View Full Version : [HxL] Age Restriction on New DJs
Logandyer45
08-06-2014, 05:26 AM
Hello folks,
Here in my time at Habbox, I have ran across so many immature kids. I have had to deal with them, I have had a few be rude and immature to me in my time here. (No I am not leaving). Anyways, I am here to propose an idea for the Application Process.
I know there used to be an age limit, you had to be x age plus to DJ. I think if we set the age to 15, we will cut down on the immature kids. Now, let it alone that the manager is 14, she acts like she is 18 or 19 years old. The immaturety that I have seen is terrible. I myself am fed up with it, hince why I am making this post.
Let me give you a scenerio:
A DJ leaves HxL because he was harrassed by DJ's. Yes, there is an action he could have taken, but the fact of it is, he didn't feel like anything was going to happen to said DJ(s). Please remember this is a scenerio, it might or might not have happened.
Anyways, you get my point.
I thank you for reading, if you have any comments or concerns, please respond to me and make sure you tag me so I may see it.
-LoganD
If your actual manager is younger than the age you're proposing to restrict it to then rather than stating that she acts a certain age perhaps consider that age should not be a factor at all. I know 20 somethings who, in your view, would act like teenagers. There is no way to properly quantify maturity so to restrict people based on age alone would be cutting the potential futures short of a lot of DJs.
In this hypothetical situation of yours... What kind of harassment are we talking about? I know that last week for example there was a bit of (and I hate using this word) banter between DJ moist and DJ smudge because smudge was talking a lot during her show (something that I actually really like) and a comment was made about it on air and it seems to have been taken to heart where it wasn't intended.
What kind of harassment is it that you're trying to tackle with this proposition? Perhaps a different measure could be put in place.
sexpot
08-06-2014, 06:46 AM
I don't agree with age restrictions, but I think that you should have to wait a bit before applying to become a DJ. Like a week or 2 after you join hxf you can apply to become a DJ. That way they have a chance to integrate themselves into the community before becoming staff.
xxMATTGxx
08-06-2014, 08:04 AM
It would be very hard to moderate - I know for a fact a lot of people lie about their age on this forum already so having to get them "prove" their age is going to be a nightmare. Harassment can be done by any person regardless of their age though, young or old. Restricting to a specific age limit isn't going to help but we will need to know what harassment we are talking about here.
You can't say lower the age and then say "oh the manager is 14 but acts 18/19" ... whats that to say that others aren't? You can't just say no you're 14 you can't DJ because of the minority that are immature.
You hire them, if they're good at their job, it's fine. If not, you lose them. People will only lie about their age and so many sounds a lot older too.
akeel$
08-06-2014, 08:28 AM
I agree with what e5; is saying but disagree with age restriction.
This is why we have trials - to see how good these people are at their jobs also warnings/firings. Some nineteen eighteen etc year olds are more immature then thirteen's and fourteen's so it's more about the personality rather than age. Everybody gets a trial when they get a job and that trial is to prove if they're good with the job. They'll fail their trial if they do not have ability so if you really think a PARTICULAR DJ is doing their job incorrectly you should report that DJ alone to the Head DJ and maybe they'll keep an eye on them but age restrictions? Really? No.
MKR&*42
08-06-2014, 08:29 AM
A) Could lie about your age
B) There are plenty of immature people over 15 years of age
C) Not all under 15s are incredibly immature and determined to piss people off.
Don't think we should be trying to restrict a department that is actually doing decently.
Reality
08-06-2014, 08:34 AM
How the hell do you impose to do this when your manager is younger than yourself?! I'm not saying for one minute Gina is immature as she isn't, she knows when to act professionally and when to have a laugh, this is what seem to forget to tell apart when working within Habbox as hardly anyone has emotions or knows how to act "professionally."
As the Garner has said, moderation of this is hard as people may not be truthful on their application making it hard to moderate the applicants who apply!
Age restrictions also mean you blackout potential "talent", within habboxlive. Overall, it just spuds like you're a power hungry wannabe manager!
Calum0812
08-06-2014, 09:31 AM
Going to take this opportunity to refer to something James said when he was manager which is...
Gina is 14,
I am 15 and
Izzy is 16
Just because people are young doesn't mean they;
a) Can't do the job properly
b) Act immaturely.
At the end of the day, we are a fansite aimed at a teen game
CrazyLemurs
08-06-2014, 09:36 AM
I play on Garry's Mod servers where you are required to be at least 15 to use the in-game voice chat system. It works in keeping "squeakers" off the microphone, but it has no effect whatsoever on the levels of maturity of the players on/off the mic.
Is part of what you want to complain about the fact that younger DJs typically have higher, squeakier voices? I could understand you trying to feign another complaint about young DJs because you secretly get sick of their voices
And thank you Calum0812; for pointing out DJs on a teen game should also allowed to be teens themselves. That's probably the best (and most obvious) reason that this idea is a little meh
Calum0812
08-06-2014, 09:38 AM
I play on Garry's Mod servers where you are required to be at least 15 to use the in-game voice chat system. It works in keeping "squeakers" off the microphone, but it has no effect whatsoever on the levels of maturity of the players on/off the mic.
