****** threads

[Mr-Trainor]

Could you please prove to me that every song someone listened to in PWYLT was actually listened to by that person. Until then move it to spam <3
People are less likely to make that up. Yet again, it's just another case where you need to use some common sense.

[Aiden]

People are trying to argue that a thread about counting coco pops in your bowl, where people are just making it up, has a point.

its mean to call someone a liar geeeeez

[Mr-Trainor]

It doesn't have to be every person, even if one song was listened to by somebody else then that thread had a purpose.

If at least one of you fools counted your coco pops then get that thread moved back to discuss anything, but I would be surprised if even you would stoop that low and count your coco pops lol...
It still shouldn't though, you gain nothing from knowing how many coco pops are in a bowl. However, if these people are really interested in that then I'm sure they can find a YouTube video :P.

I've actually found the What are you listening to thread useful, if I see a song someone posts and I know the artist, I might go a look up that song to see if I like it. I did do that once :P.

[Grig]

Yeh some of these threads are pointless and I hate it when people post threads that they don't genuinely mean. I normally stick to the news section, so that's not really a problem, but have just seen what's the last book that you read thread. That annoyed me a bit because I'm NOT interested in that, I'm interested in if they read it what they think of it. A forum should be a place for discussion, which means interaction. But then again I'm not really that fussed as it doesn't affect the section I normally post in.

Although this forum has other problems, such as the completely broken reputation system.

[Chippiewill]

You didn't really win with the "Post Your" threads so why do you think it's going to be any different now?

Because I already did. Whether you admit it or not doesn't really affect me, but since quality was just enforced the point has already been conceded. What happens now is what's important, if you admit it then you get to enforce the rules as have been dictated in the FAQ and the forum returns to normality and we have some nice discussion. If you don't admit it then the forum continues like this for at least a little while until we all get bored or the forum closes from lack of active discussion.

[Aiden]

It still shouldn't though, you gain nothing from knowing how many coco pops are in a bowl. However, if these people are really interested in that then I'm sure they can find a YouTube video :P.

I've actually found the What are you listening to thread useful, if I see a song someone posts and I know the artist, I might go a look up that song to see if I like it. I did do that once :P.

knowing coco pops is useful to

you can see what the average is and if you should cut down js

[Mr-Trainor]

its mean to call someone a liar geeeeez
It's rude for saying people are stupid if they don't know how to use every function of complicated video editing software the first time they've tried it.

[Inseriousity.]

And now the point has finally been proven. Quality control is an aspect of Moderation. Now that we have determined that in fact quality should and IS enforced can we now have an actual discussion about the degree of enforcement.

Why don't you be more constructive then and start the actual discussion about where you think the line should be drawn? Perhaps then we can avoid the straw man argument that you have so far presented.

[Grig]

knowing coco pops is useful to

you can see what the average is and if you should cut down js

This has probably been the silliest reply that I've seen in a while.

[Aiden]

It's rude for saying people are stupid if they don't know how to use every function of complicated video editing software the first time they've tried it.

idc cuz i am rude, not gonna deny it

[Mr-Trainor]

knowing coco pops is useful to

you can see what the average is and if you should cut down js
Yeah because you're going to accurately measure the quantity of coco pops you use every time you decided to have a bowl of them..

[Aiden]

This has probably been the silliest reply that I've seen in a while.

thanks, means a lot ;) <3

---------- Post added 19-05-2013 at 02:06 PM ----------


Yeah because you're going to accurately measure the quantity of coco pops you use every time you decided to have a bowl of them..

some ppl are different, u shoudnt judge

[Chippiewill]

Why don't you be more constructive then and start the actual discussion about where you think the line should be drawn? Perhaps then we can avoid the straw man argument that you have so far presented.

I did try to, but Matt and Chris adamantly refused to admit that moderation involved enforcing quality. The venture could have been avoided entirely if they weren't so stubborn.

[xxMATTGxx]

Because I already did. Whether you admit it or not doesn't really affect me, but since quality was just enforced the point has already been conceded. What happens now is what's important, if you admit it then you get to enforce the rules as have been dictated in the FAQ and the forum returns to normality and we have some nice discussion. If you don't admit it then the forum continues like this for at least a little while until we all get bored or the forum closes from lack of active discussion.

You want the forum to return back to normal? That would happen if you didn't complain about the threads in the first place.

[sex]

i can't wait for monday when the children (kardan and chipwell) go back to school lol

[xxMATTGxx]

I did try to, but Matt and Chris adamantly refused to admit that moderation involved enforcing quality. The venture could have been avoided entirely if they weren't so stubborn.

You will also find Mike said something similar:


This is the easiest solution. It's bizarre that everyone forgets it lol.

