Attitudes of Community Staff

[Jazz]

Loads of people have been coming to me like complaining, I have no idea why because I don't really care too much but now i've noticed it, its getting so annoying.

Theres a group of staff, mainly community staff (Events and HxL) who are constantly at eachothers throats 24/7 causing the connections between lots of the community departments to split down the middle. HxL arent advertising events, events arent advertising HxL.. all because of some stupid arguments that wouldnt fit too much out of place in a Habbo Adoption Centre.

All I see when I look on the forum, go into events or go on skype is SHE SAID THIS, HE SAID THAT, HE WONT DO THIS, YOU DONT LIKE ME, I DONT LIKE ANYONE and its getting past mildly amusing and turning into annoying. I used to be able to have a nice conversation with a whole department without someone making comments about other staff members, being idiots and leaking info about other departments and being nasty. Now all I see is a group of 12 year olds who think, because they host events or because they are on the radio that they are one step up from everyone else.. yeah.

Some of the departments and the little groups inside have completely messed up the look of the whole fansite. There are some lovely people in events and hxl, but there are also quite a few idiots and stirrers. Its very hard to be able to trust any of the community departments because of the few that like to cause trouble.

Its horrible to see really, and yeah I get angry and flip out so me saying this could be ironic to you but ive been here for near on 3 years and watching go from a brilliant community fansite to nothing more than a stricter version of thishabbo.. its quite sad. Hopefully community management, or general management will step in and actually do something about it. Because at the rate this stuff is going.. its going to cause some serious problems. (Doesnt include Jade and Mark, because they are actually trying)

[Calum0812]

From the people I personally have spoken to at events, I've never had an issue with them and I hope there is no issue with me. Nonetheless, it wouldn't surprise me if EVERYTHING you said above it spot on.

Team work is key. Lets hope we get some!

[Aiden]

why do i miss all the drama? when is this happening? sounds fun :(

[Kardan]

I think a massive factor in this, is that both the Events team and the HxL team are the two biggest departments on Habbox. I can't say for sure, since I'm not a staff member, but I'd imagine that there's a big community feel in other departments, where people know each other, and are friendly with each other, than these two departments.

[Aiden]

I think a massive factor in this, is that both the Events team and the HxL team are the two biggest departments on Habbox. I can't say for sure, since I'm not a staff member, but I'd imagine that there's a big community feel in other departments, where people know each other, and are friendly with each other, than these two departments.

Well I know in Events a lot of people dislike each other
but in Comps theres no arguing ;)

[Zelda]

I think a massive factor in this, is that both the Events team and the HxL team are the two biggest departments on Habbox. I can't say for sure, since I'm not a staff member, but I'd imagine that there's a big community feel in other departments, where people know each other, and are friendly with each other, than these two departments.

yea pretty much the case for smaller deps like graphics content and news that is, especially from the experience i've had in those 3 lmao, much nicer community feels in them

[Kardan]

Well I know in Events a lot of people dislike each other
but in Comps theres no arguing ;)

There's 8 competition staff.
There's 23 events staff.
There's 45 HxL staff.

You're going to get a lot more conflict in 23+45 people than 8.

[Jazz]

I think a massive factor in this, is that both the Events team and the HxL team are the two biggest departments on Habbox. I can't say for sure, since I'm not a staff member, but I'd imagine that there's a big community feel in other departments, where people know each other, and are friendly with each other, than these two departments.

I think a small group of events and a small group of hxl staff all got into a massive row about something. I mean comps, news, rv, content, gfx are all pretty dramaless but events and hxl mainly are always at eachothers necks

[Aiden]

There's 8 competition staff.
There's 23 events staff.
There's 45 HxL staff.

You're going to get a lot more conflict in 23+45 people than 8.

i know, is that not what you meant? ohh loool

[Kardan]

I think a small group of events and a small group of hxl staff all got into a massive row about something. I mean comps, news, rv, content, gfx are all pretty dramaless but events and hxl mainly are always at eachothers necks

Indeed, I didn't suggest it was the whole of the two departments hating each other :) Just with more staff in those departments, there's more chance of trouble brewing :) Plus the two departments are pretty similar, events providing entertainment within the game, and HxL providing entertainment outside of the game. The two could be seen to be in competition with each other really.

