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scottish
08-03-2014, 01:58 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26492748

Flight from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing with 239 people on board has disappeared.

Lost contact at 6:40PM GMT

sex
08-03-2014, 02:05 AM
maybe they just ran out of power

Shockwave.2CC
08-03-2014, 02:48 AM
oo Spooky

xxMATTGxx
08-03-2014, 03:37 AM
Oh god, this not good news at all. This reminds me of the Air France 447 flight that went missing back in 2009. Hopefully they will be able to find it soon and start looking into it what the hell happened.

Eric
08-03-2014, 03:49 AM
heard it on the radio, hope they're safe :(

Matt
08-03-2014, 03:51 AM
It's been all over the news this morning. The news channel for WA posted 'SEVEN Australians and two New Zealanders are among 239 people on board missing Malaysia Airlines flight.' and there's been regular updates on the tv about it. Not looking good D: Hopefully they'll be able to find it.

Drew
08-03-2014, 04:50 AM
Having travelled with Malaysia Airlines before, this is quite scary for me. Hope they find the plane soon :(

Eric
08-03-2014, 05:21 AM
MAS Flight crashed

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2014/03/08/mas-flight-crashed-says-viet-navy/


Malaysia, Vietnam Launch Search For Missing Beijing-bound MAS Plane
Malaysia Airlines Group CEO Ahmad Jauhari Yahya today dismissed speculation that a Beijing-bound Malaysia Airlines flight that went missing had landed in Nanming, China

http://bit.ly/1ggemRJ

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hate people who blame malaysia and the airline for this, ignorant *****

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China has dispatched two maritime rescue ships to the South China Sea to help in rescue work for a missing Malaysia Airlines aircraft, state television reported on Saturday on one of its official microblogs.



http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014/03/08/Missing-flight-China-sends-two-ships/

xxMATTGxx
08-03-2014, 08:43 AM
No one should be blaming anyone until we have all the answers

-Moniquee.
08-03-2014, 09:40 AM
Oh dear, hope everyone is safe. Scary stuff :(

buttons
08-03-2014, 10:51 AM
doesn't look good
its been missing since 17:30 gmt I think?
keepin up to date here http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/malaysia-airlines-plane-crash-live-3219331
still nothing


Eric's post says it crashed but apparently that guys words were mixed?

Kardan
08-03-2014, 11:10 AM
Well, it must have crashed - no chance it's still flying, and if it landed somewhere, surely someone would have been able to contact someone by now. The question really is how many people have survived - it could have ditched safely right? Although you wouldn't expect that from a complete loss of contact? I think I'll shut up and let other people on here discuss, we do have a lot of plane-orientated people on here :P

Also, I was just thinking - the Malaysian GP is in Kuala Lumpur and the Chinese GP is in Beijing - you think the F1 personnel would have took this flight since the two grand prix are only a week away from each other? Scary if this happened a few weeks later...

GommeInc
08-03-2014, 11:12 AM
Oh god, this not good news at all. This reminds me of the Air France 447 flight that went missing back in 2009. Hopefully they will be able to find it soon and start looking into it what the hell happened.
It's quite a small area to search compared to the Air France flight from what the media seem to be suggesting (whole of the Atlantic vs. South China Sea), but it's strange how there is a lot of urgency being made about it but not as much action as there probably should be - or at least not from where I'm sitting, they seem to be keeping it quiet other than showing airport cancellations. Is it assumed it has now crashed or is there a chance it landed elsewhere with no records suggesting what the plane is and how it got there, if that is even possible? It seems strange that they've not checked the flight path of the plane or if they have that it's not where it should be.

Very peculiar situation.

xxMATTGxx
08-03-2014, 11:36 AM
It's quite a small area to search compared to the Air France flight from what the media seem to be suggesting (whole of the Atlantic vs. South China Sea), but it's strange how there is a lot of urgency being made about it but not as much action as there probably should be - or at least not from where I'm sitting, they seem to be keeping it quiet other than showing airport cancellations. Is it assumed it has now crashed or is there a chance it landed elsewhere with no records suggesting what the plane is and how it got there, if that is even possible? It seems strange that they've not checked the flight path of the plane or if they have that it's not where it should be.

Very peculiar situation.

I don't believe there is a chance of it landing else where and it has most likely crashed into the sea as the last reported position was over the South China Sea.

GommeInc
08-03-2014, 11:48 AM
I don't believe there is a chance of it landing else where and it has most likely crashed into the sea as the last reported position was over the South China Sea.
It's very peculiar it's not been found but I don't know much of the area to comment other than the size of it. Isn't it rare for this type of plane to have faults, particularly for this airline? I read that there hasn't been a problem for over a decade which just adds to how serious this is - particularly since Boeing have been having many problems lately (I heard US Dreamliners may have to be checked again for hairline cracks to the wings).

Kardan
08-03-2014, 11:49 AM
Well, it must have crashed - no chance it's still flying, and if it landed somewhere, surely someone would have been able to contact someone by now. The question really is how many people have survived - it could have ditched safely right? Although you wouldn't expect that from a complete loss of contact? I think I'll shut up and let other people on here discuss, we do have a lot of plane-orientated people on here :P

Also, I was just thinking - the Malaysian GP is in Kuala Lumpur and the Chinese GP is in Beijing - you think the F1 personnel would have took this flight since the two grand prix are only a week away from each other? Scary if this happened a few weeks later...

Ignore me, the Chinese GP is in Shanghai.

Jordan
08-03-2014, 11:52 AM
Can't post the report as on phone but sky news have said it's been found in the sea but now looking for survivors. So sad.

http://news.sky.com/story/1222674/malaysia-airlines-plane-crashes-in-vietnam

Eric
08-03-2014, 11:52 AM
Asked whether Malaysia was looking at possible terrorism, Transport Minister Hishammuddin Hussein said the government was “looking at all possibilities.”“The plane lost contact near Ca Mau province airspace as it was preparing to transfer to Ho Chi Minh City air traffic control,” the Vietnamese government said in a statement.
Ca Mau province is in southernmost Vietnam, next to the Cambodian border.
The airline said the plane’s last known position was a point about 150 kilometres north of Malaysia’s eastern coast.
The disappearance triggered a South China Sea search effort involving vessels from several nations with rival maritime claims to the region.
China, which has 153 of its nationals on the missing plane, said it had ordered maritime patrol vessels to begin scouring the area.
Vietnam’s defence ministry launched a rescue mission, the government said, and a Malaysian maritime official said the country had sent several planes and vessels.
The Philippines said it was sending three navy patrol boats and a surveillance plane. Singapore dispatched an air force C130 transporter on a “search and locate mission”.
It was not clear if the nations were cooperating.
Overlapping claims to the South China Sea, a resource-rich region and vital shipping lane, have been a growing source of tensions between China and its neighbours.
http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2014/03/08/missing-mas-triggers-southeast-asia-search/

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The moment it disappears from the Radar. found this on reddit

http://www.flightradar24.com/2014-03-07/17:20/12x/MAS370/2d81a27

xxMATTGxx
08-03-2014, 12:01 PM
It's very peculiar it's not been found but I don't know much of the area to comment other than the size of it. Isn't it rare for this type of plane to have faults, particularly for this airline? I read that there hasn't been a problem for over a decade which just adds to how serious this is - particularly since Boeing have been having many problems lately (I heard US Dreamliners may have to be checked again for hairline cracks to the wings).

The Boeing 777 is one of the safest commercial airliners in the world. It's very rare for this type of plane or any modern airliner to just "crash". From what I have been reading I don't think the weather would have been a factor as it seemed clear skies for most of the area. So the answer to your question yes it is quite rare.

In regards of the Boeing 787 Dreamliners and the cracks in the wings - They are on undelivered aircraft and doesn't affect any of the current fleet that are in service.

-Moniquee.
08-03-2014, 12:57 PM
I just want to know what is happening - prayers are with everyone involved. Hope they are safe

xxMATTGxx
08-03-2014, 01:00 PM
442267265774669824

lemons
08-03-2014, 01:01 PM
scary, hope they find out what has happened soon

Cerys
08-03-2014, 01:04 PM
Ohgod that's awful news.

'A Vietnamese government statement said the slicks, spotted off the southern tip of Vietnam, were each between 6 and 9 miles long (10-15km). It said the slicks were consistent with the kinds that would be left by fuel from a crashed airliner'

Seems like they're getting slowly closer to finding the wreckage (if they haven't already idk)

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GommeInc
08-03-2014, 01:44 PM
442267265774669824
I keep quoting you but mainly because you have some knowledge over this :P

Would this have implications over how the plane crashed if this is what's left? As there's no sign of debris would this mean the plane landed smoothly and sank as a whole? I'd imagine if it came in and broke up at speed by either nose diving there would be a lot of debris, while just oil on the surface suggests it landed (reasonably) smoothly with no break up. That just may be films talking but it seems strange debris would float away on a violent impact only leaving oil.

xxMATTGxx
08-03-2014, 01:50 PM
I keep quoting you but mainly because you have some knowledge over this :P

Would this have implications over how the plane crashed if this is what's left? As there's no sign of debris would this mean the plane landed smoothly and sank as a whole? I'd imagine if it came in and broke up at speed by either nose diving there would be a lot of debris, while just oil on the surface suggests it landed (reasonably) smoothly with no break up. That just may be films talking but it seems strange debris would float away on a violent impact only leaving oil.

It would be mean some sort of broke up has occurred of the aircraft for the oil to come out of it. There was also oil spottings when Air France flight 447 went down as well. I would say it would have been a big impact as at the time of the flight they should have been at cruise level - Still a lot of questions unanswered.

buttons
08-03-2014, 01:53 PM
An extraordinary story has just emerged from Italy in relation to missing flight MH 370.


Louis Maraldi, 37, from Cesena, was named as one of the passengers on board the plane.


However, reports in Italy have confirmed that he was NOT on board and that he had reported his passport stolen last August.


Mr Maraldi's parents have spoken to him in Thailand and he is 'fine', news agency ANSA reports.


The revelation suggests that one of the 227 passengers on board the missing flight was using a stolen passport.






http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/malaysia-airlines-plane-crash-live-3219331#ixzz2vNZYgWsT
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wtf here come the conspiracy theories
HIJACKER
but on the list they gave out it was mostly Asian names
nvm does say Italian Louis maraldi on it is it not just poss there are two Louis maraldis

wixard
08-03-2014, 02:07 PM
i'm so nosey, but looked at the names of the people and found two of their facebooks
they're a young couple aged 18/20 from france :(

really interested to learn what happened

Evanora
08-03-2014, 02:44 PM
reminds me of the tv show lost

Yawn
08-03-2014, 03:00 PM
An extraordinary story has just emerged from Italy in relation to missing flight MH 370.


Louis Maraldi, 37, from Cesena, was named as one of the passengers on board the plane.


However, reports in Italy have confirmed that he was NOT on board and that he had reported his passport stolen last August.


Mr Maraldi's parents have spoken to him in Thailand and he is 'fine', news agency ANSA reports.


The revelation suggests that one of the 227 passengers on board the missing flight was using a stolen passport.






http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/malaysia-airlines-plane-crash-live-3219331#ixzz2vNZYgWsT
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wtf here come the conspiracy theories
HIJACKER
but on the list they gave out it was mostly Asian names
nvm does say Italian Louis maraldi on it is it not just poss there are two Louis maraldis

THIS ESPECIALLY REMINDS ME OF LOST WITH ALL THE TWISTS AND TURNS WITH SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS AND THEIR STORIES OF HOW THEY ENDED UP ON THE FLIGHT WTF

buttons
08-03-2014, 03:24 PM
A SECOND passenger on the flight was using a stolen passport, it has emerged.


Austrian Christan Kozel, aged 30, has been confirmed as safe and well by authorities.