I do not think it is the job of the moderation department to determine what threads are good or bad. It's always made no sense to me how people forget that ultimately, threads die. Threads have a limited life span so to complain about them is a waste of time. Keep posting good threads and they'll be gathering dust on page 2 before you know it.

[Chippiewill]

You want the forum to return back to normal? That would happen if you didn't complain about the threads in the first place.

Skandair spamming post your threads is not what I would regard as 'normality'.

[Mr-Trainor]

I did try to, but Matt and Chris adamantly refused to admit that moderation involved enforcing quality. The venture could have been avoided entirely if they weren't so stubborn.
Well you clearly ignored my post where I already explained that this was a case of the forum rules being enforced, where it says any thread that has no point will be moved to Spam.

[Chippiewill]

You will also find Mike said something similar:

Then it's all the more ironic that he'd be the one to complain about it.

---------- Post added 19-05-2013 at 03:09 PM ----------


Well you clearly ignored my post where I already explained that this was a case of the forum rules being enforced, where it says any thread that has no point will be moved to Spam.

Which is clearly enforcing quality. As I said I don't care if you recognise it or not. Your loss if you don't.

[Aiden]

Skandair spamming post your threads is not what I would regard as 'normality'.

can you stop singling me out, this is all your fault, if you insist on good content threads, make some interesting ones and i wont have to spam, k thnks

[Mr-Trainor]

can you stop singling me out, this is all your fault, if you insist on good content threads, make some interesting ones and i wont have to spam, k thnks
Or you could make some yourself.

[Chippiewill]

can you stop singling me out, this is all your fault, if you insist on good content threads, make some interesting ones and i wont have to spam, k thnks

As was proven historically when the post your threads were banished, good quality discussion arises from the vanquishing of terrible threads.

[Aiden]

As was proven historically when the post your threads were banished, good quality discussion arises from the vanquishing of terrible threads.

omg u r so annoying

can u just speak like a normal person

i cant understand half what u talk about

[Chippiewill]

omg u r so annoying

can u just speak like a normal person

i cant understand half what u talk about

get rid of **** threads and you get good ones instead.

[Aiden]

get rid of **** threads and you get good ones instead.

what if i say no?

---------- Post added 19-05-2013 at 02:15 PM ----------


Or you could make some yourself.

no cuz i dont have a problem with it :L

[Chippiewill]

what if i say no?
I had a feeling you might say no which I why I'm attempting to work around that.

[Aiden]

I had a feeling you might say no which I why I'm attempting to work around that.

good luck with that but im bored now :|

[Mr-Trainor]

what if i say no?

---------- Post added 19-05-2013 at 02:15 PM ----------



no cuz i dont have a problem with it :L
You were just complaining about it..

[Aiden]

You were just complaining about it..

opinions change though?

[Inseriousity.]

As was proven historically when the post your threads were banished, good quality discussion arises from the vanquishing of terrible threads.

What is your definition of a terrible thread? Should this thread be banished to the spam forum for all the one sentence replies and endless back and forth of ***-for-tat? What about threads that don't have reams of paragraphs? Does everyone need to start writing essays? If you wish to start banishing terrible threads, you should at least state how you would define that for moderators to act on. Give the criteria that moderators should use to get rid of the terrible threads. Come up with that and then you might actually get somewhere with your argument.

[Chippiewill]

I think any thread which doesn't promote active discussion should be moved to spam. Very simple AND ITS ALREADY A RULE.

[Mr-Trainor]

opinions change though?
I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall, everything I've said in this thread and the Eurovision winners thread, you've come up with a response like this. Less than 10 minutes ago you said, and I quote:
make some interesting ones and i wont have to spam
Firstly, you said you're scared of Spam. Secondly, go make some threads yourself then. Although tbh, there are a lot of good threads atm where you can go and post, just go look in a few forums and you'll find one :P.

[Inseriousity.]

I think any thread which doesn't promote active discussion should be moved to spam. Very simple AND ITS ALREADY A RULE.

So what's active discussion? How many people need to be discussing it before it's active? How far do they have to discuss it for it to be considered a worthwhile discussion?

[Mr-Trainor]

I think any thread which doesn't promote active discussion should be moved to spam. Very simple AND ITS ALREADY A RULE.
Any thread which has no point, is moved to spam - as stated in the Spam forum rules.

[Richie]

In fairness though does anyone really give a **** about what colour tiles someone has on their roof lol

[Aiden]

I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall, everything I've said in this thread and the Eurovision winners thread, you've come up with a response like this. Less than 10 minutes ago you said, and I quote:
make some interesting ones and i wont have to spam
Firstly, you said you're scared of Spam. Secondly, go make some threads yourself then. Although tbh, there are a lot of good threads atm where you can go and post, just go look in a few forums and you'll find one :P.

so is the fun of the spam intense to be on the forum in the threads like the spam not in the spam? or wut?

