stop.habbox.com

[mrwoooooooo]

wtf is this ****?

[HarrySX]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=775086

[scottish]

habbox's latest tool to kill off the remainder of new comers and activity.

[Jarkie]

Outrage!

There is no way I'm letting this site show of its rubbish adverts just so you can make a quick buck.

way to by-pass: just log in with Incognito browser setting or (Private browsing.).

Good bye, Habboxforum.

[Samantha]

Wonderful, I use Internet Explorer lmao, I don't block ads so I haven't had this problem yet :P.

[Recursion]

Maybe read the page and if you're still not happy moan at @Jin (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=65);. I've been putting this off for months as it is.

And @Jarkie (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=18695); maybe again, if you read the page, Habbox makes no quick buck and in actual fact server costs are in excess of $300 a month and Jin has been paying for a fair chunk of this out of his own pocket, Habbox makes a substantial loss and you're lucky it's still here as it is.

[GoldenMerc]

Maybe read the page and if you're still not happy moan at @Jin (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=65);. I've been putting this off for months as it is.

And Jarkie; maybe again, if you read the page, Habbox makes no quick buck and in actual fact server costs are in excess of $300 a month and Jin has been paying for a fair chunk of this out of his own pocket, Habbox makes a substantial loss.

Don't think this will solve anything though

Sent from Phone

[Jarkie]

Maybe read the page and if you're still not happy moan at @Jin (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=65);. I've been putting this off for months as it is.

And @Jarkie (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=18695); maybe again, if you read the page, Habbox makes no quick buck and in actual fact server costs are in excess of $300 a month and Jin has been paying for a fair chunk of this out of his own pocket, Habbox makes a substantial loss and you're lucky it's still here as it is.

If money is such an issue, why not call it aday and say bye bye to this habbo fansite​.

[scottish]

Outrage!

There is no way I'm letting this site show of its rubbish adverts just so you can make a quick buck.

way to by-pass: just log in with Incognito browser setting or (Private browsing.).

Good bye, Habboxforum.

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=775086

there's alternative ways to do so in that

[sex]

this is worse than when thishabbo asked its users to pay for them to stop ddosing it

---------- Post added 13-04-2013 at 02:35 PM ----------

i thought vip users dont have to look at adverts....what happened to that

[scottish]

this is worse than when thishabbo asked its users to pay for them to stop ddosing it

---------- Post added 13-04-2013 at 02:35 PM ----------

i thought vip users dont have to look at adverts....what happened to that

what's never been the case has it? we've always had adverts I thought, idk i've blocked them for years but can't ever remember that.

[GoldenMerc]

Yeh everyone's always seen ads

Sent from Phone

[sex]

i cudda sworn no adverts was a feature of vip ages ago. dunno though..

im getting muslim dating sites again when i never searched dating sites OR MUSLIMS

[Adam]

i cudda sworn no adverts was a feature of vip ages ago. dunno though..

im getting muslim dating sites again when i never searched dating sites OR MUSLIMS
doesn't mean that isn't what you want.

people block ads = bye habbox.

i don't see the uproar tbh, it's a tiny little advert.

[HarrySX]

doesn't mean that isn't what you want.

people block ads = bye habbox.

i don't see the uproar tbh, it's a tiny little advert.

a tiny little advert that people who this change affects don't click

heck i'll even give Jin money directly to pay the server :rolleyes:

[Judge Judy]

Well it seems despite disabling, it seems every time I log in I get redirected to that stop page and now I'm on Internet Explorer to post this. Sure I don't post much but this puts me off browsing the forum - especially if it means I have to use a different browser and/or use Tapatalk.

[scottish]

Well it seems despite disabling, it seems every time I log in I get redirected to that stop page and now I'm on Internet Explorer to post this. Sure I don't post much but this puts me off browsing the forum - especially if it means I have to use a different browser and/or use Tapatalk.

You have to go into the preferences to disable it, using the click and disable will only disable it on habbox.com as the page is hosted on hx.com and not each respective site, stupidly.

[wixard]

had you pre warned me about this, i wouldn't have had a problem
the fact that it was so randomly out of the blue

*** u habbox!!!!!111

using chippiewalls script

[James]

I don't see what the big fuss is about. It's one small box at the top of the screen. no big deal.

[Chippiewill]

Well it seems despite disabling, it seems every time I log in I get redirected to that stop page and now I'm on Internet Explorer to post this. Sure I don't post much but this puts me off browsing the forum - especially if it means I have to use a different browser and/or use Tapatalk.

I found disabling a big buggy too when switching back and forth.

[Judge Judy]

You have to go into the preferences to disable it, using the click and disable will only disable it on habbox.com as the page is hosted on hx.com and not each respective site, stupidly.
Aye I did do that but seems to have finally kicked in and stopped the redirect!


I found disabling a big buggy too when switching back and forth.
Also thanks for the userscript Edit: Spoke too soon back to the redirects

[Chippiewill]

Also thanks for the userscript Edit: Spoke too soon back to the redirects

It's occasionally buggy :/

[edible]

Habbox makes no quick buck and in actual fact server costs are in excess of $300 a month and Jin has been paying for a fair chunk of this out of his own pocket, Habbox makes a substantial loss and you're lucky it's still here as it is.

What on Earth? Why are they over $300 a month. Habbox has terrible configuration.

http://gtmetrix.com/compare/ODyoc3QM/BF80yuiA/FeltbqCV/MAWL4a79

I took the four most active Habbo Forums. Two get more posts than Habbox on a daily basis.

http://puu.sh/2zgyc/8d846e0188

For those who don't want to click link.

[HarrySX]

What on Earth? Why are they over $300 a month. Habbox has terrible configuration.

http://gtmetrix.com/compare/ODyoc3QM/BF80yuiA/FeltbqCV/MAWL4a79

I took the four most active Habbo Forums. Two get more posts than Habbox on a daily basis.

http://puu.sh/2zgyc/8d846e0188

For those who don't want to click link.

bandwidth yo

also $300 isn't that much for a server powering 3 sites (that I know of) plus a streaming server (I guess?)

[Chippiewill]

What on Earth? Why are they over $300 a month. Habbox has terrible configuration.

The server costs $300 pm, but it doesn't just host Habbox.

[Kieran]

The server costs $300 pm, but it doesn't just host Habbox.

So in other words... it is subsidising personal ventures? ;)

[Chippiewill]

So in other words... it is subsidising personal ventures? ;)

Considering Jin puts money into paying for the server.. I think not.

[edible]

So when Jin can't/doesn't want to pay... Habbox is gone for good?

[Kieran]

Considering Jin puts money into paying for the server.. I think not.

That stop site claimed that ads paid for 98% of the server and I can only imagine that donator can contribute to the other 2%. So where's this personal money going that he is putting in to it?

[xxMATTGxx]

So when Jin can't/doesn't want to pay... Habbox is gone for good?

Pretty much yes unless Habbox was sold to someone else.

[scottish]

Ads + VIP always covered costs + more didn't it, pretty sure hx would have ran on profits for years

What's exactly hosted on the server?

[edible]

Pretty much yes unless Habbox was sold to someone else.

Doesn't sound like a very effective model. It is time for Habbox to start cutting costs then in my opinion rather than looking for ineffective ways to raise more (adverts?! it's 2013!)

[Kieran]

Doesn't sound like a very effective model. It is time for Habbox to start cutting costs then in my opinion rather than looking for ineffective ways to raise more (adverts?! it's 2013!)

