than a lot of things I've seen. The only thing I see updated on Habbox are the pages and that's down to content staff not the people who should be updating it as often as they can.
Events - come on guys, I left the department the other month and there were talks of weekly events coming back, you had Martin's bingo for a few week @Chippiewill (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=40007);) and then it ended.
I for one would love a weekly event as long as I wasn't in the department, I think it could help having members of staff like myself and other managers doing events, didn't @cameron (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=64841); do some or did he cancel all those.
HabboxLive, I think are improving or have been recently, I witnessed hardly any slots with 'No Dj' and I think there was only one today from 23:00-12:00 so that's an improvement. The Dj said 60 listeners for a Gold Bar competition and that's the things we also need. Not doing a win a room once every so often but just little additions and the thing is it doesn't need to be expensive.
I've probably gone on a fair bit but at the end of the day we need to put in the effort and frankly not everyone does, some people in departments can work enough for 2 people in said department, it shouldn't be like that - the motivation is down and I've witnessed this, people think it's boring and people are growing up we need to advertise to that younger market as they're also the future of Habbox. We're turning into HFFM like they were years ago when they were rude to new members and frankly if we're going to be like that I doubt many will stay.
Every day I say to myself, right I'll make that feedback thread about rare values :P. There's so many problems with the current system, and even before v6 was publically released, me and Dan had a list of features/fixes - and almost all of them have never been implemented. And after re-requesting them at least twice, it just seems as though rare values isn't a priority and isn't being given as much attention as it needs. We're definitely missing out with not having LTDs, seeing as they can't currently be traded in the marketplace - an LTD values section could potentially be hugely popular.
Oh and the most annoying thing is how the solution to everyone's problems is 'wait for v7 and it will be fixed' :P.
Why not make an auction room, they seem to have increased in popularity recently?
I've made one that I'd happily make a sponsored room but Mike never replied to my IM message :'(.
FlyingJesus
02-04-2013, 11:01 PM
Not sure if certain naysayers have noticed but this thread and most past ones are full of suggestions and ideas to improve, some obviously not all that helpful or feasible but some that are really simple and should be the norm (like "community" staff actually building a community and interacting with it), and just saying "WELL THIS HAS COME UP BEFORE" isn't a valid negation if all suggestions are just ignored
ps I'm cool
Nistez
02-04-2013, 11:05 PM
You do realise that some of us are 18+ and goes to college/university in real life and you can't expect us to be here 24/24 and 7 days a week online. Maybe you have no job yet or have huge studies so you may have more free time.
The admins cannot do anything towards users being busy. Real life comes first just so you know.
Mate, I know that. I'm just trying to help over here. I'm not "digging for staff" or whatever you think. It's just that Habbox is in a bad period and most people are not doing anything to help out. If they don't help out Habbox is eventually going to have to shut down!
You see the problem right?
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Seriously though, how many threads like this has been made over the past few months. I'm surprised it's not against the rules yet as the exact same thing comes out of it.
Activity can't be blamed on anyone or anything. There's a ton of reasons people don't use us anymore and nothing can be done to about it.
I guess my first reply was a bit unnecessary. But most people on the forum are sick of these threads by now, its blatant not much/nothing can be done to improve. The thread just angered me instantly when a member with around 10 posts comes on and says the site is dead.
Unnecessary? This is a feedback forum dude. They want users to post threads like this so it can help... And plus, that doesn't give you the right to be rude to some users just because they're newbies you know. I really expected more from a Forum Moderator...
You were probably taking the piss by posting this but unfortunately for you - This is the sort of stuff that actually affects the activity of the forum. Like I have mentioned in the other thread. Habbox needs to become more acceptable to these type of threads or people who are the younger generation and also people who may troll here and now. We have all done it but it is one of the main reasons why other fansites are doing better than us at this moment in time.
You absolute hypocrite.
I didn't know you where forum manager
is what you said yesterday when I posted in the mod forums!
Nistez
02-04-2013, 11:17 PM
Ok, what is this? A Moderators fight? I'm just trying to improve Habbox by giving my opinion and I get all kinds of answer. Mods dissing me, moderators arguing with other members of the staff, and etc etc. It seems like the reason why Habbox is failing so epically lately is because the team can't get along. We're not here to fight, for christ's sake, we're here to find solutions, so stop.
You absolute hypocrite.
is what you said yesterday when I posted in the mod forums!
leakin staff forums FIRED
GoldenMerc
02-04-2013, 11:23 PM
leakin staff forums FIRED
Think Matts did, but he won't get fired. Hes prob still finding out what Chris ate the previous few nights...
Mate, I know that. I'm just trying to help over here. I'm not "digging for staff" or whatever you think. It's just that Habbox is in a bad period and most people are not doing anything to help out. If they don't help out Habbox is eventually going to have to shut down!
You see the problem right?
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Unnecessary? This is a feedback forum dude. They want users to post threads like this so it can help... And plus, that doesn't give you the right to be rude to some users just because they're newbies you know. I really expected more from a Forum Moderator...
I'm not saying the thread is unnecessary or that this isn't a feedback. It's just the sheer amount of times this has been posted and the fact nothing will come out of it. I've not been rude at all, just strongly stated my point :)
Finally on the last topic I personally want to talk about that could make a large impact before this becomes too undertaker like, Ltd valuing. In my honest opinion it's the way forward for this site, rare values could definitely become what it once was if we could just knuckle down and get some method of sorting this out, there isn't that many anyway so a list of all the numbers or just general number ranges with some suggested values could really benefit, obviously valuing stuff like the very best numbers would be silly but we can definitely provide updated general values and considering the amount of people completely unsure of values this would create extra interest.
LTD rares and factors of 1c (e.g. 3 for 1c) are the way forward
FlyingJesus
02-04-2013, 11:39 PM
You absolute hypocrite.
is what you said yesterday when I posted in the mod forums!
Telling a member of staff not to assume more importance than their role actually dictates (in a staff-only area where such things are supposed to be discussed no less) isn't the same as belittling a new member who's expressing a desire to see Hx do better
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It's just the sheer amount of times this has been posted and the fact nothing will come out of it.
Nothing except a strong discussion which highlights several of Habbox's weak points and gives ideas on how they might be tackled
Telling a member of staff not to assume more importance than their role actually dictates (in a staff-only area where such things are supposed to be discussed no less) isn't the same as belittling a new member who's expressing a desire to see Hx do better
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Nothing except a strong discussion which highlights several of Habbox's weak points and gives ideas on how they might be tackled
Even with the weak points, nothing drastically changes the activity and never will.
FlyingJesus
02-04-2013, 11:43 PM
Because staff are unwilling to change their terrible attitudes, not because the ideas aren't valid
Nistez
02-04-2013, 11:44 PM
I'm not saying the thread is unnecessary or that this isn't a feedback. It's just the sheer amount of times this has been posted and the fact nothing will come out of it. I've not been rude at all, just strongly stated my point :)
Because staff are unwilling to change their terrible attitudes, not because the ideas aren't valid
EXACTLY
Because staff are unwilling to change their terrible attitudes, not because the ideas aren't valid
Wouldn't say its just staff
My point is - new skins, features etc aren't going to bring new users in. It will just increase activity for a little while then get repetitive and return back to normal.
FlyingJesus
02-04-2013, 11:53 PM
Wouldn't say its just staff
My point is - new skins, features etc aren't going to bring new users in. It will just increase activity for a little while then get repetitive and return back to normal.
Maybe not but since people are actually asking for more community involvement and staff-to-member interaction rather than a new skin that's not really a valid point
scottish
02-04-2013, 11:54 PM
wasn't v7 meant to come out like 4 years ago
Zelda
02-04-2013, 11:54 PM
LTD rares and factors of 1c (e.g. 3 for 1c) are the way forward
Oo Ye factors of 1c was always something I found ridiculously stupid to not have on there, though people are most likely gonna know it anyway so won't really make any diff to views, but Ye Would still make the site look better for a one time alteration to the relative items lmaoo
Mr-Trainor
02-04-2013, 11:55 PM
LTD rares and factors of 1c (e.g. 3 for 1c) are the way forward
Yep, can't count the number of times that's been asked for.
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Oo Ye factors of 1c was always something I found ridiculously stupid to not have on there, though people are most likely gonna know it anyway so won't really make any diff to views, but Ye Would still make the site look better for a one time alteration to the relative items lmaoo
It makes a huge different to the calculator on Habbox.com. Put in 50 freeze tiles and it'll tell you 50c. Actually, you could get them for maybe 5c - a huge difference :P.
Zelda
02-04-2013, 11:59 PM
Yep, can't count the number of times that's been asked for.
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It makes a huge different to the calculator on Habbox.com. Put in 50 freeze tiles and it'll tell you 50c. Actually, you could get them for maybe 5c - a huge difference :P.
Bit confused what that's got to do with what I said :( soz tired
But ye have to agree on that could be quite missleading for any new people who happen to use the site, and would be especially important if we started doing ltds to bring a lot of audience back to it
:G.M.T:
03-04-2013, 12:00 AM
The attitude of certain staff members is shocking.
A lot of people are stating there has been threads before this one suggesting the same ideas to try and improve the fansite on a whole, with nothing being done. You simply have to put it down to bad management.
How does the site expect to improve things with staff bickering. Work together as a team listen to other people's ideas, discuss them, trying to make something improve is definately better than doing nothing.
Mr-Trainor
03-04-2013, 12:02 AM
Bit confused what that's got to do with what I said :( soz tired
But ye have to agree on that could be quite missleading for any new people who happen to use the site, and would be especially important if we started doing ltds to bring a lot of audience back to it
Oh sorry, I thought your post said 'wont make a difference to values' :P. I'm also tired (A).
The attitude of certain staff members is shocking.
A lot of people are stating there has been threads before this one suggesting the same ideas to try and improve the fansite on a whole, with nothing being done. You simply have to put it down to bad management.
How does the site expect to improve things with staff bickering. Work together as a team listen to other people's ideas, discuss them, trying to make something improve is definately better than doing nothing.
Like stated above. Ideas and improvements may work for a limited amount of time then die, it won't drastically improve the activity on the forum and it most definitely won't stay like that. As much as I agree with there still being improvements and ideas shared, people are expecting the forum to instantly thrive and be like it was years go - this will never happen!
I don't think people can grasp that the forums activity won't be like it was many years ago, this is the harsh truth.
Personally can't see much staff bickering, more of a heated discussion on something some of us feel strongly about?
FlyingJesus
03-04-2013, 12:22 AM
Jord are you even reading the same thread as everyone else because no-one has at any point said that there's a quick fix or that activity can ever be like it was a few years back, and as for staff bickering you're a part of it so not sure how you're managing not to see it
GommeInc
03-04-2013, 12:24 AM
Seriously though, how many threads like this has been made over the past few months. I'm surprised it's not against the rules yet as the exact same thing comes out of it.
Activity can't be blamed on anyone or anything. There's a ton of reasons people don't use us anymore and nothing can be done to about it.
I guess my first reply was a bit unnecessary. But most people on the forum are sick of these threads by now, its blatant not much/nothing can be done to improve. The thread just angered me instantly when a member with around 10 posts comes on and says the site is dead.
Yet the member who stated it is right - people are uninterested , you agree with this (see bold). You're just attacking new members which is completely unacceptable - new members see the site with unbiased eyes, they can pick out problems instantly unlike the die-hard fans who are unaware of the stagnation. You may be sick of these threads, but they only appear because little is being done, and it seems one of the "tons of reasons" that people do not use Habbox any more is because of horrendous attitude towards new members - a problem that should be eradicated by, oh I don't know, sacking those who are in charge of moderating the forum who feel it appropriate to make snide remarks towards those with actual interests in the community, not because they find it "fun" :rolleyes:
Who are these people who are "sick of these threads"? It's a real concern if these threads keep appearing - they appear for a reason. Sweeping the problem under the carpet does not solve the problem, which seems to be what you are proposing management should do (see bold underline).
Loads of suggestions are being made on what to do about the obvious problem that Habbox has become stagnant, which completely debunks your views. If you think Habbox is just going to die and you feel no reason to be compelled to help with the situation - just quit. There clearly isn't anything here you're interested in - you offer no suggestions, your attitude towards the whole situation seems to be to let it die and you're only making yourself a grand example of one of many reasons that Habbox as a fansite is a cold, unwelcoming place.
As for the matter at hand - Habbo is the main source of users. It seems little is being done to get the Events team motivated to bring in new members. Habbox has a long history of groupies which seem really unhelpful. Obviously you're on Habbo to chat to friends as is intended by the service, but inviting friends to events (which wastes space) is completely unhelpful as they are a distraction from the actual event.
When I last used Habbo, half the fun was meeting new people and learning something about them. Has the Events Manager hired anti-social, boring users into the Events Team? Because if so, the Events Manager has a lot to answer for. The Events Department was incredibly good a few years ago with what they came up with - the events do not even have to have any outstanding features, new members could see that the staff and regular event goers are interesting and fun, and may feel compelled to get involved too. Take time to chat to new members and get them involved. It's how we all ended up here originally. The Events have been pretty poor lately, and if the Staff also show themselves to be lackluster in their approach then you're only adding to the problem.
There is no fix at all. Maybe limited time fixes, but nothing long term.
I'm not bickering at all, just trying to put my point across.
Nistez
03-04-2013, 12:41 AM
Let's just quit this.
:G.M.T:
03-04-2013, 01:00 AM
There is no fix at all. Maybe limited time fixes, but nothing long term.
I'm not bickering at all, just trying to put my point across.
Your attitude is one of the staff members I was highlighting. Never in all the years i've used Habbox have I seen somebody with such a negative attitude towards helping the fansite improve. Previous management would not have stood for your attitude. Put yourself into a working life situation here, your business has declined in customers because a competitor has better ideas and a better product than your company. Your boss sits you down and asks for ways to try improve the situation and your response would be that there is no fix, no point even trying, jump ship, your boss would be amazed and be printing out your p45 for you!
Maybe you've never been in that situation in your life but if your negative attitude here potrays you as who you really are then good luck in life.
You keep saying that their is no quick fix or fix at all. This is total nonsense! If you improve the numbers slightly you then have a platform to work on by suggesting ideas as to how to keep these new members around and then word would spread about Habbox.
Back in the day Habbox is all people talked about, trade rooms everybody used Habbox, majority of rooms on the popular rooms list quoted habbox in their name or room description. Yes the numbers have declined on habbo but not as much as they have declined on Habbox. I remember Habbox Help Desk used to be massive, everybody's source of information. Yes we have this habbo help tool but who's to say that the help desk can better that, with correct management.