[Matthew]

so is the fun of the spam intense to be on the forum in the threads like the spam not in the spam? or wut?

Uhm.. What?

[Aiden]

Uhm.. What?

i want pony but i need a bridge 2 in the garden . halp?

and stop -repping me geeez

[Chippiewill]

So what's active discussion? How many people need to be discussing it before it's active? How far do they have to discuss it for it to be considered a worthwhile discussion?
It's difficult to tell, but let's not kid ourselves that Post a Random Image promotes active discussion, in fact the thread rules actively DISCOURAGE active discussion. Same with Coco pops and the first letter of the name thread. Of course it's a fuzzy line and that is why traditionally there was in fact a rule requiring permission to create any 'Post Your' thread and it was very effective on cutting down on threads which don't promote active discussion. As Mr-Trainor has said, use of common sense, if someone has created a thread right along the same vein as another recent thread and it's not even a remotely interesting topic (e.g. "what documents do you have open in np++ or <insert ide/text editor here>" or "Post your keyboard.") then it's obviously not going to promote discussion.


Any thread which has no point, is moved to spam - as stated in the Spam forum rules.
In reality I have no issue with the rule, but under the pretence of not enforcing quality that flies in the face of common sense.

[Mr-Trainor]

In fairness though does anyone really give a **** about what colour tiles someone has on their roof lol
Forgot about that one LOL. Although that's much better than the coco pops thread :P.

i want pony but i need a bridge 2 in the garden . halp?

and stop -repping me geeez
Huh?

[Aiden]

Forgot about that one LOL. Although that's much better than the coco pops thread :P.

Huh?
im still confused if this is in spam or not so i duno:s

just get over it, you complained about it and it got worst :L (not u, but ppl)

[Mr-Trainor]

im still confused if this is in spam or not so i duno:s

just get over it, you complained about it and it got worst :L (not u, but ppl)
The coco pops thread was moved to spam, therefore it got better :P.

[Aiden]

The coco pops thread was moved to spam, therefore it got better :P.

no but i dont get what coco pops have to do with spam? isnt spam a fish or something? bit of a random thng to do

[Mr-Trainor]

no but i dont get what coco pops have to do with spam? isnt spam a fish or something? bit of a random thng to do
You know perfectly well what it means.

[Aiden]

You know perfectly well what it means.

no i dnt im stupid

[mrwoooooooo]

*REMOVED*

Edited by Lee (Forum Super Moderator): Don't avoid the filter.

[David]

lol mr trainer be getting trolled good fight

wonder how many people (excluding the shoe guy since he reports everything) are reporting all these threads

[Aiden]

who is the shoe guy :S

[Mr-Trainor]

lol mr trainer be getting trolled good fight

wonder how many people (excluding the shoe guy since he reports everything) are reporting all these threads
Excuse me? I haven't actually reported any of these threads, and I'd appreciate it if you stopped with your rudeness towards me.

---------- Post added 19-05-2013 at 03:51 PM ----------


who is the shoe guy :S
He's referring to me.

[Aiden]

Excuse me? I haven't actually reported any of these threads, and I'd appreciate it if you stopped with your rudeness towards me.

---------- Post added 19-05-2013 at 03:51 PM ----------


He's referring to me.

pedos like feet, well so ive heard js

Edited by Lee (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't post pointlessly.

[Mr-Trainor]

pedos like feet, well so ive heard js
Are you aiming that at me?

[David]

bet you just reported my post though right

[xxMATTGxx]

Apparently the threads haven't been getting a lot of reports. There is only one way to solve this.... POLL.

[Mr-Trainor]

bet you just reported my post though right
Too busy making a complaint about multiple posts that have been ignored.

[Tom]

I don't think this thread has a point and it doesn't interest me, meaning it's not good quality. Let's move it to spam please ;l

I don't even know who's side is who's anymore. Lost the topic ages ago when it transcended into something stupid.

[Aiden]

Are you aiming that at me?

no, i wodnt say sometung lyk dat

[Chippiewill]

Apparently the threads haven't been getting a lot of reports. There is only one way to solve this.... POLL.

I thought polls weren't going to be used anymore?

---------- Post added 19-05-2013 at 03:56 PM ----------


I don't think this thread has a point and it doesn't interest me, meaning it's not good quality. Let's move it to spam please ;l

I don't even know who's side is who's anymore. Lost the topic ages ago when it transcended into something stupid.

But there is active discussion.

[Lewis]

hello is this turning into a troll thread? is it possible to make a setting so it requires a maximum of five words per post or something instead of the amount of letters?

[xxMATTGxx]

I thought polls weren't going to be used anymore?

I assume you missed the poll about allowing images of yourself in avatars and signatures then...