Is part of what you want to complain about the fact that younger DJs typically have higher, squeakier voices? I could understand you trying to feign another complaint about young DJs because you secretly get sick of their voices
And thank you @Calum0812 (http://www.habboxforum.com/member.php?u=112488); for pointing out DJs on a teen game should also allowed to be teens themselves. That's probably the best (and most obvious) reason that this idea is a little meh
I hate to mention the obvious but it hadn't been raised and is the bottom line tbh haha
IzzyUhh
08-06-2014, 09:45 AM
Ngl its a bit of a silly rule.
Maybe cutting the age tp 13 pr 12 or w.e may be better as thats the age you're allowed to be to actually play habbo.
As Calum said, Gina, Himself and I are only teens ourselves, and there are a few DJs of the age of around 13 or 14 that are very good DJs.
Everyones a little immature sometimes, its a game for teens+ that we all play on.
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Evanora
08-06-2014, 10:25 AM
why do some dj's with awful microphones and bad quality songs pass their trials?? mystery!!
akeel$
08-06-2014, 10:35 AM
Intersocial; You have just made a FANTASTIC point.
People will lie about their ages! We already have many members in the community who lie about genders/ages already but this would just make Habbox more of a riotting fansite then it already is. I say we lock this topic and forget it ever happened!
This will just cause more problems and complications. I will be very disappointed if this suggestion is taken through with because it's just not good enough to be an official rule. Age restrictions are awful and nobody will be able to DJ because most of our members are 13/14/15 and most of them are mature; just keep away from the immature ones and that creates a strong and good fansite. Personally our DJ's right now they're good I'm happy with them you know they're not really bad.
Evanora
08-06-2014, 10:35 AM
Intersocial; You have just made a FANTASTIC point.
People will lie about their ages! We already have many members in the community who lie about genders/ages already but this would just make Habbox more of a riotting fansite then it already is. I say we lock this topic and forget it ever happened!
like YOU!
akeel$
08-06-2014, 10:51 AM
like YOU!
pls stay on topic ... but no i do not fake either of those.
Inseriousity.
08-06-2014, 10:54 AM
When I was AGM, I always thought the best way to attract younger users to Habbox would be via HxL. We shouldn't be restricting younger users, should be welcoming them
FlyingJesus
08-06-2014, 11:29 AM
There is literally no call to implement this. The example you give is that someone was harassed and did nothing about it, and you somehow come to the conclusion that youth is the problematic factor in that rather than someone not going through the proper channels and sorting out what needed to be sorted out. I'm sure there are spats and feuds between DJs but it's a huge department so obviously not everyone is going to get along, and it doesn't seem to be affecting performance anyway
kitten
08-06-2014, 11:30 AM
totally disagree!! of course there are some immature 14 and younger djs but like gina, there are plenty that act mature and in the same way. it would be unfair to categorise all of the younger djs just because you don't like how SOME of them act.
there should not be an age limit because if that happens, you're basically saying that all younger djs act immature, disallowing the maturer section of young people from wanting to become djs
lemons
08-06-2014, 11:44 AM
no :Thumbs-Down:
Rachel
08-06-2014, 12:08 PM
This shouldn't be a reason to exclude them... You were once that age let alone act the same way and got accepted . I do not want this rule to happen anytime soon.
Hannah
08-06-2014, 12:27 PM
You contradict yourself in your opening argument, not to mention of how much of a silly rule it would be; elaborated by those posting above.
There are ways to deal with people who are rude, harass or generally act immature - but let's not forget that Habbo is aimed at teens, not that an age can really define maturity levels of any one person. By setting the age to 15, you'd be removing a few good DJs who as you stated about your manager, are mature and good at their jobs. Why should they be restricted purely because they are young and could quite possibly act their age?
The immaturety that I have seen is terrible. I myself am fed up with it, hince why I am making this post.
If you see immaturity which effects the site, then go to your manager or any higher member of staff that can deal with the situation appropriately. But I will say, if you're fed up with it then you'll have a lovely shock when you get into real jobs with people who will be immature or you'll get fed up with - at the end of the day if they're not really doing anything wrong then nothing can be done about them.
And as for your hypothetical situation - they may have believed that nothing would supposedly happen to said DJs, but because they weren't willing to act upon it no action would be taken. The staff here are not omniscient, so if they aren't made aware of the situation how are they supposed to deal with it?
Finally, why should all people below the age of 15 (if hypothetically people were not lying about their age, etc.) suffer because of the actions of a few? There are many things that could be said about that view of things, and I'll just say that being an immature and narrow-minded view is one of them.
Absently
08-06-2014, 12:44 PM
yeah like others have said it's pretty pointless considering there are younger people who act a lot more mature and a lot of much older people are quite immature too. don't see the point.
Richie
08-06-2014, 12:51 PM
I don't really think there's a problem to start implementing restrictions, the more help the better. When I was 16/17 I reckon I was and still am more immature than the majority of the younger staff at habbox. Let everyone apply!