I cannot comment on Habboxlive as of late as I do not listen to it but years ago when it first came around I was a devoted listener with the weekly shows and competitions making it a great catch, those weekly shows laid a platform for the unheard DJs to make a name for themselves and give them an opportunity to build their own fanbase by following on from these weekly shows.
Getting popularity back up is not an impossible task and by god it is no quick fix, but with appropriate management, staffing and welcoming community Habbox can become popular once more.
Your attitude is one of the staff members I was highlighting. Never in all the years i've used Habbox have I seen somebody with such a negative attitude towards helping the fansite improve. Previous management would not have stood for your attitude. Put yourself into a working life situation here, your business has declined in customers because a competitor has better ideas and a better product than your company. Your boss sits you down and asks for ways to try improve the situation and your response would be that there is no fix, no point even trying, jump ship, your boss would be amazed and be printing out your p45 for you!
Maybe you've never been in that situation in your life but if your negative attitude here potrays you as who you really are then good luck in life.
You keep saying that their is no quick fix or fix at all. This is total nonsense! If you improve the numbers slightly you then have a platform to work on by suggesting ideas as to how to keep these new members around and then word would spread about Habbox.
Back in the day Habbox is all people talked about, trade rooms everybody used Habbox, majority of rooms on the popular rooms list quoted habbox in their name or room description. Yes the numbers have declined on habbo but not as much as they have declined on Habbox. I remember Habbox Help Desk used to be massive, everybody's source of information. Yes we have this habbo help tool but who's to say that the help desk can better that, with correct management.
I cannot comment on Habboxlive as of late as I do not listen to it but years ago when it first came around I was a devoted listener with the weekly shows and competitions making it a great catch, those weekly shows laid a platform for the unheard DJs to make a name for themselves and give them an opportunity to build their own fanbase by following on from these weekly shows.
Getting popularity back up is not an impossible task and by god it is no quick fix, but with appropriate management, staffing and welcoming community Habbox can become popular once more.
I'm all for helping Habbox improve, why would I not be? :S
There is no 'competitor', Habbo is declining in activity thus having an effect on Habbox activity - making your situation invalid.
Personally i've had enough of all this "HABBOX IS DEAD", "IT IS RUBBISH COMPARED TO YEARS AGO" etc. Habbo has lost a good 70-80% of their users over the past 2 years or so, this will undoubtedly have an effect on the amount of users joining Habbox, amount listening to radio, attending events etc.
Again your referring to Habbox in the older days, it will never be like that again no matter how hard anyone tries. So don't expect it!
I wouldn't say its an impossible task either, everything is possible. Its just pretty much a near-impossible task. The only way Habbox will thrive again is if Habbo ups it's game and actually does something about it's own activity
Nistez
03-04-2013, 01:33 AM
I'm all for helping Habbox improve, why would I not be? :S
There is no 'competitor', Habbo is declining in activity thus having an effect on Habbox activity - making your situation invalid.
Personally i've had enough of all this "HABBOX IS DEAD", "IT IS RUBBISH COMPARED TO YEARS AGO" etc. Habbo has lost a good 70-80% of their users over the past 2 years or so, this will undoubtedly have an effect on the amount of users joining Habbox, amount listening to radio, attending events etc.
Again your referring to Habbox in the older days, it will never be like that again no matter how hard anyone tries. So don't expect it!
I wouldn't say its an impossible task either, everything is possible. Its just pretty much a near-impossible task. The only way Habbox will thrive again is if Habbo ups it's game and actually does something about it's own activity
Why are you even still part of the staff than? Your attitude is so pessimist and your thinking is so negative that I think it would be better if you quit the team.
:G.M.T:
03-04-2013, 01:36 AM
I'm all for helping Habbox improve, why would I not be? :S
There is no 'competitor', Habbo is declining in activity thus having an effect on Habbox activity - making your situation invalid.
Personally i've had enough of all this "HABBOX IS DEAD", "IT IS RUBBISH COMPARED TO YEARS AGO" etc. Habbo has lost a good 70-80% of their users over the past 2 years or so, this will undoubtedly have an effect on the amount of users joining Habbox, amount listening to radio, attending events etc.
Again your referring to Habbox in the older days, it will never be like that again no matter how hard anyone tries. So don't expect it!
I wouldn't say its an impossible task either, everything is possible. Its just pretty much a near-impossible task. The only way Habbox will thrive again is if Habbo ups it's game and actually does something about it's own activity
There is a competitor and that is other fansites. Habbox ultimate objective has to be 'the most popular fansite' everything has to work off of that in order to achieve it. Last month when I was on frequently there was just short of 10,000 people on at peak times. This is still a large number of people, there are people to target to come and join in at Habbox.
Ask yourself why people say that. Because nothing is done to try tackle the decline, you as forum moderator should be suggesting ways to improve the forum what could be done to make people want to post here. I refer to the old days because it has been done before so it can be done again, I understand that numbers are not as big but at Habbox there is a core of users, some still play and some don't . There is always something to build on.
Aiden
03-04-2013, 01:36 AM
Just get BradtheLadLong to do a video about us! Instant fame!
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Things in RV that need sorting:
2/3/4 for 1c + 2 for 3c
Staff system (A few errors)
LTD needs adding
Suggestions in news Janice;:
Get a news feed or something, get it submitted to google, gain visits and possible members!
Have more news that interest people - A lot of the news is about things that happened days ago... no one cares because they already know lol ;)
Site:
Update it ;) Its quite old fashioned and a bit of an off put from other modern fansites
Maybe a user system that lets you see profiles? Unlike the current one :O
Events:
Weekly events
Different automatic games every 1/2 weeks or 1 month
:O
Why are you even still part of the staff than? Your attitude is so pessimist and your thinking is so negative that I think it would be better if you quit the team.
What? Your making no sense at the moment. I said in that post that I'm all for helping Habbox improve?
Also the only negative thing I mentioned in that thread was the users being negitive saying the site is dead.
There is a competitor and that is other fansites. Habbox ultimate objective has to be 'the most popular fansite' everything has to work off of that in order to achieve it. Last month when I was on frequently there was just short of 10,000 people on at peak times. This is still a large number of people, there are people to target to come and join in at Habbox.
Ask yourself why people say that. Because nothing is done to try tackle the decline, you as forum moderator should be suggesting ways to improve the forum what could be done to make people want to post here. I refer to the old days because it has been done before so it can be done again, I understand that numbers are not as big but at Habbox there is a core of users, some still play and some don't . There is always something to build on.
You must have been on at a super busy time then as most of the time at peak there is about 3,000-4,000 online at the most.
I do suggest ways to improve, not sure how you can automatically presume I don't suggest ideas when you're not very active yourself. In reality it can't be done again unless Habbo sorts itself out. In the times you are referring to Habbo used to have around 7 thousand online at a peak on just the UK hotel. Almost all users on the hotel used Habbox values, the radio had hundreds of listeners and events where almost always full. Now Habbo has around 4 thousand online peak with 4 hotels merged, a VERY little amount use Habbox values (due to marketplace), the radio has like 30 listeners maximum and events are struggling.
I can't grasp how nobody can see that this decrease in activity is massively down to Habbo and not actually Habbox.
xxMATTGxx
03-04-2013, 02:28 AM
You absolute hypocrite.
is what you said yesterday when I posted in the mod forums!
Yes but was that posted in the public forum aimed at any new member or young members of the forum? Nope.
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You can't keep blaming Habbo on its own if no other major fansites is having these issues at this moment in time. Anyway, must go back to sleep.
:G.M.T:
03-04-2013, 02:35 AM
What? Your making no sense at the moment. I said in that post that I'm all for helping Habbox improve?
Also the only negative thing I mentioned in that thread was the users being negitive saying the site is dead.
You must have been on at a super busy time then as most of the time at peak there is about 3,000-4,000 online at the most.
I do suggest ways to improve, not sure how you can automatically presume I don't suggest ideas when you're not very active yourself. In reality it can't be done again unless Habbo sorts itself out. In the times you are referring to Habbo used to have around 7 thousand online at a peak on just the UK hotel. Almost all users on the hotel used Habbox values, the radio had hundreds of listeners and events where almost always full. Now Habbo has around 4 thousand online peak with 4 hotels merged, a VERY little amount use Habbox values (due to marketplace), the radio has like 30 listeners maximum and events are struggling.
I can't grasp how nobody can see that this decrease in activity is massively down to Habbo and not actually Habbox.
You have been negative right from your first post and throughout with your constant view that there is no fix for Habbox.
This was only around a month ago which I saw the users online. Even still 4000 people there is still a large percentage of that, that could be Habbox users. In this thread which its sole purpose was to try find solutions and ideas on how to revive Habbox you haven't given any constructive ideas on how to improve things.
How can you say I am not very active? Because of my post count over the course of 9 years? Well let me tell you I visit this forum frequently and often browse through many of threads, I have never been one to actively get involved sometimes it has been my downfall but when I was reading through this thread and saw some of the negative comments that have come from staff such as yourself then I felt the need to say something and you Mr Forum Moderator are not going to dictate whether I can post because i'm not 'active' enough for you.
Again with correct management, rare values, Habbox live and Habbox events can become more popular. The Habbox community are here to help one another with suggestions, maybe it is about time staff started listening and showing actions.
Maybe a detailed questionnaire could be sent out to all Habbox members asking them for feedback, send a notification to their email addresses about the questionnaire, collate the data together and feed ideas from that. Habbox also had a strong community for non habbo players who liked to get involved in other forums, they seemed to have quietened down. There must be a reason for this ?
Rachel
03-04-2013, 05:23 AM
Mate, I know that. I'm just trying to help over here. I'm not "digging for staff" or whatever you think. It's just that Habbox is in a bad period and most people are not doing anything to help out. If they don't help out Habbox is eventually going to have to shut down!
You see the problem right?
Making threads about this doesn't even improve. I highly doubt your post will improve the forums activity etc. Not just Habbox this is happening, other forums too.
Aiden
03-04-2013, 05:36 AM
Making threads about this doesn't even improve. I highly doubt your post will improve the forums activity etc. Not just Habbox this is happening, other forums too.
Not true tbh... this is probs the most active thread in weeks. ;)
I just know i'm right about this topic :)
I'll take that as a yes then.
You can't keep blaming Habbo on its own if no other major fansites is having these issues at this moment in time. Anyway, must go back to sleep.
Seems your 'glass half empty' staff can, though. I don't even understand why he's a part of your team.
Chippiewill
03-04-2013, 10:00 AM
Yep, can't count the number of times that's been asked for.
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It makes a huge different to the calculator on Habbox.com. Put in 50 freeze tiles and it'll tell you 50c. Actually, you could get them for maybe 5c - a huge difference :P.
Oo Ye factors of 1c was always something I found ridiculously stupid to not have on there, though people are most likely gonna know it anyway so won't really make any diff to views, but Ye Would still make the site look better for a one time alteration to the relative items lmaoo
Is this something that would be extremely beneficial? Current plan for V7 is to implement fractional values up to two decimal places (e.g. you could value something at 0.02c) however adding values for per x number is viable (Although somewhat complicated) if you think it's important.
Zelda
03-04-2013, 10:02 AM
Is this something that would be extremely beneficial? Current plan for V7 is to implement fractional values up to two decimal places however adding values for per x number is viable (Although somewhat complicated) if you think it's important.
well the decimal places will have same effect i spose, but a 2nd d.p would be pointless really not gonna get anything below 0.1 tbh.
It's more sensible to do per x though cause of values such as 3 for 1 being quite common and just being neater then 0.3 or 0.33 or however you'd be doing it really.
GoldenMerc
03-04-2013, 10:06 AM
is there any point in talking about what v7 will happen, We've been waiting so long now. May aswel just say what we have at the moment and what we currently have to work with.
Chippiewill
03-04-2013, 10:11 AM
well the decimal places will have same effect i spose, but a 2nd d.p would be pointless really not gonna get anything below 0.1 tbh.
It's more sensible to do per x though cause of values such as 3 for 1 being quite common and just being neater then 0.3 or 0.33 or however you'd be doing it really.=
I'm adding 2dp primarily for flexibility, but also in calculations if you have something valued at 0.33c and you want to buy 30 then you'll know it's worth 10c, if it's only 0.3c then you'll think it's worth 9c.
I'm hesitant about the per x only because it adds issues with the search although I can think of some work arounds.
Samantha
03-04-2013, 10:12 AM
Just get BradtheLadLong to do a video about us! Instant fame!
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Things in RV that need sorting:
2/3/4 for 1c + 2 for 3c
Staff system (A few errors)
LTD needs adding
Suggestions in news Janice;:
Get a news feed or something, get it submitted to google, gain visits and possible members!
Have more news that interest people - A lot of the news is about things that happened days ago... no one cares because they already know lol ;)
Site:
Update it ;) Its quite old fashioned and a bit of an off put from other modern fansites
Maybe a user system that lets you see profiles? Unlike the current one :O
Events:
Weekly events
Different automatic games every 1/2 weeks or 1 month
:O
What do you mean a news feed, we will never and I repeat never get something that automatically gives our news, there were reasons that was removed in about mid-2011 never to return. It gives the reporters the motivation to find the information themselves, the reason news is late sometimes is because we have a number of people who have been away, we're also not the biggest department so we can't expect to be reporting each time. There was a news survey, I hoped you left your comments in that too.
You're suggesting things that should already be in place so I see no point.
XxZammyxX; a feedback thread isn't the way to increase activity according to you yet it has sparked discussion, maybe it hasn't increased activity overall but it's showing he cares about Habbox, that's one of the most positive things.
Aiden
03-04-2013, 10:52 AM
What do you mean a news feed, we will never and I repeat never get something that automatically gives our news, there were reasons that was removed in about mid-2011 never to return. It gives the reporters the motivation to find the information themselves, the reason news is late sometimes is because we have a number of people who have been away, we're also not the biggest department so we can't expect to be reporting each time. There was a news survey, I hoped you left your comments in that too.
You're suggesting things that should already be in place so I see no point.
XxZammyxX; a feedback thread isn't the way to increase activity according to you yet it has sparked discussion, maybe it hasn't increased activity overall but it's showing he cares about Habbox, that's one of the most positive things.