Plus, just another assumption, but it's fairly clear to say that these two departments would have the youngest staff members in general.

[Jazz]

Indeed, I didn't suggest it was the whole of the two departments hating each other :) Just with more staff in those departments, there's more chance of trouble brewing :) Plus the two departments are pretty similar, events providing entertainment within the game, and HxL providing entertainment outside of the game. The two could be seen to be in competition with each other really.

Plus, just another assumption, but it's fairly clear to say that these two departments would have the youngest staff members in general.

yeah most of the staff excluding senior plus are between 13 - 15 from what ive noticed

[Grig]

HxL had periods when there was no drama, but this was a long long time ago. It can work, but needs a number of factors to do so.

Nowadays, it's always something to do with HxL and staff drama and what I used to do was just come down on it like a pile of bricks, because that's simply not cool and hampers the department.

This is why I love the content based departments- nice and peaceful!

[Foregetfuhl]

HxL had periods when there was no drama, but this was a long long time ago. It can work, but needs a number of factors to do so.

Nowadays, it's always something to do with HxL and staff drama and what I used to do was just come down on it like a pile of bricks, because that's simply not cool and hampers the department.

This is why I love the content based departments- nice and peaceful!

Actually we haven't had any serious drama issues since Christmas really up until this month.

I think the issue is you have 45 staff members, not everyone's going to like everyone and it can cause a lot of conflict as opposed to departments that are smaller in size. I made it perfectly clear months ago that people need to just get on and be civil with one another and the majority of the time it is fine just sometimes little issues can arise and these dramas do occur. You just sort it out and move on for a couple of months before the next one comes up. With a department this large it is bound to occur, we just hope it doesn't.

[Kardan]

I think as long as managers tackle the issues efficiently, and that these issues stay behind closed doors (e.g: aren't broadcast on air etc.) then there's not much that can be changed, unless you want to fire people on the basis of being immature, which isn't the way forward really.

[MKR&*42]

Haven't read many posts besides the original but I agree rather strongly with events, not too sure about HxL don't pay much attention. There seems to be a fair few EOs (and Ex-EOs now) going at each other's throats in events which doesn't really look good for the community :P

Not that HFFM/TH events are definitely better, it's usually the users going at each other's throats from what I've seen in those events but I won't generalise.

[orientalframe?]

actually, events management have noticed and they are doing something about it - so saying that they're 'not trying' is not quite true :P there isn't really much you can do, i'd definitely agree that events and hxl have the youngest staff members and you can expect a few rows here and there. not EVERYONE is going to get along - but hopefully this will be sorted out soon :)

[Aiden]

actually, events management have noticed and they are doing something about it - so saying that they're 'not trying' is not quite true :P there isn't really much you can do, i'd definitely agree that events and hxl have the youngest staff members and you can expect a few rows here and there. not EVERYONE is going to get along - but hopefully this will be sorted out soon :)

what have they done (not saying they havnt done anything, just havnt seen anything myself) :S

[Martin]

what have they done (not saying they havnt done anything, just havnt seen anything myself) :S

You've replied to the threads in the events staff forum relating to these issues so unless you were closing your eyes, or not paying attention to them then I'm confused. Also there have recently been various warnings issued to certain staff relating to issues within events, even some leading to dismissal.


The fact is, there have always been arguments at Habbox, even back when I was AGM community this used to happen occasionally and its not something that can be avoided really. People will naturally fall out with people, and try to cause trouble. What I've noticed personally is that the main cause is that people are acting childish about the situation rather than taking a more professional approach to things and doing things properly. If people actually bothered to follow the correct procedures and report things correctly rather than taking matters into their own hands then things would be a lot easier to resolve and this is something that is being worked on continuously.

There has also been the introduction of staff bonding which we ran every day for like 14 days to get people in the team to work with each other and try to get along- but again only the same people turned up really and even then people were moaning/causing arguments etc. We are trying but it requires effort from both sides really and its not always easy to make people 'grow up'.

