View Full Version : Does Andy Murray deserve a knighthood?
Kardan
08-07-2013, 01:29 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/23225645
The Prime Minister seems to think so, but does he really deserve a knighthood after winning Wimbledon?
Personally, I don't think he does. I'm a great Murray fan, and it's amazing that he won after so many years without a British Champion, but I don't think it merits a knighthood for winning 7 matches in a row... Maybe if he wins many more grand slams...
Thoughts?
Matthew
08-07-2013, 01:43 PM
i don't think it does deserve one.
Maybe if he retains it next year though.
Cerys
08-07-2013, 02:26 PM
Not really, no.. I'd say perhaps he could get one if he wins more, but not for this. ;s
dbgtz
08-07-2013, 03:27 PM
I think Knighthoods should be something to commemorate a remarkable career or doing so therefore if he is to receive one, it should wait until he is retired.
No, nor does he has class for it, hate him.
He need to be a gentleman and have a career of at least like 7 grand slams.
buttons
08-07-2013, 03:58 PM
i think that if he was to get it, it should be for the money he gives to charity rather than his tennis achievements. not entirely sure how you can 'hate' someone like that.
i think that if he was to get it, it should be for the money he gives to charity rather than his tennis achievements. not entirely sure how you can 'hate' someone like that.
I know many people who donated a big sum to charity, not that everyone who does that is a Sir. I agree, this is what makes me respect him, but on the court, he is no smart intelligent gentleman. I'm just a huge fan of tennis, so take the game rather than anything else seriously :P.
Like I said, if he goes on a winning streak in Grand Slams, then sure. But as typical, this sensationalism is way too much.
People who should get knighthoods are heroes, such as soliders. Not sportsmen, as much as I love murray.
lawrawrrr
08-07-2013, 07:59 PM
He hasn't just won Wimbledon though, he has won other tournaments. And he has made sporting history in Britain, people will remember him for the feat he managed yesterday, breaking the 77-year drought when it comes to Men's Wimbledon wins. I think that people who have shaped British history should be considered definitely. To be fair to him though, he has been offered it before, or at least brought up but he doesn't think he deserves it yet, which shows a great deal of integrity I think.
Personally, I'd probably wait until he's world no.1, or if that doesn't look possible in the future, later on in his career.
Empired
08-07-2013, 08:43 PM
People who should get knighthoods are heroes, such as soliders. Not sportsmen, as much as I love murray.
I agree with this. "Congratulations for hitting a ball over a net" or "congratulations for putting your life at risk to save others"? To me, there's quite a big difference. I think what Murray did was great, but it's not worthy of a knighthood!
dbgtz
09-07-2013, 09:47 AM
People who should get knighthoods are heroes, such as soliders. Not sportsmen, as much as I love murray.
Heroes imply they actually save people... Anyway soldiers get their own "rewards". It should be for anyone who has made a significant contribution, which Murray has yet to do.
Soldiers aren't heroes, that's their job.
Gonna get a **** load of red rep for this.
Kardan
09-07-2013, 11:24 AM
Soldiers aren't heroes, that's their job.
Gonna get a **** load of red rep for this.
I agree. Plus they have their own honours anyway.
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He hasn't just won Wimbledon though, he has won other tournaments. And he has made sporting history in Britain, people will remember him for the feat he managed yesterday, breaking the 77-year drought when it comes to Men's Wimbledon wins. I think that people who have shaped British history should be considered definitely. To be fair to him though, he has been offered it before, or at least brought up but he doesn't think he deserves it yet, which shows a great deal of integrity I think.
Personally, I'd probably wait until he's world no.1, or if that doesn't look possible in the future, later on in his career.
He has only won 1 other grand slam, so he's hardly one of the great tennis players of all time, despite being in the top 4 for a while now.
Also number 1 status should not give you a knighthood either. Rory McIlroy has certainly been Number 1 in golf, I'm sure. And technically Lewis Hamilton and Jenson Button are the 'No 1' when they win the World Championship in Formula 1, and they just got an MBE :P
And he's not been offered it, he's just been told that Cameron says he deserves one, and he disagrees :P
Heroes imply they actually save people... Anyway soldiers get their own "rewards". It should be for anyone who has made a significant contribution, which Murray has yet to do.
Are you joking? They do their job on a daily basis to save the lives of the innocent, every role is important.
Soldiers aren't heroes, that's their job.
Gonna get a **** load of red rep for this.
You have to be joking? Fighting for our countries, and actually saving lives doesn't make then heroes?!