Couldn't agree more... looks to me like it needs to downsize if it can't be afforded anymore.

[David]

close the wiki close habboxlive close the minecraft server delete stop.hx sell vip

[Cerys]

Yeah I agree that the wiki should be closed and habbox live - that should definitely make Habbox more affordable.

[scottish]

or just merge hxl with hx, 2 years overdue
isn't wiki essentially just whats already on the hx.com site by content anyway
why is there a minecraft server hosted on it, buy your own mattg

[xxMATTGxx]

close the wiki close habboxlive close the minecraft server delete stop.hx sell vip


or just merge hxl with hx, 2 years overdue
isn't wiki essentially just whats already on the hx.com site by content anyway
why is there a minecraft server hosted on it, buy your own mattg

The Minecraft server isn't even hosted or funded by Habbox :P

[David]

close the wiki close habboxlive close the minecraft server delete stop.hx sell vip

[scottish]

The Minecraft server isn't even hosted or funded by Habbox :P

how many unique visitors does;

HxF.com get
HxWiki.com get
HxLive.com get
Hx.com get

are any other websites hosted on it?

[xxMATTGxx]

how many unique visitors does;

HxF.com get
HxWiki.com get
HxLive.com get
Hx.com get

are any other websites hosted on it?

What time period do you want in regards of those stats?

[scottish]

lets say March and a comparison from march 2012 to see the difference

[xxMATTGxx]

lets say March and a comparison from march 2012 to see the difference

Below:


March 2013 (According to Google Analytics - Not sure how accurate this is)


Habbox.com Unique Visitors: 19,042

HabboxForum.com Unique Visitors: 66,330

HabboxLive.com Unique Visitors: 2,285

HabboxWiki.com Unique Visitors: 4,071



March 2012 (According to Google Analytics - Not sure how accurate this is)


Habbox.com Unique Visitors: 11,375

HabboxForum.com Unique Visitors: 34,637

HabboxLive.com Unique Visitors: 4,550

HabboxWiki.com Unique Visitors: 1,043

[Kyle]

do it for the whole of 2011 2012 and 2013

[sex]

Below:

WOW THEY HALVED in just a year lol

[Cerys]

I'd say from the results, the wiki and habboxlive clearly are not worth as much as habbox.com and the forum.

So if we were gonna save money theyre probably best to remove.

[Adam]

archive habboxwiki. merge hx and live.

reduce b/w on forum.

[xxMATTGxx]

do it for the whole of 2011 2012 and 2013

I can't do 2011.

[Kyle]

WOW THEY HALVED in just a year lol
i thought that too but then realised 2013 is top lol

[xxMATTGxx]

WOW THEY HALVED in just a year lol

2013 shows an increase, not a decrease - If that's what you are on about?

[Kyle]

I can't do 2011.
WHY NOT NOOB

why hasn't hxl and habbox merged yet

[xxMATTGxx]

WHY NOT NOOB

why hasn't hxl and habbox merged yet

Because in 2011 we didn't use Google Analytics and the one that comes with cpanel doesn't have data for 2011 or 2012. Also it hasn't merged because V6 doesn't have the needs for the radio department.

[scottish]

is there no other method than google analytics?

can only assume that's inaccurate, double the amount lol

[sex]

2013 shows an increase, not a decrease - If that's what you are on about?

easily confused people usually put the older date first! lmao
increase cause me

[xxMATTGxx]

is there no other method than google analytics?

can only assume that's inaccurate, double the amount lol

There's the stats feature in cpanel but the data for 2011 and 2012 is no longer there. Only 2013.

[scottish]

oh? why has it been deleted :S

[xxMATTGxx]

oh? why has it been deleted :S

I wouldn't say it's been deleted on purpose. Probably something no one has kept or put back with the various server moves or whatever else has happened. Recursion; could probably give a better answer.

[scottish]

deleting it so we can't check, conspiracy.

anyway, does habbox just own one server now?

what's hosted on this?

just habboxwiki, habboxlive, habboxforum, habbox?

[xxMATTGxx]

deleting it so we can't check, conspiracy.

anyway, does habbox just own one server now?

what's hosted on this?

just habboxwiki, habboxlive, habboxforum, habbox?

It's been one server for ages. It hosts all the Habbox sites and anything else that Jin may use it for. But I don't have access so I wouldn't know what it is being used for apart from Habbox.

[sex]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JD6ejmlpa8
you should make this auto play on stop.habbox.com

but doing this is probably going to lose you so many people who check he site for the habbo news section, you may as well of added a limit on viewing threads because its gonna have the same effect, people just wont look anymore lol.

[Jordan]

oh never mind

knew this was coming anyway

[scottish]

pretty sure hxstatus isn't hosted on same server anyway

[HarrySX]

the number of sites isn't an issue... deleting the wiki etc won't do anything as they're not resource intensive websites. they just have a lot of data stored and storage is cheap

the reason hxf has a big server will be due to the main website and forum which will both munch on CPU - costs can't be decreased. if costs do need to be decreased, it means removing the forum

nope

[xxMATTGxx]

pretty sure hxstatus isn't hosted on same server anyway

I was talking about the main Habbox sites :P

[scottish]

I was talking about the main Habbox sites :P

was replying to other post saying get rid of hxstatus

[edible]

the number of sites isn't an issue... deleting the wiki etc won't do anything as they're not resource intensive websites. they just have a lot of data stored and storage is cheap

the reason hxf has a big server will be due to the main website and forum which will both munch on CPU - costs can't be decreased

my knowledge on server capacity / efficiency / costing is limited. what i'm asking is, could habbox make any alterations so they don't munch on cpu

[Kieran]

http://kuss.me/ is also on it

[HarrySX]

my knowledge on server capacity / efficiency / costing is limited. what i'm asking is, could habbox make any alterations so they don't munch on cpu

yes -- a lot. but it wouldn't be worth it and the reduction in CPU usage would be minimal. $300 really isn't a lot of money considering both HxF and hx.com are on the same server

trust me

[edible]

yes -- a lot. but it wouldn't be worth it and the reduction in CPU usage would be minimal. $300 really isn't a lot of money considering both HxF and hx.com are on the same server

trust me

yeah but if the options were close habbox or cost cutting - is habbox as efficient as it can be?

[sex]

http://kuss.me/ is also on it

http://kuss.me/?page_id=11

that harry guy is hot
DOES HE KNOW ABOUT HXF

Edited by Lee (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't post pointlessly.

[HarrySX]

yeah but if the options were close habbox or cost cutting - is habbox as efficient as it can be?

habbox probably is as efficient as can be with the resources available, Tom (the tech manager) knows what he is doing, i know that more than anybody here

if it came to it somebody would put up the cash, but if Jin is working full time $300 is hardly much... besides, somebody else would happily put up the money (myself included if need be)

[wixard]

host hx for free hazza

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http://kuss.me/ is also on it

who's connected to this
can they hook me up with george houze

[scottish]

has jin sold space to kuss.me or something?

noticed it earlier wasn't sure what it was and seen it was owned by somebody called neil, so figured it was an error

[Kieran]

has jin sold space to kuss.me or something?

noticed it earlier wasn't sure what it was and seen it was owned by somebody called neil, so figured it was an error

It's on the same server whatever it is :P

[wixard]

has jin sold space to kuss.me or something?

noticed it earlier wasn't sure what it was and seen it was owned by somebody called neil, so figured it was an error

does neils last name begin with a c? if so, he used to use habbox
and as far as i know him and jin were/are friends

[Kieran]

does neils last name begin with a c? if so, he used to use habbox
and as far as i know him and jin were/are friends

No. It's Holroyde.