He said his passport was stolen when he visited Thailand two years ago, Austrian newspaper De Standard reports.






http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/malaysia-airlines-plane-crash-live-3219331#ixzz2vNwTpFQg
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is this a joke...

wixard
08-03-2014, 03:26 PM
oh man, just say it was a hijacking

what would have happened?

Meowingtons
08-03-2014, 03:36 PM
A SECOND passenger on the flight was using a stolen passport, it has emerged.


Austrian Christan Kozel, aged 30, has been confirmed as safe and well by authorities.


He said his passport was stolen when he visited Thailand two years ago, Austrian newspaper De Standard reports.






http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/malaysia-airlines-plane-crash-live-3219331#ixzz2vNwTpFQg
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is this a joke...

Starting to look like it was a planned hijacking. =/

wixard
08-03-2014, 03:39 PM
but we have heard nothing, what's the point in hijacking a plane without voicing your agenda/demands

just to crash it into the ocean? it doesn't make any sense

sex
08-03-2014, 03:42 PM
bad hijackers

Meowingtons
08-03-2014, 03:43 PM
but we have heard nothing, what's the point in hijacking a plane without voicing your agenda/demands

just to crash it into the ocean? it doesn't make any sense

Terrorist attack maybe? If it is we will probably get a video from a group we have never heard of before from the middle of the desert claiming there responsible.

But your right If they did hijack it for a ransom or some strange demands we would of heard something by now.

scottish
08-03-2014, 03:44 PM
Surely they would have reported passport as stolen, and it would alert the terminal staff that the passport is stolen? :s

buttons
08-03-2014, 03:46 PM
it just confuses me because the passports stolen are from white people with white names, so it can't be asians as obviously u won't get on a flight if ur passport is of someone of a completely different ethnicity


WHY


HOW WILL WE EVER KNOW

i mean this in a why would 2 nonmalaysian/chinese people be taking down an asian plane
maybe they were Asian idk I'm sure we will find out soon

xxMATTGxx
08-03-2014, 04:04 PM
Passports probably get stolen all the time and it just happens that this flight had two passengers using stolen passports. It could be something related, it might not be. We'll find out for sure once the wreckage or the flight data recorders are found so they can look into what caused it to crash.

scottish
08-03-2014, 04:16 PM
Passports probably get stolen all the time and it just happens that this flight had two passengers using stolen passports. It could be something related, it might not be. We'll find out for sure once the wreckage or the flight data recorders are found so they can look into what caused it to crash.

Exactly, I highly doubt it's related and it's just something for news to report about.

Evanora
08-03-2014, 04:33 PM
it just confuses me because the passports stolen are from white people with white names, so it can't be asians as obviously u won't get on a flight if ur passport is of someone of a completely different ethnicity


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Edited by Calum0812 (Forum Moderator): Please do not try to cause arguments with other members.

buttons
08-03-2014, 04:39 PM
*REMOVED*
yes r u serious, only asians are muslim!!! only asian muslims are capable of being terrorists!!111

no but really i know you're trying to be a troll but if u did not understand what i was saying then you are actually stupid, i was wonderin why would two white people wish to carry out a terrorist attack on the chinese, not that they aren't capable of it

Evanora
08-03-2014, 04:43 PM
yes r u serious, only asians are muslim!!! only asian muslims are capable of being terrorists!!111

no but really i know you're trying to be a troll but if u did not understand what i was saying then you are actually stupid, i was wonderin why would two white people wish to carry out a terrorist attack on the chinese, not that they aren't capable of it

*REMOVED*
there are lots of reasons why a white person might want to carry out a terrorist attack on chinese ppl

Edited by Calum0812 (Forum Moderator): Please don't be rude to other forum members.

buttons
08-03-2014, 04:52 PM
I think u have misinterpret what im saying
i would like to know reasons because I dunno the politics or history between white vs chinese
if u think I'm narrow minded or a defender against white people u couldn't be more wrong lol

idk how to write my post without it being misinterpreted
i do not think Asians r terrorists
All am wonderin is why have white people taken down an Asian plane (as I assumed it was terrorist attack by those who stolen the passports and are therefore white because the passports are of white people)? Nowhere in my post says, why white people, terrosits are only asian
so if u could answer my question as to possible reasons that would be nice

Calum0812
08-03-2014, 05:00 PM
If it just disappeared from radar, my thoughts are is that it had a collision or some form of explosion. A collision with the terrain is unlikely so high up and if it was with another aircraft it would've been reported. Explosive decompression ripped the whole aircraft apart maybe?

If it had stalled, it wouldn't have disappeared from radar, it would've stayed as a target descending. If it had lost power, I believe it would've shown as just a little blip, even without transponder.

I'm all one for hope but judging by the looks of it, survivors are unlikely imo.

xxMATTGxx
08-03-2014, 05:03 PM
If it just disappeared from radar, my thoughts are is that it had a collision or some form of explosion. A collision with the terrain is unlikely so high up and if it was with another aircraft it would've been reported. Explosive decompression ripped the whole aircraft apart maybe?

If it had stalled, it wouldn't have disappeared from radar, it would've stayed as a target descending. If it had lost power, I believe it would've shown as just a little blip, even without transponder.

I'm all one for hope but judging by the looks of it, survivors are unlikely imo.

Also the fact that the airline or Boeing themselves have not announced they have received any alerts of systems going wrong. If you look at the Air France flight 447 then Airbus I believe received a number of alerts with systems failing etc.

Calum0812
08-03-2014, 05:07 PM
Also the fact that the airline or Boeing themselves have not announced they have received any alerts of systems going wrong. If you look at the Air France flight 447 then Airbus I believe received a number of alerts with systems failing etc.
Exactly. The idea of a terrorist attack is somewhat silly imo because it would've shown up on radar as a decent if they'd have stormed the flight deck and just pushed down on the control column, if they'd have turned off the transponder they would've still saw them.

A stolen passport is a clue but not one that I think will come to any light in this incident.

Evanora
08-03-2014, 05:16 PM
I think u have misinterpret what im saying
i would like to know reasons because I dunno the politics or history between white vs chinese
if u think I'm narrow minded or a defender against white people u couldn't be more wrong lol


all it takes is a few people with radical ideas (maybe they hate chinese ppl because they take jobs?? maybe they just think chinese people are impure??) to start a terrorist movement
not everything has to do with history and politics

xxMATTGxx
08-03-2014, 05:29 PM
Interesting, it looks like the airline has decided to use the same callsign for today's flight: http://www.flightradar24.com/MAS370/2d9dd5b

They normally change the callsign when something like this happens, unless it's a data glitch or they were unable to change it in time.

Yawn
08-03-2014, 06:26 PM
calum leave her be wtf
u gone on a needless rampage

Edited by e5 (Forum Super Moderator) - Please don't post off-topic, thanks!

lemons
08-03-2014, 06:27 PM
Hmm this whole situation is very suspicious and I don't believe it was a coincidence that 2 people had fake passports


off topic Calum0812; why did you delete Evanora; 's posts? They were constructive and weren't causing arguments...

Evanora
08-03-2014, 06:28 PM
yes r u serious, only asians are muslim!!! only asian muslims are capable of being terrorists!!111

no but really i know you're trying to be a troll but if u did not understand what i was saying then you are actually stupid, i was wonderin why would two white people wish to carry out a terrorist attack on the chinese, not that they aren't capable of it
Calum0812; going to infract her for saying that??

on topic this is really sad :( X

buttons
08-03-2014, 06:37 PM
yeah i didnt report btw people should be allowed to call someone narrow minded :S it's not really an insult it's a description lol

n still not much update other than it's gonna take like 24 hrs to get boats out to the spill?
the mirror took he opportunity to post about other disappearing planes tho http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-worlds-3220716 that's what am gna be doin instead of work then

lemons
08-03-2014, 07:34 PM
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/73455000/jpg/_73455010_73455009.jpg

Vietnam's air force has spotted two possible oil slicks 190km ( 118 miles) from Malaysia, but there is no confirmation they are connected with the plane's disappearance

Woutou
08-03-2014, 10:40 PM
I heard that they got a signal from it.. for a couple seconds.

lemons
08-03-2014, 10:46 PM
I heard that they got a signal from it.. for a couple seconds.

where did you hear this...

Woutou
08-03-2014, 11:02 PM
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/national_world&id=9458786

xxMATTGxx
08-03-2014, 11:07 PM
Sepang, 9 March 2014: Malaysia Airlines humbly asks all Malaysians and people around the world to pray for flight MH370.

It has been more than 24 hours since we last heard from MH370 at 1.30 am. The search and rescue team is yet to determine the whereabouts of the Boeing 777-200 aircraft.

An international search and rescue mission from Malaysia, Singapore and Vietnam was mobilized this morning. At this stage, they have failed to find evidence of any wreckage. The sea mission will continue overnight while the air mission will recommence at daylight.

We are dispatching all information as and when we receive it. The situation in Beijing is also being monitored closely. As many families of passengers are in China, we have deployed our “Go Team” to Beijing with a team of caregivers and volunteers to assist the family members of the passengers.

Immediate families of passengers are advised to gather at Kuala Lumpur International Airport. Travel arrangements and expenses will be borne by Malaysia Airlines. Once, the whereabouts of the aircraft is determined, Malaysia Airlines will fly members of the family to the location.

Our sole priority now is to provide all assistance to the families of the passengers and our staff. We are also working closely with the concerned authorities in the search and rescue operation

The families may contact +603 7884 1234.

For media queries, kindly contact +603 8777 5698/ +603 8787 1276.

There will be a press conference at Sama Sama Hotel at 9.00 am tomorrow by DCA.

http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/site/dark-site.html

j0rd
09-03-2014, 04:40 AM
Being reported that there was actually 4 stolen passports onboard :(

Drew
09-03-2014, 06:42 AM
Now they're saying it might have turned back before disappearing.


KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia -- Malaysia's air force chief says that military radar indicated the missing Boeing 777 jet may have turned back, but declined to give further details on how far the plane may have veered off course.

Rodzali Daud told a press conference Sunday that "there is a possible indication that the aircraft made a turnback," adding that authorities were "trying to make sense of that.

Malaysia Airlines Chief Executive Ahmad Jauhari Yahya said the pilot is supposed to inform the airline and traffic control authorities if he does return, but that officials had received no such distress call.

The plane vanished from screens early Saturday morning en route to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur with 239 people on board.
Source: http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/world_news&id=9459137

Matt
09-03-2014, 07:02 AM
UPDATE: Malaysia's Transport Minister says counter-terrorism units have been activated as the search for the missing Malaysia Airlines plane continues.

Officials are now investigating the identities of four passengers on missing flight MH370 and the FBI is sending specialists to Kuala Lumpur to assist with the investigation:

FBI is now involved. It's really not looking good. Especially with the 4 people they're interested in, instead of the 2


This is the start of an article posted this morning.


ANOTHER pilot who was flying ahead of the missing Malaysia Airlines plane has revealed he made contact with aircraft minutes after he was asked to do so by Vietnamese air traffic control. The captain, who requested to remain anonymous, told Malaysian media outlets his plane, which was bound for Narita, Japan, was in Vietnamese airspace when he was asked to contact the pilot flying the missing plane.