Are you a littul angwey towday sammannfa? ;) anyways yea a news feed ;) rss
Samantha
03-04-2013, 11:08 AM
Are you a littul angwey towday sammannfa? ;) anyways yea a news feed ;) rss
Don't patronise me, we will not be getting a news feed and that's no question :P.
scottish
03-04-2013, 11:10 AM
is there any point in talking about what v7 will happen, We've been waiting so long now. May aswel just say what we have at the moment and what we currently have to work with.
Yeah the whole v7 thing is just annoying as well, it's been in development for god knows how long now and anytime a staff member suggests an improvement on their department 'yeah it'll be implemented in v7'
Yet a year later and v7 has still not been released
lol forum died for about 5 minutes as i posted this, nice.
Samantha
03-04-2013, 11:27 AM
One thing that would help a lot is allowing people to sign up to the Habbox site instead of waiting until v7, if you don't you're not allowing people to comment on news reports - unless you allow guests to which was in discussion and AGREED when Charlie was here over a year ago.
Mr-Trainor
03-04-2013, 11:36 AM
Is this something that would be extremely beneficial? Current plan for V7 is to implement fractional values up to two decimal places (e.g. you could value something at 0.02c) however adding values for per x number is viable (Although somewhat complicated) if you think it's important.
I was just referring to the decimal places. Actually saying '7 per 1c' or something like that isn't completely necessary imo :).
Aiden
03-04-2013, 11:39 AM
PLAN OF ACTION:
Finish v7
Publish
Do a big event
Get MattG on air
:)
Sarah
03-04-2013, 11:44 AM
Yeah the whole v7 thing is just annoying as well, it's been in development for god knows how long now and anytime a staff member suggests an improvement on their department 'yeah it'll be implemented in v7'
Yet a year later and v7 has still not been released
lol forum died for about 5 minutes as i posted this, nice.
aren't they normally in development for ages? Didn't it take a ridiculous amount of time to get the current one? (or was it the one before I don't remember?).
Why not post milestones on how far the development is coming? Didn't they used to do that on the HabboxDev twitter? At least that way users/staff can actually see progress and would avoid this whole "coming soon" business.
Chippiewill
03-04-2013, 11:52 AM
The issue with milestones is that progress is not continuous and objectives change as we progress. There was a situation last August where we felt we could launch inside of two weeks when now clearly that was not true. We choose not to release information so that we do not mislead. If it were my decision a new version would not be announced until it was basically done.
AgnesIO
03-04-2013, 11:53 AM
Is this something that would be extremely beneficial? Current plan for V7 is to implement fractional values up to two decimal places (e.g. you could value something at 0.02c) however adding values for per x number is viable (Although somewhat complicated) if you think it's important.
To be honest, whilst it would work for norms, may I ask if we know how many people actually use Habbox values anymore? I started to get laughed at when I suggested using Hx rare values - as it is "just check marketplace". The only thing I would look at Hx values for nowadays is a super rare that hasn't been traded in marketplace for (is it 7 days?) - and even then I would take it with a pinch of salt. This isn't Habbox's fault - when the game itself brings its own rare values (effectively), naturally fansite rare values will be given less of a main stage.
Yeah the whole v7 thing is just annoying as well, it's been in development for god knows how long now and anytime a staff member suggests an improvement on their department 'yeah it'll be implemented in v7'
Yet a year later and v7 has still not been released
lol forum died for about 5 minutes as i posted this, nice.
Don't you remember it being the exact same thing with v6? Nobody seems to remember the countless times we were told about the magical v6, which took far longer to actually show up than the rumoured v7 haha
I'm all for helping Habbox improve, why would I not be? :S
There is no 'competitor', Habbo is declining in activity thus having an effect on Habbox activity - making your situation invalid.
Personally i've had enough of all this "HABBOX IS DEAD", "IT IS RUBBISH COMPARED TO YEARS AGO" etc. Habbo has lost a good 70-80% of their users over the past 2 years or so, this will undoubtedly have an effect on the amount of users joining Habbox, amount listening to radio, attending events etc.
Again your referring to Habbox in the older days, it will never be like that again no matter how hard anyone tries. So don't expect it!
I wouldn't say its an impossible task either, everything is possible. Its just pretty much a near-impossible task. The only way Habbox will thrive again is if Habbo ups it's game and actually does something about it's own activity
I swear HFFM used to show their users online statistics, but they don't anymore so I cannot use them. However, I know another fansite generally always has more users online on the forum than Habbox? There must be a reason why for this, we cannot simply blame a decline in Habbo when other fansites are managing to grow.
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The first thing I would do to help revive Habbox? Get rid of the staff who don't respect the users - they are there to represent Habbox, and they cannot even be bothered to do that.
The second thing I would do? Stop banging on about v7 and release it - I have heard it all before on "it will be worth the wait". Heard the same about V6, and in fairness, I really don't think it was THAT magical.
The third thing I would do? If you happen to find out about an events organiser buying thrones from the black market, if it is making their events rooms look really good, fgs don't sack them. Other fansites are doing it, and their events rooms look far better than Habbox's - and it pays off as new habbo players are impressed by expensive rooms, and are therefore more likely to stay.
The fourth thing I would do? Get some events organisers in who actually want to promote Habbox and the Forum, not ones who are there to boost their own egos and make certain players feel exclusive above others (ie. if unknown person loses "say ex.it without the dot", or if special friend loses "come in this area!!"
Chippiewill
03-04-2013, 11:55 AM
To be honest, whilst it would work for norms, may I ask if we know how many people actually use Habbox values anymore? I started to get laughed at when I suggested using Hx rare values - as it is "just check marketplace". The only thing I would look at Hx values for nowadays is a super rare that hasn't been traded in marketplace for (is it 7 days?) - and even then I would take it with a pinch of salt. This isn't Habbox's fault - when the game itself brings its own rare values (effectively), naturally fansite rare values will be given less of a main stage.
I did some checks a couple of months ago. Rare values accounts for roughly 20% of all traffic on Habbox.com
AgnesIO
03-04-2013, 12:00 PM
I did some checks a couple of months ago. Rare values accounts for roughly 20% of all traffic on Habbox.com
That is actually better than I imagined it would be (although obviously not as high as it once was, but as I say that is not Habbox's fault).
To be honest, the best way to value them would be marketplace value - "tax". Maybe as an idea (no doubt for v7!!), Habbox could have a "Suggest Rare Value" button, with a simply form people can write in? Obviously don't pick up those values like gold leaves, but for some values it could be of great use. That could then be used as a "thanks for submitting a rare value. Please sign up to www.habboxforum.com for exclusive leaks of new habbo rares.. (etc etc)" :)
Chippiewill
03-04-2013, 12:08 PM
To be honest, the best way to value them would be marketplace value - "tax". Maybe as an idea (no doubt for v7!!), Habbox could have a "Suggest Rare Value" button, with a simply form people can write in? Obviously don't pick up those values like gold leaves, but for some values it could be of great use. That could then be used as a "thanks for submitting a rare value. Please sign up to www.habboxforum.com for exclusive leaks of new habbo rares.. (etc etc)" :)
Whilst I have no issues implementing this a procedural change like this is best suggested to Pigperson; as it essentially makes the suggestions forum redundant.
AgnesIO
03-04-2013, 12:11 PM
Whilst I have no issues implementing this a procedural change like this is best suggested to @Pigperson (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=41868); as it essentially makes the suggestions forum redundant.
Ok then, about about this? "Do you think a Rare Value is wrong? Why not sign up to our forum HERE, where you can suggest rare values, and even be the FIRST to find out about brand new unreleased habbo rares!"
Chippiewill
03-04-2013, 12:12 PM
Ok then, about about this? "Do you think a Rare Value is wrong? Why not sign up to our forum HERE, where you can suggest rare values, and even be the FIRST to find out about brand new unreleased habbo rares!"
That's definitely doable and the cross-departmental promotion is a good idea.
Kardan
03-04-2013, 12:17 PM
Version 7 is a running joke really, no point in talking about it. As I've said many times, I wouldn't be surprised if Version 8 gets released first :P (And that's what happened to Version 5 according to the wiki...)
Samantha
03-04-2013, 12:18 PM
They can already comment on a rare if they wish on the site, if they wanted to suggest a value without signing up to the forum couldn't they do it there?
PLAN OF ACTION:
Finish v7
Publish
Do a big event
Get MattG on air
Are you going to suggest something worth doing? These are the things Habbox should do anyway so I think you need to get some worthwhile ideas. You can't have been at Habbox that long then as MattG has been on air countless times, big event - reality check we're currently taking part in one. V7 should be done by now, get coders who want to push V7 forward and who actually care about Habbox instead of power abusers we've had before.
Aiden
03-04-2013, 12:19 PM
They can already comment on a rare if they wish on the site, if they wanted to suggest a value without signing up to the forum couldn't they do it there?
Are you going to suggest something worth doing? These are the things Habbox should do anyway so I think you need to get some worthwhile ideas. You can't have been at Habbox that long then as MattG has been on air countless times, big event - reality check we're currently taking part in one. V7 should be done by now, get coders who want to push V7 forward and who actually care about Habbox instead of power abusers we've had before.
I've only been at Habbox for a few days sorry Sam... ;( and its just reminding you
Chippiewill
03-04-2013, 12:21 PM
Version 7 is a running joke really, no point in talking about it. As I've said many times, I wouldn't be surprised if Version 8 gets released first :P (And that's what happened to Version 5 according to the wiki...)
Patience is a virtue.
Nistez
03-04-2013, 12:23 PM
Making threads about this doesn't even improve. I highly doubt your post will improve the forums activity etc. Not just Habbox this is happening, other forums too.
At least im trying
Samantha
03-04-2013, 12:23 PM
I've only been at Habbox for a few days sorry Sam... ;( and its just reminding you
It doesn't help when staff members joke about stupid things.
Aiden
03-04-2013, 12:29 PM
It doesn't help when staff members joke about stupid things.
It doesn't help staff re mardy but that's life... most things don't help but live with them lol
People check rare values on stuff like teleports, cause they can't be put in the MP. Maybe that should be focused on being updated more, but I dunno why anyone would go on habbox site when it's slow and bulky and horrible to use lol
edible
03-04-2013, 12:44 PM
J0rd should be dismissed. If he doesn't want Habbox to progress then he shouldn't be staff because surely the fundamental concept of being staff on a fansite revolves around the idea you want to help / support - he's doing the opposite. He is essentially saying that Habbox has declined too much and we should therefore stop making and or contributing to these threads.
Nistez
03-04-2013, 12:46 PM
J0rd should be dismissed. If he doesn't want Habbox to progress then he shouldn't be staff because surely the fundamental concept of being staff on a fansite revolves around the idea you want to help / support - he's doing the opposite. He is essentially saying that Habbox has declined too much and we should therefore stop making and or contributing to these threads.
Everything has just been said.
edible
03-04-2013, 12:48 PM
Everything has just been said.
Do you have any ideas on what to do? Most of the replies are ideas that have been suggested numerous times (some of them even years ago...) but it will be interesting to hear what you, as a relatively new user have to say.
Kardan
03-04-2013, 12:52 PM
Patience is a virtue.
If it was just a new layout with a few added features it wouldn't bother me, it's just that all the new ideas that have been suggested 'will be implemented when V7 happens', so nothing gets done... And then the staff in each department change so often, I wonder if they left behind their old work so it can actually be implemented into V7 or if its lost forever...
GoldenMerc
03-04-2013, 01:05 PM
Okay why don't people get off the bandwagon, 99% of the people who said j0rd should be fired (other than the person he trolled) Actually troll themself. Onto v7, We may aswel work on what we have now, We have a working site (yes its not brilliant, but it works, It does everything Habbox needs) It may be slow, bulky and look like it came out of a elephants back side but it still works. Some things that people are asking to be changed would take half an hour, V7 should never have took this long, The coders quite obviously arent progressing, Habbox ether needs some backing of funds (As Habbox now reveals itself as a business, rather than a fansite) Paying for a coder isn't hard, May cost £200. But its better than what we have now :P
FlyingJesus
03-04-2013, 01:11 PM
With regards to people commenting on rare values through the site etc something I said in the news department feedback (has anything come of that?) is that to me it makes no sense to have separate Hx and HxF accounts, especially when usage of both is so much lower than it has been in the past. By having the "comments" sections link directly into the forums (perhaps by having official news threads that can only be made by news staff) it would mean that
People might actually read news articles :o :o :o :o :o surely not
Discussions about news stories would be more in depth
People wishing to comment on such things would become members of the community in doing so rather than just a passing figure
There wouldn't be pointless duplications of news reports as there currently is when there's a 2 paragraph report on the site and a 5 page discussion about the story on the forum
People using the main site would be interacting with the forum users, broadening the community
On the topic of news the articles could also do with some proper editing so that there aren't entire articles written in bold with commas, after every, other word,
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And Ross, people agreeing on stuff isn't the same as joining a bandwagon - sometimes opinions are popular because they actually make sense
AgnesIO
03-04-2013, 01:17 PM
Okay why don't people get off the bandwagon, 99% of the people who said j0rd should be fired (other than the person he trolled) Actually troll themself. Onto v7, We may aswel work on what we have now, We have a working site (yes its not brilliant, but it works, It does everything Habbox needs) It may be slow, bulky and look like it came out of a elephants back side but it still works. Some things that people are asking to be changed would take half an hour, V7 should never have took this long, The coders quite obviously arent progressing, Habbox ether needs some backing of funds (As Habbox now reveals itself as a business, rather than a fansite) Paying for a coder isn't hard, May cost £200. But its better than what we have now :P
In fairness Ross, you are hardly going to say anything against him. Jord either works on TashLoad with you, or at the very least supports it - ou are not the most likely candidate to suggest it was wrong!
Agreed on the v7 bit though. The one thing Habbox main website was supposed to be was interactive and user centric - it really isn't. As I have said though, I think the events department is the absolute first thing that needs to be worked on. I don't mean to target the events people, but if you want new users on Habbox that is where you will get registrations. You really need a WIRED room to be successful, which is totally Habbox centric - as they can get almost 24/7 attention to Habbox. You need really good looking events rooms with good hosts.
I heard comity had a popular wired room you should hire him. joke lol
Mr-Trainor
03-04-2013, 01:28 PM
People check rare values on stuff like teleports, cause they can't be put in the MP. Maybe that should be focused on being updated more, but I dunno why anyone would go on habbox site when it's slow and bulky and horrible to use lol
That's exactly why we're missing out by not having LTDs yet :(.