[wixard]

it sounds like he's from hogwarts

[sex]

No. It's Holroyde.


it sounds like he's from hogwarts

pissing myself

[Recursion]

Removing other Habbox sites won't help, as HarrySX; said. As far as the server is concerned, although it isn't as efficient as it could be right now because I haven't had the time around my day job to do the reconfiguring it needs, despite this we still won't be able to downsize even once I have done this.

There are only 6 hosting accounts on the server (Hx, HxF, HxW, HxL, HxStop and Kuss.me) and two shoutcast servers.

We need money, Jin; is funding far too much of this site from his own pocket.

[scottish]

Removing other Habbox sites won't help, as HarrySX; said. As far as the server is concerned, although it isn't as efficient as it could be right now because I haven't had the time around my day job to do the reconfiguring it needs, despite this we still won't be able to downsize even once I have done this.

There are only 6 hosting accounts on the server (Hx, HxF, HxW, HxL, HxStop and Kuss.me) and two shoutcast servers.

We need money, Jin; is funding far too much of this site from his own pocket.

what is kuss.me and why is it hosted on hx server
why do you have two shoutcasts

[Recursion]

what is kuss.me and why is it hosted on hx server
why do you have two shoutcasts

It's a site for a university society, which is also not-for-profit and has barely any traffic.

We have one for the radio and one for testing and trials, which is irrelevant considering how little resources that one uses.

[scottish]

It's a site for a university society, which is also not-for-profit and has barely any traffic.

We have one for the radio and one for testing and trials, which is irrelevant considering how little resources that one uses.

why is it hosted on hx servers though, does it have something to do with jin or what?

[xxMATTGxx]

why is it hosted on hx servers though, does it have something to do with jin or what?

Not sure why it matters but yes most likely has some sort of connection.

[scottish]

well interested to see if he's being paid by them or if he's randomly giving out free hosting or what :P

[Adam]

well interested to see if he's being paid by them or if he's randomly giving out free hosting or what :P

if he's paying for the server he's more than entitled to do what he wants

[scottish]

if he's paying for the server he's more than entitled to do what he wants

didn't say he wasn't.

[Matthew]

I'm quite happy to have the adverts on the top of the page- but is it worth it, in terms of the potential new members we'd lose? (or not gain if you see what I mean)

Surely it would be better to try and pull more new members in and encourage them to donate as a) it will surely make more money, and b) it'll increase activity rather than possibly decrease it.

If I was a new user with adblock coming to this site for the first time and I was redirected to a site basically saying unblock the ads on habbox or bugger off, I'd bugger off :P

[David]

I'm quite happy to have the adverts on the top of the page- but is it worth it, in terms of the potential new members we'd lose? (or not gain if you see what I mean)

Surely it would be better to try and pull more new members in and encourage them to donate as a) it will surely make more money, and b) it'll increase activity rather than possibly decrease it.

If I was a new user with adblock coming to this site for the first time and I was redirected to a site basically saying unblock the ads on habbox or bugger off, I'd bugger off :P

i agree

[myke]

I can agree with a lot of the posts in here, I'm not sure this is going to be helpful for new members.. I know that for one if I was new to a forum and got stuck in this loop-ness then I'd give up trying to sign up, especially if I'm not technologically minded lol.

Perhaps just a little notice which appears once and says 'hey, by doing this bla bla you're helping towards the running costs of our fabulous fan site, thanks', a bit like a forum notice..?

[scottish]

as would majority of people coming to the site.

So it's basically going to be a case of;

Users who block ads - come on the site, be redirected and not bother coming back
User who don't block ads - come on the site, do as they usually do.


So the only result from this is going to be those who do block ads won't bother coming back limiting the newcomers and getting no more revenue from ads than previously.

Regarding the current members they're going to simply use another method to block adverts if they wished to block ads in the first place, if not then they'll do as they usually do, again resulting in no change

So overall you're losing out on potential newcomers and maybe seeing a few extra pence from miss clicks.

---------- Post added 13-04-2013 at 06:51 PM ----------


I can agree with a lot of the posts in here, I'm not sure this is going to be helpful for new members.. I know that for one if I was new to a forum and got stuck in this loop-ness then I'd give up trying to sign up, especially if I'm not technologically minded lol.

Perhaps just a little notice which appears once and says 'hey, by doing this bla bla you're helping towards the running costs of our fabulous fan site, thanks', a bit like a forum notice..?

could just detect if the ads loaded, if not create a div where there would usually be one saying please disable it.

and disable this for vips as we're already paying

[hamheyelliot]

I definitely think it's wise to start pushing Donation subscriptions a lot more, I can imagine just one £1.50 payment is more than you'll get from the average member in several months.

We could start with the Wikipedia approach:

http://i.imgur.com/Lv2wk7R.png


P.S. WHO CHANGED MY USERTITLE TO MEOW. I'M LOOKING AT YOU GARNER

[scottish]

I definitely think it's wise to start pushing Donation subscriptions a lot more, I can imagine just one £1.50 payment is more than you'll get from the average member in several months.

We could start with the Wikipedia approach:

http://i.imgur.com/Lv2wk7R.png


P.S. WHO CHANGED MY USERTITLE TO MEOW. I'M LOOKING AT YOU GARNER
David; best get started on the gfx

---------- Post added 13-04-2013 at 06:57 PM ----------

also, start selling vip again

[David]

lol thats Skynus; job

[FlyingJesus]

It'll be fixed with v7

[Kieran]

It'll be fixed with v7

Got it in one! :)

[Yawn]

that was annoying i thought u got hacked or something pmsl

so there is no choice in this. right ummmmm

[Bradley.]

so annoying god

[Calvin]

I personally think a notice that kindly asks them to disable AdBlock would be better, sort of like Reddit or Wikipedia as Elliot posted. It kept redirecting me to the stop page for a few seconds even though I have no AdBlock on Chrome.

[sexpot]

well this is annoying

[Yawn]

I personally think a notice that kindly asks them to disable AdBlock would be better, sort of like Reddit or Wikipedia as Elliot posted. It kept redirecting me to the stop page for a few seconds even though I have no AdBlock on Chrome.yes ALL of this

[samsaBEAR]

Anyone know why when I add www.habboxforum.com to my whitelist on Chrome it just looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/WsvMbDK.png

[GoldenMerc]

Anyone know why when I add www.habboxforum.com to my whitelist on Chrome it just looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/WsvMbDK.png

Because Recursion; made it so you cant avoid at all i think

[Chippiewill]

Anyone know why when I add www.habboxforum.com to my whitelist on Chrome it just looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/WsvMbDK.png
Adblock seems to be blocking the CSS file.

[GoldenMerc]

Surely xxMATTGxx; or Jin; should of done an announcement on all this, I read stop.habbox.com but that sucked

[AgnesIO]

Slightly annoying, got used to not seeing ad's.

Simple fix; start reselling VIP, remove ad's for VIP :L

[GoldenMerc]

Slightly annoying, got used to not seeing ad's.

Simple fix; start reselling VIP, remove ad's for VIP :L

or pay for ad removal, £10 for the year.
should be worth it.

[AgnesIO]

or pay for ad removal, £10 for the year.
should be worth it.

Isn't a bad idea, but hasn't a fix on avoiding it already been provided?

