Forum going down hill?

[GommeInc]

Why does nobody tell me these things?

Surely everyone should know this? And isn't nvrspk4 ill :S

[hah]

why dont you just upgrade to vb four now and make the new skins instead of waiting till the new year?.......

[xxMATTGxx]

why dont you just upgrade to vb four now and make the new skins instead of waiting till the new year?.......

Because Vb4 hasn't been fully released yet.

[Immenseman]

Matt said he didn't like them personally but that doesn't mean we aren't discussing the possibility of introducing them anyway. In fact in the thread I posted in Forum Management Only I said "I don't like them, but it seems the members are beginning to and therefore introducing them would be an advantage". So we don't allow personal opinion in the way but we do like to listen to the members, regardless of our personal opinion.

I'd like to point out that although Matt and I try to do things there are only certain things we can do and we do need to clear things with senior management first. Additionally we only have the ability to do certain things in certain instances. Skins, for example, are not an area either of us particular specialise in. The responsibility for the decline cannot be rested solely on Matt's shoulders. Matt did not cause the problem and it's hardly a football team and I don't think the affinity between the forum and Portsmouth FC is a fair one. We do have the power to make changes, however, and we are setting the wheels in motion. We're taking steps to make them happen but as I said previously we don't have the power to click our fingers and see a bunch of changes implemented and everyone be happy. If I did have that authority things might be different, but I don't and we are trying to do our best with what we have .

Like I have already said, the badges was just an example I used to make sure my point was put across properly and to ensure you understood what I meant.

I was promised that General Management aren't butting into departments and that department managers have the final say. You and Matt are department managers. General Management say they don't intervene and then you tell me you have to go through them to implement change. You certainly shouldn't have to. My point stands as far as I'm concerned you and Matt run the forum therefore you have to shoulder some of the blame for the forum not doing very well. I think any good leader would. Again, this is an opinion and if you believe that you and Matt who run the forum don't deserve any of the blame for the forum suffering then that's your opinion and I respect that.

Again, I compared it to Portsmouth to ensure you understood what I meant. I only used them as an example to highlight when things aren't going well regardless of changes from above, in this case General Management, those in charge of the team, in this case the Forum Management are the ones who have to get the results, in this case popularity.

Realistically, I know it's not entirely your fault or Matt's fault or any bodies fault as an individual. However, there is a clear lack of action seeing as this issue was acknowledged by Forum and General Management months ago. I haven't noticed any significant change to actually aid the forum and challenge the issue directly.

Says it all.

Thank you for that Jake.

Regardless of what people say about me and how I act, I genuinely enjoy coming on this forum and will help in whatever way I can in helping it out this rut. If that's suggesting ideas and giving opinions, even if sometimes they're extreme then that's exactly what I'll do.

nvrspk4 is currently Acting Community AGM.

Was that his idea? "I'll do the role whilst I'm away!!!" Like it was his idea to choose an AGM who was going to Uni in a few months? Like it was his idea to choose an AGM who had resigned due to being busy? Like it was his idea to choose an AGM who was an inactive member? I love nvrspk4, we haven't always seen eye to eye but he's reasonable and will help as and when I've needed him too however I really disagree with some of his decisions. Especially with regards to appointments.

[hah]

we got jake to take mr oshs place.. now get someone to take Catszys place...... even if its temp... because nvr seems to be doing nothing . ,Jess, is working as a manager ages.. im sure she will whip them all into shape lol

[Immenseman]

we got jake to take mr oshs place.. now get someone to take Catszys place...... even if its temp... because nvr seems to be doing nothing . ,Jess, is working as a manager ages.. im sure she will whip them all into shape lol

Nah, it has to be someone like Rosie who actually contributes to the forum in terms of posting and what not because I never see her posting to be honest. Although, she was a manager same time as me I think like 2007 and I was AGM and resigned like over a year ago, lol.

[hah]

she posts in music but it was the only one i can think of because from whaT i hear all other manages are 12-15 years of age

[Sammeth.]

Was that his idea? "I'll do the role whilst I'm away!!!" Like it was his idea to choose an AGM who was going to Uni in a few months? Like it was his idea to choose an AGM who had resigned due to being busy? Like it was his idea to choose an AGM who was an inactive member? I love nvrspk4, we haven't always seen eye to eye but he's reasonable and will help as and when I've needed him too however I really disagree with some of his decisions. Especially with regards to appointments.

In all fairness it was always the plan for me to stop being Community AGM and become Staff AGM, and it was me who suggested it as staff agm is less work. I never said I was resigning from Habbox completely and I made sure I never said that :8 And I would like to think Im on quite a bit, I seem to get through the job quite easily. I dont mean to just disregard the whole rest of the post, but I just thought I would clarify cus am nice.

[Immenseman]

she posts in music but it was the only one i can think of because from whaT i hear all other manages are 12-15 years of age

None of them are suitable which is why nvr had to take it. That's the wrong decision too though. No managers (department wise) really integrate with the community in terms of posting and getting involved in and around the forum. They have to bite the bullet and appoint someone controversial, -:Undertaker:-, GommeInc, FlyingJesus, MattG. Just a few names who I personally think would do a good job.

Personally this is what I would do:

GM - split between the next few for the time being. just have jin in charge for the last word type thing
AGM content - infrequent
AGM staff - Sammeth.
AGM community - MattGarner
Forum Manager - Garion
Assistant Forum Manager - Robbie/Invincible

his obviously isn't me just saying friends names (obv as i put oli there ;l ) as I don't talk to the majority of those people. I think Matt would be much better as AGM Community. He is suited to the role. Obviously, that's just me and I have no influence whatsoever. That would work better in my opinion.

edit; ok sam. didn't know that was the plan.

[Sammeth.]

to be fair I would really like FlyingJesus to be part of higher management as he always has a very fair and well thought out approach to things and the thought process behind his points are always logical. He also was promised a job when that pointless community department closed down but nothing came to fruition (I dont know if I used that word in the right context, but its such a cute word).