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07-12-2009, 07:56 PM
-:Undertaker:-

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Habbox is always going to be rated with regards to popularity. You can say what you want about any of those people (they all had their flaws imo) but it was much better under ---MAD--- and 8f8. Of course, I'm just judging by popularity and influence on Habbo as that's all I can go by. They did better than Nvr, that much is fact.

He is the reason (---MAD---) why we have declining numbers now, nobody new lasted under his regime, which explains that as we have lost users over the past year or so since he left, those who should of replaced them never did, because they either were banned under him or thought 'sod it' because it was run like a police state.

On the actual solution, skins aren't even a part of it - we need to get on Habbo and get people back, us sitting on here with nice skins and badges on the forum won't win anybody back.
07-12-2009, 07:58 PM
The Professor

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Originally Posted by invincible

nvrspk4 is currently Acting Community AGM.

I can't get my head round that. If he's too ill to do his job as GM then why has he taken up a job that desparately needs doing that he has no chance of doing? My brain hurts...
07-12-2009, 08:04 PM
Immenseman

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

He is the reason (---MAD---) why we have declining numbers now, nobody new lasted under his regime, which explains that as we have lost users over the past year or so since he left, those who should of replaced them never did, because they either were banned under him or thought 'sod it' because it was run like a police state.

On the actual solution, skins aren't even a part of it - we need to get on Habbo and get people back, us sitting on here with nice skins and badges on the forum won't win anybody back.

I don't believe that at all. He was GM in 07, loads of current members joined in 07. You don't see any new people from 09 unless it's old people on a new account. More people stayed then than they did now. It's just a myth that he banned people willy nilly as far as I'm concerned. He had favourites, so did 8f8, so does nvr. It happens.

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Originally Posted by The Professor

I can't get my head round that. If he's too ill to do his job as GM then why has he taken up a job that desparately needs doing that he has no chance of doing? My brain hurts...

Bloody Americans! :P
07-12-2009, 08:08 PM
The Professor

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

He is the reason (---MAD---) why we have declining numbers now, nobody new lasted under his regime, which explains that as we have lost users over the past year or so since he left, those who should of replaced them never did, because they either were banned under him or thought 'sod it' because it was run like a police state.

On the actual solution, skins aren't even a part of it - we need to get on Habbo and get people back, us sitting on here with nice skins and badges on the forum won't win anybody back.

I disagree with every aspect of that post, what he did 3 years ago has nothing to do with numbers now. And skins are a vital part of it, first impressions are vital and if we look dated and boring the first impression is "stuff this, clubhabbo is shiny".
07-12-2009, 08:08 PM
Sammeth.

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Originally Posted by The Professor

I can't get my head round that. If he's too ill to do his job as GM then why has he taken up a job that desparately needs doing that he has no chance of doing? My brain hurts...

I think that at the moment its just a matter of finding suitable replacements. I would say at the moment the position of CAGM and GM will be the hardest to fill (the only ones that really need filling). They are difficult jobs and its all about finding the right person, and I think we're just trying to scrape in whatever manpower we can get till we do.
07-12-2009, 08:11 PM
Inseriousity.

As your avatar suggests Alex, your brain can't hurt that bad :p

I'll just point out the 'daily competitions' that jake mentioned as it concerns my department... oh and the 'I was informed that general management would take a back seat and let the department managers have the final say' because that involves me as well. :)

While daily competitions are idealistic, I think repeating things constantly ruins the novelty of such things. That being said, there are times in the competitions calendar where these things do happen. For example, from today to the 10th or something, there is a competition each day because that's just how it worked out.

As for the general management taking a back seat, I think they've took too much of a back seat tbh. Yes I agree that department managers should have the final say over most things (excluding a few) but the AGMs need to start getting their hands dirty and digging in. This is obviously mainly due to Catszy being away that my department has had no AGM-feedback since she left (which is a shame because she'd have been an amazing AGM tbh). I dunno if the content departments are suffering the same though as infrequent is very active. I would back MattGarner for the role of AGM Community seen as he's very nice :)
07-12-2009, 08:15 PM
Robbie

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Originally Posted by Inseriousity.

I dunno if the content departments are suffering the same though as infrequent is very active. I would back MattGarner for the role of AGM Community seen as he's very nice :)

I agree with these, Jake is great and uploads stuff as soon as he's sent it and he's great to talk to. Same with Matt, Matt was the first person to congratulate me when I got Forum Moderator and since then we've spoken a lot, I reckon he'd be good as CAGM
07-12-2009, 08:18 PM
Hecktix

MattGarner is a pretty awesome community/people person.
07-12-2009, 08:19 PM
Immenseman

I'm so good at this. Persuaded you all already. Obviously, Matt might prefer to stay on as FM or whatever and want tio improve things. AGM is a promotion in my opinion and we know he's trusted with Admin positions etc so it's not an issue as far as that is concerned.
07-12-2009, 08:21 PM
GoldenMerc

to be honest i agree.

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Originally Posted by Immenseman

None of them are suitable which is why nvr had to take it. That's the wrong decision too though. No managers (department wise) really integrate with the community in terms of posting and getting involved in and around the forum. They have to bite the bullet and appoint someone controversial, -:Undertaker:-, GommeInc, FlyingJesus, MattG. Just a few names who I personally think would do a good job.

Personally this is what I would do:

GM - split between the next few for the time being. just have jin in charge for the last word type thing
AGM content - infrequent
AGM staff - Sammeth.
AGM community - MattGarner
Forum Manager - Garion
Assistant Forum Manager - Robbie/Invincible

his obviously isn't me just saying friends names (obv as i put oli there ;l :P) as I don't talk to the majority of those people. I think Matt would be much better as AGM Community. He is suited to the role. Obviously, that's just me and I have no influence whatsoever. That would work better in my opinion.

edit; ok sam. didn't know that was the plan.

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