[MKR&*42]

This entire thing is flat out ridiculous. I've come onto internet explorer (the only browser I have without AdBlock) simply to complain about this. You are not going to bring in many more 'new' users or see those with Adblock who browse the forum unregistered come back. This is one of the worst methods you could have chosen to try and gain more money - you need to focus more on promoting Donator and boosting up community members (as discussed in an entire other feedback thread). And if you can, try and get one of the staff members to agree with all the Vip+ stuff being allowed again. I won't bother returning to the site regularly because a) I don't like Internet Explorer and b) I don't want some site forcing me to disable adblock for them, it's not the fact it's "just one small advert" but the fact that you shouldn't be forcing anyone to make the choice of 'whitelisted adblock = yes you can view and not-whitelisted adblock = no you cannot'.

[GoldenMerc]

Isn't a bad idea, but hasn't a fix on avoiding it already been provided?

Yeh, by there own site coder.
Although Recursion said in a thread he didnt want to do it
So both site coders are against it...

[Chippiewill]

Yeh, by there own site coder.
Although Recursion said in a thread he didnt want to do it
So both site coders are against it...

Everyone except Jin is against it.

[Adam]

Considering Habbo just sent you an e-mail praising fansites surely you will be able to sell VIP like you used to?

[Mr-Trainor]

I have to agree that this is a ridiculous idea, particularly as any news are going to just be redirected to this (provided they have ad blocker on) and then what.. do you really think they'll read that and then think 'yeah oh, I'll turn my ad block off for this website I've never visited before' because if it was me I'd just leave and never come back :P. I agree that a message where the ad would be, just a message that kindly asks the user - rather than forcing the user - to turn ad block off would be much better and I'm sure users would prefer that too.

[scottish]

I said to mattg a while ago that surely VIP will be allowed now but the only reply i ever seen from him is something like 'it wont help'

but same time it's not going to hurt.... and don't see how it wouldn't help, people would be more willing to pay for VIP than donator for the extra features so every £1 is so many hundred clicks on ads probably.


Set VIP to something like £1.50, £1.75 or £2

Donator to £1 or whatever it is now

problem solved, those just wanting to donate can, those who want features can get vip and you make more money with no effort

[Chippiewill]

I think the issue is that Habbox VIP is a very good competition etc. reward, it would be a shame to lose it.

[scottish]

I think the issue is that Habbox VIP is a very good competition etc. reward, it would be a shame to lose it.

set up VIP+ as rewards and keep it for rewards.

So extra reason to participate and win in competitions if it's only available through it and not just spending a few quid.

[Adam]

VIP = double price of donator.

Done. Sorted.

You can still offer VIP to competition winners.

[xxMATTGxx]

set up VIP+ as rewards and keep it for rewards.

So extra reason to participate and win in competitions if it's only available through it and not just spending a few quid.

VIP+ can't be done. Well, the main feature anyway.

[AgnesIO]

I disagree when people say VIP wouldn't make a different.

I, for example, have bought VIP in the past - but have never bought donor. And I doubt I'm the only one.

---------- Post added 13-04-2013 at 10:08 PM ----------


VIP+ can't be done. Well, the main feature anyway.

Is there DEFINITELY no way to work it?

[David]

xxMATTGxx; werent you bringing vip+ back anwyay?

edit; oh just read it again.

[scottish]

VIP+ can't be done. Well, the main feature anyway.

what's the main feature, but why not?

[xxMATTGxx]

I disagree when people say VIP wouldn't make a different.

I, for example, have bought VIP in the past - but have never bought donor. And I doubt I'm the only one.

---------- Post added 13-04-2013 at 10:08 PM ----------



Is there DEFINITELY no way to work it?

From what I can gather no.


xxMATTGxx; werent you bringing vip+ back anwyay?

Only if it was possible to bring back the main feature.

---------- Post added 13-04-2013 at 10:11 PM ----------


what's the main feature, but why not?

The main feature of VIP+ was so that they could switch colours regardless and do it themselves. Anything else was pretty much the same as normal VIP. Unless you can think of features that will make people buy it? Apart from bigger avatars as that doesn't work on the skins we have.

[scottish]

so it's worked out xxMATTGxx; Jin;

stop pissing off your users and putting off newcomers
start selling vip at 1.5/2x the price of donation
keep donation at its current price
start giving vip+ out as a competition prize etc
profit

---------- Post added 13-04-2013 at 10:11 PM ----------


From what I can gather no.



Only if it was possible to bring back the main feature.

---------- Post added 13-04-2013 at 10:11 PM ----------



The main feature of VIP+ was so that they could switch colours regardless and do it themselves. Anything else was pretty much the same as normal VIP.

I'm sure there was other features, what made it possible in the past, if it comes to it leave it as a manual thing and they have to post in a thread to allow them to do it?

[Adam]

VIP
VIP+

Why can't VIP(+) be given as competition prize?

[Lee]

VIP+ can't be done. Well, the main feature anyway.

If it was done on vbulletin 3 in like 2006 why cant you do it now... And better...

[xxMATTGxx]

so it's worked out xxMATTGxx; Jin;

stop pissing off your users and putting off newcomers
start selling vip at 1.5/2x the price of donation
keep donation at its current price
start giving vip+ out as a competition prize etc
profit

---------- Post added 13-04-2013 at 10:11 PM ----------



I'm sure there was other features, what made it possible in the past, if it comes to it leave it as a manual thing and they have to post in a thread to allow them to do it?

1. It's out of my hands. Tom can back me up on that as we have both expressed our concerns on the matter.

2. Sure but the redirection would still be in place.

[scottish]

vip+ was 2008 but yeah. :P

[xxMATTGxx]

If it was done on vbulletin 3 in like 2006 why cant you do it now... And better...

Because it was vBulletin 3. Not all the plugins were moved over to 4. Like I said, if anyone can find me a way - We'll do it.

[David]

xxMATTGxx; isn't it just a public (joinable) usergroup? there'd have to be a usergroup for every colour which they'd need to be a part of, then they can change which shows as primary in UCP. not sure how it would work with subscriptions and expiry dates though

[xxMATTGxx]

xxMATTGxx; isn't it just a public (joinable) usergroup? there'd have to be a usergroup for every colour which they'd need to be a part of, then they can change which shows as primary in UCP

Anyone is then able to join that group. Unless it was done by requests and manually done which some what defeats the purpose as you can technically do that already with current VIP if you have multiple subscriptions.

[scottish]

1. It's out of my hands. Tom can back me up on that as we have both expressed our concerns on the matter.

2. Sure but the redirection would still be in place.

why, do you not see the fact you're going to drop activity and lose newcomers based on this?

Simple:

Donator:
- Stay same as it currently is
VIP:
- current benefits
- ability to disable adverts
- for sale at a price of 1.5x/2x donator price
VIP+:
- current VIP benefits
- ability to disable adverts
- ability to post in a VIP+ thread requesting a colour change
- larger display picture, avatar and larger inbox space
- a @habboxforum.com email account
- for sale at 2x the vip price (if required), given to competition winners

[AgnesIO]

@xxMATTGxx (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=1020); isn't it just a public (joinable) usergroup? there'd have to be a usergroup for every colour which they'd need to be a part of, then they can change which shows as primary in UCP. not sure how it would work with subscriptions and expiry dates though

This.

I believe they did it in some other way (or so Matt said :))

[mrwoooooooo]

just make a donator+ or summet 50p more with no ads

either that or jin may as well just sell the site

[xxMATTGxx]

why, do you not see the fact you're going to drop activity and lose newcomers based on this?