Chippiewill
03-04-2013, 01:31 PM
Why we aren't just fixing the V6 codebase:
- Most of the feature requests that we've had require (At least on the face of it) architectural changes to implement. Considering no one except David has any experience developing for V6 this would not be a sensible task to complete in a reasonable timeframe.
- Even stuff like bug fixes are problematic as the file structure is not brilliantly thought out, when changes have been needed to be made to V6 in a mission-critical kind of sense it's taken 30 minutes or more just to find the file I'm meant to be editing.
- Perhaps most importantly, Time to fix V6 > Time to finish V7.
- And almost as important, Matt has not yet found a barge pole long enough to convince any site coder to even go near it.
GoldenMerc
03-04-2013, 01:32 PM
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And Ross, people agreeing on stuff isn't the same as joining a bandwagon - sometimes opinions are popular because they actually make sense
Coming from the guy who cried when everyone believed you creeped on a 15 year old? And then everyones opinions were not counted, As FlyingJesus said so eh?
In fairness Ross, you are hardly going to say anything against him. Jord either works on TashLoad with you, or at the very least supports it - ou are not the most likely candidate to suggest it was wrong!
Didn't say he didn't? If I agreed with you guys I would have said, Although none of you are bring up anything other than Jord trolled him. I mean look around guys, We all used to say oh ClubHabbo just has trolls, and correct it may do. But look at Habbox now, Its no different |-) Maybe if you didnt all gang up on one and another, We may actually find a solution and bring Habbox back together, Yes it'll never be like it was in 2006. But we could atleast bring a community back together rather than bickering and ********.
FlyingJesus
03-04-2013, 01:41 PM
Coming from the guy who cried when everyone believed you creeped on a 15 year old? And then everyones opinions were not counted, As FlyingJesus said so eh?
Being annoyed at an out-and-out lie is not the same as you saying that Jord did nothing wrong when we can see in the very first reply to this thread that he did. Your debate skills have clearly not improved in your time here, despite being more intelligent than everyone because you have GCSEs. What you should probably do is actually respond to points rather than just attacking people on a personal level
GoldenMerc
03-04-2013, 01:47 PM
Being annoyed at an out-and-out lie is not the same as you saying that Jord did nothing wrong when we can see in the very first reply to this thread that he did. Your debate skills have clearly not improved in your time here, despite being more intelligent than everyone because you have GCSEs. What you should probably do is actually respond to points rather than just attacking people on a personal level
Its hardly a lie now is it :rolleyes:
Did I say Jord did nothing wrong? no He was rude and its fairly obvious, Although other people troll, He shouldnt (defiantly not being a moderator) Although It hasn't stopped moderators and higher doing it previously I wish he hadn't of done it.
My debate skills (yn)
btw I dont have GCSE's :S obviously failed at reading in our last argument
FlyingJesus
03-04-2013, 01:58 PM
Well yes actually it is a lie, regardless of what emotes you post
You may not have said Jord did nothing wrong but you were suggesting that it wasn't important and he shouldn't be vilified for it, which boils down to the same thing really, and yes I will certainly call your debate skills into question when in one post you slanderously attack someone and then go on to say that bickering and fighting each other should be stopped - if you can't even hold your own position for a single post then you kinda lose all credibility.
Congratulations on starting another pointless tangent of useless conversation in order to try getting at me though, it's quite impressive how you keep doing that in threads that might otherwise be useful. I would actually like to see something done though, so if you don't mind I'll leave you to play with yourself over just how intellectual you are while I get back to an important point in the real discussion
With regards to people commenting on rare values through the site etc something I said in the news department feedback (has anything come of that?) is that to me it makes no sense to have separate Hx and HxF accounts, especially when usage of both is so much lower than it has been in the past. By having the "comments" sections link directly into the forums (perhaps by having official news threads that can only be made by news staff) it would mean that
People might actually read news articles :o :o :o :o :o surely not
Discussions about news stories would be more in depth
People wishing to comment on such things would become members of the community in doing so rather than just a passing figure
There wouldn't be pointless duplications of news reports as there currently is when there's a 2 paragraph report on the site and a 5 page discussion about the story on the forum
People using the main site would be interacting with the forum users, broadening the community
On the topic of news the articles could also do with some proper editing so that there aren't entire articles written in bold with commas, after every, other word,
Yeah he does, but he isn't really active is what i'm talking about, and again he is just an normal user who put habbox on their room name. Not someone who actually has a role at habbox lol
Sorry that I can't work 50 hours a week and work for Habbox too.. It will happen to you too one day :P I never really login to Habbo though you're right.. but neither did L1C :P If someone decides to remove my maze to be replaced by an active user, I don't mind. I built my maze for others to enjoy not to pee people off :P
I will read the rest of the thread when I get time! Looks like a corker :P
Sorry that I can't work 50 hours a week and work for Habbox too.. It will happen to you too one day :P I never really login to Habbo though you're right.. but neither did L1C :P If someone decides to remove my maze to be replaced by an active user, I don't mind. I built my maze for others to enjoy not to pee people off :P
I will read the rest of the thread when I get time! Looks like a corker :P
I'm not saying that i just said management need to start making rooms rather relying on users to do everything lol..
Pigperson
03-04-2013, 03:23 PM
To be honest, whilst it would work for norms, may I ask if we know how many people actually use Habbox values anymore? I started to get laughed at when I suggested using Hx rare values - as it is "just check marketplace". The only thing I would look at Hx values for nowadays is a super rare that hasn't been traded in marketplace for (is it 7 days?) - and even then I would take it with a pinch of salt. This isn't Habbox's fault - when the game itself brings its own rare values (effectively), naturally fansite rare values will be given less of a main stage.
We did a survey in February if I remember correctly to get some feedback as we are always searching for ways to better ourselves. It was pleasing to see that 75% of those surveyed use our service which is great. The survey also gave us a lot of feedback which I have noted and am working on fixing. Although a lot of the improvements are for V7 (which explains why it is taking so long because I compiled a humungous list of coding requests because our system is so out of date).
http://www.mattgarner.net/upload/images/2013/02/26/rare_values.png
That is actually better than I imagined it would be (although obviously not as high as it once was, but as I say that is not Habbox's fault).
To be honest, the best way to value them would be marketplace value - "tax". Maybe as an idea (no doubt for v7!!), Habbox could have a "Suggest Rare Value" button, with a simply form people can write in? Obviously don't pick up those values like gold leaves, but for some values it could be of great use. That could then be used as a "thanks for submitting a rare value. Please sign up to www.habboxforum.com for exclusive leaks of new habbo rares.. (etc etc)" :)
That sounds like a good idea and it's not hard, I wouldn't have any reservations about that as it is simply a link and it would promote our Rare Values Suggestions forum too :D
Will
MKR&*42
03-04-2013, 03:26 PM
Whoa this got busy
I know this has been said so much, but the problem is Habbox has very litte (not no) unique stuff to offer compared to other fansites. There are a few features that would boost Habbox above, but they simply aren't being improved enough;
Rares - Please value expensive rares/supers, ltds and teleports only. Unless a large portion of that 20% traffic being for RV is due to searches on normal furniture items, I see no point and would rather keep it as a furni database.
News - find someway to have it connected to the forum as someone said earlier.
Events - everyone else has pretty much said what I wanted to.
Can't really comment on hxl cause I dont tune in that much.
There are opportunities that habbox simply aren't taking up though - Puhekupla pretty much dominates in 'upcoming habbo features' although sometimes it's posted on Habbox before there, HFFM + TH dominate events & whichever one had a sub-forum for news reporters probably does better off in news. I think both of those sites have a higher listener count as well. Habbox is only really left with trying to improve forum events or focusing on stuff involving Official Habbo Quest/Game answers. Don't see why it hasn't been suggested that there be some form of widget on Habbox.com that provides the answers to latest quests in habbo or stuff, I'm sure that would interest quite a few users considering a) those threads seem to be popular on the forum and b) the 'Answers' group on habbo.com is screwed now cause of no forums.
Pigperson
03-04-2013, 03:35 PM
People check rare values on stuff like teleports, cause they can't be put in the MP. Maybe that should be focused on being updated more, but I dunno why anyone would go on habbox site when it's slow and bulky and horrible to use lol
From our survey of course people principally use it for that but people also use Habbox as a reassurance because there are so many rigged values. For example, I often see recoloured classic rares that have gone up by 70c because of a rigger and people need something else to go on.
Regarding the UI, I did ask for the V7 to have a better UI but that will be done without question I'm sure. I do agree it is slow to search and hard to navigate atm.
That's exactly why we're missing out by not having LTDs yet :(.
I want V7 to come too dw ;[
Rares - Please value expensive rares/supers, ltds and teleports only. Unless a large portion of that 20% traffic being for RV is due to searches on normal furniture items, I see no point and would rather keep it as a furni database.
We have discussed the furni database idea for a while now and when I became manager it was a time when values were less used because of the MP, hence why I introduced the Furni Editors to make sure furni is up to date and added. A lot of people use Habbox as a furni database as there aren't many others but people also use values, maybe not for all furni but some. I know norm values aren't needed but now we do them, it seems strange to do only some furni and not the others. With our V7 update we will have pages for staff to see Furni not recently updated so we should be more up to date. We will put more emphasis on rares/supers/seasonals etc although we don't really report on norms anyway because the values stay constant.
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If there are any other issues/queries/suggestions, feel free to message me :P - Although most improvements will come with V7
Will
I'm not saying that i just said management need to start making rooms rather relying on users to do everything lol..
Sorry I haven't read it all properly yet :P My mistake!
Ah, looks like things around here never change. I can't really comment because I never go on any fansite or forums anymore. But from a quick glance it seems HFFM has improved in activity, not the opposite way round.
Thus, to say that it is impossible to improve Habbox is stupid. Looks like HabboxLive is doing alright, it could do more and when I visited the perm shows page, sadly I saw none. Also, the actual HxL website looks like a bad nightmare and needs upgrading or merging urgently. Listeners seem not too bad and have improved under Jade. However, I believe HX can still hit 80 + listeners at a regular basis, there just needs to be some fun things advertised clearly, and of course things like perm shows. Also, can we not have these stupid alpha, beta groups listed out on the staff list; sure, have it as your groups but I'd rather have DJs split into UK, International/ North America + Oceania (1 section) on the staff list. Finally, there needs to be something figured out with the high turnover of DJs, it's been a problem for about a year and a bit with 20 DJs coming in and 20 more quitting and being fired, which is really bad! However, I congratulate Jade and Ms. Woodsy for holding it on the right track- keep it up look forward for even more improvements ;).
If news (and I don't know this seeing as I don't check and cba to check) still cannot get its act together and get articles posted quite quickly, then yeh close it down and replace it with a bot. It's been like this for a while, so it's silly to keep a department that posts articles 3 days after everyone else has done so. Now don't jump on me, but if all you're doing is rephrasing articles posted days earlier on the forum or by Habbo, then there really is no point. I understand staffing concerns, but in that case have a news feed replace people. It's a shame, but there's no point dragging it on, unless there are substantial plans or efforts going on to turn that around.
As for the said moderator who said that Habbox is doomed, I'm surprised that you even have a job here with your attitude and your smug comments towards new members is the last anyone should expect from a moderator. I don't see how you can possible defend this "strong opinion" and still believe in HX to stay in your job. That's sheer hypocrisy.
Rachel
03-04-2013, 05:05 PM
@XxZammyxX (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=83201); a feedback thread isn't the way to increase activity according to you yet it has sparked discussion, maybe it hasn't increased activity overall but it's showing he cares about Habbox, that's one of the most positive things.
No as I have seen this at another fansite a while back and nothing changed. It`s nice to see someone who cares about Habbox just as much as I do but making a thread. They can simply contact an administrator maybe and give feedback or something. There is no use to make threads after threads about this situation which it won`t solve anything as you can see with all these users and staff posting. Question is what will this thread do to solve the activity base? To tell you the truth only the user or staff decides if they want to be active. Not making threads about Hey we should make sure everyone is active.
You have to realise those who are not active are adults who goes to university and don`t have to the time to make events for Habbox or any fansite they worked at! Sad but true.
Zelda
03-04-2013, 05:08 PM
From our survey of course people principally use it for that but people also use Habbox as a reassurance because there are so many rigged values. For example, I often see recoloured classic rares that have gone up by 70c because of a rigger and people need something else to go on.
the thing is even if it's rigged to that that's technically the correct value for the time and people will be able to sell at that as the mp is the go by?
and to grig ye we have plans for news atm that are being worked upon! read earlier for a few
the thing is even if it's rigged to that that's technically the correct value for the time and people will be able to sell at that as the mp is the go by?
and to grig ye we have plans for news atm that are being worked upon! read earlier for a few
Plans are great and I really don't want to see news close, but when it's been really (even when I was there) ineffective for over a year now, then there is no point.
Hopefully all these plans you have will be what is needed, good luck with those :).
mrwoooooooo
03-04-2013, 05:18 PM
If news (and I don't know this seeing as I don't check and cba to check) still cannot get its act together and get articles posted quite quickly,
it took them a day to post that they'd gotten best habbo radio!
xxMATTGxx
03-04-2013, 05:40 PM
If news (and I don't know this seeing as I don't check and cba to check) still cannot get its act together and get articles posted quite quickly, then yeh close it down and replace it with a bot. It's been like this for a while, so it's silly to keep a department that posts articles 3 days after everyone else has done so. Now don't jump on me, but if all you're doing is rephrasing articles posted days earlier on the forum or by Habbo, then there really is no point. I understand staffing concerns, but in that case have a news feed replace people. It's a shame, but there's no point dragging it on, unless there are substantial plans or efforts going on to turn that around.
As for the said moderator who said that Habbox is doomed, I'm surprised that you even have a job here with your attitude and your smug comments towards new members is the last anyone should expect from a moderator. I don't see how you can possible defend this "strong opinion" and still believe in HX to stay in your job. That's sheer hypocrisy.
The whole "posting news on forum" by staff seems to work quite well for ThisHabbo and HFFM and then they both include links from the main site to the specific sections. Although you've mentioned a bot which is different to what they do I believe. Posting articles slow has been a problem for a while and still is to some extent. I am quite surprised at the results of a recent survey with how many people have chosen yes and sometimes to them reading the news on the Habbox site - But the survey also suggests other categorises apart from Habbo should actually be scrapped for good.