[mrwoooooooo]

Apparently the threads haven't been getting a lot of reports. There is only one way to solve this.... POLL.
try making a decision yourself for once

[xxMATTGxx]

try making a decision yourself for once

Technically management already have you just don't like it. Hence why this is thread is still going on and on.

[Chippiewill]

I assume you missed the poll about allowing images of yourself in avatars and signatures then...

Results were hidden so I figured you were using it as a scapegoat.

[xxMATTGxx]

Results were hidden so I figured you were using it as a scapegoat.

Results are only hidden during the voting process.


Votes are hidden so that people don't just vote for whatever seems the most popular.

[Tom]

But there is active discussion.

True, but the discussion is just pointless and won't help me in anything. Move to spam.

[mrwoooooooo]

Technically management already have you just don't like it. Hence why this is thread is still going on and on.

What did management decide then? All threads are not spam?

[Chippiewill]

True, but the discussion is just pointless and won't help me in anything. Move to spam.

If this is a parody then it's not a particularly good one.

[Adam]

True, but the discussion is just pointless and won't help me in anything. Move to spam.
not everything is about you, my lord, my liege.

[xxMATTGxx]

What did management decide then? All threads are not spam?

Management decided that we shouldn't be limiting what threads can be posted even further. Which is the whole reason why you/Will/Kardan and anyone else is still posting in here arguing that it should be about quality and not quantity.

The reason for the poll is because from the start of the thread quite a lot of people didn't agree with what Chippiewill was saying. If there was a poll at least everyone would have a better outlook at what people actually think about the threads being posted.

[Aiden]

MOVE EVERYTHING TO SPAM BECAUSE THEN EVERYTHING WILL BE OKAY BECAUSE ... WELL NOTHING WILL REALLY CHANGE BESIDES THE FORUM WHICH ISNT NEEDEDDDDDDDDDDD :D

[Mr-Trainor]

try making a decision yourself for once
What's wrong with a poll to involve the community in the decision making process :P. And in the pics as avatars/signatures thread, people asked for a poll.

[Tom]

not everything is about you, my lord, my liege.

I'm just being annoyingly sarcastic, I apologise for my behaviour.

This thread is becoming just as annoying though.

[Chippiewill]

This thread is becoming just as annoying though.

Don't read it then.

[David]

I'm just being annoyingly sarcastic, I apologise for my behaviour.

This thread is becoming just as annoying though.

inb4 Chippiewill; says "donthav2readit"

damn he beat me

[Aiden]

can we vote for ppl we want to ip ban? (i would be gone first probs :L)

[David]

can we vote for ppl we want to ip ban? (i would be gone first probs :L)

no bradlong would be first

[Chippiewill]

can we vote for ppl we want to ip ban? (i would be gone first probs :L)

Well we've already discovered we can vote for hell bans.. so probably.

[Tom]

Don't read it then.

Damn I wish I could remember the whole argument about reading threads before :(

[Aiden]

Well we've already discovered we can vote for hell bans.. so probably.

oh great (n)

no bradlong would be first

*REMOVED*

Edited by Lee (Forum Super Moderator): Do not be rude to other members.

[Adam]

Damn I wish I could remember the whole argument about reading threads before :(
I think it's amazing how many people don't know there is an 'ignore' feature on this forum. Use it instead of complaining.

[Zelda]

oh great (n)


*REMOVED*

bit rude about poor brad aiden.........

in fairness agree with adam there is an ignore feature lmfao

[Tom]

I think it's amazing how many people don't know there is an 'ignore' feature on this forum. Use it instead of complaining.

I wouldn't use it, I'm just jumping into whatever is happening on the forum. You know, joining the active discussion and all that.

[Aiden]

bit rude about poor brad aiden.........

in fairness agree with adam there is an ignore feature lmfao

ik but i used to ignore mcdonalds; but then i wanted to reply to her and read what she put so its usless.. plus the ppl u might want to ignore probs are some of the most active members

and he is mean :( he tweeted em and said that i was ginger and jelous of him :((

[Adam]

I wouldn't use it, I'm just jumping into whatever is happening on the forum. You know, joining the active discussion and all that.
stop complaining then.

[Kardan]

Missed the last 12 pages or so, anyone want to sum up why coco pops got moved to spam?

[xxMATTGxx]

Missed the last 12 pages or so, anyone want to sum up why coco pops got moved to spam?

Kellogg's contacted Habbox and asked for the thread to be moved.

[Mr-Trainor]

Missed the last 12 pages or so, anyone want to sum up why coco pops got moved to spam?
1 - It has no point. Any threads with no point belong in Spam, as in the Spam forum rules.
2 - It was agreed that it's highly unlikely anyone would actually count the cocopops quantity in a bowl :P.
3 - The information, even if people did count, is hardly useful.