In using his plane’s emergency frequency, he was asked to try and establish its position after authorities failed to make contact.
“We managed to establish contact with MH370 just after 1.30am and asked them if they have transferred into Vietnamese airspace,” he told the New Straits Times (http://www.nst.com.my/nation/general/pilot-i-established-contact-with-plane-1.503464?cache=03%2F7.247954%2F7.266429%2F7.330034 %2F7.425366%2F7.502513%2F7.502513%2F7.502513%2F7.5 02513%2F7.576448%2F7.576448).
“The voice on the other side could have been either Captain Zaharie or Fariq, but I was sure it was the co-pilot.
“There were a lot of interference... static... but I heard mumbling from the other end.
“That was the last time we heard from them, as we lost the connection,” he said.”





http://www.perthnow.com.au/travel/travel-news/malaysia-airlines-plane-missing-another-pilot-made-contact-oil-slicks-spotted-australians-on-board-amid-terrorism-fears/story-fniztvnf-1226848860442

xxMATTGxx
09-03-2014, 07:20 AM
FBI is now involved. It's really not looking good. Especially with the 4 people they're interested in, instead of the 2


This is the start of an article posted this morning.




http://www.perthnow.com.au/travel/travel-news/malaysia-airlines-plane-missing-another-pilot-made-contact-oil-slicks-spotted-australians-on-board-amid-terrorism-fears/story-fniztvnf-1226848860442

The last quote of the article turns out not to be the case and that no aircraft came in contact with the flight. As mentioned in the following tweet:

442504902829686784

Matt
09-03-2014, 07:22 AM
The last quote of the article turns out not to be the case and that no aircraft came in contact with the flight. As mentioned in the following tweet:

442504902829686784

Why would someone come out and say they had made contact when they hadn't?!

Liva
09-03-2014, 08:50 AM
This is why I hate flying.

xxMATTGxx
09-03-2014, 08:56 AM
Why would someone come out and say they had made contact when they hadn't?!

I don't know but there is a lot of rumors at the moment rather than facts.


This is why I hate flying.

Flying is still one of the safest ways to travel. Probably more safe than driving.

wixard
09-03-2014, 09:16 AM
i was out last night so hadn't been following since about 6pm, think i'm up to date now

from what i've gathered, they've confirmed that the two stolen passports were flying together and had the same connecting flight, the FBI are now involved (due to american citizens being on board yada yada), no wreckage found as of yet

i'd like to take this shameful opportunity to encourage the guests who read this thread and other threads in current affairs to sign up to the forum to engage in discussion with us

buttons
09-03-2014, 12:02 PM
i was out last night so hadn't been following since about 6pm, think i'm up to date now

from what i've gathered, they've confirmed that the two stolen passports were flying together and had the same connecting flight, the FBI are now involved (due to american citizens being on board yada yada), no wreckage found as of yet

i'd like to take this shameful opportunity to encourage the guests who read this thread and other threads in current affairs to sign up to the forum to engage in discussion with us
says they booked tickets together, both going to amsterdam then one is going to Copenhagen, the other to Frankfurt

other updates

10:25 am
Questions are now being raised about a Chinese passenger who was on the flight.


Chinese authorities say the passport number of missing passenger Zhao Qiwei - in fact, matches the passport of a man whose surname is Yu.


He is said to be alive and well in the Fujian Province.


According to Yu, he has never lost his passport, nor has he ever used it since it was issued in 2007.


and

The Italian whose stolen passport was used by a passenger on board flight MH370 has been tracked down by a newspaper in Phuket, Thailand.


Luigi Maraldi, 37, says he lost it while on holiday "during a deal that went wrong at a motorcycle rent shop".


It is believed he was asked to leave his passport as 'collateral' for renting a bike, but when he went to reclaim it the woman who ran the shop said she already given someone else claiming to be "Mr Maraldi's husband".


He later had to get home to Italy on a temporary travel document.






although im questioning everything because it's all being denied after a while, definitely hiding something

xxMATTGxx
09-03-2014, 12:17 PM
If they went to a EU country then they would have probably picked up the fake passport but I don't believe they ever ended up in Amsterdam in the end - Maybe.

Does anyone know if their is a global lost passport database or does each country have it's own? I assume the EU would share one maybe?

xxMATTGxx
09-03-2014, 12:57 PM
Sky News latest in regards of the passports:

442643633851105281

442645008018333697

Inseriousity.
09-03-2014, 01:22 PM
If there was no hijacking, you'd stole a passport, talk about sod's law that you go to all that trouble then your plane with odds of one in 11 million or something like that ends up being the plane you're on.

wixard
09-03-2014, 01:28 PM
just saw this tweet

https://twitter.com/wsjbreakingnews/status/442651408924696576

assuming it's not referring to the yellow object that was dismissed earlier

buttons
09-03-2014, 01:31 PM
1:27 pm
A Vietnamese search plane has found fragments suspected to belong to the missing passenger jet, the Wall Street Journal is reporting.


1:24 pm


This picture reveals the possible debris which investigators are searching for in the South China Sea.

http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article3223163.ece/BINARY/6aca1bebjw1ee97m3krz1j20xc18gtdf.jpg


According to the South China Morning Post, it was taken by a passenger on board another flight landing in Kuala Lumpur.


He spotted the yellow dots in the sea as the plane started its descent and posted them online.






http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-live-3219331#ixzz2vTKHJhec
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xxMATTGxx
09-03-2014, 01:36 PM
1:27 pm
A Vietnamese search plane has found fragments suspected to belong to the missing passenger jet, the Wall Street Journal is reporting.


1:24 pm


This picture reveals the possible debris which investigators are searching for in the South China Sea.

http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article3223163.ece/BINARY/6aca1bebjw1ee97m3krz1j20xc18gtdf.jpg


According to the South China Morning Post, it was taken by a passenger on board another flight landing in Kuala Lumpur.


He spotted the yellow dots in the sea as the plane started its descent and posted them online.






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From what I have been reading that photo is most likely lights over ground rather than broken up parts form an airliner. I think someone also confirmed that's what you see when you over that specific part of the world as well during the night/early morning.

buttons
09-03-2014, 01:38 PM
yea it doesn't look like a plane lol and im sure others especially pilot would have spotted that long before
id have been terrified to get on a plane there after this

xxMATTGxx
09-03-2014, 01:40 PM
yea it doesn't look like a plane lol and im sure others especially pilot would have spotted that long before
id have been terrified to get on a plane there after this

Yeah, here's the post for what I have read in regards of photo if anyone is interested:


This is NOT a pic of the debris. I fly HKG-SIN twice every week on UA and I have seen this. This pic was taken at night. They're actually flower plantations in Vietnam. I took a few pics a couple of weeks back to make a nice instagram pic, but it turned out too blurry. I can guarantee from my own personal experience, that this pic is not of debris but rather of the very irregular shape of flower farms in Vietnam.

Interpol has released a statement about the stolen passports if anyone wants to give it a read:

http://www.interpol.int/News-and-media/News/2014/N2014-038

wixard
09-03-2014, 02:18 PM
surprised neither of you have posted in awhile! @xxMATTGxx (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=1020); @buttons (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=42203);

"The first major breakthrough appears to have been made after a Vietnamese search team found what they believe is part of a door and an aeroplane tail.

The suspected fragments have been located around 50 miles from southwest of Tho Chu Island, according to the Wall Street Journal."


taken from the mirror

buttons
09-03-2014, 02:22 PM
yes someone took pic

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BiSevV6CYAAXXLl.jpg

only keeping up to date on mirror live feed (auto refresh lol) so idk if this has already been debunked or what

Eric
09-03-2014, 02:29 PM
Missing MAS flight: Debris near Tho Chu Island not from MH370, says DCA

http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014/03/09/missing-mas-flight-dca-debris-not-plane/

xxMATTGxx
09-03-2014, 02:33 PM
It's getting a bit confusing which debris they are actually going on about due some of it has been reported then already denied.

-:Undertaker:-
09-03-2014, 03:36 PM
Absolutely awful.

I've noticed it always seems to be long-haul flights that are the ones which tend to crash?

Calum0812
09-03-2014, 03:43 PM
Absolutely awful.

I've noticed it always seems to be long-haul flights that are the ones which tend to crash?
Generally because they have the most people affected.

Read more about recent incidents (and old ones too) here: http://www.avherald.com/

Chippiewill
09-03-2014, 03:52 PM
I've noticed it always seems to be long-haul flights that are the ones which tend to crash?

It means that they're flying over water so have difficulty landing in the event of an emergency.

xxMATTGxx
10-03-2014, 07:06 AM
Turns out the debris they did find so far isn't from the actual aircraft at all.

442886167025815552

buttons
10-03-2014, 07:55 AM
Malaysia’s state news agency quoted Home Minister Ahmad Zahid Hamidi as saying the two passengers using the stolen European passports were of Asian appearance, and criticising border officials who let them through.


"I am still perturbed," he said.


"Can't these immigration officials think?


"Italian and Austrian (passport holders) but with Asian faces."






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IS THERE SECURITY REALLY THAT BAD
surprised there's no american type "the government is involved" conspiracy yet
but really now everything is fishy idk i thought they'd have located it by now
do u think it's possible they could have changed the pics in the passports to themselves
which would be really dumb as they'd still have english type names as well as being born in the countries yet most likely not speak a word of english
i don't even know if i believe this anymore

Matt
10-03-2014, 08:13 AM
There's so many conspiracy theories it's unreal. One minute it's terrorists, then there was fault in the wing and that the plane exploded in mid air & then disintegrated because of high altitude and then some guy this morning brought up the idea that if the terrorists did take over the plane, they could have flown it somewhere else and landed it?!!

Oh and the reports of debris that keep coming up are really misleading :@ They say they find something, then turn around a few hours later saying that it's too difficult to prove if that is actually from the missing plane or not?!

I kinda wish that the plane was hijacked and they'd ask for a ransom because it's so sad thinking they all lost their lives. That way there could still be hope :(

karter
10-03-2014, 09:22 AM
if it was a hijacking people would've surely contacted someone?? plus no demand from terrorists or any terrorist organization taking responsibility for this so it doesn't make sense....

Kardan
10-03-2014, 09:33 AM
If it was a hijacking how did they disable everything? (Like the signals the plane gives out).

I still think it crashed into the sea.

buttons
10-03-2014, 09:42 AM
What could be an important update - there are reports a Malaysian police chief has said one of the stolen passport users on board MH370 has been identified.


Interpol confirmed on Sunday at least two passengers used stolen passports to get on the slight, and was checking whether others aboard had used false identity documents.


AFP: Malaysia police chief says one of the stolen passport users on missing Malaysia Airlines plane has been identified


— Sky News Newsdesk (@SkyNewsBreak) March 10, 2014




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if it was terrorist could have always gone wrong and theycrashed it by mistake, the plane did a back turn so could have tried take it back then make their demands
or somethig happened and they're trying to blame passengers
but yea now just thinking it was a faulty crash

wixard
10-03-2014, 10:28 AM
just woke up, any updates on the debris they were heading towards?
@buttons (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=42203); oh yeah it's 100% likely they put their own pictures on the passport, the way it works it's not being scanned through any machine. the only time they would have shown the passport is probably to one of the cabin crew before boarding the plane, and POSSIBLY before security

also the five that checked in for the flight but didn't board the plane. what were they doing in the airport? that's some final destination **** right there

buttons
10-03-2014, 11:34 AM
that's crazy, says their luggage was taken off the aircraft, did they suddenly change their minds just before take off... :S

xxMATTGxx
10-03-2014, 11:42 AM
5 or so people not turning up their flight is somewhat normal. Their luggage should have been taken off and I think it was announced somewhere that it was. This is done for security reasons etc etc

It could be a number of reasons, they were delayed on a connecting flight, traffic or whatever. Happens quite a lot :P

scottish
10-03-2014, 11:59 AM
It's 99.999999999999% not a hijacking or any terrorist attack, they couldn't just out of the blue disable everything and disappear lol, and if they did crash surely radar would detect that its dropped well below the cruising height.

Interesting to find out what really happened though

wixard
10-03-2014, 12:03 PM
It's 99.999999999999% not a hijacking or any terrorist attack, they couldn't just out of the blue disable everything and disappear lol, and if they did crash surely radar would detect that its dropped well below the cruising height.

Interesting to find out what really happened though

that's the exact same as it crashing into the sea due to a mechanical error though, which so far is a plausible explanation

i don't think anyone is in the position to rule out anything just yet, be it a hijacking, mechanical error, pilot error, explosion or disintegration

buttons
10-03-2014, 12:33 PM
well apparently the males aren't asian looking and



12:22 pm


e's asked by reporters what the men travelling on stolen passports do look like - he replies that they look like Italian footballer Mario Balotelli.