Zelda
03-04-2013, 05:55 PM
The whole "posting news on forum" by staff seems to work quite well for ThisHabbo and HFFM and then they both include links from the main site to the specific sections. Although you've mentioned a bot which is different to what they do I believe. Posting articles slow has been a problem for a while and still is to some extent. I am quite surprised at the results of a recent survey with how many people have chosen yes and sometimes to them reading the news on the Habbox site - But the survey also suggests other categorises apart from Habbo should actually be scrapped for good.
have you actully got the results in from that now? cause would be interesting to see so I can get some ideas from it really!
xxMATTGxx
03-04-2013, 06:04 PM
have you actully got the results in from that now? cause would be interesting to see so I can get some ideas from it really!
Yeah I've actually posted them in your management forum today: http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=774222&goto=newpost
Zelda
03-04-2013, 06:06 PM
Yeah I've actually posted them in your management forum today: http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=774222&goto=newpost
oo thanks musta missed that :)
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Ok on the topic of news actually, I'm just interested if anyone would be interested in these sort of things which we could do -
--> techy stuff like jake was doing and should be doing now he's back again :)
--> trade advice and investment advice sort of articles based around habbo like back when I did market watch (I know that had a lot of interest back when I was doing it and had quite a lot of comments about it)
--> more sort of opinion based articles about certain topics that will hopefully be very interesting to read and will involve an accumulation of ideas and opinions from other people as well as writer, editorial sort of things basically.
--> any other stuff really
Also I do believe in the fact that a forum for news articles to be also posted into would be of utmost benefit for us really so will definitely talk about that with matt, have been thinking about that for a while quite a bit after all. Tbh reading the results of the survey have boosted my hopes a lot more though woo!
scottish
03-04-2013, 08:13 PM
I don't see why habbox does news other than habbo(x) to be honest
If i want a review on tech (assuming by janice mentioning "techy"), i'm not going to (nor is anyone really) going to listen to a view of a teenager over somewhere like cnet, techradar etc
If I want to read current affairs BBC news, Sky news etc is always going to be most peoples first choice and it's always going to be more accurate (having a news sections where by staff are just copying news (by copying I mean viewing something on Sky news then posting their own version on Hx, not simply copy and pasting) from other news sites has always seemed pretty pointless)
Habbox should stick stricly to Habbo and Habbox news.
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also while i notice, why doesn't a manager require the same name as their habbo
Chippiewill
03-04-2013, 08:21 PM
Because Managers don't necessarily need to be identifiable on Habbo.
xxMATTGxx
03-04-2013, 08:22 PM
oo thanks musta missed that :)
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Ok on the topic of news actually, I'm just interested if anyone would be interested in these sort of things which we could do -
--> techy stuff like jake was doing and should be doing now he's back again :)
--> trade advice and investment advice sort of articles based around habbo like back when I did market watch (I know that had a lot of interest back when I was doing it and had quite a lot of comments about it)
--> more sort of opinion based articles about certain topics that will hopefully be very interesting to read and will involve an accumulation of ideas and opinions from other people as well as writer, editorial sort of things basically.
--> any other stuff really
Also I do believe in the fact that a forum for news articles to be also posted into would be of utmost benefit for us really so will definitely talk about that with matt, have been thinking about that for a while quite a bit after all. Tbh reading the results of the survey have boosted my hopes a lot more though woo!
Is doing the tech stuff worthwhile though? In short-term and long-term. No offence to Jake but say If we went by the survey itself and the answers people sent in. It seems quite a lot of people don't care for any other news apart from mainly Habbo itself.
Samantha
03-04-2013, 09:09 PM
Ah, looks like things around here never change. I can't really comment because I never go on any fansite or forums anymore. But from a quick glance it seems HFFM has improved in activity, not the opposite way round.
Thus, to say that it is impossible to improve Habbox is stupid. Looks like HabboxLive is doing alright, it could do more and when I visited the perm shows page, sadly I saw none. Also, the actual HxL website looks like a bad nightmare and needs upgrading or merging urgently. Listeners seem not too bad and have improved under Jade. However, I believe HX can still hit 80 + listeners at a regular basis, there just needs to be some fun things advertised clearly, and of course things like perm shows. Also, can we not have these stupid alpha, beta groups listed out on the staff list; sure, have it as your groups but I'd rather have DJs split into UK, International/ North America + Oceania (1 section) on the staff list. Finally, there needs to be something figured out with the high turnover of DJs, it's been a problem for about a year and a bit with 20 DJs coming in and 20 more quitting and being fired, which is really bad! However, I congratulate Jade and Ms. Woodsy for holding it on the right track- keep it up look forward for even more improvements ;).
If news (and I don't know this seeing as I don't check and cba to check) still cannot get its act together and get articles posted quite quickly, then yeh close it down and replace it with a bot. It's been like this for a while, so it's silly to keep a department that posts articles 3 days after everyone else has done so. Now don't jump on me, but if all you're doing is rephrasing articles posted days earlier on the forum or by Habbo, then there really is no point. I understand staffing concerns, but in that case have a news feed replace people. It's a shame, but there's no point dragging it on, unless there are substantial plans or efforts going on to turn that around.
As for the said moderator who said that Habbox is doomed, I'm surprised that you even have a job here with your attitude and your smug comments towards new members is the last anyone should expect from a moderator. I don't see how you can possible defend this "strong opinion" and still believe in HX to stay in your job. That's sheer hypocrisy.
I don't know if I can mention this yet but maybe news doesn't get posted quickly due to the amount news reporters or should I say content staff (writers) have to do. Some people can't manage 2 per week but they try and most of the time they succeed, we've got some people returning and hopefully they will be quicker - I know I get news out as quick as I can, the amount of times I've beaten the forum members since Christmas is good by anyone's standards, same goes to others in the department too. It shouldn't be a bot because where is it going to come from? Habbo doesn't do articles anymore so how would it get published?
FlyingJesus; your recent comment about news, have you been reading articles and not other news reports? If I saw a report with commas after every word it would be edited quickly, we have 3 senior content staff at the moment and they can all edit and it does get done.
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I don't see why habbox does news other than habbo(x) to be honest
If i want a review on tech (assuming by janice mentioning "techy"), i'm not going to (nor is anyone really) going to listen to a view of a teenager over somewhere like cnet, techradar etc
If I want to read current affairs BBC news, Sky news etc is always going to be most peoples first choice and it's always going to be more accurate (having a news sections where by staff are just copying news (by copying I mean viewing something on Sky news then posting their own version on Hx, not simply copy and pasting) from other news sites has always seemed pretty pointless)
Habbox should stick stricly to Habbo and Habbox news.
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also while i notice, why doesn't a manager require the same name as their habbo
If they manage a content department: content, forum then they don't need one.
If they manage a community department: comps, rv, hxl, events and hxhd then they do need one.
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oo thanks musta missed that :)
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Ok on the topic of news actually, I'm just interested if anyone would be interested in these sort of things which we could do -
--> techy stuff like jake was doing and should be doing now he's back again :)
--> trade advice and investment advice sort of articles based around habbo like back when I did market watch (I know that had a lot of interest back when I was doing it and had quite a lot of comments about it)
--> more sort of opinion based articles about certain topics that will hopefully be very interesting to read and will involve an accumulation of ideas and opinions from other people as well as writer, editorial sort of things basically.
--> any other stuff really
Also I do believe in the fact that a forum for news articles to be also posted into would be of utmost benefit for us really so will definitely talk about that with matt, have been thinking about that for a while quite a bit after all. Tbh reading the results of the survey have boosted my hopes a lot more though woo!
No, we don't need a forum, I suggested that we have a tab on the forum to link people to the news reports we've written, once clicked they can choose the topic they wish to read and they then can see a list of them - this would then enable them to post with their forum account on the site, something that could be done and would be beneficial.
Sorry, but haven't you read past threads in news? We were all against a forum for articles as it wouldn't do anything, what's the point of having a thread in news and rumours and in this new section of the forum - it's not needed. Also, it's just making seniors work more when we've just had to triple our workload, I can't see many staying if you do that and I wouldn't be happy with it in the slightest. If I remember correctly, seniors would need moderation perms in that forum and I doubt that would be allowed.
Zelda
03-04-2013, 09:35 PM
Is doing the tech stuff worthwhile though? In short-term and long-term. No offence to Jake but say If we went by the survey itself and the answers people sent in. It seems quite a lot of people don't care for any other news apart from mainly Habbo itself.
I not really sure it is myself it's just something a few people have brought up to me so was just interested to see if anyone has any interest in it. From reactions though and like the feedback probably isn't I have to agree, just thought I might as well mention it anyway.
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No, we don't need a forum, I suggested that we have a tab on the forum to link people to the news reports we've written, once clicked they can choose the topic they wish to read and they then can see a list of them - this would then enable them to post with their forum account on the site, something that could be done and would be beneficial.
Sorry, but haven't you read past threads in news? We were all against a forum for articles as it wouldn't do anything, what's the point of having a thread in news and rumours and in this new section of the forum - it's not needed. Also, it's just making seniors work more when we've just had to triple our workload, I can't see many staying if you do that and I wouldn't be happy with it in the slightest. If I remember correctly, seniors would need moderation perms in that forum and I doubt that would be allowed.
If you read the feedback or what other people have been saying It is quite clear we do. People don't want to go onto habbox.com to read the news cause either it won't load for them (reasonably common), or just cause of how laggy it is/radio etc. I don't see anyone against a forum except you in news atm and what is the extra workload for a senior here when it's the staff themselves just c+p'ing the article into there once they've posted it? doesn't even need to be seniors doing it.
Samantha
03-04-2013, 10:07 PM
I not really sure it is myself it's just something a few people have brought up to me so was just interested to see if anyone has any interest in it. From reactions though and like the feedback probably isn't I have to agree, just thought I might as well mention it anyway.
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If you read the feedback or what other people have been saying It is quite clear we do. People don't want to go onto habbox.com to read the news cause either it won't load for them (reasonably common), or just cause of how laggy it is/radio etc. I don't see anyone against a forum except you in news atm and what is the extra workload for a senior here when it's the staff themselves just c+p'ing the article into there once they've posted it? doesn't even need to be seniors doing it.
We need to edit twice, it's not going to look good going 'last edited by Samanfa at 00:00' is it? Then it could easily be edited again etc. yeah it's laggy but I'm sure it's doable to have a pop up of the news article, especially if people are just using the short story option?
Zelda
03-04-2013, 10:19 PM
We need to edit twice, it's not going to look good going 'last edited by Samanfa at 00:00' is it? Then it could easily be edited again etc. yeah it's laggy but I'm sure it's doable to have a pop up of the news article, especially if people are just using the short story option?
hrm that's something we'll have to consider but at least once you have edited the report you can then copy the report again so you don't at least have to look for everything again. I suppose requiring us to edit first and then having us copy over could be an idea especially now there is 5 of us but that is stuff we'll have to all consider when putting this through i suppose. I still think it is a necessary option to get though
I not really sure it is myself it's just something a few people have brought up to me so was just interested to see if anyone has any interest in it. From reactions though and like the feedback probably isn't I have to agree, just thought I might as well mention it anyway.
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If you read the feedback or what other people have been saying It is quite clear we do. People don't want to go onto habbox.com to read the news cause either it won't load for them (reasonably common), or just cause of how laggy it is/radio etc. I don't see anyone against a forum except you in news atm and what is the extra workload for a senior here when it's the staff themselves just c+p'ing the article into there once they've posted it? doesn't even need to be seniors doing it.
I am against a forum. We had it in the past and it failed, news got attacked for being annoying and that is because HxF is structured differently from other fansites, we already have a Habbo News section where people post before news does. The forum made people extremely annoyed and starting telling myself and Martin to remove it, so we eventually did. It was too glitchy, it served no purpose considering Habbo News was already posted by other people in a format that would allow better discussion.
This works on other fansites like ThisHabbo because this is how they were structured from the off-set.
It's been tried and tested and didn't work, so I don't see the point of trying and testing it all over again.
FlyingJesus
04-04-2013, 09:34 AM
No, we don't need a forum, I suggested that we have a tab on the forum to link people to the news reports we've written, once clicked they can choose the topic they wish to read and they then can see a list of them - this would then enable them to post with their forum account on the site, something that could be done and would be beneficial.
That is essentially a messier backwards version of having threads which are shown on the main site
Sorry, but haven't you read past threads in news? We were all against a forum for articles as it wouldn't do anything, what's the point of having a thread in news and rumours and in this new section of the forum - it's not needed.
There doesn't need to be a separate section, you could have some official news tag that only staff can use if it's that important to them but as you say there's no point having a thread in news and rumours (or Habbo news or whatever) and one elsewhere, so why do we do that with the site? It makes far far far more sense to host all discussion in one place (and clearly the forum would be the best venue for that) and then on the site it would simply be a case of copy&paste and instead of a comments box a link to the forum thread for discussion. That way as I said before people would actually read the articles and get involved, and it would give some validity to the role of news reporter which quite frankly there isn't at the moment
I am against a forum. We had it in the past and it failed, news got attacked for being annoying and that is because HxF is structured differently from other fansites, we already have a Habbo News section where people post before news does. The forum made people extremely annoyed and starting telling myself and Martin to remove it, so we eventually did. It was too glitchy, it served no purpose considering Habbo News was [is] already posted by other people in a format that would allow better discussion.
This works on other fansites like ThisHabbo because this is how they were structured from the off-set.
It's been tried and tested and didn't work, so I don't see the point of trying and testing it all over again.
Previously we had a stupid bot which posted every single article it could find and clogged up the forum, I don't think anyone's advocating for that this time around. The part I've emboldened explains why in its current format the news team is utterly pointless, which could be solved with the above suggestion :P
Foregetfuhl
04-04-2013, 09:59 AM
Obviously I'm going to base my argument here on HabboxLive. I've been reading with interest over the past of days and have been thinking long and hard about HabboxLive. Our listeners are average. But I know we can be reaching those 50+ maybe even 80+ if we were to go about everything how we have planned with short, mid and long term goals. They are pretty much dead on the same as HFFM as ThisHabbo everytime I check them other than when they have their giveaways or what not.
Unfortunately we've been told that we cannot host giveaways or win a room's etc. when there are events on as they take priority so don't say we should host more of those when DJs obviously are being told to advertise events that are on. I know many of the DJs (Popcorn, Curtis, Sarah, Markster, Myself) all have Giveaway rooms but we need to obviously make use of those. I wanted to speak to GM about this actually to get rights to at least book events for HxL because at the moment I have to go through events management and it is generally a pain.
