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lemons
15-07-2016, 08:21 PM
seems very serious!

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Live updates:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/15/turkey-low-flying-jets-and-gunfire-heard-in-ankara1/

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FlyingJesus
15-07-2016, 09:15 PM
Incredible, and it's happened so fast. Not wholly surprised since Erdogan hasn't been popular for trying to give powers back to the Caliphate (which is exactly the opposite of what Ataturk did in creating the country in the first place) but wow, just hope it goes over bloodlessly

lemons
15-07-2016, 09:22 PM
military saying it's a success.... govt saying otherwise

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Sky News are showing footage from a Turkish tv station speaking to the turkish president via facetime

-:Undertaker:-
15-07-2016, 10:29 PM
Wow. Given the history of Turkey this isn't surprising, but it is surprising at the same time.

If I am honest, like Tom alluded to, probably for the best. The government has been sliding towards Islamism for a while now and the Turkish Army like any is there to put an end to it. The true irony though here is if President Assad outlasts President Erdogan.

Beware of the potential of civil war.

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There's nothing like a good old military coup.

scottish
15-07-2016, 10:39 PM
Apparently they've opened fire on a police station.

-:Undertaker:-
15-07-2016, 10:51 PM
Turkish Police and the Turkish Navy are apparently against the coup. I warned of potential civil war.

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It'd be a disaster now if the coup fails. Danger that military would be permanently neutered and political/constitutional consequences would follow.

Readng reports now looks like the coup is stalling - important if true. A coup de'tat success depends on speed and slickness of an overnight takeover.

FlyingJesus
15-07-2016, 11:42 PM
The biggest problem as I see it is that if the coup fails, it'll entrench the power of Erdogan and allow him and his government to put further restrictions on the people. There have already tonight been a lot of media blackouts with social media sites being blocked in the country, but whether that's been imposed by the govt or military remains to be seen. Very sad to see gunfire opening up now in any case

Mikey
15-07-2016, 11:49 PM
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Seems like bullshit.. just watched jets going through Istanbul on Sky News.

FlyingJesus
16-07-2016, 12:04 AM
"according to state-run Turkish news agency" and wow trying to say that everything's back to normal is not a good plan when Twitter exists

scottish
16-07-2016, 12:06 AM
I'm seeing reports saying it has failed too.

AgnesIO
16-07-2016, 02:22 AM
How to lose thousands of pounds over night... own properties in Turkey..

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Reports seem to imply it has failed, surely running out of time for any success now. Not good news at all - as others have said, the Government will likely use this to take a stronger hand on the people.

-:Undertaker:-
16-07-2016, 07:24 AM
Worrying now that President Erdogen could now get his wish and turn Turkey over from a Parliamentary system of government to a Presidential one, with executive power and governmental power being invested in his office rather than the Parliament. Not my kind of state system nor one that suits Turkey (Kurdistan issue). If you were really cynical you'd be arguing he'd staged this failed coup as a way of getting support against the army for what he really wants.....

Cerys
16-07-2016, 08:38 AM
Reported that 41 police, 47 civilians and 104 'coup plotters' have been killed
Rip :(

The Don
16-07-2016, 09:39 AM
Worrying now that President Erdogen could now get his wish and turn Turkey over from a Parliamentary system of government to a Presidential one, with executive power and governmental power being invested in his office rather than the Parliament. Not my kind of state system nor one that suits Turkey (Kurdistan issue). If you were really cynical you'd be arguing he'd staged this failed coup as a way of getting support against the army for what he really wants.....

There's a lot of talk about this being a false flag to gain more power for himself which really wouldn't surprise me when you consider Erdogan's history.

xxMATTGxx
16-07-2016, 11:43 AM
US airlines prohibited flying to & from Istanbul & Ankara airports by FAA.

IST was completely overrun with people freely walking into secured areas - So god knows what any of those people could have done to any aircraft that was on the ground during that time.

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