Asked if they are black, he replies: "Yes," but says he does "not want to
dwell" on the question.







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lmfaooo ok basically anything that's said is contradicted the next day, so we can't take anything that's said as truth. how will we ever know the truth ugh
no idea who theyre referin to as he btw

wixard
10-03-2014, 12:52 PM
apparently this malaysian official is jokes

http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2012/07/05/balotelli1_custom-1219aa48496592311dd95ca20deaa338cca2e69d-s6-c30.jpg

also going from the reddit timeline at the moment, it looks like the two stolen passports aren't being treated as suspicious

Benjaporn Krutnait, owner of the Grand Horizon travel agency in Pattaya, Thailand, said the Iranian, a long-term business contact who she knew only as “Mr Ali”, first asked her to book cheap tickets to Europe for the two men on March 1. Ms Benjaporn initially reserved one of the men on a Qatar Airways flight and the other on Etihad.
But the tickets expired when Ms Benjaporn did not hear back from Mr Ali. When he contacted her again on Thursday, she rebooked the men on the Malaysia Airlines flight through Beijing because it was the cheapest available. Ms Benjaporn booked the tickets through China Southern Airlines via a code share arrangement.
A friend of Mr Ali paid Ms Benjaporn cash for the tickets, she said, adding that it was quite common for people to book tickets in Pattaya through middle men such as Mr Ali, who then take a commission.

xxMATTGxx
10-03-2014, 01:06 PM
If it was a hijacking how did they disable everything? (Like the signals the plane gives out).

I still think it crashed into the sea.

Turn off the transponder, maybe a cut a few circuit breakers and there you go. Then only certain radars would see it (military radars rather than maybe your normal ATC radars) if they were tracking it.

- - - Updated - - -


It's 99.999999999999% not a hijacking or any terrorist attack, they couldn't just out of the blue disable everything and disappear lol, and if they did crash surely radar would detect that its dropped well below the cruising height.

Interesting to find out what really happened though

Could be a bomb of some sort. In not saying it is though - something caused it crash wheather was that mechanical/suicide/terrorism

scottish
10-03-2014, 01:14 PM
If there was a bomb though it would just disintegrate the plane, killing everything instantly?

Is luggage sections typically at the front of the plane or back?

If it was an attack that they knew about so had to turn back then surely they would have contacted local ATC and mentioned it, pilots are isolated from the plane as well aren't they (idk rules on them having locked doors), so if there was a terrorist attack they'd have been able to communicate first even if it was urgently.

Guess we'll see soon, if we do..

xxMATTGxx
10-03-2014, 01:16 PM
If there was a bomb though it would just disintegrate the plane, killing everything instantly?

Is luggage sections typically at the front of the plane or back?

If it was an attack that they knew about so had to turn back then surely they would have contacted local ATC and mentioned it, pilots are isolated from the plane as well aren't they (idk rules on them having locked doors), so if there was a terrorist attack they'd have been able to communicate first even if it was urgently.

Guess we'll see soon, if we do..

A bomb would rip the plane apart depending how strong the bomb is and would kill people and also damage the equipment on-board. There is normally cargo doors are the front and back depending on the aircraft type.

In regards of ATC a lot pilots will try and stable the aircraft before communicating to the outside world. But since there was no message then it could have been sudden and had no time to call in a "Mayday" or anything that.

Although I don't want to rule anything out as we aren't sure what the hell happened and we are just coming up with scenarios on what might have happened.


pilots are isolated from the plane as well aren't they (idk rules on them having locked doors)

Since 9/11 cockpit doors have been reinforced and also rules in place. They are locked nearly all the time apart from when they want to go to the toilet or the F/A is bringing them drinks/food.

Hopefully it's not terrorism related though as that causes more trouble.

buttons
10-03-2014, 01:47 PM
apparently this malaysian official is jokes

http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2012/07/05/balotelli1_custom-1219aa48496592311dd95ca20deaa338cca2e69d-s6-c30.jpg

also going from the reddit timeline at the moment, it looks like the two stolen passports aren't being treated as suspicious

Benjaporn Krutnait, owner of the Grand Horizon travel agency in Pattaya, Thailand, said the Iranian, a long-term business contact who she knew only as “Mr Ali”, first asked her to book cheap tickets to Europe for the two men on March 1. Ms Benjaporn initially reserved one of the men on a Qatar Airways flight and the other on Etihad.
But the tickets expired when Ms Benjaporn did not hear back from Mr Ali. When he contacted her again on Thursday, she rebooked the men on the Malaysia Airlines flight through Beijing because it was the cheapest available. Ms Benjaporn booked the tickets through China Southern Airlines via a code share arrangement.
A friend of Mr Ali paid Ms Benjaporn cash for the tickets, she said, adding that it was quite common for people to book tickets in Pattaya through middle men such as Mr Ali, who then take a commission.
im reading the reddit posts now, people there who were meant to pick up others

[–]stuckwaiting 3074 points 2 days ago*
My colleague is on the flight and I was supposed to meet him in Beijing this morning. Feel absolutely sick to my stomach, flew in an hour before him. Probably shouldn't be posting on here now but I don't have anyone to speak to and home feels a long way away.
Edit: Thank you to everyone who took a moment to send a message, it really helped me focus on doing what I could for my company to contact his family etc. I've spoken to my parents and I have my head screwed on a bit more now so we can go back to thinking about the people who have really suffered in this life-changing tragedy.
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[–]llclll 553 points 2 days ago*
My boss went to send his sister to catch this flight yesterday. This morning he calls me on the phone "Today you're on your own at work ok? My sister's flight is missing. GTG wait for news at MAS".
EDIT: My boss insists on working on his part while he's at the waiting hall. I don't have the heart to tell him not to. Maybe he needs something to distract his mind while waiting for the inevitable. I'll pass all your wishes to him. Thank you everyone.
EDIT 2: Here's his story. He's a news writer by the way. http://www.theantdaily.com/news/2014/03/09/have-i-said-farewell-last-time-my-sister

buttons
10-03-2014, 02:03 PM
Apparently this guy missed the flight https://mobile.twitter.com/KaidenDL

reasin this also now http://www.planecrashinfo.com/lastwords.htm

wixard
10-03-2014, 02:56 PM
Apparently this guy missed the flight https://mobile.twitter.com/KaidenDL

reasin this also now http://www.planecrashinfo.com/lastwords.htm


it's so bizarre reading them, because i feel if i was about to plunge into the ocean or anything like that my last words would definitely be something along the lines of 'for **** sake' 'oh ****' or like the guy on surinam airways 'that's it i'm dead'

much respect to the people who call out their loved ones, i'd probably only be thinking of myself

wixard
10-03-2014, 05:56 PM
mirrors reporting debris being found

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-live-3219331

300 miles from where the current search is happening? ehhhh

Mark
10-03-2014, 06:14 PM
It's looking likely that it blew up 26,000 feet up and the debris scattered etc

xxMATTGxx
10-03-2014, 06:22 PM
We'll hear more about the recent report of debris in next couple of hours when it becomes daylight again.

wixard
10-03-2014, 06:24 PM
mirror live feed posted this like 15 minutes ago

A previously unknown group - the Chinese Martyrs’ Brigade – has claimed that it was behind the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370.
An email was sent to various journalists in China, saying: “You kill one of our clan, we will kill 100 of you as payback.”
But officials in Malaysia have said they believe the group's claim could be a hoax.
The email did not explain what had happened to the plane.
Malaysia’s acting transport minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein, said today: “There is no sound or credible grounds to justify their claims."
It is reported that the email could be designed to increase ethnic tensions between Uighurs and Han Chinese in the wake of a knife attack in Kunming on March 1 in which 29 people were killed and more than 100 were injured.


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honestly can't tell you how reliable that is (lol the mirror), but it's interesting even if untrue

xxMATTGxx
10-03-2014, 06:25 PM
It's looking likely that it blew up 26,000 feet up and the debris scattered etc

The last reported position was with the aircraft at FL350 (35,000ft)

Kardan
10-03-2014, 06:28 PM
mirror live feed posted this like 15 minutes ago

A previously unknown group - the Chinese Martyrs’ Brigade – has claimed that it was behind the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370.
An email was sent to various journalists in China, saying: “You kill one of our clan, we will kill 100 of you as payback.”
But officials in Malaysia have said they believe the group's claim could be a hoax.
The email did not explain what had happened to the plane.
Malaysia’s acting transport minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein, said today: “There is no sound or credible grounds to justify their claims."
It is reported that the email could be designed to increase ethnic tensions between Uighurs and Han Chinese in the wake of a knife attack in Kunming on March 1 in which 29 people were killed and more than 100 were injured.


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honestly can't tell you how reliable that is (lol the mirror), but it's interesting even if untrue

So the Chinese got revenge by blowing up a plane with Chinese people on. Right.

Sounds like crap anyway, just sounds like some guy behind a computer trying to cause issues.

And why does the Mirror have a live feed? Seems pointless.

karter
10-03-2014, 06:38 PM
So the Chinese got revenge by blowing up a plane with Chinese people on. Right.

Sounds like crap anyway, just sounds like some guy behind a computer trying to cause issues.

And why does the Mirror have a live feed? Seems pointless.

xinjiang seperatists have carried out attacks on chinese people in the past like the stabbing incident a few days ago, it is highly likely that uighur militants did it if it was a terrorist attack

Kardan
10-03-2014, 06:43 PM
xinjiang seperatists have carried out attacks on chinese people in the past like the stabbing incident a few days ago, it is highly likely that uighur militants did it if it was a terrorist attack

Ah, I read it the other way round (that it was Chinese militants) - your way does make more sense. But then, why would you blow up a plane with mainly Malaysians on? Why not one leaving China?

Anyways, I still think the terrorism link isn't strong enough. I feel people jump up and shout terrorism far too early. Like when that helicopter crashed in Scotland, the police said they had ruled out terrorism. I mean, really? I wonder how this thread would have been different if it was pre-9/11.

xxMATTGxx
10-03-2014, 06:48 PM
Ah, I read it the other way round (that it was Chinese militants) - your way does make more sense. But then, why would you blow up a plane with mainly Malaysians on? Why not one leaving China?

Anyways, I still think the terrorism link isn't strong enough. I feel people jump up and shout terrorism far too early. Like when that helicopter crashed in Scotland, the police said they had ruled out terrorism. I mean, really? I wonder how this thread would have been different if it was pre-9/11.

I guess anyone will speculate terrorism now for anything like this until it has 100% been ruled out. I'm keeping the door open as one of the possibilities but there is so many that it could be.

wixard
10-03-2014, 06:49 PM
Ah, I read it the other way round (that it was Chinese militants) - your way does make more sense. But then, why would you blow up a plane with mainly Malaysians on? Why not one leaving China?

Anyways, I still think the terrorism link isn't strong enough. I feel people jump up and shout terrorism far too early. Like when that helicopter crashed in Scotland, the police said they had ruled out terrorism. I mean, really? I wonder how this thread would have been different if it was pre-9/11.

i feel like most of us posting with an interest in this are leaning more towards disintegration rather than terrorism. as of yet everything is just speculation, no harm in posting different theories when they've yet to be ruled out

Kardan
10-03-2014, 06:56 PM
i feel like most of us posting with an interest in this are leaning more towards disintegration rather than terrorism. as of yet everything is just speculation, no harm in posting different theories when they've yet to be ruled out

When I say people jump up and shout terrorism too fast, I don't mean people on the forum, I just mean media in general :P And at least this time there is a slight hint of something strange (The 2 stolen passports), whereas most of the time the media mentions terrorism, it's just either an accident or human error.

karter
10-03-2014, 07:24 PM
But then, why would you blow up a plane with mainly Malaysians on? Why not one leaving China?