[xxMATTGxx]

Anyway, we may as well do a poll to see the numbers to see who agrees with what. Then we can see if we do need to change the decision on the threads. So I've been thinking about the poll options:


Move the threads into a sub-forum under "Discuss Anything" with post count enabled
Move the threads into a sub-forum under "Discuss Anything" with post count disabled
Move them all to spam
Ban them altogether
Don't change anything and let them continue


Feel free to change them to ones that you think would make more sense.

[Mr-Trainor]

Anyway, we may as well do a poll to see the numbers to see who agrees with what. Then we can see if we do need to change the decision on the threads. So I've been thinking about the poll options:


Move the threads into a sub-forum under "Discuss Anything" with post count enabled
Move the threads into a sub-forum under "Discuss Anything" with post count disabled
Move them all to spam
Ban them altogether
Don't change anything and let them continue


Feel free to change them to ones that you think would make more sense.
The section option just seems like another Spam forum tbh. And it depends what kind of threads you're talking about? Some of them are fine, some of them are not - I think the current rules can deal with the ones that aren't, e.g. coco pops one was moved for having no point.

[David]

dont need another forum, just move them to spam i say so they can die off
also there's no chance of having that ignore plugin?

[xxMATTGxx]

dont need another forum, just move them to spam i say so they can die off
also there's no chance of having that ignore plugin?

The plugin will have to come at a later date due to the template changes.

[David]

heard you're waiting on Skynus; to do images before v7 is done ;l;l
move them to spam then :¬:

[xxMATTGxx]

The section option just seems like another Spam forum tbh. And it depends what kind of threads you're talking about? Some of them are fine, some of them are not - I think the current rules can deal with the ones that aren't, e.g. coco pops one was moved for having no point.

Threads that create very little discussion or short answers such as yes or no. I also assume threads where you post a picture of your router/graphics card is also included. But Chippiewill; may also want threads like "What are you listening to" to be part of it.

---------- Post added 19-05-2013 at 07:16 PM ----------


heard you're waiting on Skynus; to do images before v7 is done ;l;l
move them to spam then :¬:

Didn't he say something about waiting for Will? :P

[Kardan]

1 - It has no point. Any threads with no point belong in Spam, as in the Spam forum rules.
2 - It was agreed that it's highly unlikely anyone would actually count the cocopops quantity in a bowl :P.
3 - The information, even if people did count, is hardly useful.

The things in bold are subjective. Some people may think it has a point, and the information may be useful.
As for the second point, I didn't realise that people had to post truthful things :P In that case, we need to get rid of many, many threads :P

---------- Post added 19-05-2013 at 07:18 PM ----------


Anyway, we may as well do a poll to see the numbers to see who agrees with what. Then we can see if we do need to change the decision on the threads. So I've been thinking about the poll options:


Move the threads into a sub-forum under "Discuss Anything" with post count enabled
Move the threads into a sub-forum under "Discuss Anything" with post count disabled
Move them all to spam
Ban them altogether
Don't change anything and let them continue


Feel free to change them to ones that you think would make more sense.

What falls under 'the threads' though?

[Chippiewill]

Anyway, we may as well do a poll to see the numbers to see who agrees with what. Then we can see if we do need to change the decision on the threads. So I've been thinking about the poll options:


Move the threads into a sub-forum under "Discuss Anything" with post count enabled
Move the threads into a sub-forum under "Discuss Anything" with post count disabled
Move them all to spam
Ban them altogether
Don't change anything and let them continue


Feel free to change them to ones that you think would make more sense.

Make it multiple choice.

[xxMATTGxx]

The things in bold are subjective. Some people may think it has a point, and the information may be useful.
As for the second point, I didn't realise that people had to post truthful things :P In that case, we need to get rid of many, many threads :P

---------- Post added 19-05-2013 at 07:18 PM ----------



What falls under 'the threads' though?

Which ever ones you, Chippiewill and anyone else who doesn't like them can come up with.

[Zelda]

sub-forum with post count enabled or no movement I'd probably say but removing the stupid ones like the cocopops. If we just keep removing post count from stuff then it's just gonna put off new members from joining tbh that care about raising their post count which is most of them

[xxMATTGxx]

Kardan; Chippiewill;

Is there any specific threads you would want to include that you think shouldn't be posted in the main forums?

[FlyingJesus]

I just read through this whole thread but I can't understand any of it due to Will's use of a comma splice in the opening post.



4real though I'm personally not overly bothered which way this goes (although I'd rather have non-discussion threads put away in a no-post-count area) as long as the rules are made clear and enacted upon in a consistent way. The only requisite justification for a "pointless" thread in my opinion is one that does not allow for or actively promote discussion; these threads that are being complained about fall under that since typically people go into them to post an answer and then never return, but obviously not everyone will agree with that classification.

[mrwoooooooo]

Kardan; Chippiewill;

Is there any specific threads you would want to include that you think shouldn't be posted in the main forums?