I know we need more events but it is hard when I don't particularly have the funding to do so and we don't get a whole lot of donations anymore either. Hopefully we can get the DJs to start helping a little more with that. Many of them have with a 24hr Giveaway we have planned for tomorrow-Saturday. I try to sell lottery tickets too but usually to no avail other than to the DJs, and that usually ends up on DJ point rewards. (a system we have in place to reward those who do exceptionally well every month). Obviously HabboxLive suffered a tremedous knock before myself and Jazz were put in place and I genuinely feel it is recovering. Many of my short term goals have been achieved and work for our long term goals if ongoing and will hopefully come about.
Many of our DJs are good quality DJs, especially with some of the trialists we have had coming in. I give it that some may not be up to par but we are currently doing things about that. We regularly host feedback sessions and each month every DJ can expect to receive help in numerous ways other than reports. We have trialist mentoring schemes done by the seniors and as Grig may remember we also have the feedback PMs. I know Grig mentioned we have DJs coming in and out like there is no tomorrow. Unfortunately that is what HabboxLive is like and it's just one of those things. At the moment we have a pretty stable team and around about 15-20 international DJs can't remember of the top of my head so this side of things has incredibly improved since October.
Weekly shows are back, we do have two in place at the moment and are currently going through some more with DJs at the moment. Habbox Comps are going to be starting a weekly show which should be fun starting next Friday and Jack does a cool remix weekly show on Sunday. I believe Mark was looking into a game show type of thing and a couple of the seniors wanted to do a breakfast show on Saturday. We also have an idea for a chat show and even a podcast being set up at the moment. We're trying to get everyone to work around eachother so it's not 5 weekly shows on a Saturday rather than on odd days throughout the week.
I know before Jazz departed she was in talks with Jan about stuff for news and habboxlive so that is something I will continue to talk to Jan about so hopefully we can get something there. We're already having a 60-second news update being done everyday now which went quite good yesterday so hopefully will continue. I haven't been able to put them up is all because 1) We don't have graphics yet and 2) I only just received access to that again yesterday. I've wanted to update HabboxLive for ages but I'm not a coder and I presume that if I asked I would be told no point we're waiting on v7. So obviously we just work with the very old layout we have, which I 100% agree needs a revamp.
At the moment we now have a semi-big event every month until September planned so it's just a matter of working those out again and sorting them out. Obviously with Jazz leaving it's thrown a bit of a everything into the air kind of thing and I'm kind of running around trying to work out where to go from here but we'll get there thats the main thing.
The teams idea was put in place on a suggestion from Bethie and I do quite like it because it creates a nice little interdepartmental competition every week between the DJs when we have the weekly leaderboard posted to see who has done the most slots or got the most listeners etc. Obviously when people look at habboxlive.com and they see team alpha, bravo and delta they may think 'What on earth is this?!' but it's more for the benefit of the DJs and it doesn't appear on Habbox.com in that way. Obviously it would be nice to have them just appear under where they are from on hxl.com but yet again, coding and it would have be completed switched around as the panel takes from their team name and the DJs are all mixed together instead of having a distinction between ints and uk. If anything this has created a better connection between all the DJs as they all talk to eachother and get on well which I KNOW that is not the case at other fansites.
I know 100% that HabboxLive has it's flaws but at least we are trying to fix them and improve them which is the main thing as far as I'm concerned. The radio hardly ever has down time now except for maybe early morning slots but we only have two AU DJs so that is to be expected. As far as I'm concerned that is a push in the right direction for sure. We'll get to a point that I'm sure everyone will think HabboxLive has improved for the better, for my personally it isn't what it should be but I know for a fact as a department we are doing the best we can with what we have and that it will continue to improve day by day.
Zelda
04-04-2013, 10:00 AM
Tom js though I definitely agree with a lot of what you are saying, I really wouldn't call it a redundant role. The results of the survey sorta back that up too, think the numbers were around 43 read always 28 sometimes 23 don't , something around that off top of my head so its not like people don't read it, more that its just people who use forum don't read the news, only people who dont use forum which is why we need this sort of thing to boost people reading it who usr the forum.
FlyingJesus
04-04-2013, 10:07 AM
And also to bring those who do read it onto the forum and therefore into the community, win-win :D
Chug!
04-04-2013, 10:13 AM
Obviously I'm going to base my argument here on HabboxLive. I've been reading with interest over the past of days and have been thinking long and hard about HabboxLive. Our listeners are average. But I know we can be reaching those 50+ maybe even 80+ if we were to go about everything how we have planned with short, mid and long term goals. They are pretty much dead on the same as HFFM as ThisHabbo everytime I check them other than when they have their giveaways or what not.
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I know 100% that HabboxLive has it's flaws but at least we are trying to fix them and improve them which is the main thing as far as I'm concerned. The radio hardly ever has down time now except for maybe early morning slots but we only have two AU DJs so that is to be expected. As far as I'm concerned that is a push in the right direction for sure. We'll get to a point that I'm sure everyone will think HabboxLive has improved for the better, for my personally it isn't what it should be but I know for a fact as a department we are doing the best we can with what we have and that it will continue to improve day by day.
I won't quote it all, but seriously everything here is so true.
I hope staff members will start to become more involved, within the community; going down to these events, advertising habbox and habboxlive (&even the forum!) on the hotel. People seeing habboxlive will make people think 'o wow, habbox? I've heard of that!' and tbh even people who are new to habbo they will want to know what it is. Get people engaged! Although we can't all do giveaways or events when we'd like to, we can advertise and join in the ones the hosts are planning, and tbh thats what the hosts are there for!
Coming from a different fansite, to Habbox most recently I know what other fansites are doing, and ways in which another one gets there listeners, and yes.. it is through mainly giveaways, BUT, alot of the listeners I get are through loyal members who like listening to a certain DJ or a certain fansite. Get people interested in Habbox, and KABOOOM we got more listeners (And not just ones who bugger off every so often!)
Yes, Jazz has left over the last few days, but that doesn't mean Habbox will flop? Jade does an amazing job as Radio Manager (and tbh most fansite radio managers have just ONE area to cover, eg. UK or International!) She does it all. So, obviously she will need the help of donations, support on the hotel, advertisement etcetc. Let's get Habbox rolling again !
xx.
And also to bring those who do read it onto the forum and therefore into the community, win-win :D
This.
Inseriousity.
04-04-2013, 11:08 AM
Unfortunately we've been told that we cannot host giveaways or win a room's etc. when there are events on as they take priority
That's a misunderstanding. I meant avoiding clashes during big events. so habbox lottery, saturday night quiz and [insert new weekly events coming soon here]. Vice versa, events cant book at the same time as the big hxl events like the balls, the award ceremonies, the rare giveaways etc. but a win a room during a game of ff? Not a problem (and vice versa, an ff during a win a room, not a problem).
GoldenMerc
04-04-2013, 11:36 AM
unsure how lottery is a big event...
SNQ really isnt a big event ether, Although a lot of people turn up to it. It shouldn't be classed as a big event, big events are like HxSS etc... Don't see the problem with them clashing anyway really
scottish
04-04-2013, 11:48 AM
unsure how lottery is a big event...
SNQ really isnt a big event ether, Although a lot of people turn up to it. It shouldn't be classed as a big event, big events are like HxSS etc... Don't see the problem with them clashing anyway really
cause if you focus on a win a room and advertise it all over the site then the poor event host is going to have next to no-one turning up, then people show up and see a habbox room with like 2 visitors and think the sites dead when in fact they're all in the other room etc
Inseriousity.
04-04-2013, 11:48 AM
I'm defining big event by 'rarely done' rather than 'wahoo firework display'
Habbox Lottery, once a month. SNQ, once a week. Falling Furni, lots of them. Because they are rarely done, I see no reason to split the attendance when it can easily be avoided.
Foregetfuhl
04-04-2013, 12:48 PM
That's a misunderstanding. I meant avoiding clashes during big events. so habbox lottery, saturday night quiz and [insert new weekly events coming soon here]. Vice versa, events cant book at the same time as the big hxl events like the balls, the award ceremonies, the rare giveaways etc. but a win a room during a game of ff? Not a problem (and vice versa, an ff during a win a room, not a problem).
Oh I understand! The way I've been told by many users (not just yourself) it seemed that if we wanted to host such events we would need to book. It's also my understanding that before we had permissions to book events on the timetable as thats what one of the HxL department told me. I understood that it would be unfair to the events department because I'm sure compared to fallin furni and bingos people would much rather giveaways, win a rooms and events such as those. Thats why I assumed that the split in people was not recommended?
Samantha
04-04-2013, 03:27 PM
Coming back to the fact new people aren't welcome, you're so right, I was in an event the other day on a clone due to it being HxEE I came in on that name - I got told to shut up and **** you just because I said I didn't know how to play, if I was a new person I wouldn't stay for that. I remember the same happening to me at a HFFM event and as you can see I'm not at HFFM.
Attitudes have changed, people should be wanting new people to join and not drive them away, this isn't aimed at anyone I just thought it would fit.
Team DJs up with events staff. When an event is being hosted make sure the DJ knows it and directs people to it rather than "come dance with me in hxhd loal :D". Let hxl staff book events on timetable too tbh and if it gets too much then restrict each staff - hxl to 1 event per day and events to 2-3.
Kinda unrelated but I was in an event yesterday (higher or lower) and a bacon struts in rolls the dice and gets a 6. People from the line (including habbox regulars!) start shouting HIGHER HIGHER HIGHER so the girl confirms and says higher, rolls the next dice and gets a lower number.... OBVIOUSLY. The host - despite not even attempting to explain the rules properly - says the usual "plz ex.it without dot". WHAT? No wonder people who attend events don't sign up to habbox, they're not there long enough to find out about it!
xxMATTGxx
04-04-2013, 04:51 PM
Coming back to the fact new people aren't welcome, you're so right, I was in an event the other day on a clone due to it being HxEE I came in on that name - I got told to shut up and **** you just because I said I didn't know how to play, if I was a new person I wouldn't stay for that. I remember the same happening to me at a HFFM event and as you can see I'm not at HFFM.
Attitudes have changed, people should be wanting new people to join and not drive them away, this isn't aimed at anyone I just thought it would fit.
Exactly - Was these normal members of Habbox saying these things or staff?
Samantha
04-04-2013, 04:58 PM
Exactly - Was these normal members of Habbox saying these things or staff?
Staff members, they were a trialist when they did it but staff nevertheless; I think I CCed you in that PM :P.
xxMATTGxx
04-04-2013, 05:06 PM
Staff members, they were a trialist when they did it but staff nevertheless; I think I CCed you in that PM :P.
Ah yes, I remember now.
AgnesIO
04-04-2013, 05:19 PM
DJ's don't necessarily need to plug events that much.
THe events staff need to plug Habbox - you need new users at events, not existing.
Obviously don't ban existing members - but the whole point in events is to get the Habbox name on habbo!
That is essentially a messier backwards version of having threads which are shown on the main site
There doesn't need to be a separate section, you could have some official news tag that only staff can use if it's that important to them but as you say there's no point having a thread in news and rumours (or Habbo news or whatever) and one elsewhere, so why do we do that with the site? It makes far far far more sense to host all discussion in one place (and clearly the forum would be the best venue for that) and then on the site it would simply be a case of copy&paste and instead of a comments box a link to the forum thread for discussion. That way as I said before people would actually read the articles and get involved, and it would give some validity to the role of news reporter which quite frankly there isn't at the moment
Previously we had a stupid bot which posted every single article it could find and clogged up the forum, I don't think anyone's advocating for that this time around. The part I've emboldened explains why in its current format the news team is utterly pointless, which could be solved with the above suggestion :P
Nah that bot if I can remember took things from the site and then glitched every time an edit was made to an article. It was a massive headache.
So, you propose to have an [Official News] tag for the news department to use. But that would be silly, mainly because normal users post news for discussion within minutes or hours at the worst, whilst the news department can take days and obviously they re-phrase and write more detail on the stories. So, if this is the case, the news department would be simply defunct.
But I was aware that xxMATTGxx; did a survey and got positive results for people reading it on the site? Obviously I cannot know the statistics nowadays and the being day(s) late is a massive problem, but if people actually read it and want it, then that is another situation. In that case, everything and anything must be done to save Habbo news. Close down all real-life news sections and get people to solely focus on Habbo SPOT news stories, i.e. not featured reports on some piece of furniture, but rather rolling news of an unreleased rare or something else.
Oh I understand! The way I've been told by many users (not just yourself) it seemed that if we wanted to host such events we would need to book. It's also my understanding that before we had permissions to book events on the timetable as thats what one of the HxL department told me. I understood that it would be unfair to the events department because I'm sure compared to fallin furni and bingos people would much rather giveaways, win a rooms and events such as those. Thats why I assumed that the split in people was not recommended?
This has always been possible and I remember I did it and we had a full giveaway and a full event. More ways to promote Habbox! No one department should suffer because another one cannot work harder to get people into their rooms. I never booked and often would decide a few minutes beforehand, so I'd actually love to see stuff like that more regularly.
FlyingJesus
06-04-2013, 04:12 PM
So, you propose to have an [Official News] tag for the news department to use. But that would be silly, mainly because normal users post news for discussion within minutes or hours at the worst, whilst the news department can take days and obviously they re-phrase and write more detail on the stories. So, if this is the case, the news department would be simply defunct.
The department is essentially defunct. If non-news people are constantly being able to bring up new issues and start discussions on them long before anyone on the staff manages to even hear of it then perhaps the news team's job ought to just be adding hot threads to the main site so that such topics are seen and discussed by a wide audience without us having to wait 3 days to see an article on something we already know all about
But I was aware that xxMATTGxx; did a survey and got positive results for people reading it on the site? Obviously I cannot know the statistics nowadays and the being day(s) late is a massive problem, but if people actually read it and want it, then that is another situation. In that case, everything and anything must be done to save Habbo news. Close down all real-life news sections and get people to solely focus on Habbo SPOT news stories, i.e. not featured reports on some piece of furniture, but rather rolling news of an unreleased rare or something else.