But it has happened in the past though.. like Air India flight 812 was bombed by Canadian Sikh separatists, the attack was targetted at India but the route was from Montreal to London and then New Delhi but they bombed it over the Atlantic, and mostly Canadians died

j0rd
11-03-2014, 12:54 AM
http://naturalguru.co/six-important-facts-youre-told-lost-malaysia-airlines-flight-370/

this is worth a read!

xxMATTGxx
11-03-2014, 01:13 AM
http://naturalguru.co/six-important-facts-youre-told-lost-malaysia-airlines-flight-370/

this is worth a read!

Some of those facts have been well known before this even took place. I wish they got the picture at the op right, wrong bloody aircraft type.

xxMATTGxx
11-03-2014, 04:42 AM
BREAKING: Malaysia Airlines says west coast of country now the focus of search for missing plane.

Tweet: https://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/443240556446355456


If #MH370 is found on the west side of the Malaysian peninsula, the 777 would have had to fly across the country again unnoticed.

Tweet: https://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/443245309607809024

To get an idea of where they are mainly searching now is on the west side of the island:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BiYLRfzCIAAT9XF.jpg

-Moniquee.
11-03-2014, 04:45 AM
Would there be any chance it crashed on land and it just lost it's signal at that spot? xxMATTGxx

xxMATTGxx
11-03-2014, 04:48 AM
Would there be any chance it crashed on land and it just lost it's signal at that spot? xxMATTGxx

It lost it's signal pretty much at it's last known location which was over the sea at the time.

-Moniquee.
11-03-2014, 04:54 AM
But couldn't there be a chance that it got further than it's last known location? If it went down at its last location they would've found it by now.

xxMATTGxx
11-03-2014, 04:59 AM
But couldn't there be a chance that it got further than it's last known location? If it went down at its last location they would've found it by now.

There is a chance the aircraft changed its course and tried heading back to land. But it lost it's signal at it's last known location on normal ATC radar which was over the sea. If that makes sense? Losing signal doesn't mean it just stopped flying there and then. It just couldn't be seen or tracked on the radar of Air Traffic Control.

-Moniquee.
11-03-2014, 04:59 AM
http://m.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/malaysia-airlines-passport-theft-echoes-alqaeda-agents-bomb-attack-20140310-34hwd.html

Resembles a previous Al Qaeda attack.

Eric
11-03-2014, 08:34 AM
http://www.thestar.com.my/~/media/Images/TSOL/Photos-Gallery/Nation/2014/03/11/passport0023a.ashx

Missing MH370: One of the impostors identified as an Iranian teenhttp://bit.ly/1i2nQnq
So far, Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Khalid Abu Bakar said 19-year-old Pouria Nour Mohammad Mehrdad (pic) is not likely to be a terrorist.
Pouria's mother, who was waiting for him in Germany, contacted the authorities when her son did not turn up.



wow much balotelli



and i'm flying to beijing next month from kl on mas lol

wixard
11-03-2014, 09:23 AM
poor guy, he was just trying to get a better life for himself!

anyway, just had a quick read and it seems everything being releases is being contradicted hours later. apparently the 5 people not checking in thing was announced as false, but Jen linked a guy who claims he and his colleague missed the plane?

radar location may also have changed

Eric
11-03-2014, 09:50 AM
why is he using a fake passport to migrate anyway

asked us not to speculate when igp and dca both have contradicting statements

heres a new suspect

http://www.thestar.com.my/~/media/Images/TSOL/Photos-Gallery/Nation/2014/03/11/mh370%20suspectsa.ashx

and heres a bit detailed story

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2014/03/11/suspect-on-missing-plane-is-iranian-no-terrorist-link/

wixard
11-03-2014, 10:33 AM
i thought they were both cleared? why is he a suspect? sorry not clicking link im on my phone

xxMATTGxx
11-03-2014, 10:37 AM
Well they aren't linked to any terrorism groups that they are aware of. I think that's what I have read about them.

Kardan
11-03-2014, 11:21 AM
http://m.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/malaysia-airlines-passport-theft-echoes-alqaeda-agents-bomb-attack-20140310-34hwd.html

Resembles a previous Al Qaeda attack.

To be fair, all that's saying Al Qaeda did an attack where the terrorist had a stolen passport. Well, Al Qaeda also did an attack where they hijacked a plane, but that doesn't make this anything like 9/11.

I still don't get this terrorist theory. Was there this much talk about terrorists when the Air France one back in 2009 crashed?

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why is he using a fake passport to migrate anyway

asked us not to speculate when igp and dca both have contradicting statements

heres a new suspect

http://www.thestar.com.my/~/media/Images/TSOL/Photos-Gallery/Nation/2014/03/11/mh370%20suspectsa.ashx

and heres a bit detailed story

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2014/03/11/suspect-on-missing-plane-is-iranian-no-terrorist-link/

The media really need to stop saying 'This guy is a suspect' - the same sort of stuff happened with the Boston Bombings, and they got it all wrong. (Although admittedly the people they accused of that were still alive, the people they're accusing now died on the plane).

xxMATTGxx
11-03-2014, 11:59 AM
Malaysia military tracked missing plane to west coast: source



(Reuters) - Malaysia's military believes it tracked a missing jetliner by radar over the Strait of Malacca, far from where it last made contact with civilian air traffic control off the country's east coast, a military source told Reuters.

In one of the most baffling mysteries in recent aviation history, a massive search operation for the Malaysia Airlines Boeing 777-200ER, now in its fourth day, has so far found no trace of the aircraft or the 239 passengers and crew.

"It changed course after Kota Bharu and took a lower altitude. It made it into the Malacca Strait," the military official, who has been briefed on investigations, told Reuters.

The Strait of Malacca, one of the world's busiest shipping channels, runs along Malaysia's west coast. The airline said on Saturday that radio and radar contact with Flight MH370 was lost off the east coast Malaysian town of Kota Bharu.

Article: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/11/us-malaysiaairlines-flight-idUSBREA2701720140311

Another article about this: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/malaysian-military-now-reveals-it-tracked-mh370-to-malacca-straits

If that is correct and it is confirmed they did actually track it. Then this raises some serious questions.

j0rd
11-03-2014, 12:41 PM
just as you think it's becoming more clear what actually happened, something gets thrown in and mixes it all up again!

Eric
11-03-2014, 12:47 PM
Was watching cctv now China's deploying satellites to help

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BEIJING: Beijing is deploying as many as 10 satellites in hopes of tracking down Malaysia Airlines flight MH370, state media reported Tuesday, as the search for the vanished aircraft enters its fourth day.


The high-resolution satellites, which are controlled from the Xian Satellite Control Centre in northern China, will be used for navigation, weather monitoring, communications and other aspects of the search-and-rescue effort, the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) Daily said.

http://www.nst.com.my/latest/font-color-red-missing-mh370-font-china-deploys-satellites-in-search-for-malaysia-plane-1.507287

scottish
11-03-2014, 01:23 PM
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-passengers-mobile-phones-074447403.html#1b1KWJE

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2578020/Why-cellphones-missing-Malaysian-Airlines-passengers-ringing-Family-members-claim-loved-ones-smartphones-active.html

If the phones are ringing, surely they can track the signal?

scottish
11-03-2014, 02:37 PM
http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar2014

buttons
11-03-2014, 04:36 PM
so i don't believe it was terrosim anymore, at least not by the 2 Iranians but what exactly would have happened when they went to get the stolen passports, if the passports were for men aged 30-50 years, were the people they got from able to change the birth date too :l

Mr-Trainor
11-03-2014, 06:56 PM
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-passengers-mobile-phones-074447403.html#1b1KWJE

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2578020/Why-cellphones-missing-Malaysian-Airlines-passengers-ringing-Family-members-claim-loved-ones-smartphones-active.html

If the phones are ringing, surely they can track the signal?
I don't have time to find it at the moment, but I read something saying on some phones it'll ring the number even while it's still trying to locate the phone or something similar :P.

Mr-Trainor
11-03-2014, 07:21 PM
I don't have time to find it at the moment, but I read something saying on some phones it'll ring the number even while it's still trying to locate the phone or something similar :P.
Here it is: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2578020/Why-cellphones-missing-Malaysian-Airlines-passengers-ringing-Family-members-claim-loved-ones-smartphones-active.html
"However, some service providers will ring once or twice before the phone goes to voicemail, or cut off. This may explain the reports that claimed phones rang before seeming to hang up."

xxMATTGxx
11-03-2014, 10:53 PM
Yeah phones ringing doesn't actually mean the other phone is not busted or anything. There is a number of factors on why that takes place.

xxMATTGxx
12-03-2014, 07:10 AM
Not many updates over the night apart from this really:


Vietnam said it had halted its air search and scaled back a sea search while it waited for Malaysia to offer more detail.

“We’ve decided to temporarily suspend some search and rescue activities, pending information from Malaysia,” deputy minister of transport Pham Quy Tieu told AFP.

Asked about the claim that the plane had last been detected over the Strait of Malacca - suggesting it had crossed the entire peninsula - he replied: “We’ve asked Malaysian authorities twice, but so far they have not replied to us.

“We informed Malaysia on the day we lost contact with the flight that we noticed the flight turned back west but Malaysia did not respond.”

Malaysia’s air force chief denied telling a local newspaper that the aircraft was last detected at 2.40am on the western coast of the Malay peninsula by a military radar - a detail confirmed to news agencies by at least one unnamed military official.

Matt
12-03-2014, 07:23 AM
What are the Malaysian Government doing? They're being so slow in relaying information?!

karter
12-03-2014, 08:11 AM
Indian Navy has started search around Nicobar Islands and the Andaman Sea but there's no way the plane could've turned back so much to get into Bay of Bengal

lemons
12-03-2014, 09:19 AM
this whole situation has become VERY dodgy and i think more is known than what is being told

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someone throwing water at malaysian officials

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/03/12/article-2578914-1C37174E00000578-449_634x422.jpg

yesterday i was watching their conference thing on sky news and they were joking about and laughing it didn't seem right

Matt
12-03-2014, 09:24 AM
Yeah 3 of my teachers say that they personally think that someone knows more than what they're letting on and that there must be someone that is keeping certain information from everyone else ie. the Malaysian Government.

I even read this about the US military 'cloaking' the plane. Sounds like something from Harry Potter lmao:


This is one touted on Beforeitsnews.com, an "alternative" site big on stuff like UFOs, which reports: (http://beforeitsnews.com/events/2014/03/malaysia-plane-crash-20-all-electric-car-linked-green-tech-passengers-on-board-names-released-2432738.html) "It is conceivable that the Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 plane is “cloaked,” hiding with hi-tech electronic warfare weaponry that exists and is used. In fact, this type of technology is precisely the expertise of [Texas-based company] Freescale, that has 20 employees on board the missing flight”. Again (there's a theme here) it doesn't say why.

So many conspiracies

Eric
12-03-2014, 09:43 AM
What are the Malaysian Government doing? They're being so slow in relaying information?!


this whole situation has become VERY dodgy and i think more is known than what is being told

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someone throwing water at malaysian officials

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/03/12/article-2578914-1C37174E00000578-449_634x422.jpg

yesterday i was watching their conference thing on sky news and they were joking about and laughing it didn't seem right

clearly shows how my country's competency in dealing with situations like this. disorganized crisis management, no coordination and no communication between ministers and officials, weak command centre, clowns with contradicting statements which only lead to more confusion, officials are jokes. not being judgemental and saying they never put in any effort but the effort is just not enough and everything's in disarray

Liva
12-03-2014, 09:58 AM
How can a plane and 200+ people just disappear...

e5
12-03-2014, 10:15 AM
Heard on the news this morning that someone apparently saw a burning object in the sky :/

Eric
12-03-2014, 10:28 AM
http://i.imgur.com/KpkMKmY.jpg

this?