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778143
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778107
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778110
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778083
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778109
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=777979
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=777981
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=777988
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=777991
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=777958
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=777990
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778158
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778069
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778036
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778106
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778105
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778013
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=777989
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=777998
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778006
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778103
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778011
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=777982
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778077

[Mr-Trainor]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778143
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778107
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778110
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778083
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778109
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=777979
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=777981
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=777988
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=777991
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=777958
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=777990
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778158
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778069
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778036
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778106
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778105
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778013
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=777989
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=777998
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778006
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778103
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778011
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=777982
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=778077
Hmm, I think some of those are fine, like 'Do you like peanut butter' but I agree some of those like 'Which multiple choice option would you choose' are a bit.. hmm. It's a matter of opinion in some cases though, as Kardan; said previously.

[AgnesIO]

Hmm, I think some of those are fine, like 'Do you like peanut butter' but I agree some of those like 'Which multiple choice option would you choose' are a bit.. hmm. It's a matter of opinion in some cases though, as @Kardan (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=3428); said previously.

You think "Do you like peanut butter is fine?"? Would you still think that if I posted;

"Do you like jam?"
"Do you like cornflakes?"
"Do you like orange juice?"
"Do you like coffee?"
"Do you like tea?"

And so on, and so on?

[MKR&*42]

I think asking people what their favourite brand of peanut butter (for example) is fine, but not whether they simply like/dislike it. 'Cause you can only really end up with 2 responses.

[Zelda]

Tbh with that one surely it would be more appropriate to ask broader if you wanted some convo topic such as like what do you like to eat and drink for breakfast so at least it brings all those topics in together and perhaps allows a bit of discussion about other people's views on that stuff lmfao. personalyl think do you like peanut butter on it's own is a bit silly though.

Somethign that is true sorta though is a lot of these threads do have a lot of potential to make constructive conversation, example being the thread on shades of blue, though it coulda ended up as 1 words by discussing it you can actually make it into something more really and to label a thread like that might not always be true for some unless they really don't allow for more then 1 word answers.

[Kardan]

I think anything that promotes short answers, such as 'Yes', 'No', 'That's nice!', 'Lol' etc. should be included. This includes posts with just images (Post any image, Post your desktop, Post your headphones etc.), but not PAPOY because there is discussion in there for example.

Generally, most 'Post your'... things fall into that.

But I'm not sure what a new sub-forum would do, because isn't that exactly what assorted/misc did, and people complained when all those threads died...? As much as I would prefer some sort of sub-forum to come back for these 'pointless' threads, we are going back on ourselves, aren't we? (And then surely we risk overriding this decision in the future?)

Problem is, we all have definitions of pointless threads.

---------- Post added 19-05-2013 at 09:30 PM ----------

I guess one thing that could be used as a guideline, is if all the people that are replying are generally posting short answers and not many people are quoting other people (thereby creating discussion).

[David]

I think anything that promotes short answers, such as 'Yes', 'No', 'That's nice!', 'Lol' etc. should be included.

better move the whole of the graphics forum then

[Kardan]

better move the whole of the graphics forum then

I do think that parts of the 'CC' rule should be amongst the whole of the graphics forum, rather than just the threads labelled with CC.

'That's lovely, I love the way you've captured the emotion in that woman's high five!' is a lot better than 'Nice pic bro', and I've seen many people in the past (Well, usually the same person just doing it many times really) posting these generic comments in graphics :P

But as I said, everyone has their own opinion, and I guess I would be more on the strict side really.

[Mr-Trainor]

I never understood that graphics rule tbh, what's wrong with saying you like it?

[Kardan]

I never understood that graphics rule tbh, what's wrong with saying you like it?

Doesn't really contribute to 'discussion', although that rule hasn't been enforced in years.
Also, it stops people going through the whole of the graphics forum, replying 'That's nice' to each thread.

[David]

I never understood that graphics rule tbh, what's wrong with saying you like it?

because some people want to improve and get criticism, not just get told it's nice when most of the time it's really not.

[Mr-Trainor]

because some people want to improve and get criticism, not just get told it's nice when most of the time it's really not.
I like people saying my work is good.. Surely everyone does :P?

[David]

I like people saying my work is good.. Surely everyone does :P?

i prefer being told its **** and why its ****

[Mr-Trainor]

i prefer being told its **** and why its ****
But what if it's good :P?

[David]

But what if it's good :P?

then id like to know why they think its good, not just "its good"

[sex]

i hope no one is considering taking these two children's suggestions into account. they seem to be the only ones who are affected by a few threads and throwing their toys out of the pram despite being well above the age they should stop having strops over teen forums lol. it's habbic all over again, cry and cry and cry and spam the forum till you get your own way lol

[Chippiewill]

they seem to be the only ones who are affected by a few threads

In which case you won't mind if the changes go ahead.