[Aiden]

You've replied to the threads in the events staff forum relating to these issues so unless you were closing your eyes, or not paying attention to them then I'm confused. Also there have recently been various warnings issued to certain staff relating to issues within events, even some leading to dismissal.


The fact is, there have always been arguments at Habbox, even back when I was AGM community this used to happen occasionally and its not something that can be avoided really. People will naturally fall out with people, and try to cause trouble. What I've noticed personally is that the main cause is that people are acting childish about the situation rather than taking a more professional approach to things and doing things properly. If people actually bothered to follow the correct procedures and report things correctly rather than taking matters into their own hands then things would be a lot easier to resolve and this is something that is being worked on continuously.

There has also been the introduction of staff bonding which we ran every day for like 14 days to get people in the team to work with each other and try to get along- but again only the same people turned up really and even then people were moaning/causing arguments etc. We are trying but it requires effort from both sides really and its not always easy to make people 'grow up'.

I seen the post but that doesn't change anything really. ;) Warnings should though... :P

[Tom]

I do agree that there is a lot of conflict between Events and HabboxLive (mainly, not saying it's just those) but it can't be resolved with a click of some fingers. It's up to the managers how strict they are, but these things do take time and, from what I've seen, it's not been very severe/noticeable until recently.

The 'younger generation' are all rebels now apparently, so it should be expected I guess.

[Inseriousity.]

I think as long as managers tackle the issues efficiently, and that these issues stay behind closed doors (e.g: aren't broadcast on air etc.) then there's not much that can be changed, unless you want to fire people on the basis of being immature, which isn't the way forward really.

This basically. We have actually fired people before for doing it all in public and staff have been warned that if they wish to be unprofessional and start airing dirty laundry in public then they will go the same way.
You won't see management doing much about it because it's obviously not something we talk about to the public but I can assure you we have noticed the constant bickering and given stern advice to those involved. The annoying thing for me is that all it takes is one dj or one eo to say actually I've had enough I'm not going to fall for the bait and it would die down but we also have to remember that the staff are a bunch of hormone bombs just waiting to explode but we'll try our best to keep them controlled and avoid any casualties (okay this analogy is getting ridiculous now).

[God]

Well from my time in events and HxL, I was tormented in Events dept. but in Hxl I was accepted and everyone was nice and helpful. HxL was more of a community, because Jade, Jazz and the Heads worked really hard to keep it that way. I know in events the Senior+ people and some staff all have their own little group in the dept. and would push people away and were extremely rude to me whilst I was in the dept.

In response to what Martin said, people have followed the correct way of reporting people, yet they would never get a reply back, and no action would have been taken on it. I know this from experience and it was really annoying and depressing when people were talking down to you in events and Events Hosts only chat with the Senior+'s watching, then I reported it with the screenies yet nothing was done. When people see that one outlet is not working, they will always go to another, which in my case was to defend myself, which is why I got Fired....



If people actually bothered to follow the correct procedures and report things correctly rather than taking matters into their own hands then things would be a lot easier to resolve and this is something that is being worked on continuously.

[Tom]

Well from my time in events and HxL, I was tormented in Events dept. but in Hxl I was accepted and everyone was nice and helpful. HxL was more of a community, because Jade, Jazz and the Heads worked really hard to keep it that way. I know in events the Senior+ people and some staff all have their own little group in the dept. and would push people away and were extremely rude to me whilst I was in the dept.

In response to what Martin said, people have followed the correct way of reporting people, yet they would never get a reply back, and no action would have been taken on it. I know this from experience and it was really annoying and depressing when people were talking down to you in events and Events Hosts only chat with the Senior+'s watching, then I reported it with the screenies yet nothing was done. When people see that one outlet is not working, they will always go to another, which in my case was to defend myself, which is why I got Fired....



I'm pretty sure you wouldn't have been fired for defending yourself.

It's known already that some Events staff members don't really communicate well in their events, but this is just a matter of leaving it to the managers now to sort out. If they personally see a problem, it'll be solved. If not, then it won't be I guess? Don't really know where I was going with this, but yeah.