Simple:

Donator:
- Stay same as it currently is
VIP:
- current benefits
- ability to disable adverts
- for sale at a price of 1.5x/2x donator price
VIP+:
- current VIP benefits
- ability to disable adverts
- ability to post in a VIP+ thread requesting a colour change
- larger display picture, avatar and larger inbox space
- a @habboxforum.com email account
- for sale at 2x the vip price (if required), given to competition winners

You don't understand.

Owners > General Management - I have no say in regards of getting this removed. Myself and Tom have expressed our concerns about this and that the fact it will ruin any new comers coming to the site. But it still has to be enabled.

[David]

Anyone is then able to join that group. Unless it was done by requests and manually done which some what defeats the purpose as you can technically do that already with current VIP if you have multiple subscriptions.

yeah basically could just ignore any requests made on the groups, or have one of the coders to look at a plugin to remove it from the request page

[scottish]

do you know the addon used for vb3.

[xxMATTGxx]

Okay scrap that. VIP+ can be done, totally missed something out.

[scottish]

noob, get it done then disable that ******* stop.habbox.com redirect and sell vip.

[xxMATTGxx]

noob, get it done then disable that ******* stop.habbox.com redirect and sell vip.

Can only disable it if the owners agree sadly.

[AgnesIO]

You don't understand.

Owners > General Management - I have no say in regards of getting this removed. Myself and Tom have expressed our concerns about this and that the fact it will ruin any new comers coming to the site. But it still has to be enabled.

Correct, but unfortunately you are effectively the spokesman for the owners.

Personally I think Jin is an imbecile for this - if I was knew to a website and it told me I had to change my browser settings to use it, I would just go elsewhere. Obviously if a major website did I I might think otherwise (ie. first time on CNN or something). But for a habbo fansite? No thanks.


Okay scrap that. VIP+ can be done, totally missed something out.

Awkward haha

[scottish]

Can only disable it if the owners agree sadly.

just disable it and don't say anything, if he comes on and notices its changed call it a hypocrite for using adblock on hxf (unless he looked at panel then its acceptable) and he can re-enable it lose visitors etc but you'd at least try to save hxf

[sex]

IVE ALLOWED ADVERTS ON HABBOXFORUM BUT PLEASE REMOVE THAT STUPID THING FOR THE SAKE OF NEW MEMBERS....
you've just put another nail in the coffin Jin; w.e ur forum name is!

[David]

call sierk; maybe he can teach Jin; how not to lose members

[AgnesIO]

Why don't you just replace the ad's for these users with privately paid for ad's?

Then users cannot remove them through adblocks?

[scottish]

Why don't you just replace the ad's for these users with privately paid for ad's?

Then users cannot remove them through adblocks?

technically we can just means we have to manually do it through filter or right clicking the frame and blocking the frame.

[Chippiewill]

Why don't you just replace the ad's for these users with privately paid for ad's?

Then users cannot remove them through adblocks?

They can by just right clicking and blocking them.

[Rozi]

I actually made an effort to remove adblock on hxf a few months back, but the adverts were so ridiculous - mostly for social networks based on middle aged men ******* to half naked, hyper sexualised, avatars - that I turned adblock back on.

Essentially I agree that people should be encouraged to pay for habbox, but I really REALLY don't think this is the way to do it.

Pretty much every regular user buys, or has bought frequently in the past, donator or VIP. Instead of discouraging new users by using this block, encourage new users to buy donator, either through more publicity or added BENEFITS.

As far as I understand it, habbo is making far more effort at the moment at building relationships with fansites than they have for the past few years. Make an effort to re-open talks r.e. VIP - and this is something that Jin has to actively take part in.

[Matthew]

I think one of the main issues with Habbox recently (i.e over the past few years) has probably been a decline in activity. Being a mod throughout a lot of this period makes it so obvious (i.e the amount of stuff we have to deal with has changed dramatically etc).

What I can't understand therefore is why Jin would want something which will effectively just make the decline in activity worse? What good will the extra small amount of money from these ads make when, in the long run, we're losing potential members who could/would at some point/consistently buy donator or VIP which would contribute a lot more money than the ads anyway? It baffles me :(

As I said before, if I was a hx noob and had never visited the site before and was presented with 2 options; either disable my adblock to view the site or don't view the site at all- I would just go with not view the site. Why would I bother? As a guy who has perhaps never visited the site before, why would I know if it was worth disabling the adblock? I'd probably think it would be more trouble than it is worth.

We have to try to gain new members and promote the buying of donator, not try to scare new members away!

[scottish]

I actually made an effort to remove adblock on hxf a few months back, but the adverts were so ridiculous - mostly for social networks based on middle aged men ******* to half naked, hyper sexualised, avatars - that I turned adblock back on.


Now we know what you've been searching for on google :P

[AgnesIO]

technically we can just means we have to manually do it through filter or right clicking the frame and blocking the frame.


They can by just right clicking and blocking them.

Ah yeah - would the average user know to do that? (Knew about the method myself, albeit through random testing earlier).

Just wondering, as I doubt many users of Adblock Plus really use it "to its maximum potential"

[scottish]

doubt it, most people install it and leave it with the standard filters and do nothing

[Rozi]

Now we know what you've been searching for on google :P

haha knew someone would pick up on this
it's probably from habbo and neopets etc

[dbgtz]

lets see the donator figures that you missed from the graph
http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?chtt=Money+Received+from+Forum+Donations&chts=000000,13&chs=400x200&chf=bg,s,ffffff&cht=p&chd=t:18.91,9.63,1.92,4.36,3.59,14.26,17.21,13.36, 6.03,8.09,2.57&chl=January|February|March|April|May|June|July|Aug ust|September|October|November&chco=0000ff,ff0000,00ff00,ffffff,00ffff,ffcc00,00c c00,cc0000,ff66cc,993300,ffff66

[Recursion]

lets see the donator figures that you missed from the graph
http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?chtt=Money+Received+from+Forum+Donations&chts=000000,13&chs=400x200&chf=bg,s,ffffff&cht=p&chd=t:18.91,9.63,1.92,4.36,3.59,14.26,17.21,13.36, 6.03,8.09,2.57&chl=January|February|March|April|May|June|July|Aug ust|September|October|November&chco=0000ff,ff0000,00ff00,ffffff,00ffff,ffcc00,00c c00,cc0000,ff66cc,993300,ffff66

We discounted December because that's donated to charity. As it stands the minimum for one month is ~£5, the maximum ~£87... just to put into perspective, server costs alone (without yearly licensing/domain fees) comes in at ~$350 or £190ish.

The average monthly income is £9.08ish.

[LiquidLuck.]

I actually don't get one thing. You earn money from people clicking the ads, but actually how many people actually click them?

[Chippiewill]

We discounted December because that's donated to charity. As it stands the minimum for one month is ~£5, the maximum ~£87... just to put into perspective, server costs alone (without yearly licensing/domain fees) comes in at ~$350 or £190ish.

The average monthly income is £9.08ish.

It's not really relevant to compare server costs to donations since the server isn't just for Habbox.

[dbgtz]

We discounted December because that's donated to charity. As it stands the minimum for one month is ~£5, the maximum ~£87... just to put into perspective, server costs alone (without yearly licensing/domain fees) comes in at ~$350 or £190ish.

The average monthly income is £9.08ish.

Well either you're wrong or donator provides more than 2% a month on average (which would be $6.80 or around £4.50). These numbers seem really fudged to me.

[Chippiewill]

Well either you're wrong or donator provides more than 2% a month on average (which would be $6.80 or around £4.50). These numbers seem really fudged to me.