[e5]

I think my "What makes your fart" thread contributed really well to the forum, it's nice to know these kind of things to get to know forum members better.

[Kardan]

i hope no one is considering taking these two children's suggestions into account. they seem to be the only ones who are affected by a few threads and throwing their toys out of the pram despite being well above the age they should stop having strops over teen forums lol. it's habbic all over again, cry and cry and cry and spam the forum till you get your own way lol

Who are you even talking about? So many people have posted in here, it's hard to keep track :P

[Richie]

its becuz i dont care if im liked or not, i think its funny that people get pissed at me by spamming (y) :P
@Chris (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=55895); if that chaps motive is to spam, which he has admitted in the quote above, why hasn't anything been done? I don't see why people would care about the odd 'what are you..' threads, personally I don't see the point in them but if they make people happy I don't see how the odd few threads would hurt anyone but when ppl are blatantly abusing the forum to earn tokens by spam posting these threads I can see it being an annoyance, why don't the mods use their discretion when this happens?

And if ppl start complaining that its not fair cos their threads are being removed and others aren't why you just pm them explaining you used your discretion and believe his/her (or w/e they want to be) motives are to just act the bollox, sorted.

[Zak]

Whoa **** 37 pages what have I missed?!

[Grig]

Whoa **** 37 pages what have I missed?!

Some person purposely spamming with pointless threads.

Of course I fully agree with Richie's statement, it doesn't matter if it's a few times, as it is a forum and we're all here to relax and chat. But, the problem becomes when you blatantly see a member purposely post thread after thread of useless rubbish. I don't see discretion being used that regularly recently, not sure why. It's sometimes extreme common sense, i.e. you clearly see a person is doing something on purpose.

[GoldenMerc]

Spamming for tokens, jeez. Never the less it'll most likely make the forum more posted in, in a few days after everyone gets over it

[Zak]

Some person purposely spamming with pointless threads.

Of course I fully agree with Richie's statement, it doesn't matter if it's a few times, as it is a forum and we're all here to relax and chat. But, the problem becomes when you blatantly see a member purposely post thread after thread of useless rubbish. I don't see discretion being used that regularly recently, not sure why. It's sometimes extreme common sense, i.e. you clearly see a person is doing something on purpose.

I bet it's that Skandair, I'm determinded not to go on any other page than this one :P

If it is omg every post has a poll in it... I'm for anything that promotes discussion but some of them are stupid. Suppose it gives me something to post about though. It's these dam tokens, who actually cares how many tokens they have? Not me that's for sure!!!

[Kardan]

I bet it's that Skandair, I'm determinded not to go on any other page than this one :P

If it is omg every post has a poll in it... I'm for anything that promotes discussion but some of them are stupid. Suppose it gives me something to post about though. It's these dam tokens, who actually cares how many tokens they have? Not me that's for sure!!!

To be fair, the tokens don't have any use at all really. You can buy VIP features, useless if you have VIP. And you can buy VIP/Donator. VIP gets handed out so often, that there's no need to worry about not having any, and what would you buy donator, when you have the superior VIP?

So I don't understand why tokens are important. And considering the people towards the top of the token list have said they haven't spent any, perhaps it's just another number that people like to get the most of.

[Aiden]

I bet it's that Skandair, I'm determinded not to go on any other page than this one :P


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AIDEN IS ME BTW LOL

[AgnesIO]

To be fair, the tokens don't have any use at all really. You can buy VIP features, useless if you have VIP. And you can buy VIP/Donator. VIP gets handed out so often, that there's no need to worry about not having any, and what would you buy donator, when you have the superior VIP?

So I don't understand why tokens are important. And considering the people towards the top of the token list have said they haven't spent any, perhaps it's just another number that people like to get the most of.

The tokens thing hasn't been rolled out properly at all.

One key thing I highlighted at the time was they needed some sort of low value prizes - these are simply non-existent.

[buttons]

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/37994918.jpg

AIDEN IS ME BTW LOL
LOL

Edited by Lee (Forum Super Moderator): Please don't post pointlessly. :Thumbs-Down:

[Zak]

To be fair, the tokens don't have any use at all really. You can buy VIP features, useless if you have VIP. And you can buy VIP/Donator. VIP gets handed out so often, that there's no need to worry about not having any, and what would you buy donator, when you have the superior VIP?

So I don't understand why tokens are important. And considering the people towards the top of the token list have said they haven't spent any, perhaps it's just another number that people like to get the most of.