[Jurv]

everyone in the events department are superstars i blame hxl

[God]

everyone in the events department are superstars i blame hxl

Maybe you should look a little closer at events.

[Calum0812]

No one is perfect. No department is perfect. Although I know I personally do my best

[Reality]

everyone in the events department are superstars i blame hxl

Hxl is one of the most drematic depts out of them all ._. Don't see why the depts don't get on not like they can't but then again what's a forum for if you don't have bth 'n'?

[Samantha]

The moment people thought cameron; was being serious.

Also, yeah maybe it's noticeable with Events and HabboxLive, but every department will have fall outs - the only difference is (not including the size of the departments) is the fact that those departments are publically involved with members for the majority of the time whether it be on Habbo or on air - they're the main contributors to the advertisement Habbox gets in general and if they're publically arguing and at each other's throats then why would members join; they would believe the rest of the departments are like that.

The thing is, the reason those departments are being brought up and not others is basically because they are the public ones, those little arguments in the smaller departments will occur, but behind closed doors; also, I'd have though in smaller departments, if someone didn't agree arguments would happen more due to difference in opinion and the fact there are less people to side with you or another person.

[FlyingJesus]

I was tormented in Events dept.

Is that not because most of them knew you as the guy who trolled every single event and was rude and disruptive right up until the moment that you decided you wanted to be part of it

[Reality]

The moment people thought @cameron (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=64841); was being serious.

Also, yeah maybe it's noticeable with Events and HabboxLive, but every department will have fall outs - the only difference is (not including the size of the departments) is the fact that those departments are publically involved with members for the majority of the time whether it be on Habbo or on air - they're the main contributors to the advertisement Habbox gets in general and if they're publically arguing and at each other's throats then why would members join; they would believe the rest of the departments are like that.

The thing is, the reason those departments are being brought up and not others is basically because they are the public ones, those little arguments in the smaller departments will occur, but behind closed doors; also, I'd have though in smaller departments, if someone didn't agree arguments would happen more due to difference in opinion and the fact there are less people to side with you or another person.

The moment @Samanfa (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=68263); writes long message ;) takes me years to read them on mobile ;) x

Edited by Bolt660 (Acting Forum Super Moderator): Please stay on topic!

[Samantha]

The moment Samanfa; writes long message ;) takes me years to read them on mobile ;) x

The moment James quotes and mentions me, pick one :( LOL.

I've noticed some attitude is really appalling, we still have the problem of people favouring their friends more, but this has been stamped down a lot - newer people don't want to see the arguments, they want the community.

[Reality]

The moment James quotes and mentions me, pick one :( LOL.

I've noticed some attitude is really appalling, we still have the problem of people favouring their friends more, but this has been stamped down a lot - newer people don't want to see the arguments, they want the community.

The moment Samanfa; becomes scamanfa

And speaks about the new people wanting the community they really want the bchn ;) x

[beth]

GET RID OF EVERYONE.

[Rachel]

To be honest what`s going on via skype should stay via skype. I am getting tired of people leaking stuff public about arguements and such. You can`t expect everyone to get along every day. There is always something sour going around but what can we do about it?
Jade and Mark does their very best to keep the team civilized or what ever you can name it but they can`t do miracles.
I also have no problems with the events staff and I have no reason to.

Jazz I am not pointing at you as you also did a great job at HxL :) x

[Aiden]

GET RID OF EVERYONE.

#solution

[Reality]

Fact is competitions staff are actually watching what they do and don't get into the arguments however HxL and Events have had petty arguments ever since one break out and that's change the communication between the two too change
There's 8 competition staff.
There's 23 events staff.
There's 45 HxL staff.

You're going to get a lot more conflict in 23+45 people than 8.

[Empired]

All you need to do is introduce a HxL and Events Lesbian Hut *cough* @Maria; ;) ARGH EDIT: WHAT'S YOUR USERNAME @Glonk; @maria; IDK

Isn't it best if you just fire the people who are being so difficult? Obviously this is easier said than done but, god, if they're being really difficult the only solution, in the end, is to remove them from HxL/Events/whatever.