I agree that news as a whole shouldn't disappear and that the main focus should be on Habbo, but the reality is that the current team aren't on top of it and aren't efficient even when they do get a whiff of a story, and frankly it wouldn't be fair or realistic to expect them to be at all times. Using the above suggestion would mean that Habbox is on trend with stories as they come out whilst involving the community - and the chance of being featured on the main site would also be incentive for regular users to be more pro-active in posting sourced findings to spark some interesting comments. News staff would have the opportunity to write a cover blurb when they add the thread to the main site so their apparent writing skills aren't neglected, but it would merely require a short summary and therefore be far easier and allow for more to be done
The department is essentially defunct. If non-news people are constantly being able to bring up new issues and start discussions on them long before anyone on the staff manages to even hear of it then perhaps the news team's job ought to just be adding hot threads to the main site so that such topics are seen and discussed by a wide audience without us having to wait 3 days to see an article on something we already know all about
I agree that news as a whole shouldn't disappear and that the main focus should be on Habbo, but the reality is that the current team aren't on top of it and aren't efficient even when they do get a whiff of a story, and frankly it wouldn't be fair or realistic to expect them to be at all times. Using the above suggestion would mean that Habbox is on trend with stories as they come out whilst involving the community - and the chance of being featured on the main site would also be incentive for regular users to be more pro-active in posting sourced findings to spark some interesting comments. News staff would have the opportunity to write a cover blurb when they add the thread to the main site so their apparent writing skills aren't neglected, but it would merely require a short summary and therefore be far easier and allow for more to be done
Absolutely, and that is the most sensible thing to do. Otherwise the department is useless. All these silly ideas such as let's do an article on an credits and talk all about credits. How can one propose to do such featured stories when your main focus of spot news is getting limited/ late coverage.
The most utterly ridiculous thing, is news reporters and managers simply pasting a link to the HxF news forum and telling them to do an article. They don't bother to do any research and simply post an article from it. It's stupid and if people are that lazy, they should be reprimanded for being so.
Although, this is what you and I wish should happen, but the reality is, there probably would be some silly plan to post more featured articles and do nothing to tackle the fundamental problem here. What managers need more of on Habbox is the sense of risk-taking. Clearly from this whole thread, we don't get more users, probably because we still are still living in 2008 and need more innovation.
Janice; I am also aware that loads of people who do read news don't go on HxF, but it is not an excuse when say other sites can post it faster. That and the fact that it would still be easier to do what Tom said, rather than using an inefficient system.
Zelda
06-04-2013, 05:13 PM
@Janice (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=88462); I am also aware that loads of people who do read news don't go on HxF, but it is not an excuse when say other sites can post it faster. That and the fact that it would still be easier to do what Tom said, rather than using an inefficient system.
It's a pretty good reason not to bash us down with the news & rumours forum arguement though.
People might not notice it massively, but our posting time HAS improved recently quite a bit, and we are actually working on making us hopefully as quick as possible. Tbh it is a pity we don't have the feeds anymore but since we don't we can't just keep using that as a reason, but what we have started to get going now a few different techniques that can hopefully get our news out quickly, including going on the spanish hotel to get news as it is posted there earlier then on .com .
In terms of Tom's idea it is definitely a good suggestion but the worry is that the feedback shows that the people who read the news are actually very fond of the current format and it's not something we should just be scrapping like that really.
AgnesIO
07-04-2013, 10:21 PM
It's a pretty good reason not to bash us down with the news & rumours forum arguement though.
People might not notice it massively, but our posting time HAS improved recently quite a bit, and we are actually working on making us hopefully as quick as possible. Tbh it is a pity we don't have the feeds anymore but since we don't we can't just keep using that as a reason, but what we have started to get going now a few different techniques that can hopefully get our news out quickly, including going on the spanish hotel to get news as it is posted there earlier then on .com .
In terms of Tom's idea it is definitely a good suggestion but the worry is that the feedback shows that the people who read the news are actually very fond of the current format and it's not something we should just be scrapping like that really.
If they don't already, get the news team to subscribe to the Habbo News and Rumours forum. Then they'll be able to check their suer cp and always see anything new quickly.
Kardan
07-04-2013, 10:31 PM
One of the fansites had an official habbo event (maybe ThisHabbo?) and you had to get codes to win a badge, and they had to visit the website to get some of the codes. Perhaps if Habbox gets another oppourtunity to do this, perhaps put the codes on the forum and make it to get the higher leveled codes they have to have so many posts on the forum, 10 for example. Then hope that some people like what they see and stick around? The issue isn't about getting new features to keep users around, it's getting new users to join.
sexpot
07-04-2013, 10:37 PM
One of the fansites had an official habbo event (maybe ThisHabbo?) and you had to get codes to win a badge, and they had to visit the website to get some of the codes. Perhaps if Habbox gets another oppourtunity to do this, perhaps put the codes on the forum and make it to get the higher leveled codes they have to have so many posts on the forum, 10 for example. Then hope that some people like what they see and stick around? The issue isn't about getting new features to keep users around, it's getting new users to join.
People would spam post, get the codes, and then leave. or they'd just get them from friends previously registered otf.
AgnesIO
07-04-2013, 10:42 PM
People would spam post, get the codes, and then leave. or they'd just get them from friends previously registered otf.
But if ten in 500 didn't do that, and stayed to post it would be worthwhile.
sexpot
07-04-2013, 10:50 PM
ten out of 500 wouldn't produce the desired results of getting habbox active again.
scottish
07-04-2013, 10:52 PM
It would however bring 10 people here who weren't before this 'program' or whatever started
sexpot
07-04-2013, 10:54 PM
how long would they stay, though? I hate to sound like j0rd here but y'know.
Kardan
07-04-2013, 10:55 PM
how long would they stay, though? I hate to sound like j0rd here but y'know.
What's the harm in trying?
AgnesIO
07-04-2013, 10:58 PM
ten out of 500 wouldn't produce the desired results of getting habbox active again.
Ten active users would be a good gain - you don't often get new users who are active and posting a lot for a long time.
how long would they stay, though? I hate to sound like j0rd here but y'know.
You could, of course, do nothing and hope for someone to pull out their wand :L
Samantha
07-04-2013, 11:01 PM
If they don't already, get the news team to subscribe to the Habbo News and Rumours forum. Then they'll be able to check their suer cp and always see anything new quickly.
The reason I don't think we need or should do this is the fact that then we still won't be quicker than we already are will we? I've bulked up the news tasks forum these past few days with about 10-15 reports to do and that was mainly from Habbo News and Rumours, that way I do agree if the news isn't as new as we'd like but usually we can also find it out by other means before news and rumours. Like Kardan; pointed out usually we link just to the article but due to some not wanting that we give a little snippet or a spoiler if you will.
sexpot
07-04-2013, 11:02 PM
Ten active users would be a good gain - you don't often get new users who are active and posting a lot for a long time.
You could, of course, do nothing and hope for someone to pull out their wand :L
I am just saying that it's not guaranteed that these proverbial 10 members will stay, and if they don't then the whole operation will have been for naught
AgnesIO
07-04-2013, 11:10 PM
I am just saying that it's not guaranteed that these proverbial 10 members will stay, and if they don't then the whole operation will have been for naught
If Thomas Edison, Alexander Graham Bell, Bill Gates and so on had that attitude, imagine what today's world would be like!
"Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up." ~ Thomas Edison
sexpot
07-04-2013, 11:14 PM
If Thomas Edison, Alexander Graham Bell, Bill Gates and so on had that attitude, imagine what today's world would be like!
"Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up." ~ Thomas Edison
Those people were working on something that had the potential to have far more success and benefits than an online forum gaining more members.
Zelda
07-04-2013, 11:15 PM
Yea as sam said we do preferably wanna try beat news & rumours, which is why we do suggest people use external methods to try and get it, I know we have a sources thread up from lovely mr warren and we also suggest looking at foreign fansites and hotels etc. Maybe this is something we should probably remind the staff in all honesty, and tag them all in warrens thread or something so yea this is something thats on our top priorities though really.
AgnesIO
07-04-2013, 11:16 PM
Those people were working on something that had the potential to have far more success and benefits than an online forum gaining more members.
My point was, if you sit back and do nothing you will not succeed.
If you try, you at least stand a chance.
Rachel
08-04-2013, 01:51 AM
This thread is still going and was there any changes? No. You can't expect old forum users to come back to a forum related about Habbo. It's not just Habbox who the activity is going low, other fansites too. How's that? Well to be honest it was like this since of them merge which I guarantee that it is why every fansite went a bit low in activity.
FlyingJesus
08-04-2013, 02:29 AM
The issue isn't about getting new features to keep users around, it's getting new users to join.
This is actually the exact opposite of the truth and has been for years :P There has always been a decent flow of new users joining, just not actively becoming part of the community. Unfortunately people with less than 10 posts don't show up on the member list any more (no idea why) so I can't check how many people are joining and not taking part like I did before
In 2009 it was:
4 new members today so far, 12 yesterday. Of those 16 only 5 posted at all, three of whom only posted once and the most having 4 posts. Only 15 of this month's 233 new members have gone over 10 posts while 157 of them haven't posted a single thing.
That was posted on the 16th of the month so it's not completely comparable to this month's figures of 4 people going over 10 posts so far, but 10 did so in total last month so clearly there's still a massive issue with making those people who do sign up feel like they want to participate (would still be interesting to see the stats for how many are currently signing up per month, shame we can't do that through member list any more)
i couldn't sleep and i ran out of blogs to read so popped on and decided to have a good read of the feedback and then i thought i'd find my password and have a good post.
the decline of habbox is not a new thing but that doesn't mean you attack everyone who decides to breach the subject. especially when they are new and you are staff, tremendous thinking.
i am shocked to see news/hxl/rare values still operating and also v6... hxl is fundamentally flawed now by the fact that times have changed, i used to use habbo radios in a time when if i wanted to hear a song it'd take an hour to download... nowadays teens can listen to what they want, when they want. radio isn't really a part of general society now either so they're not likely to look for radio to tune into. i would tune in to hear something of skill: e.g someone mixing or someone presenting new bands or talent (which really isn't that hard to find. 100s of bands would legally let you play their music in return for some publicity. they may even give you an interview.) I don't think hxl is 'with the times at all' and i genuinely think you'd get more listeners if you dropped habbo from the radio and made it more interactive and less generic.
news, again, have you ever thought of turning articles into blogs? I'm not talking about you sharing with habbox your day at college but perhaps actually discuss habbo rumours? habbo past. have a different post daily from a different staff member. keep it fresh. then if you perhaps had a none habbo thing (e.g tech) you could throw it in. for example discuss habboxlive and then do a review of headsets to use as DJs? it wouldn't be hard to search the internet for reviews to accumulate and at the end you could have a roundup of today in habbo. or simply have a feed linked to the news forum with threads to current news along with the blogs.
dunno bout rare values but I do know last year they seemed irrelevant and I expect that's hardly changed.
also with the forum, barely use it but it never seems to be truly hip and happening.
edible
08-04-2013, 09:42 AM
habbox has one thing that no other fansite has and will never have (whilst habbox remains open) and that is the biggest habbo following. their habbo discussion forum is their most popular (i think, cba to check) places like habbcrazy / hffm / thishabbo have **** habbo sections on their forum and it's frustrating that habbox does nothing for their habbo users (i'm not counting tacky events). there are no big competitions where you can win a throne. i remember when i worked in hxhd, adzeh would sit in hxhd and give away a throne each week. i don't think i've seen habbox do anything like that for a good while. if they did all the current habbo users would be interested (who doesn't want a throne...) and it would undoubtedly attract new users.
i just dont think the admins/management care enough. you can see some of them in this thread so dismissive of new ideas.
AgnesIO
08-04-2013, 10:40 AM
i couldn't sleep and i ran out of blogs to read so popped on and decided to have a good read of the feedback and then i thought i'd find my password and have a good post.
the decline of habbox is not a new thing but that doesn't mean you attack everyone who decides to breach the subject. especially when they are new and you are staff, tremendous thinking.
i am shocked to see news/hxl/rare values still operating and also v6... hxl is fundamentally flawed now by the fact that times have changed, i used to use habbo radios in a time when if i wanted to hear a song it'd take an hour to download... nowadays teens can listen to what they want, when they want. radio isn't really a part of general society now either so they're not likely to look for radio to tune into. i would tune in to hear something of skill: e.g someone mixing or someone presenting new bands or talent (which really isn't that hard to find. 100s of bands would legally let you play their music in return for some publicity. they may even give you an interview.) I don't think hxl is 'with the times at all' and i genuinely think you'd get more listeners if you dropped habbo from the radio and made it more interactive and less generic.
dunno bout rare values but I do know last year they seemed irrelevant and I expect that's hardly changed.
also with the forum, barely use it but it never seems to be truly hip and happening.
A very good point about HxL - Spotify is a clear example of this. Maybe they need more habbo speech segments, as opposed to music (which people can get so easily now it is untrue!)
habbox has one thing that no other fansite has and will never have (whilst habbox remains open) and that is the biggest habbo following. their habbo discussion forum is their most popular (i think, cba to check) places like habbcrazy / hffm / thishabbo have **** habbo sections on their forum and it's frustrating that habbox does nothing for their habbo users (i'm not counting tacky events). there are no big competitions where you can win a throne. i remember when i worked in hxhd, adzeh would sit in hxhd and give away a throne each week. i don't think i've seen habbox do anything like that for a good while. if they did all the current habbo users would be interested (who doesn't want a throne...) and it would undoubtedly attract new users.
i just dont think the admins/management care enough. you can see some of them in this thread so dismissive of new ideas.
Win a throne is great, if someone has it to give. I have part funded HxSS in the past, but there is no way someone would be willing to fund a casual win a throne competition, as the people who would enter are the "already here users" on the forum - and they simply are not the target market. More to the point, the vast majority of users who actually have thrones use black market trading websites. And Habbox fires anyone they know who does that.
HFFM has a popular on-habbo scene - and I would be shocked if that doesn't gain them users.
edible
08-04-2013, 10:58 AM
A very good point about HxL - Spotify is a clear example of this. Maybe they need more habbo speech segments, as opposed to music (which people can get so easily now it is untrue!)
Win a throne is great, if someone has it to give. I have part funded HxSS in the past, but there is no way someone would be willing to fund a casual win a throne competition, as the people who would enter are the "already here users" on the forum - and they simply are not the target market. More to the point, the vast majority of users who actually have thrones use black market trading websites. And Habbox fires anyone they know who does that.