They're going to be fudged anyway as they've come from the forum database and we all know how reliable that is from Christmas.

[AgnesIO]

The issue is for Habbox, people will buy a years worth of VIP at Christmas, so never need donator.

This is why VIP is needed all year round, because donor/donator is simply not worthwhile when you can just buy a years VIP at Christmas.

[scottish]

Yeah, people are only going to buy VIP if it's available, which limits it to christmas time and at the same time its for charity.

So habbox is gaining nothing from VIP which most people will want, and in fact lose because they're only selling it for one month

[xxMATTGxx]

VIP still won't make anything compared to what adverts can. (says Jin)

[AgnesIO]

VIP still won't make anything compared to what adverts can. (says Jin)

Honestly I think Jin is living in a dream world.

The people who use adblock plus are probably the least likely to click ads as they clearly hate.. ads!

[scottish]

VIP still won't make anything compared to what adverts can. (says Jin)

provide numbers (not meaningless graphs) of the amount earned each month from donator vs ad revenue

obviously donator will be low because it's crap and people want VIP but still like to see.

[Aiden]

Honestly I think Jin is living in a dream world.

The people who use adblock plus are probably the least likely to click ads as they clearly hate.. ads!

Don't hits count towards a tiny part of it too? I'm pretty sure they do, not 100% sure.

[scottish]

Doubt it, it'll be pay per click and they'll get like $0.05 per click or something

[Aiden]

scottish; I shouldnt post this but if you look at this, I had zero clicks and only hits, they got 2p :)

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/1738/b0ede204ae864a0a8b73379.png

[sex]

scottish; I shouldnt post this but if you look at this, I had zero clicks and only hits, they got 2p :)

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/1738/b0ede204ae864a0a8b73379.png

those adverts where probably for impressions w.e
i learning this atm!!!! BUT NOT SURE LOL

[scottish]

oh so it'll be $0.04 per thousand views

---------- Post added 14-04-2013 at 01:00 AM ----------
Recursion; post the ad revenue per month over past year?

[Aiden]

oh so it'll be $0.04 per thousand views

looks like it (y)


those adverts where probably for impressions w.e
i learning this atm!!!! BUT NOT SURE LOL

I think so haha :)

[sex]

oh so it'll be $0.04 per thousand views

---------- Post added 14-04-2013 at 01:00 AM ----------
Recursion; post the ad revenue per month over past year?

yeah but considering you probably look at well over 100 pages per day on the forum it adds up with guests / visitors


CAN YOU JUST ADD BANNER AND REMOVE THE STOP THING ALREADY

[peteyt]

I don't mind viewing adverts as I know what its like self funding things and trying to make actual profit. However I've added the multiple habbox urls into add block + filter, even removed add block + and it still did the redirect - I tried clearing my cache and it still re-directed. I'm having to use Internet Explorer now instead of chrome which makes me believe the idea isn't working. Oh and does habbo radio have audio type adverts?

[Mr-Trainor]

So the redirect is staying? I really can't see why because it seems there's a lot more to lose than you'll gain from keeping it and I strongly suggest you reconsider.

And what Marketing; said is true, I do the same thing with stocking up on VIP in December.

But if you want more people to buy donator:
- have more limited edition donator with forum awards
I've only even bought one month of ordinary donator, and the rest have just been the limited edition donator. People are definitely more likely to buy donator if there's a limited edition one available with a forum award to go with it.

Also, with charity VIP the counter showing how much had been donated was more of a reason for people to buy it - just to get it up to the target - so many some kind of permanent counter like this that resets every month would be good - not just to potentially encourage people to donate, but just because it'd be interesting too :P. But if you do do that, don't put it in a sidebar like the charity one because that's really annoying on mobile devices.

[Shorty]

Forcing users to disable their adblock is shocking, refuse to use Habbox. Sure, a friendly reminder, but a full on block from Habbox? *REMOVED* you too.

Edited by Lee (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not create posts that avoid the filter.

[xxMATTGxx]

oh so it'll be $0.04 per thousand views

---------- Post added 14-04-2013 at 01:00 AM ----------
Recursion; post the ad revenue per month over past year?

I don't think he has access to that.


So the redirect is staying? I really can't see why because it seems there's a lot more to lose than you'll gain from keeping it and I strongly suggest you reconsider.

And what Marketing; said is true, I do the same thing with stocking up on VIP in December.

But if you want more people to buy donator:
- have more limited edition donator with forum awards
I've only even bought one month of ordinary donator, and the rest have just been the limited edition donator. People are definitely more likely to buy donator if there's a limited edition one available with a forum award to go with it.

Also, with charity VIP the counter showing how much had been donated was more of a reason for people to buy it - just to get it up to the target - so many some kind of permanent counter like this that resets every month would be good - not just to potentially encourage people to donate, but just because it'd be interesting too :P. But if you do do that, don't put it in a sidebar like the charity one because that's really annoying on mobile devices.

Owners want the redirect to stay as it is.

[Brice]

bi nt comin bk dis rel anoyin

UR LOSIN UR BST MEMBA YET

[Reloaded]

A first sign that the owner no longer cares about the site and is looking for ways to say its failed and close it.

[sexpot]

bi nt comin bk dis rel anoyin

UR LOSIN UR BST MEMBA YET

Habbox just lost its best member. Might as well close now.

[beth]

well... i'd like to say i'm surprised but... jin (despite financial contributions, which obviously are of utmost importance) hasn't given a **** for the past couple of years. consistently leaves matt to take the stick on decisions only jin can make and now he is nailing the coffin shut.

[Recursion]

oh so it'll be $0.04 per thousand views

---------- Post added 14-04-2013 at 01:00 AM ----------
@Recursion (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=13064); post the ad revenue per month over past year?

I don't have AdSense access.

[Adam]

Can we form a members group to take control of the forum?

[scottish]

well if the general management team say no as well as the site coders then he doesn't have a choice really

short of firing you all for disabling it, but then he'd actually have to interact with users

[GoldenMerc]

If Habbox doesn't get rid of this silly thing, then tara habbox.

[Mr-Trainor]

Owners want the redirect to stay as it is.
What do you think about it?

[Adam]

Why did my post get overlooked?

Form a members group and take control of the forum.

[mrwoooooooo]

Why did my post get overlooked?

Form a members group and take control of the forum.
its a forum, not a football club. there would be even more arguing than there is atm

[xxMATTGxx]

What do you think about it?

I feel it's going to ruin the activity of Habbox even further and will ruin the chance to grab any new members by such notices/practises.

[Recursion]

I feel it's going to ruin the activity of Habbox even further and will ruin the chance to grab any new members by such notices/practises.

Agreed.

I might be the one that implemented the code, but I definitely don't support Jin's decision.

[Adam]

its a forum, not a football club. there would be even more arguing than there is atm

something needs to change.

[scottish]

Agreed.

I might be the one that implemented the code, but I definitely don't support Jin's decision.


I feel it's going to ruin the activity of Habbox even further and will ruin the chance to grab any new members by such notices/practises.

if you disagree with it that much, remove it.

[Martin]

For younger members it could be quite confusing and misleading. We have to remember that some younger members do use this forum and the majority of guests etc will be habbo players of the younger age, checking the site out after hearing about it. They may already have ad-block software installed on their computers by their PARENTS say so or doing, and I'm not really sure a redirect like this is something suited to a Habbo fansite, so not too sure I can agree with it really. I don't think its the right route to go down to raise funds, and will just piss some people off. Its the new members im worried about and how it looks. A good number of visitors will now longer be able to see the site and that worries me.