- - - Updated - - -

Meanwhile, Vietnam said it had deployed aircraft to investigate a possible sighting of the plane.
Doan Huu Gia, deputy general director of Vietnam's air traffic management, said: "We received an email from a New Zealander who works on one of the oil rigs off Vung Tau.
"He said he spotted a burning [object] at that location, some 300 km (200 miles) southeast of Vung Tau."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26527390

wixard
12-03-2014, 10:41 AM
http://i.imgur.com/KpkMKmY.jpg

this?

- - - Updated - - -

Meanwhile, Vietnam said it had deployed aircraft to investigate a possible sighting of the plane.
Doan Huu Gia, deputy general director of Vietnam's air traffic management, said: "We received an email from a New Zealander who works on one of the oil rigs off Vung Tau.
"He said he spotted a burning [object] at that location, some 300 km (200 miles) southeast of Vung Tau."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26527390

i'm almost positive that's been dismissed as not being the plane

right, still following but it's not as if there are many updates we can post is there. the only thing we've all not really touched on is the military radar picking up the plane, or what they think is the plane. dunno how long it will be until it's confirmed or denied. going onto day 5, probably a restless time for everyone directly involved

sex
12-03-2014, 11:06 AM
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/malaysias-air-force-chief-denies-saying-mh370-detected-over-malacca-strait

The airforce tracking it has been denied already apparently
soz if posted

xxMATTGxx
12-03-2014, 12:02 PM
http://i.imgur.com/KpkMKmY.jpg

this?

- - - Updated - - -

Meanwhile, Vietnam said it had deployed aircraft to investigate a possible sighting of the plane.
Doan Huu Gia, deputy general director of Vietnam's air traffic management, said: "We received an email from a New Zealander who works on one of the oil rigs off Vung Tau.
"He said he spotted a burning [object] at that location, some 300 km (200 miles) southeast of Vung Tau."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26527390

Yeah people have already said that letter/email is incorrect/fake etc

scottish
12-03-2014, 01:14 PM
Don't see why people fake **** like this, fair enough if they legitimately thought it was the plane but if they're making up stuff for a disaster like this they deserve to be shot

scottish
12-03-2014, 05:55 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26541057

The last communication received from a Malaysia Airlines plane suggests everything was normal on board minutes before it went missing over the South China Sea, Malaysian authorities say.

Flight MH370 replied "All right, roger that" to a radio message from Malaysian air control, authorities said.

Lewis
12-03-2014, 06:43 PM
Someone told me that the phones are still ringing owned by the people on the missing plane. I doubt it's anything, though.

j0rd
12-03-2014, 06:45 PM
Someone told me that the phones are still ringing owned by the people on the missing plane. I doubt it's anything, though.

Read back a few pages, some mobiles will ring even if they are destroyed :P

wixard
12-03-2014, 07:20 PM
late night briefing been announced for family members, 2am their time

must be some new information, bit of a weird time to have a briefing

xxMATTGxx
12-03-2014, 08:42 PM
The latest at the moment is that Chinese satellites have spotted some debris near the end of the ADS-B track. It could be nothing (like the previous cases). I assume we shall find out sometime soon/later.


Late Mar 12th 2014 China's State Administration of Science (SASTIND) reported, they discovered three large objects sized 13x18, 14x19 and 24x22 meters at position N6.7 E105.63 (121nm eastsoutheast of the last known secondary radar position), all three objects within a radius of 20km (11nm) and published the satellite images, taken on Mar 9th 2014 at 11:00 Beijing time (03:00Z), see below. SASTIND stated they are committed to provide further search services to locate flight MH-370.

j0rd
12-03-2014, 09:15 PM
here's the picture of what they think could be debris

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/13/e6a6e2eg.jpg

wixard
12-03-2014, 09:18 PM
if this turns out to be the crash site (which is looking likely) then that oil rig guy was right

xxMATTGxx
12-03-2014, 09:45 PM
Just to add on the Chinese image was taken 2/3 days ago.

lemons
12-03-2014, 09:49 PM
2/3 days ago hmmmmmmm i'm not too sure

xxMATTGxx
12-03-2014, 09:53 PM
2/3 days ago hmmmmmmm i'm not too sure

Not too sure about what?

lemons
12-03-2014, 09:55 PM
Not too sure about what?

that it's the plane

buttons
12-03-2014, 10:07 PM
what bout this
is this same pics?

An IT manager from Chicago discovered this intriguing picture on satellite images.


We reported last night on how thousands of people from around the world were using detailed satellite images uploaded by US firm DigitalGlobe to try and find the aircraft.


One of those who took part was Mike Seberger .


http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article3235524.ece/ALTERNATES/s510b/Missing-Malaysia-Airlines-plane-possible-sighting-3235524.jpg

Missing Malaysia Airlines plane possible sighting

After looking at sections of the map, he found this image.


Speaking to CNN, he said: "At first, I skipped past it, thinking, 'Nah. No way I would find anything THAT quickly,' he said. "But then I kept scrolling back to it and thinking to myself, 'It DOES resemble a plane.'"



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The image spotted by Mike Seberger shows a plane-shaped object under a bank of white cloud in the Gulf of Thailand, an arm of the South China Sea.


42 ships and 39 aircraft from 12 different countries have been drafted in to search for the missing Boeing 777 and the 239 passengers - with no success.


If Mr Seberger’s hunch is correct, he will have solved a mystery that has fascinated the world and baffled experts - all from the comfort of his home.






http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-live-3219331#ixzz2vmy4wWPL
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lemons
12-03-2014, 10:09 PM
http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article3235524.ece/ALTERNATES/s510b/Missing-Malaysia-Airlines-plane-possible-sighting-3235524.jpg

i saw this earlier and it does sound convincing but some ppl said it could be a ship or something or a whale (dnno how likely that is)

buttons
12-03-2014, 10:11 PM
idk i doubt a plane that crashed would be that 'whole' n would it be so easily seen froma satalliete?would it not have sank further down? dunno planes

xxMATTGxx
12-03-2014, 10:18 PM
443873318592987136

lemons
12-03-2014, 10:19 PM
idk i doubt a plane that crashed would be that 'whole' n would it be so easily seen froma satalliete?would it not have sank further down? dunno planes
i read *somewhere* that the sea where they're mainly searching isn't as deep as you would think and a plane would surely be visible

xxMATTGxx
12-03-2014, 10:23 PM
According to a person on another forum and I haven't confirmed this but one of the photos from China the depth of the water is around 45 meters

sex
12-03-2014, 10:34 PM
According to a person on another forum and I haven't confirmed this but one of the photos from China the depth of the water is around 45 meters

Whats that mean

xxMATTGxx
12-03-2014, 10:35 PM
Whats that mean

The distance from the top of the water to the bottom is 45 meters. Does that make more sense? :P

To compare that to something else, the length of a blue whale is around 30 meters.

lemons
12-03-2014, 10:40 PM
The distance from the top of the water to the bottom is 45 meters. Does that make more sense? :P

To compare that to something else, the length of a blue whale is around 30 meters.

how tall would that plane be

xxMATTGxx
12-03-2014, 10:42 PM
how tall would that plane be

For you I have a diagram:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17/msowsun/photo%20stuff/Photo14/777exterior200_300lr.gif~original

lemons
12-03-2014, 10:43 PM
idk what plane is the missing one but either way it would be clearly visible

xxMATTGxx
12-03-2014, 10:44 PM
idk what plane is the missing one but either way it would be clearly visible

It's a 777-200ER so the size would be some what similar to the one on the left. The official sizes according to Boeing is the following:


Wing Span: 199 ft 11 in (60.9 m)
Overall length: 209 ft 1 in (63.7 m)
Tail Height: 60 ft 9 in (18.5 m)
Interior Cabin Width: 19 ft 3 in (5.86 m)
Diameter: 20 ft 4 in (6.19 m)

Even if what they have took a photo is or isn't the plane and if it's on the surface then it will have moved since the photo was taken due to the currents.

sex
12-03-2014, 11:13 PM
yeah i know what it mean i meant is that considered very deep or shallow

xxMATTGxx
12-03-2014, 11:16 PM
yeah i know what it mean i meant is that considered very deep or shallow

I would consider that shallow compared to other parts of the world. An Air France plane crashed into the ocean that was considered to be at the depth of around: 4,700m. So you can see that is a bit of big difference? :P

Stephen
12-03-2014, 11:28 PM
whenever stuff like this happens i have visions of 100 tabs up on matt's comp related to plane structures/mechanics and a flight sim up on his other monitor trying to replicate what may have happened

sex
12-03-2014, 11:30 PM
jeez 4700m make me weak thinking of it

wixard
12-03-2014, 11:30 PM
buttons; that image you posted i'm sure is a boat

xxMATTGxx
12-03-2014, 11:32 PM
whenever stuff like this happens i have visions of 100 tabs up on matt's comp related to plane structures/mechanics and a flight sim up on his other monitor trying to replicate what may have happened

Haha, I do keep a number of websites open at home and in work keeping up-to-date on it all.

xxMATTGxx
13-03-2014, 05:16 AM
Latest:

Morning,

Some interesting information is coming out according to certain sources the WSJ are using. The article is behind a pay wall but basically the following is pretty much said:


U.S. investigators suspect that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 stayed in the air for about four hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, according to two people familiar with the details, raising the possibility that the plane could have flown on for hundreds of additional miles under conditions that remain murky.

Aviation investigators and national security officials believe the plane flew for a total of five hours, based on data automatically downloaded and sent to the ground from the Boeing Co. BA -0.99% 777's engines as part of a routine maintenance and monitoring program.

That raises a host of new questions and possibilities about what happened aboard the widebody jet carrying 239 people, which vanished from civilian air-traffic control radar over the weekend, about one hour into a flight to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur.

Six days after the mysterious disappearance prompted a massive international air and water search that so far hasn't produced any results, the investigation appears to be broadening in scope.

U.S. counterterrorism officials are pursuing the possibility that a pilot or someone else on board the plane may have diverted it toward an undisclosed location after intentionally turning off the jetliner's transponders to avoid radar detection, according to one person tracking the probe.

The investigation remains fluid, and it isn't clear whether investigators have evidence indicating possible terrorism or espionage. So far, U.S. national security officials have said that nothing specifically points toward terrorism, though they haven't ruled it out.

But the huge uncertainty about where the plane was headed, and why it continued flying so long without working transponders, has raised theories among investigators that the aircraft may have been commandeered for a reason that appears unclear to U.S. authorities. Some of those theories have been laid out to national security officials and senior personnel from various U.S. agencies, according to one person familiar with the matter.

Source: http://online.wsj.com/news/article_email/SB10001424052702304914904579434653903086282-lMyQjAxMTA0MDEwMzExNDMyWj

Not sure if the above link will work as it was behind a paywall (meaning you have to pay to read before) but now I can read the whole article.

------------

Now if that turns out to be 100% true then:

That means it could have flown for on for about 2,200nm and that mean it could get as far as the India-Pakistan border. The following image shows where it could be:

443974114596761600

In regards of the Chinese satellite images:


BreakingNews: No plane debris found at spot shown by China's satellite images, Malaysian aviation chief says - @AP

wixard
13-03-2014, 06:31 AM
so the plane flies for another 4 hours, how long is the original flight? id google but im on my phone. just wondering if it was still airborne when they noticed it drop off the radar, how long did it take for them to notice actually?

super interesting update for us following, tragic news for those with friends and family involved. my heart goes out to them :(

xxMATTGxx
13-03-2014, 06:34 AM
so the plane flies for another 4 hours, how long is the original flight? id google but im on my phone. just wondering if it was still airborne when they noticed it drop off the radar, how long did it take for them to notice actually?

super interesting update for us following, tragic news for those with friends and families involved. my heart goes out to them :(

The flight would have taken around 5/6 hours normally. If the latest info is correct I'm going to assume the flight was still in the air flying in a "normal" condition when they lost contact. If it wasn't some sort of mechanical failure then all the pilots or hijacker had to do was turn off the transponder.