HFFM has a popular on-habbo scene - and I would be shocked if that doesn't gain them users.
yeah, but my point is if you check the habbo forums on habbox(habbo news and rumours) it's a very popular section. that means there is a demand for habbo. the habbo discussion on here is superior to any fansite with ease. that is habbox's strength and it is time they started playing to their strengths. for example, staff use habbox more than the other fansites, why don't they try to get exclusive interviews up. announce they have a big interview going live at 9pm, drum up some interest, it's just so dull on here and it really doesn't have to be. so many things they could do. that's just one.
habbox has one thing that no other fansite has and will never have (whilst habbox remains open) and that is the biggest habbo following. their habbo discussion forum is their most popular (i think, cba to check) places like habbcrazy / hffm / thishabbo have **** habbo sections on their forum and it's frustrating that habbox does nothing for their habbo users (i'm not counting tacky events). there are no big competitions where you can win a throne. i remember when i worked in hxhd, adzeh would sit in hxhd and give away a throne each week. i don't think i've seen habbox do anything like that for a good while. if they did all the current habbo users would be interested (who doesn't want a throne...) and it would undoubtedly attract new users.
i just dont think the admins/management care enough. you can see some of them in this thread so dismissive of new ideas.
the news forum should definitely become a basis from which to build habbox news since it is so popular. maybe if newa reporters actually discussed the news with the community theyd be more inclined to stay.
also i think those kind of events are key to attracting and keeping new members but from what i remember last year no one has the funds and the donations that used to roll in just don't come anymore.
perhaps as (i think) kyle mentioned earlier habbox could look into buying from the black market? its not ideal but its certainly cheaper.
Maybe the news reports could talk about actually getting new badges and guides how to get them (that ate posted before users do) rather than 200 words on a badge that literally no one wants to and is going to read. Has anyone seen the amounts of comments under the newly opened habbo secrets site where they explain how to get badges not post some boring long article about the band design??
It would defiantly bring way more people to the site, and if you say leave it to version 7 or try take and amount of time like always to start doing this there's no point because people will be accustomed to using other sites..
AgnesIO
08-04-2013, 04:02 PM
Maybe the news reports could talk about actually getting new badges and guides how to get them (that ate posted before users do) rather than 200 words on a badge that literally no one wants to and is going to read. Has anyone seen the amounts of comments under the newly opened habbo secrets site where they explain how to get badges not post some boring long article about the band design??
It would defiantly bring way more people to the site, and if you say leave it to version 7 or try take and amount of time like always to start doing this there's no point because people will be accustomed to using other sites..
Only been posting around in feedback for a month, and already sick to death of "v7 this that and the other" :L Just an excuse to put things back in my eyes (then the excuse is "well we keep adding more cool features so it takes longer!").
Definitely though, not sure if they still do but at one point news reporters started doing the whole "My opinion on this is it is a nice design" - when in all honesty, I doubt many people could give two flying .... about the news reporter's (er volunteer) opinion.
v7 is a joke. last march when i was hxl management with jess, we spent ages designing the hxl merge and we were told it was a matter of weeks. a year on and hxl are definitely suffering from the lack of change.
the lack of v7 is stilting some departments so badly, its literally bringing everything down.
AgnesIO
08-04-2013, 04:24 PM
v7 is a joke. last march when i was hxl management with jess, we spent ages designing the hxl merge and we were told it was a matter of weeks. a year on and hxl are definitely suffering from the lack of change.
the lack of v7 is stilting some departments so badly, its literally bringing everything down.
Fantastic - making V6 sound like a fast process by all accounts :L
Zelda
08-04-2013, 06:31 PM
That's actually a really good idea tbh graham and I think it probably is something I will mention in a thread I'm preparing about the feedback we've getting tbh! Cause ye people do literally try and thicken out to get their word count minimum with the opinions when how to get them would give a lot of words anyway and attract far more readers.
Rixion
08-04-2013, 07:11 PM
A grand pour of new members is just what the forum needs, since most people here just aren't able to get on here as much anymore.
Since
09-04-2013, 12:29 PM
Other fansites such as HFFM are getting more audience than us and that bothers me. The board should take action, but we should also help?
What should we do so that Habbox doesn't go to an eternal hiatus?
I didn't know Matt resigned and you took his place.
See above for one reason.
j0rd and Inseriousity., you should both be ashamed of yourself. This guy is trying to generate ideas to help a dying site and you are taking the piss, especially Inseriousity. who is a "Community" AGM. With your attitude, this forum will indeed die.
Samantha
09-04-2013, 12:34 PM
Maybe the news reports could talk about actually getting new badges and guides how to get them (that ate posted before users do) rather than 200 words on a badge that literally no one wants to and is going to read. Has anyone seen the amounts of comments under the newly opened habbo secrets site where they explain how to get badges not post some boring long article about the band design??
It would defiantly bring way more people to the site, and if you say leave it to version 7 or try take and amount of time like always to start doing this there's no point because people will be accustomed to using other sites..
We're not really allowed to give answers or anything, we could though if we used the long story option so you can read if you want - it would help if we could have spoilers in the reports or really just linking to the guide on Habbox Forum could help a little bit.
Inseriousity.
09-04-2013, 12:35 PM
I basically said what you said in 5 words.
Since
09-04-2013, 12:38 PM
I basically said what you said in 5 words.
If you are flaming j0rd for his attitude then I apologise for mis-reading your post.
Inseriousity.
09-04-2013, 12:41 PM
That's fine. Welcome to the forum btw.
We're not really allowed to give answers or anything
Says who?
Kardan
09-04-2013, 12:49 PM
Fantastic - making V6 sound like a fast process by all accounts :L
Just because V6 was slow, doesn't make V7's slowness acceptable. It's a known fact that most areas of Habbox are suffering because of V7, mostly because "Oh yeah, that will be updated when V7 happens..."
@j0rd (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=56465) and @Inseriousity. (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=26409), you should both be ashamed of yourself. This guy is trying to generate ideas to help a dying site and you are taking the piss, especially Inseriousity. who is a "Community" AGM. With your attitude, this forum will indeed die.
What? read what Mike posted properly. He posted saying my post is why activity is down...
And also there is a reason why I haven't posted in the thread in over a week. It is just my opinion, Habbo is suffering which is having a massive effect on the activity of fansites (no need to explain why really..). Habbox is never going to be the same unless something is done with the source of the problem, which happens to be Habbo.
Since
09-04-2013, 12:52 PM
I just had a quick skim read of the thread so if my ideas have previously been suggested, I apologise:
1) On Habbox.com, where the recent Forum Posts tab is, may be have that only show posts from Competitions section to entice people to visit or add a new tab for competitions with latest competitions listed in a prominent place as the Forum Posts tab.
2) If Habbox mgmt is rich enough, make a casino. Yes people might get scammed etc but people know the risk or a popular trade room. People visit these and having HABBOX.COM on the top of Popular Rooms list will get you more hits.
3) Make a popular games room like Takeshi/Carnival and try to keep it running for the majority of the day through various official hosts. This would once again advertise Habbox.com and get people to visit. Have Bots or Hosts say "WHILE YOU WAIT IN LINE, WHY NOT VISIT HABBOX.COM FOR MORE COMPETITIONS AND FUN" or something similar.
Times such as Easter holidays are the perfect time to make use of the above opportunities.
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What? read what Mike posted properly. He posted saying my post is why activity is down...
And also there is a reason why I haven't posted in the thread in over a week. It is just my opinion, Habbo is suffering which is having a massive effect on the activity of fansites (no need to explain why really..). Habbox is never going to be the same unless something is done with the source of the problem, which happens to be Habbo.
Yes but no need to reply with such a rude post to the thread starter or call me an "idiot" in reputation. No wonder this form is dying, it's because morons such as yourself are moderators.
Samantha
09-04-2013, 12:56 PM
That's fine. Welcome to the forum btw.
Says who?
We're not allowed to post answers without a spoiler on the forum, surely we can't have them on the front page of Habbox unless we use the long story option.
I just had a quick skim read of the thread so if my ideas have previously been suggested, I apologise:
1) On Habbox.com, where the recent Forum Posts tab is, may be have that only show posts from Competitions section to entice people to visit or add a new tab for competitions with latest competitions listed in a prominent place as the Forum Posts tab.
2) If Habbox mgmt is rich enough, make a casino. Yes people might get scammed etc but people know the risk or a popular trade room. People visit these and having HABBOX.COM on the top of Popular Rooms list will get you more hits.
3) Make a popular games room like Takeshi/Carnival and try to keep it running for the majority of the day through various official hosts. This would once again advertise Habbox.com and get people to visit. Have Bots or Hosts say "WHILE YOU WAIT IN LINE, WHY NOT VISIT HABBOX.COM FOR MORE COMPETITIONS AND FUN" or something similar.
Times such as Easter holidays are the perfect time to make use of the above opportunities.
Habbox is already sponsored by Varnius' Trade City so the Trading section is pretty much dominated by that. Casinos are never a good idea in regards to a fansite I personally feel, any scams will just be referred to Habbox and make it look bad.
xxMATTGxx
09-04-2013, 12:57 PM
We're not allowed to post answers without a spoiler on the forum, surely we can't have them on the front page of Habbox unless we use the long story option.
People have posted links to guides for the stuff without spoilers I believe. So I don't think it will be a problem.
Chippiewill
09-04-2013, 12:57 PM
Just because V6 was slow, doesn't make V7's slowness acceptable. It's a known fact that most areas of Habbox are suffering because of V7, mostly because "Oh yeah, that will be updated when V7 happens..."
It has already been stated why V6 is not being updated and why it will not be updated. Please stop beating a dead horse.
Samantha
09-04-2013, 12:58 PM
I just had a quick skim read of the thread so if my ideas have previously been suggested, I apologise:
1) On Habbox.com, where the recent Forum Posts tab is, may be have that only show posts from Competitions section to entice people to visit or add a new tab for competitions with latest competitions listed in a prominent place as the Forum Posts tab.
2) If Habbox mgmt is rich enough, make a casino. Yes people might get scammed etc but people know the risk or a popular trade room. People visit these and having HABBOX.COM on the top of Popular Rooms list will get you more hits.
3) Make a popular games room like Takeshi/Carnival and try to keep it running for the majority of the day through various official hosts. This would once again advertise Habbox.com and get people to visit. Have Bots or Hosts say "WHILE YOU WAIT IN LINE, WHY NOT VISIT HABBOX.COM FOR MORE COMPETITIONS AND FUN" or something similar.
Times such as Easter holidays are the perfect time to make use of the above opportunities.
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Yes but no need to reply with such a rude post to the thread starter or call me an "idiot" in reputation. No wonder this form is dying, it's because morons such as yourself are moderators.
On the site if you click Inventory you have a widget for Competitions that you can put on your front page :) x.
Inseriousity.
09-04-2013, 12:58 PM
We're not allowed to post answers without a spoiler on the forum, surely we can't have them on the front page of Habbox unless we use the long story option.
I think a short
'If you want to know the answers, click here' bolded red or whatever and a link to the forum thread in the short story wouldn't be long enough to warrant the use of hiding it away in the long story.
Samantha
09-04-2013, 01:00 PM
People have posted links to guides for the stuff without spoilers I believe. So I don't think it will be a problem.
A guide is fine, as long as if we post answers they're in long story as if I came on to Habbox.com saw the answers, I'd be pretty annoyed because then it's not like I can do it myself :P.
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I think a short
'If you want to know the answers, click here' bolded red or whatever and a link to the forum thread in the short story wouldn't be long enough to warrant the use of hiding it away in the long story.
I did say have a link to the forum earlier so I agree :P.
Kardan
09-04-2013, 01:12 PM
It has already been stated why V6 is not being updated and why it will not be updated. Please stop beating a dead horse.
I don't expect V6 to be updated, I'm just agreeing with beth; that the lack of V7 means a lack of updates, which of course isn't a good thing :P I do realise that moaning about the lack of V7 won't make V7 come along any quicker :P
scottish
09-04-2013, 02:33 PM
It has already been stated why V6 is not being updated and why it will not be updated. Please stop beating a dead horse.
Well hurry the **** up with V7 then...
You can't say 'oh i'm not going to update this i'll implement it in v7' then a year and a half (at least idk how long this joke has been in development) later it's still not even near release.
v7 is surely 18 months in development now, christmas 2011 we were talking about the hxl merge as imminent.
i understand you can't rush these things but in all honesty what does habbox have to lose now by releasing even a 75% finished site.
events are one thing but what is the point in having new brilliant events and then have them arrive at v6?! habbo users of today expect more.
(i do understand v7 took a hit when hoteluser left but that can't really be an excuse for the length of this project)
AgnesIO
09-04-2013, 04:26 PM
v7 is surely 18 months in development now, christmas 2011 we were talking about the hxl merge as imminent.
i understand you can't rush these things but in all honesty what does habbox have to lose now by releasing even a 75% finished site.
events are one thing but what is the point in having new brilliant events and then have them arrive at v6?! habbo users of today expect more.
(i do understand v7 took a hit when hoteluser left but that can't really be an excuse for the length of this project)
Imagine if Apple talked up a new product..
"We are super excited to reveal we will be releasing the iWatch!!" ... 18 months later; "Don't worry the iWatch is coming soon!!"
:S
its ridiculous.
also not to nitpick but decided to have a gander at habbox.com what is with all the random bolding in the news articles. i understand highlighting key points but really rather overkill.
Kardan
09-04-2013, 04:32 PM
Imagine if Apple talked up a new product..
"We are super excited to reveal we will be releasing the iWatch!!" ... 18 months later; "Don't worry the iWatch is coming soon!!"
:S
And, "We won't update any of our other products until we get the iWatch out!"
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its ridiculous.
also not to nitpick but decided to have a gander at habbox.com what is with all the random bolding in the news articles. i understand highlighting key points but really rather overkill.
Oh, I've had an issue with this for ages. Some news reports do it fine, just bold the key parts. Others bold a random word every sentence :P
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What a 13,000th post!
AgnesIO
09-04-2013, 04:35 PM
its ridiculous.
also not to nitpick but decided to have a gander at habbox.com what is with all the random bolding in the news articles. i understand highlighting key points but really rather overkill.
I swear we had a big moan about that ages ago lol
SO for news;
- Scrap unnecessary bolding
- Scrap opinions
- Badge guides
- Keeping them short and to the point
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And tell me about it, Kardan :L (well done on 13k posts :P)
oh sorry if i'm repeating someone hah i don't come on here really anymore, i jus a have an essay due for uni next week and i'm procrastinating.
its just annoying, it doesn't even make sense to skim through just reading the bold parts which it should if it's done properly for quick reading.
Brice
09-04-2013, 04:39 PM
cos habox *REMOVED*
Edited by Matts (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't avoid the filter!
David
09-04-2013, 04:45 PM
legit think brian is trying to get banned on all fansites
cos habox *REMOVED*
GoldenMerc
09-04-2013, 05:13 PM
cos habox *REMOVED*
legit think brian is trying to get banned on all fansites
brice is habbox's main source of entertainment
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