I was thinking more along the lines of something someone has to have the most in :P


http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/37994918.jpg

AIDEN IS ME BTW LOL

So it was you :P To be fair some of your threads are pretty horrific :P POLL ON EVERY THREAD. How many tokens does that get you :P I bet you know don't you :P

[Aiden]

I was thinking more along the lines of something someone has to have the most in :P



So it was you :P To be fair some of your threads are pretty horrific :P POLL ON EVERY THREAD. How many tokens does that get you :P I bet you know don't you :P

Well it says you get 10 toekns for making a poll but i think thats untrue ;)

you get 1 for voting i think though lol

[Zak]

Well it says you get 10 toekns for making a poll but i think thats untrue ;)

you get 1 for voting i think though lol

I usually just post a reply and never touch the poll anyway :P I bet this thread is really making your tokens go up!!! :P

[Aiden]

I usually just post a reply and never touch the poll anyway :P I bet this thread is really making your tokens go up!!! :P

Not really I havnt replied much tbh out of 38 pages lolol I was asleep whiles the first 10 pages.

[Mr-Trainor]

I bet it's that Skandair, I'm determinded not to go on any other page than this one :P

If it is omg every post has a poll in it... I'm for anything that promotes discussion but some of them are stupid. Suppose it gives me something to post about though. It's these dam tokens, who actually cares how many tokens they have? Not me that's for sure!!!
They're going to be adding Habbo Credits to the shop, and it's because of this 'blatant spamming for tokens', as someone called it, that I suggested there should be a limit to the amount of times someone can buy credits from the shop within a certain time period - even if that limit is just temporary to see how the initial prices work out.

Well it says you get 10 toekns for making a poll but i think thats untrue ;)

you get 1 for voting i think though lol
You get 5 for each vote - multiple choice with 15 options and you vote them all?.. that's 75 tokens.

[Aiden]

They're going to be adding Habbo Credits to the shop, and it's because of this 'blatant spamming for tokens', as someone called it, that I suggested there should be a limit to the amount of times someone can buy credits from the shop within a certain time period - even if that limit is just temporary to see how the initial prices work out.

You get 5 for each vote - multiple choice with 15 options and you vote them all?.. that's 75 tokens.

can you do that? would that work? :OOOOOOOO

omgggg :L

[AgnesIO]

They're going to be adding Habbo Credits to the shop, and it's because of this 'blatant spamming for tokens', as someone called it, that I suggested there should be a limit to the amount of times someone can buy credits from the shop within a certain time period - even if that limit is just temporary to see how the initial prices work out.

You get 5 for each vote - multiple choice with 15 options and you vote them all?.. that's 75 tokens.

I believe you get 5 tokens full stop.

[Mr-Trainor]

I believe you get 5 tokens full stop.
Nope, it's definitely 5 per option voted :P. Idk why though..

[xxMATTGxx]

I thought you got so many for creating the poll. Then if other users voted in the poll they would get tokens but not the actual poll creator?

[Zak]

I vote get rid of tokens

[AgnesIO]

I thought you got so many for creating the poll. Then if other users voted in the poll they would get tokens but not the actual poll creator?

Nope, not the poll creator.

Luke means the voter could select 10 options in a multiple choice poll and get 50 tokens for it.

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[xxMATTGxx]

Nope, not the poll creator.

Luke means the voter could select 10 options in a multiple choice poll and get 50 tokens for it.

Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

Ah okay, yeah that would make more sense.

[Inseriousity.]

They're going to be adding Habbo Credits to the shop, and it's because of this 'blatant spamming for tokens', as someone called it, that I suggested there should be a limit to the amount of times someone can buy credits from the shop within a certain time period - even if that limit is just temporary to see how the initial prices work out.

You get 5 for each vote - multiple choice with 15 options and you vote them all?.. that's 75 tokens.

omg why didnt i see that idea, that might work!

[Kardan]

You need to disable tokens for voting in a poll.

[Adam]

I think the best thing to do here is to ban Skandair.

[Aiden]

I think the best thing to do here is to ban Skandair.

or we couldn't ;)

[Chris]

The poll voting might become a real problem now that people are aware of how it works so I've stopped tokens from being earned by voting.

[Kardan]

The poll voting might become a real problem now that people are aware of how it works so I've stopped tokens from being earned by voting.

Thank you :)

[Chippiewill]

One key thing I highlighted at the time was they needed some sort of low value prizes - these are simply non-existent.

I think this has still fallen on deaf ears in all honesty, in any attempt to discuss low value prizes Chris; has just completely ignored it.

[Chris]

If you have any suggestions for low prizes other than rep then go ahead and suggest them in the tokens feedback thread. I can't remember if there were actually any suggestions last time so I apologise if you did.

[Phil]

The poll voting might become a real problem now that people are aware of how it works so I've stopped tokens from being earned by voting.

I just got ten tokens for voting for two different options in the thread that Matt just created

[Chris]

I just got ten tokens for voting for two different options in the thread that Matt just created

Sorted. I didn't realise there was two to disable. :P