[xxMATTGxx]

Tom and I are going on strike as the community has questions that need to be answered from the owners of Habbox.

[Recursion]

Tom and I are going on strike as the community has questions that need to be answered from the owners of Habbox.
what ghana said.

also a bit cba

[sex]

is jin going to login in the next few months to have a look at this thread and realize what a stupid decision he made. does he think habbox is still operating the way it has been in 2007 and flourishing lol

[Chippiewill]

Tom and I are going on strike as the community has questions that need to be answered from the owners of Habbox.


what ghana said.

also a bit cba

What are we meant to do for the next three months?

[sex]

Tom and I are going on strike as the community has questions that need to be answered from the owners of Habbox.


what ghana said.

also a bit cba

jin is your Margret thatcher

[Martin]

Tom and I are going on strike as the community has questions that need to be answered from the owners of Habbox.

You look good in blue LOL


omg I remember going on strike once *cringes*


but yeah, I think there are a lot of flaws with this plan, and it will cause more harm than good in the long run.

[scottish]

jin won't log in until the release of v7

[xxMATTGxx]

jin won't log in until the release of v7

I don't think Jin has actually seen the V7 design.

[scottish]

how surprising :P

and lol, just been redirected twice to stop.hx when adblock has been disabled since yesterday

if you quickly go between two pages does it redirect you as it thinks the adverts not loaded or something?

[Martin]

I don't think Jin has actually seen the V7 design.

will be awkward if he hates it when he sees it and makes you redo it LOL

[Chippiewill]

how surprising :P

and lol, just been redirected twice to stop.hx when adblock has been disabled since yesterday

if you quickly go between two pages does it redirect you as it thinks the adverts not loaded or something?
The HabboxForum page gets loaded from your browsers cache, therefore it's super fast and the DOM becomes ready before the ads finish loading. It's a broken detection method and frankly ******ed.

[Martin]

how surprising :P

and lol, just been redirected twice to stop.hx when adblock has been disabled since yesterday

if you quickly go between two pages does it redirect you as it thinks the adverts not loaded or something?

It seems very buggy, Its happened to me a couple of times too, might have to switch to internet explorer at this rate LOL

It took me ages to work out how to disable it, even following the instructions. :(

[Chippiewill]

will be awkward if he hates it when he sees it and makes you redo it LOL
Actually, compared to the rest of V7 the design was fairly swiftly done.

[God]

@xxMATTGxx (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=1020); Send this to Jin, as it is someone I directed to the HabboxForums that got the Stop.Habbox and couldn't use its wonderful resources. Even after trying to help him remove his adblock, we where unsuccessful and he was very confused over the whole matter.

http://prntscr.com/10iutz

[Martin]

@xxMATTGxx (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=1020); Send this to Jin, as it is someone I directed to the HabboxForums that couldn't use its wonderful resources and after trying to help him remove his adblock, we where unsuccessful.

http://prntscr.com/10iutz


Its going to stop a lot of potential new members visiting the site which is a shame really. A lot of the time its their parents that set up adblock on the family computer, we arent all old people here and there are a few younger members too who will lose out because of this

[scottish]

well thought through plan Jin;

[Mr-Trainor]

@xxMATTGxx (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=1020); Send this to Jin, as it is someone I directed to the HabboxForums that got the Stop.Habbox and couldn't use its wonderful resources. Even after trying to help him remove his adblock, we where unsuccessful and he was very confused over the whole matter.

http://prntscr.com/10iutz
Yep. Like I said, it's a ridiculous idea and I can't believe it was even implemented in the first place.

[sex]

syrupmonkey has joined the strike and refused to post till this change is reversed!

o/t...if users are already saying it in game you know you got a problem

[Martin]

syrupmonkey has joined the strike and refused to post till this change is reversed!

o/t...if users are already saying it in game you know you got a problem


omg no!! I need myke to do my perms request before I go to Ireland tonight :'( HOW INCONVINIENT

[God]

syrupmonkey has joined the strike and refused to post till this change is reversed!

o/t...if users are already saying it in game you know you got a problem


What is needed to do this strike?

[Adam]

What is needed to do this strike?

talk about a bandwagon.

[Aiden]

Can't you simply disable it? Just slyly turn it back on when Jin's online ;) He's gonna have about 50 mentions.

[scottish]

that's what i tried saying 50 times but mattg won't listen

i doubt jin even checks so he wouldn't notice

[xxMATTGxx]

Jin will be online later.

[GoldenMerc]

Oh Garners removed his admin... **** is going down.

[hamheyelliot]

I just enabled AdBlock on Chrome for the first time in god knows how long to actually experience the redirect, and I think I just felt the rage everyone else seems to have felt for the first time.

Take the phrase 'our beautiful website' for example, which as far as I can see refers to the owners of Habbox. They may very well own the website and be responsible for keeping it available, but from what I can see - almost every bit of content that currently exists on all Habbox sites today has been created by a member of the community or a volunteer.

God knows how much time people have lovingly sank into Habbox for free, only to see themselves blocked off from their own content on account of their free choice to disable advertising.

I've never seen anything like it, mainly because a responsible website owner would look at alternative means to raise money and even reduce costs - instead of throttle people's access to the information they helped to put here in the first place.

If you want people to ditch AdBlock, you need to do it with a bit of grace. I don't think Wikipedia would turn around and stop people from accessing content that millions of people put there in the first place, and I think Habbox is in a similar boat - on a smaller scale.

[Adam]

Just have an owner that frequents the forum - that's been missing for the past 7 years.

Simple concept.

[Reloaded]

Would just like to point out how nice it is to see GM and admin supporting the public opinion for once rather than it seeming that they are going against them. *Thumps Up*:D

[Recursion]

Can't you simply disable it? Just slyly turn it back on when Jin's online ;) He's gonna have about 50 mentions.

/progs/ doesn't exist on any machine capable of running iTunes xoxoxo

[xxMATTGxx]

Update:

I've been told that I can do whatever. We'll be removing the redirect and doing other changes that will encourage users to disable adblock on the Habbox sites without being redirected to another page. (Which is being worked on at this moment in time)

Although, I have been warned that they don't think they can maintain the services for much longer at this rate. Which may face dramtic downsizing such as: pruning of forums, threads and users.

[GoldenMerc]

Sounds like Jin wanted to be co owner to make money, not to serve the forum well considering he used to use it often for 5 years atleast...
Habbox isn't a business and shouldn't be ran like a business, It allows members volunteer to give a donation, in terms of money, time, skill, coding.
I understand he may be paying a bit out of his pocket but there are numerous other ways to solve this... E.g maybe adding another ad?

[scottish]

Update:

I've been told that I can do whatever. We'll be removing the redirect and doing other changes that will encourage users to disable adblock on the Habbox sites without being redirected to another page. (Which is being worked on at this moment in time)

Although, I have been warned that they don't think they can maintain the services for much longer at this rate. Which may face dramtic downsizing such as: pruning of forums, threads and users.

just delete members who haven't logged in for years and have low posts/no posts as well as all the thousands of spam bots that seem to just be banned and not deleted

[sex]

Update:

I've been told that I can do whatever. We'll be removing the redirect and doing other changes that will encourage users to disable adblock on the Habbox sites without being redirected to another page.