I can't remember how long it took them to notice fully.

buttons
13-03-2014, 09:28 AM
@buttons (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=42203); that image you posted i'm sure is a boat
ya they're thinking it's two boats together

i hope they're searching land too? makes me sad to think there might not have been a crash and even if there was, there might still have been survivors, it's what 5.5 days now?? :/

xxMATTGxx
13-03-2014, 09:45 AM
According to the latest press conference the claims from WSJ is inaccurate/false. I didn't watch it so I'm only going by what other people are saying.


Confirmation that the reports of the planes flying on for hours based on engine monitoring data are wrong. Both RR and Boeing confirmed this to MH.

Now a question about the WSJ article:

Where did WSJ get the information from, who were the sources? Maybe we will find out more about that later on.

Summary of what was said in the press conference by Malaysia:


* Engine data is 'inaccurate'
* Chinese satellite photo was released by 'accident' and nothing found in that area.
* Malaysia is accepting all help from any one offering, they are not hiding anything.
* Military radar data released to China and USA
* Last ACARS transmission at 1.07am local time, nothing else after that.
* Boeing and RR have not recieved any data.

So now we are back to square one in a way.

scottish
13-03-2014, 01:11 PM
Oh for **** sake will media and other ***** stop talking **** for attention just to confuse something like this even more.

scottish
13-03-2014, 05:03 PM
http://news.sky.com/story/1225034/malaysia-nothing-to-hide-over-plane-search

Just video of them announcing what's posted above basically.

Jordan
13-03-2014, 05:32 PM
http://news.sky.com/story/1225535/malaysia-flight-satellite-received-signal

How comes they only find this now


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

xxMATTGxx
13-03-2014, 07:25 PM
Wall Street Journal have updated their article to add the following:


U.S. investigators suspect Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 flew for hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, based on an analysis of signals sent through the plane's satellite-communication link designed to automatically transmit the status of some onboard systems, according to people familiar with the matter. An earlier version of this article incorrectly said investigators based their suspicions on signals from monitoring systems embedded in the plane's Rolls-Royce PLC engines and described that process.

buttons
13-03-2014, 07:41 PM
A former British Airways pilot believes the missing Malaysia Airline Flight MH370 is "thousands of miles" from where search parties are looking.


Retired Alastair Rosenschein claims the jet and all 239 passengers has plunged into the Indian Ocean half way between Madagascar and Australia.


Mr Rosenschein, who is now an aviation commentator, spoke on BBC Radio 5 Live to put forward his theory about the aircraft's mysterious disappearance.


He claimed the Malaysian jetliner is around 5,000 miles away from where rescuers are looking in the South China Sea on a course set by the pilots before the crew passed out from a drop in cabin pressure.






http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-live-3236617#ixzz2vsDIWa60
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sigh, u can literally claim it's anywhere, arghh.

Kardan
13-03-2014, 08:13 PM
"I used to drive a plane, so I'll tell you where it could be if you give me some cash!"

xxMATTGxx
13-03-2014, 09:41 PM
Yeah 5,000 miles seems to be a bit extreme IMO. That would mean the plane after it lost contact flew for 4345 nautical miles (5,000 miles). A more realistic approach to that is that it flown up to around 2,000nm ish instead after it lost contact. Which is what is currently being reported.

wixard
14-03-2014, 01:53 AM
pilot suicide looking more and more likely? it's getting frustrating, people irl are coming to me for answers now about this and i honestly don't know what to tell them! i feel every time we get somewhere something else leads up back to the beginning.

so earlier we were told that the transponder being turned off and flying 5 hours was WRONG, yet now it's still being reported?

Kardan
14-03-2014, 03:10 AM
pilot suicide looking more and more likely? it's getting frustrating, people irl are coming to me for answers now about this and i honestly don't know what to tell them! i feel every time we get somewhere something else leads up back to the beginning.

so earlier we were told that the transponder being turned off and flying 5 hours was WRONG, yet now it's still being reported?

What, why?

wixard
14-03-2014, 05:04 AM
What, why?

because they know I've been following since the beginning, and now more people are getting most and interested and know I follow so just ask/text me about it

xxMATTGxx
14-03-2014, 07:05 AM
because they know I've been following since the beginning, and now more people are getting most and interested and know I follow so just ask/text me about it

Have a similar situation in work when they come in they ask me if they have found the plane yet/what's the latest and stuff.

Anyway by the looks of it I don't think there was any more news during the night?

xxMATTGxx
14-03-2014, 08:18 AM
Another claim this morning:

@ReutersAero: Radar-tracking evidence suggests missing Malaysia Airlines flight 370 was deliberately flown towards Andaman Islands - sources. #MH370

-Moniquee.
14-03-2014, 08:23 AM
So many theories and suspicions but we will never know until the plane is found :(.

buttons
14-03-2014, 08:42 AM
new conspiacy guys lol

Nigerian 'prophet' TB Joshua forewarns about a tragedy involving a jet plane in an 'Asian country.'


This YouTube video showing his sermon in July last year has gone viral following the disappearance of the Air Malaysia plane.


The search continues for the missing aircraft.



http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q1-NsRWv25k


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-live-3239624#ixzz2vvNgtTmj
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Matt
14-03-2014, 09:28 AM
The information about them flying the plane towards the Andaman Islands seems pretty likely. I heard some guy talking about it on the radio earlier.

Kardan
14-03-2014, 10:08 AM
new conspiacy guys lol

Nigerian 'prophet' TB Joshua forewarns about a tragedy involving a jet plane in an 'Asian country.'


This YouTube video showing his sermon in July last year has gone viral following the disappearance of the Air Malaysia plane.


The search continues for the missing aircraft.



http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q1-NsRWv25k


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-live-3239624#ixzz2vvNgtTmj
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Wow, this guy clearly knows his stuff(!) It's like saying there's going to be an Earthquake for a country near the ring of fire soon. I don't understand why the media pick these stories up.

sex
14-03-2014, 12:52 PM
New evidence suggests that missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 may have been deliberately cut off from the rest of the world.

US officials said that because two separate communication systems were shut down separately, the plane did not suffer a catastrophic accident.

According to data obtained, the reporting system was shut down at 1.07am (Malaysia time) and the transponder at 1.21am.

does that mean POSSIBLE/LOOKING LIKELY to be a hijacking (if its true) (since they know the times it was shut off i assume its true)

- - - Updated - - -

http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/21970784/malaysia-rejects-jet-debris-images-and-4-hour-flight-report/

scottish
14-03-2014, 12:58 PM
no it means it's more likely the pilots than a hijacking as they're already investigating the pilots apparently after those pics came out.

http://www.theverge.com/2014/3/14/5507724/malaysia-airlines-mh370-foul-play-suspected-reuters

buttons
14-03-2014, 01:09 PM
Researchers have detected a "seafloor event" in the waters between Malaysia and Vietnam nearly two hours after flight MH370 went missing.


Researchers at the University of Science and Technology of China said: "The seafloor event could have been caused by the plane possibly plunging into the sea".


The report was revealed by China state news agency Xinhua which said the event was picked up on two seismographs based in Malaysia and was pinpointed on an area 72 miles to the north east of the last definite contact with the plane.


Researchers added: "The strength of the earthquake wave indicates the plunge was catastrophic."






http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-live-3239624#ixzz2vwTTr4n2
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so what is it, a catastrophic plunge into the sea 2 hours later or flying for extra 4-5 hours :S
+ it's sayin this earthquake wave is 2 hours after it went missing but only 72 miles away from last spotted location so can't be the plane as it would have went more than 72 miles away in 2 hours..

scottish
14-03-2014, 01:12 PM
we'll soon find out, have they already searched the area that supposedly happened in or are they dispatching a crew to search it now?

you'd think something like this wouldn't take 5 days to think oh hey our seismographs had a jump last night and a plane went missing, i wonder what this is about.

sex
14-03-2014, 01:19 PM
no it means it's more likely the pilots than a hijacking as they're already investigating the pilots apparently after those pics came out.

http://www.theverge.com/2014/3/14/5507724/malaysia-airlines-mh370-foul-play-suspected-reuters

the pilots can hijack the plane :S
still makes it a hijacking

scottish
14-03-2014, 01:57 PM
well it's not really hijacking if they're in control of it in the first place, but you obviously knew i meant relating to terrorists (or at least everyone else did).

wixard
14-03-2014, 02:04 PM
well it's not really hijacking if they're in control of it in the first place, but you obviously knew i meant relating to terrorists (or at least everyone else did).

errrr it's still called a hijack regardless who's doing it, steering it away from its intended destination

buttons
14-03-2014, 02:07 PM
yh and whose to say it was the pilots, there could have been other people on the plane who can fly and hence hijack
i don't think it's pilot suicide because why would he not just plunge into sea straight away rather than fly 4 hours opposite direction, if that's even the case? dunno what's confirmed and what's not at this point

sex
14-03-2014, 02:21 PM
well it's not really hijacking if they're in control of it in the first place, but you obviously knew i meant relating to terrorists (or at least everyone else did).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_hijacking

In at least three cases, the plane was hijacked by the official pilot or co-pilot.[1][2][3][4]
bye

scottish
14-03-2014, 02:33 PM
yh and whose to say it was the pilots, there could have been other people on the plane who can fly and hence hijack
i don't think it's pilot suicide because why would he not just plunge into sea straight away rather than fly 4 hours opposite direction, if that's even the case? dunno what's confirmed and what's not at this point

might want to steal the plane, but then has any of the flying for 4 hours been confirmed? it was reported by media then denied, then they're saying military tracked it again, but didn't they already deny that any military tracked it? idk



and as I said it's obvious what was implying.

sex
14-03-2014, 02:35 PM
OBVIOUSLY NOT....... :S
you said it cant be hijackers cause its the pilots
god ur annoying

buttons
14-03-2014, 02:39 PM
will u two give it a ******* rest and argue somewhere else or better yet stop arguing and trying to one up each other. the issue is of 200+ people missing for a week, not the definition of hijacking or terrorism so if you've got nothing to add to this other than trying to be better than the other, **** off

wixard
14-03-2014, 02:41 PM
yh and whose to say it was the pilots, there could have been other people on the plane who can fly and hence hijack
i don't think it's pilot suicide because why would he not just plunge into sea straight away rather than fly 4 hours opposite direction, if that's even the case? dunno what's confirmed and what's not at this point

the reasoning behind this is that he flew it to the indian ocean, which is MASSIVE and extremely deep so the wreckage would be incredibly hard to recover

sex
14-03-2014, 02:43 PM
will u two give it a ******* rest and argue somewhere else or better yet stop arguing and trying to one up each other. the issue is of 200+ people missing for a week, not the definition of hijacking or terrorism so if you've got nothing to add to this other than trying to be better than the other, **** off

all i posted was it looking like a hijacking then was attacked so shut up

buttons
14-03-2014, 02:43 PM
ah ok that makes sense, would have to be a suicide motivated by something against Malaysia or the airline if they don't want wreckage recovered, if it was simply suicide surely it wouldn't matter where he crashed

scottish
14-03-2014, 02:46 PM
has anything been confirmed about the pilots?

I know there was something about one of them being arrested at one point? then it quickly got denied, then something about their houses were being searched idk if that was true

Zak
14-03-2014, 02:51 PM
I'm surprised they haven't found it yet to be fair. Huge search area though.

wixard
14-03-2014, 02:53 PM
ah ok that makes sense, would have to be a suicide motivated by something against Malaysia or the airline if they don't want wreckage recovered, if it was simply suicide surely it wouldn't matter where he crashed

i think it's more to do with the pay out to his family and honouring his name etc, if it's not found and can't be determined as a suicide it will be treated as an accident

i dunno i'm not entirely sure that's just my take on it

buttons
14-03-2014, 02:58 PM
that an interesting take, they did say somethin about an insurance scam as an early theory but didnt say if it was passenger or crew
scott they looked at the pilots homes but concluded that there was nothing to suggest their psychological state was worrying (altho ur state can change easily and not show any signs) or any documents etc to suggest plans

Absently
14-03-2014, 04:22 PM
but i'm so confused as to if it was suicide, then why would he be so selfish to kill everyone else? :/

xxMATTGxx
14-03-2014, 05:11 PM
has anything been confirmed about the pilots?