[Phil]

All you need to do is introduce a HxL and Events Lesbian Hut *cough* @Maria; ;) ARGH EDIT: WHAT'S YOUR USERNAME @Glonk; @maria; IDK

Isn't it best if you just fire the people who are being so difficult? Obviously this is easier said than done but, god, if they're being really difficult the only solution, in the end, is to remove them from HxL/Events/whatever.

It would solve the problem I guess but you're right, it is easier said than done. A lot easier. Getting complaints is well and good but from experience, without screenshots, you haven't got anything to go by or to back up the dismissal because they'll just appeal the firing and since there's no proof, they'll be let back.

The managers know who's causing the problems and in a lot of cases it can be fixed but obviously not all. If they can't be fixed and firing is the only way, the need people to screen shot the proof and send it into them.

[Matt]

Even when I first joined Habbox a few years ago there were stupid petty arguments that would go on between staff. However if it's affecting the way the fansite community is operating (not advertising the crutial departments) then yeah I think management need to step in seeing as it's Habbox's reputation at stake. It's the job of HxL Dj's to advertise events because that's what they do isn't it? If they refuse to do that because they don't like the EO thats hosting then they need to grow up.

[AgnesIO]

Easier said that done?

Guys this is a habbo fansite, not like they can bring you to court or sue over it :l

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[Phil]

Easier said that done?

Guys this is a habbo fansite, not like they can bring you to court or sue over it :l

Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

No but it's not going to look very good on Habbox for dismissing staff left right and centre?

[Foregetfuhl]

Even when I first joined Habbox a few years ago there were stupid petty arguments that would go on between staff. However if it's affecting the way the fansite community is operating (not advertising the crutial departments) then yeah I think management need to step in seeing as it's Habbox's reputation at stake. It's the job of HxL Dj's to advertise events because that's what they do isn't it? If they refuse to do that because they don't like the EO thats hosting then they need to grow up.

DJs aren't there to just advertise events. To be quite frank DJs to advertise events, I think the issue is the lack of advertising the radio in HxHD and in events. We literally throw advertisement for events down the listeners ear holes but I hardly ever go into the community rooms and see them doing the same.

[Aiden]

DJs aren't there to just advertise events. To be quite frank DJs to advertise events, I think the issue is the lack of advertising the radio in HxHD and in events. We literally throw advertisement for events down the listeners ear holes but I hardly ever go into the community rooms and see them doing the same.

Is it still part of the handbook to advertise events in HxL? Events and HxHD don't really have a reason to advertise the radio and aren't told too like DJs are... :P Although, you are a manager for a reason, I'm sure you can reason with the other managers lmfao

[Phil]

Is it still part of the handbook to advertise events in HxL? Events and HxHD don't really have a reason to advertise the radio and aren't told too like DJs are... :P Although, you are a manager for a reason, I'm sure you can reason with the other managers lmfao

This isn't the case, everyone should be advertising all aspects of Habbox. It is something we're trying to encourage in events, glad you're aware of it :P

[Aiden]

This isn't the case, everyone should be advertising all aspects of Habbox. It is something we're trying to encourage in events, glad you're aware of it :P

I've never been told to advertise the radio?

[FlyingJesus]

I've never been told to advertise the radio?

I believe events staff are now supposed to be advertising the forum and radio to try bringing people into the whole community rather than just as event players. Haven't seen it done very often though :P

[Martin]

I've never been told to advertise the radio?



Then you have clearly never read the handbook and I suggest you go read it right now.



You should also be advertising the group and encouraging people to visit the official Habbox sites (the use of stickies will help).

[Aiden]

I believe events staff are now supposed to be advertising the forum and radio to try bringing people into the whole community rather than just as event players. Haven't seen it done very often though :P

Really? I must of missed the memo lmfao (I dunno how since I'm online 24/7) but in my events I use the bot to advertise ;) mainly the twitter though

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Then you have clearly never read the handbook and I suggest you go read it right now.