Although, I have been warned that they don't think they can maintain the services for much longer at this rate. Which may face dramtic downsizing such as: pruning of forums, threads and users.

im sure if you ask for donations people would offer up, without having to prune older threads etc
people have been on this forum long enough to care for it that if you asked for a donation of like 5 pound or whatever you would get it lol

I KNOW I HAPPILY WOULD

[scottish]

are you going to sell vip/implement a vip+?

[Aiden]

/progs/ doesn't exist on any machine capable of running iTunes xoxoxo

I click teh song and play it, I just call the folder iTunes ;) http://prntscr.com/10kow4

ANYWAY:

Its good the redirect si being removed!

[sex]

OR ALTERNATIVELY tell jin to sell his furni on the black market he has at least 500 pounds worth probably more

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are you going to sell vip/implement a vip+?

do you not get it that habbo forbids fansites selling premium features still lol

[scottish]

or give it to staff who will actually use it, get hx more active, get more money from adverts, profit

[GoldenMerc]

OR ALTERNATIVELY tell jin to sell his furni on the black market he has at least 500 pounds worth probably more

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do you not get it that habbo forbids fansites selling premium features still lol
wonder where he got it from...

[xxMATTGxx]

OR ALTERNATIVELY tell jin to sell his furni on the black market he has at least 500 pounds worth probably more

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do you not get it that habbo forbids fansites selling premium features still lol

Can you show me the rules where it still mentions that?

[Martin]

If Jin read this thread he might see some of the other ideas offered and the positive vibe that is coming from members who want this place to succeed and continue. I'm glad its being removed as it was a silly decision and one that would just ruin all the hard work that is currently being put in to improving things and getting new members and is a bit of a kick in the teeth.

There are far more ways of gaining extra revenue if its needed than force redirects etc, and I think those should have been discussed first before something like this introduced. Hopefully now the owners can work with the community to develop other ways of doing this without causing more trouble for users/the site.

[scottish]

do they though, the fansite rules and everything got changed ages ago when they changed staff and i doubt they even care now as they're trying to get into fansites good books

[Adam]

Get rid of donator.

Go back to VIP and VIP+ (with removed ads) to ease confusion of new members.

[scottish]

what are you going to do garna

[Bails]

im sure if you ask for donations people would offer up, without having to prune older threads etc
people have been on this forum long enough to care for it that if you asked for a donation of like 5 pound or whatever you would get it lol

I KNOW I HAPPILY WOULD

Just thought I'd jump in saying I'd donate £5 to this site anytime, I think that from all the free content £5 certainly isn't asking for a lot.

[GoldenMerc]

If Jin read this thread he might see some of the other ideas offered and the positive vibe that is coming from members who want this place to succeed and continue. I'm glad its being removed as it was a silly decision and one that would just ruin all the hard work that is currently being put in to improving things and getting new members and is a bit of a kick in the teeth.

There are far more ways of gaining extra revenue if its needed than force redirects etc, and I think those should have been discussed first before something like this introduced. Hopefully now the owners can work with the community to develop other ways of doing this without causing more trouble for users/the site.
your thinking like jin gives a crap about habbox, he couldn't care less. All hes in it for is the ££££££

[sex]

Can you show me the rules where it still mentions that?

well it just assumed so since thats what everyone was still saying up till a few months ago lol

[xxMATTGxx]

do they though, the fansite rules and everything got changed ages ago when they changed staff and i doubt they even care now as they're trying to get into fansites good books

I do not believe it is mentioned the policy that was given to fansites. Although I would say Habbox is in the bad books with the legal department at Sulake at the moment. But that shouldn't effect the sale of VIP I don't believe.


well it just assumed so since thats what everyone was still saying up till a few months ago lol

I can't find it anywhere mentioned these days - Which is why I asked :P

[scottish]

Get rid of donator.

Go back to VIP and VIP+ (with removed ads) to ease confusion of new members.

donator should stick, vip should be added back at double price of donator, vip+ added at triple price of donator/double vip or not for sale and only given by competitions.

[David]

what are you planning to do here

http://icap.me/i/IfR6o9hRCX.png

[scottish]

I do not believe it is mentioned the policy that was given to fansites. Although I would say Habbox is in the bad books with the legal department at Sulake at the moment. But that shouldn't effect the sale of VIP I don't believe.



I can't find it anywhere mentioned these days - Which is why I asked :P

why? (bad books part)

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what are you planning to do here

http://icap.me/i/IfR6o9hRCX.png

guessing its going to be script to detect adverts, if so display banner asking to remove, if not then display ads

[Aiden]

http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/428/2a86fde06b8043bb8518c5f.png

very sly

[Martin]

your thinking like jin gives a crap about habbox, he couldn't care less. All hes in it for is the ££££££

But I thought Jin didnt make any money from Habbox and that all the revenue went back into the server costs etc. If he didnt give a crap then surely he would have just pulled the plug years ago? :P


I do not believe it is mentioned the policy that was given to fansites. Although I would say Habbox is in the bad books with the legal department at Sulake at the moment. But that shouldn't effect the sale of VIP I don't believe.



I can't find it anywhere mentioned these days - Which is why I asked :P

What on earth has caused that to happen? :O thats really not good news

[xxMATTGxx]

why? (bad books part)

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guessing its going to be script to detect adverts, if so display banner asking to remove, if not then display ads

Sulake sent a DMCA to Habbox within the past couple of weeks.

[GoldenMerc]

But I thought Jin didnt make any money from Habbox and that all the revenue went back into the server costs etc. If he didnt give a crap then surely he would have just pulled the plug years ago? :P



What on earth has caused that to happen? :O thats really not good news

It's not his choice to pull or not, Im guessing its sierk's

[edible]

Adblock is back on :)

[sex]

Get rid of donator.

Go back to VIP and VIP+ (with removed ads) to ease confusion of new members.

this lol....also maybe cut back on the amount of things you get vip for to encourage people to buy it. atm you can get it so easily without paying for it

this is from hffm so i assume you can offer services for donations
VIP
If you purchase VIP, you will receive:
- Change your username to any colour you want (Impersonating staff is not permitted)
- VIP only forum with more flexibility regarding forum rules
- Invisible mode (Can also see other invisible users)
- Can request a username or user title change (custom fonts, colours and marquee's are allowed)
- Can open/close own threads
- An avatar size limit of 200x365
- Inbox space of 2000 personal messages
- Exclusive arcade access
..and more!

[Adam]

donator should stick, vip should be added back at double price of donator, vip+ added at triple price of donator/double vip or not for sale and only given by competitions.
confusing for new members.

"what's difference between donator and vip?".

It was VIP before donator so go back.

[scottish]

Sulake sent a DMCA to Habbox within the past couple of weeks.

for what? something on hx wiki or hx.com or what

[Martin]

It's not his choice to pull or not, Im guessing its sierk's

im sure they would discuss it together since they both put money into it etc im presuming


but from what I heard, Jin isnt MAKING money from Habbox, if anything he's putting money into it to keep it going.

[scottish]

confusing for new members.

"what's difference between donator and vip?".

It was VIP before donator so go back.

not really as the top of the donation page would clearly describe the benefits of each

[GoldenMerc]

im sure they would discuss it together since they both put money into it etc im presuming


but from what I heard, Jin isnt MAKING money from Habbox, if anything he's putting money into it to keep it going.

I personally doubt this, Id say hes just making less than he was originally.

[xxMATTGxx]

for what? something on hx wiki or hx.com or what

On the lines of:
"The website in question is “emulation” servers which use code and images
for our product Habbo Hotel, www.habbo.com, created and copyrighted by Sulake
Corporation."

But it's cool, we are still here in regards of that for now :P