I know there was something about one of them being arrested at one point? then it quickly got denied, then something about their houses were being searched idk if that was true

The searches of the pilots homes were denied by the Malaysia gov yesterday.

xxMATTGxx
14-03-2014, 06:27 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/1509820_10153200155917588_1997789610_n.jpg

- - - Updated - - -


the pilots can hijack the plane :S
still makes it a hijacking


well it's not really hijacking if they're in control of it in the first place, but you obviously knew i meant relating to terrorists (or at least everyone else did).


errrr it's still called a hijack regardless who's doing it, steering it away from its intended destination

Technically depending on the country and some people wouldn't class this as a hijacking event if it does turn out to be done on purpose by the pilots. Hijacking is when someone who shouldn't be at the control of the aircraft decides to take over or attempts to take over.

God
14-03-2014, 07:37 PM
WOW this is so amazaing, Ive heard some theory of looking towards space and time! idk I didnt really read the article.

Lovely what this story is covering up. Fu(k)ushima reactors are leaking tons of radioactive material into the pacific ocean. Almost all Iodine tablets have been sold out on the west coast of the Americas.


wont let me have it as F.U.K with no spaces

Ardemax
14-03-2014, 08:15 PM
WOW this is so amazaing, Ive heard some theory of looking towards space and time! idk I didnt really read the article.

Lovely what this story is covering up. Fu(k)ushima reactors are leaking tons of radioactive material into the pacific ocean. Almost all Iodine tablets have been sold out on the west coast of the Americas.


wont let me have it as F.U.K with no spaces

I literally have no idea what you just said.

scottish
14-03-2014, 11:33 PM
not much happened today that I can see

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26558070 looks into some theories that are going about

j0rd
14-03-2014, 11:49 PM
just realised it's been a week already since it happened!

sex
15-03-2014, 12:29 AM
NYT: Malaysian Military Radar data shows missing MH370 climbed to 45,000 feet before descending unevenly to 23,000 feet. Rolls-Royce engines data shows it descending 40,000 feet in the space of a minute. American official says "A lot of this doesn't make sense."

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/15/world/asia/malaysia-military-radar.html

xxMATTGxx
15-03-2014, 12:30 AM
A new article has been posted on Wall Street Journal with some new information about a manual heading change.


Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Probe Sharpens Focus on Sabotage

The investigation into the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines 3786.KU +2.13% Flight 370 sharpened its focus on sabotage, according to aviation and industry officials, amid strong indications that one or more people on the plane deliberately changed its course and tried to mask its location.

Officials suspect two different systems were shut off after the plane took off last weekend, one shortly after the other, people familiar with the investigation said. About an hour into the flight, the plane's transponders stopped functioning, making it much more difficult for air-traffic control personnel to track or identify it via radar.

In the ensuing minutes, a second system sent a routine aircraft-monitoring message to a satellite indicating that someone made a manual change in the plane's heading, veering sharply to the west.

Such a turn wouldn't have been part of the original authorized route programmed in the flight-management computer that controls the autopilot. Those system-monitoring messages are suspected to have been disabled shortly afterward, according to some of these people.

Read the rest of the article by going to: http://online.wsj.com/news/article_email/SB10001424052702304185104579439403486098062-lMyQjAxMTA0MDEwNDExNDQyWj

scottish
15-03-2014, 12:41 AM
Didn't Rolls Royce already deny any statement of them receiving engine data?

buttons
15-03-2014, 12:44 AM
Didn't Rolls Royce already deny any statement of them receiving engine data?
they claimed they got data > denied > now unconfirmed/decline to comment. basically same cycle as every story they're bringing up.
i honestly thought after a few days it'd be found and be concluded to be a mechanical failure w.e... this is too mind boggling

wixard
15-03-2014, 12:47 AM
just thought i'd link the new subreddit regarding the plane for you guys

http://www.reddit.com/r/mh370

i'm going to sleep, usually get some updates at about 6am our time from the press conferences they hold. honestly don't know where it will go from here, can't believe it's been a week! devastating for the families, they just need some closure

Rachel
15-03-2014, 04:40 AM
This is getting ridiculous......I feel sorry for the family though.

Matt
15-03-2014, 04:45 AM
This has just been released via Australian Media:


Malaysian government officials say plane was hijacked

A Malaysian government official says investigators have concluded that one of the pilots or someone else with flying experience hijacked the missing Malaysia Airlines jet.

The official, who is involved in the investigation, says no motive has been established, and it is not yet clear where the plane was taken. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to brief the media.
The official said that hijacking was no longer a theory. "It is conclusive."
The Boeing 777's communication with the ground was severed under one hour into a flight March 8 from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing. Malaysian officials have said radar data suggest it may have turned back and crossed back over the Malaysian peninsula westward, after setting out toward the Chinese capital.



Rest of the Article:
http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/21995498/missing-flight-hijacked-malaysia/

Something which most of us already knew or assumed was likely, it's just taken the Malaysian government this long to confirm it. Funny how he wasn't given permission to brief the media?? They'll probably come out in a few hours saying this was a lie and that it's not true ;l

xxMATTGxx
15-03-2014, 04:47 AM
I'm going to give a guess and say they will confirm/deny within the next hour or so.

xxMATTGxx
15-03-2014, 06:32 AM
Prime Minster stated the following in this mornings press conference:


Confirmed: ACARS disabled, transponder switched off. -Malaysian PM #MH370

Malaysian PM: We can confirm that the aircraft shown in the primary radar data was #MH370. FAA, NTSB, AAIB all confirm.

"Movements are consistent with deliberate action by someone on the plane." -Malaysian PM #MH370

Malaysian PM: Unable to confirm precise location of the #MH370 during last contact with satellite. Based on new data, one of two corridors.

Malaysia PM: Aircraft Likely in Corridor Along Thailand-Kazakhstan or Indonesia-South India

Malaysian PM: "Refocused investigation into crew and passengers aboard." #MH370

Malaysian PM: investigation now focused on crew. We are still investigating all possibilities as to what cause #MH370 to debate from path

Malaysian PM: Ending #MH370 operations in South China Sea.

They haven't said the plane was hijacked 100% but they are investigating in all possibilities.

Now onto the other tweets:


444727811576979456


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It's now safe to say this wasn't an accident and the actions taken was done on purpose. Whether that was done by the crew or someone else that still needs to be known but we won't know for sure yet. It's also pretty much confirmed that the aircraft carried on flying for a number of hours after it "lost contact".

-Moniquee.
15-03-2014, 06:43 AM
It has been confirmed and the hijackers had flying experience so the plane could be anywhere.
http://mobile.news.com.au/world/malaysia-confirms-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-was-hijacked/story-fndir2ev-1226855315871

wixard
15-03-2014, 08:23 AM
good morning guys

kinda shocked at the released news and widening of the search, could literally be anywhere! if it's in iran, how ******* ironic to the guy that was trying to leave. unless he's part of it (really doubt).

anyway, with regards to the hijacking i still think it's quite odd how timely it worked out if it were a passenger. the hijack assumingly took place right after they left the malaysian airspace, is that what it's called?

whatever's going on and now that it undoubtedly points to a hijacking, i'd say there's a LOT of information they're withholding and that wont be released, or at least not released for awhile to the public.

xxMATTGxx
15-03-2014, 08:37 AM
good morning guys

kinda shocked at the released news and widening of the search, could literally be anywhere! if it's in iran, how ******* ironic to the guy that was trying to leave. unless he's part of it (really doubt).

anyway, with regards to the hijacking i still think it's quite odd how timely it worked out if it were a passenger. the hijack assumingly took place right after they left the malaysian airspace, is that what it's called?

whatever's going on and now that it undoubtedly points to a hijacking, i'd say there's a LOT of information they're withholding and that wont be released, or at least not released for awhile to the public.

Yeah it happened when they was laving Malaysia airspace and was about to enter Vietnam's airspace. They never contacted the ATC as they would have done normally when they switched airspace.

Also it's now being reported the following:


Reuters: senior #Malaysia police official says house of pilot of missing flight #MH370 is being searched

Blinger
15-03-2014, 08:39 AM
it's in north korea. my guess.

xxMATTGxx
15-03-2014, 08:46 AM
it's in north korea. my guess.

I don't want to sound harsh but do they have the knowledge to truly pull something like this off? Also aren't they supposed to have a some what nice relationship with China? There was like 100 or so Chinese people on board the aircraft.

wixard
15-03-2014, 08:56 AM
why is the house only being searched now? should it not have been searched the minute there was any suspicion of a hijacking? how hard is it to get a warrant in malaysia jesus

xxMATTGxx
15-03-2014, 08:59 AM
why is the house only being searched now? should it not have been searched the minute there was any suspicion of a hijacking? how hard is it to get a warrant in malaysia jesus

Not sure, fair enough not searching it on the first day or two maybe as obvious you don't just think the pilots did it on purpose and is a normal accident of some sort. But once all this information came together then they should have done that sooner IMO.

Also a question I just asked on twitter:

444756107127701504

Blinger
15-03-2014, 09:26 AM
North Korea have been flexing muscles for a while, time to throw a punch by them.

Wouldn't be surprised of they have nothing to do with it tbh.

Evanora
15-03-2014, 09:32 AM
i know where the plane is not that anyone bothered to ask me

xxMATTGxx
15-03-2014, 09:33 AM
i know where the plane is not that anyone bothered to ask me

Probably not the best thread to make jokes in. I'm sure you wouldn't if there were members of your family on board.

Blinger
15-03-2014, 09:40 AM
Probably not the best thread to make jokes in. I'm sure you wouldn't if there were members of your family on board.
But does anyone from here have members of their family on board that flight?

xxMATTGxx
15-03-2014, 09:44 AM
But does anyone from here have members of their family on board that flight?

I have no idea but that's not what I said and it's out of respect more than anything.

Ardemax
15-03-2014, 10:39 AM
But does anyone from here have members of their family on board that flight?

Ah that's alright then, continue to take the piss.

buttons
15-03-2014, 11:09 AM
why is the house only being searched now? should it not have been searched the minute there was any suspicion of a hijacking? how hard is it to get a warrant in malaysia jesus


Not sure, fair enough not searching it on the first day or two maybe as obvious you don't just think the pilots did it on purpose and is a normal accident of some sort. But once all this information came together then they should have done that sooner IMO.

Also a question I just asked on twitter:

444756107127701504
they did say they searched a few days ago but denied it, they probably did search but didnt want to make it public yet and are doing a more thorough search now?

im really shocked to find out that it seems to actually be a hijacking. i thought i was overreacting and just wanted any possibility that people were somehow alive and hasn't crashed into the sea. worrying that hijackers haven't been heard from yet though so could have been a hijack suicide or that something went wrong during the attempt

Another interesting development this morning - Malaysian officials are said to have told journalists they believe the most likely location for MH370 is on land, near the border of China and Kyrgyzstan border.






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i just really hope it's found soon

karter
15-03-2014, 12:21 PM
kyrgyzstan how the ****.....

xxMATTGxx
15-03-2014, 12:50 PM
In regards of the searches, they have been done today either for a second time or the first time. It's been confirmed by the Police and they have also been seen doing it.

wixard
15-03-2014, 01:21 PM
In regards of the searches, they have been done today either for a second time or the first time. It's been confirmed by the Police and they have also been seen doing it.

are you talking about today? i honestly think it could be the first time, reporters have been standing outside the house for days now and they say there was always police there, but this is the first time they're reporting them going inside and spending 4 hours there

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