I cannot believe peoples attitudes towards soldiers on this forum.
dbgtz
09-07-2013, 06:24 PM
Are you joking? They do their job on a daily basis to save the lives of the innocent, every role is important.
You have to be joking? Fighting for our countries, and actually saving lives doesn't make then heroes?!
I cannot believe peoples attitudes towards soldiers on this forum.
Currently, soldiers do not fight for our country but fight simply for a job. Also, our military has probably killed just as many innocent people as those who actually pose a threat.
Nobody is actually attacking our country.
I'm shocked. Soldiers still fight daily in many ways to protect our country. It's not just a 'job'.
dbgtz
09-07-2013, 06:51 PM
I'm shocked. Soldiers still fight daily in many ways to protect our country. It's not just a 'job'.
If you could tell me how they're currently protecting this country then go ahead.
Ardemax
09-07-2013, 07:06 PM
I'm shocked. Soldiers still fight daily in many ways to protect our country. It's not just a 'job'.
Not every soldier is a "hero", that's the point.
A hero is someone who does something heroic, therefore not every soldier can be one.
He doesnt deserve it for hitting a ball over the net, and I know a lot of people who donate massive sums of money to charity and no-one flutters an eyelid. Its just because hes famous, hence why he gets all the attention. Yeah yeah, hes won a competition and got paid millions of pounds just for advertising rights and stuff alone. He doesn't deserve a knighthood for that.
On the solider discussion, I agree with Adam; to some extent. Yes, they fight for our country and all that stuff. I have a lot of respect for people on the front line, and I have a lot of pride for what they do for the country, but they made the choice to do it. Also not all soliders are heroes, the media makes every solider to be a perfect human fighting for our country, but like every job there are some complete idiots in the army, also a lot of people who use their ranks to draw attention to themselves.
I honestly don't understand why because a solider save one persons life, and because they are fighting in wars that our government is probably instigating they are suddenly given all these merits and admirations. When it comes to that, nurses/doctors and anyone in the medical profession are 100% more deserving of those labels than soldiers. My family know a marine, and he has just been flown to dubai for 3 months. 1st class tickets, expensive hotel and a healthy amount of cash for luxury items (alcohol, cigs, clothes).. such a hero. Obviously there is some people in the armed forces that are genuine heroes, but just because some are they're not all the same.
I'm shocked. Soldiers still fight daily in many ways to protect our country. It's not just a 'job'.
They have a choice.
I'm pro-national service, by the way.
If soldiers do something heroic then sure, they're heroes but doing their job? Nah.
Once soldiers commit to the fight for our country, they don't have a choice. They act as a deterrent and make us feel safe that they can protect us if ever anything happens. It's like the police, they don't always fight crime but their presence in an area often prevents it. Soliders are heroes and risk their lives for us when they need to.
dbgtz
09-07-2013, 09:04 PM
Once soldiers commit to the fight for our country, they don't have a choice. They act as a deterrent and make us feel safe that they can protect us if ever anything happens. It's like the police, they don't always fight crime but their presence in an area often prevents it. Soliders are heroes and risk their lives for us when they need to.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4691979.stm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10693001
Seems it...
Also they're not really committed, it seems like another job having to give notice.
If you’re under 18 when you join, you can leave by giving 14 days’ notice at any time after you’ve been in the Army for 28 days – provided this is within six months from the day you join.
People who are over 18 when they join have to give 14 days’ notice at any time after 28 days’ service to leave within three months after joining. Soldiers who are still doing their basic training can leave with their commanding officer’s permission.
http://www.army.mod.uk/join/25629.aspx
Actually during work, they do have a choice but if they didn't do as told they would be kicked out. Much like if I worked in a shop and didn't serve customers, I would be fired.
I won't reply to any response by this as it is getting off topic.
It's a job like any other, they don't have to be there, they chose to be there, they know what the job entails and they're not heroes unless they do something heroic ie jumping on a grenade.
Back on topic.
No Murray deserves nothing.
AlexJRiley
09-07-2013, 09:43 PM
Not for winning Wimbledon, for who he is as a person when he retires, maybe. But not right now.
Aiden
09-07-2013, 10:06 PM
I don't think so either. He hasn't really done much besides won a sports championship...
Is that a big thing?
Daltron
17-08-2013, 04:44 AM
Maybe after a long career possibly, based on his current career and the GS win, I would say no..
peteyt
23-08-2013, 03:22 PM
No
What about the doctor's saving lives everyday and getting usually no thanks, if anything usually cuts.
I already think sports people are paid far much than they should but to knight them on top of that it's just a bit silly in my mind. Not saying it's not good he's won, it's just not the top of the worlds greatest achievements
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