1 line I forgot lol...

and I don't need to read it... 'should' doesn't mean we have 2 lol.

[Martin]

Really? I must of missed the memo lmfao (I dunno how since I'm online 24/7) but in my events I use the bot to advertise ;) mainly the twitter though

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1 line I forgot lol...

and I don't need to read it... 'should' doesn't mean we have 2 lol.

Here's a link for you http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=683935


and you are in a community based department and it should be natural for you to want to promote and help out other departments. Teamwork is the key and thinking otherwise is silly. We do not fend for our own, we help others and its always been that way- its common sense really. You should do it if you want to do well, because if not you would be letting people down.

[Aiden]

Here's a link for you http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=683935


and you are in a community based department and it should be natural for you to want to promote and help out other departments. Teamwork is the key and thinking otherwise is silly. We do not fend for our own, we help others and its always been that way- its common sense really. You should do it if you want to do well, because if not you would be letting people down.

I never said I didn't want to advertise other departments lmfaooooo?
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7559/e055a25b89bd4e088ed2f6f.png
my bots speech atm

[Martin]

I never said I didn't want to advertise other departments lmfaooooo?
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7559/e055a25b89bd4e088ed2f6f.png
my bots speech atm

Then thats good :)

But your argument about 'not knowing you had to advertise' is invalid, and I would like to hope that all staff would be aware that teamwork is very much the key. I will admit it needs vast improvement and this will be worked on, but its very often brought up in reports, and advertising has always been a crucial part of events and the whole purpose of us doing them is to get members of the community intereted in Habbox.

[Aiden]

Then thats good :)

But your argument about 'not knowing you had to advertise' is invalid, and I would like to hope that all staff would be aware that teamwork is very much the key. I will admit it needs vast improvement and this will be worked on, but its very often brought up in reports, and advertising has always been a crucial part of events and the whole purpose of us doing them is to get members of the community intereted in Habbox.

Its probs just me but i honestly havnt seen anything on it lol, ik now tho (y)

[Martin]

Its probs just me but i honestly havnt seen anything on it lol, ik now tho (y)

As I said, its common sense really, its in the handbook and the whole purpose of what we're doing is to attract new members and spread the habbox name on the client, most people have been doing it okay, but it could be enhanced further in all directions. You will see more about it soon though don't worry.

[Chippiewill]

Can I just point out that bots advertising Habbox is pretty ineffective as people will ignore them easily.

[LiquidLuck.]

Can I just point out that bots advertising Habbox is pretty ineffective as people will ignore them easily.

Isn't it better than not having them though? At least some people will read them and might be tempted to use the link.

[Matt]

My Tolerance level with people playing dumb is about to reach it's limit. You need to read the handbook in each department and you should be advertising other departments of Habbox because as an Events Organiser you are more or less the face of habbox when regarding the community and therefore help the fansite by advertising the other "Services" habbox offer.

[Succubus]

All you need to do is introduce a HxL and Events Lesbian Hut *cough* @Maria; ;) ARGH EDIT: WHAT'S YOUR USERNAME @Glonk; @maria; IDK

Isn't it best if you just fire the people who are being so difficult? Obviously this is easier said than done but, god, if they're being really difficult the only solution, in the end, is to remove them from HxL/Events/whatever.
You called? ;)

No I suppose Staff bonding was good for HxHD since it brought everyone together (Haven't read much of the thread so I don't know if that has been brought up) and gave a chance for every one to talk to those they usually don't and what not. But if there really is issues...


Can I just point out that bots advertising Habbox is pretty ineffective as people will ignore them easily.

This 100% they are the most annoying things ever (like it posts every x seconds..) and no one even bothers looking at them lol.

[Chippiewill]

Isn't it better than not having them though? At least some people will read them and might be tempted to use the link.

Certainly. But EOs should be promoting Habbox directly in addition to the bots.

[LiquidLuck.]

Certainly. But EOs should be promoting Habbox directly in addition to the bots.

Yes, of course. And I think this is a big problem with habbox. I see other fansite events promote their own fansite every like 5 minutes or less during their event. In Habbox events, they mainly talk to their friends, etc.