Lewis
08-06-2014, 01:02 PM
Maturity is not always gained by age. I find it ridiculous that you're suggesting a 15 year old limit, especially when the current manager is 14.
As many have said, this is a teen fansite for habbo. As long as they're in the age limit for habbo, it's fine, immaturity should be dealt with properly if they're 13 or 19. Age really doesn't matter.
!x!dude!x!2
08-06-2014, 02:37 PM
I don't agree with age restrictions, but I think that you should have to wait a bit before applying to become a DJ. Like a week or 2 after you join hxf you can apply to become a DJ. That way they have a chance to integrate themselves into the community before becoming staff.
I second this!. most DJ's dont even post on the forum. Most of them tell me they just signed so they can become a DJ. they need more community interaction also !
Rachel
08-06-2014, 03:57 PM
I second this!. most DJ's dont even post on the forum. Most of them tell me they just signed so they can become a DJ. they need more community interaction also !
You're right and by having age restrictions it won't help to have more community interaction instead of thinking to add a pointless rule like age restriction why not think about ways to interact with them to make them feel welcome :)
IzzyUhh
08-06-2014, 04:26 PM
I second this!. most DJ's dont even post on the forum. Most of them tell me they just signed so they can become a DJ. they need more community interaction also !
Its a rule really that DJs are regularly active on the forum and post around on the main forum and not only the normal staff section.
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!x!dude!x!2
08-06-2014, 04:28 PM
Its a rule really that DJs are regularly active on the forum and post around on the main forum and not only the normal staff section.
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Not to point fingers but the Bravo senior DJ has 3 post.
Drewar
08-06-2014, 04:33 PM
When I first started DJing for Habbox 10 years ago, I was only 13. I used to get a lot of mean requests over the request line making fun of my voice, etc. It was hard to be a DJ before "going through the change" because people online can be very mean, but I also learned a lot about how to develop tough skin and not let comments from haters get to me.
I actually made my way to HabboxRadio Management when I was only 14 years old.
Looking back, yes, I was quite immature 10 years ago. I look at some of my old posts on here and I cringe about how immature I was. But I was very dedicated to improving and becoming a good DJ. Now, 10 years later, I'm still DJing for Habbox, and I have really developed my skills over the years. That would have never been possible if I was turned away based on my age years ago.
IzzyUhh
08-06-2014, 04:35 PM
Not to point fingers but the Bravo senior DJ has 3 post.
wat that is pointing fingers LMAO
Yeah I get that and a lot of DJs don't actually like posting on the forum which is a huge shame and does get sorted a lot and gets mentioned to almost every DJ at some point.
The community thingy is a huge thing that actually gets mentioned in feedbacks a lot, whether it be online on habbo whilst DJing or doing a competition.
!x!dude!x!2
08-06-2014, 04:41 PM
wat that is pointing fingers LMAO
Yeah I get that and a lot of DJs don't actually like posting on the forum which is a huge shame and does get sorted a lot and gets mentioned to almost every DJ at some point.
The community thingy is a huge thing that actually gets mentioned in feedbacks a lot, whether it be online on habbo whilst DJing or doing a competition.
Well if it something that gets brought into feedbacks a lot then obv they aren't getting the point and something has to be done.
IzzyUhh
08-06-2014, 04:44 PM
Well if it something that gets brought into feedbacks a lot then obv they aren't getting the point and something has to be done.
Things do get done, for example with the competitions, I offer my team some prizes to giveaway on air if they're struggling with supplying them themselves. But yes I do agree that a lot more DJs should be interacting more.
!x!dude!x!2
08-06-2014, 04:51 PM
Things do get done, for example with the competitions, I offer my team some prizes to giveaway on air if they're struggling with supplying them themselves. But yes I do agree that a lot more DJs should be interacting more.
Im not talking about competitions on air. i mean on the forum . they need to interact on the forum more
IzzyUhh
08-06-2014, 04:53 PM
Im not talking about competitions on air. i mean on the forum . they need to interact on the forum more
I know but you said about yhe community so
Yeah ik
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despect
08-06-2014, 05:32 PM
I'm sorry but I COMPLETELY disagree. Why does it matter how old they are? If they can DJ and sound good on the radio it doesn't matter how old they are at all. I mean Gina as many have mentioned is 14 and I used her as an example in a previous thread she has worked her butt off for HabboxLive over the many years and now look she's manager. Age does not have anything to do with their ability of DJing at all. People need to remember this is a fansite not a real business I mean if a real life business said OK well your this age you can't do this job then I'd say that's age discrimination which is completely wrong. Don't put them down just because they are younger because this just proves that regardless of your age if you can do the job well enough then leave them be. There should never be an age limit because even the youngest of DJs show potential to move up the ranks not only at HabboxLive but in other departments too.
Just to add to people saying about community interaction, we did have a lot of DJs who could interact with the community more however before I resigned I did have a lot of ideas to encourage them to interact with the community which I will pass onto Gina shortly :).
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