Infractions

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Originally Posted by Jin

PSS: Moan and grumble as people may but the only reason as to why they are moaning and grumbling is because they now know they have been given a warning as oppose to the usernote system when they were ignorant.

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That answered a huge question which I can't explain :P

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Originally Posted by Jin

On the old usernote system users were suppose to be alerted of them via PM especially if they had offended before. But unfortunatly the mods grew weary of the effort they had to make to just warn one user which is why infractions are a benefit as it all can be done from one page.

The infraction system = the hip youngster of usernotes

Allow me to explain,

Previously we use to use the usernote system, when this system was introduced and a user commited an offence we would log it in the usernotes and PM the user. Unfortunatly around november 2005 mods grew weary of the tedious task of pming the user.

Now the problem with this was that a user lets say "user A" who hasnt read the rules would post something, their post would be edited by a mod and a usernote would be logged and thats the end of the warning process.

Now userA isnt aware he/she has broken a rule so userA does the same thing again, and they get warned again in the same way as before. UserA is still oblivious of the fact that he/she has been warned twice now as userA cant view the usernotes about his/hers account.

Before long userA gets a suprising message that they have been banned for continuous rule breaking. It is frustrating which I believe we can all agree at times from the hotel, when you have been banned for something you arent even aware of. Unfortunatly in these cases appealing the ban gets you no where and you will need to wait the forum ban to end.

The advantage of the infraction system is that it is used in the same way as the usernotes system it logs the offence and a moderator contacts you at the same time.

BUT now users are no longer ignorant to their offences, they are aware of what they have done to recieve the infraction, they know what post / thread it was given on and they are even contacted with a more elaborate explanation as to why they have been infracted.

I would just like to add:

ALL infractions are permanent, this is so the infraction always exists like the usernotes we use to use.

The points have no meaning other than a simple count of how many infractions you have.

Mods have no control over infraction length or point value.

If you have collected a few infractions it doesnt make our mods harsh or you a bad person, It just means you may have done something wrong like posted in the wrong forum (by accident maybe) or had a large signature image. It is purely and simply a way that the forum staff can keep log of all the warnings given to you and so that you are aware of the warnings you have recieved.

PS: Infraction system means people are less likely to be banned for reasons beyond them.

PSS: Moan and grumble as people may but the only reason as to why they are moaning and grumbling is because they now know they have been given a warning as oppose to the usernote system when they were ignorant.

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Well said!

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Originally Posted by Jin

On the old usernote system users were suppose to be alerted of them via PM especially if they had offended before. But unfortunatly the mods grew weary of the effort they had to make to just warn one user which is why infractions are a benefit as it all can be done from one page.

The infraction system = the hip youngster of usernotes

Allow me to explain,

Previously we use to use the usernote system, when this system was introduced and a user commited an offence we would log it in the usernotes and PM the user. Unfortunatly around november 2005 mods grew weary of the tedious task of pming the user.

Now the problem with this was that a user lets say "user A" who hasnt read the rules would post something, their post would be edited by a mod and a usernote would be logged and thats the end of the warning process.

Now userA isnt aware he/she has broken a rule so userA does the same thing again, and they get warned again in the same way as before. UserA is still oblivious of the fact that he/she has been warned twice now as userA cant view the usernotes about his/hers account.

Before long userA gets a suprising message that they have been banned for continuous rule breaking. It is frustrating which I believe we can all agree at times from the hotel, when you have been banned for something you arent even aware of. Unfortunatly in these cases appealing the ban gets you no where and you will need to wait the forum ban to end.

The advantage of the infraction system is that it is used in the same way as the usernotes system it logs the offence and a moderator contacts you at the same time.

BUT now users are no longer ignorant to their offences, they are aware of what they have done to recieve the infraction, they know what post / thread it was given on and they are even contacted with a more elaborate explanation as to why they have been infracted.

I would just like to add:

ALL infractions are permanent, this is so the infraction always exists like the usernotes we use to use.

The points have no meaning other than a simple count of how many infractions you have.

Mods have no control over infraction length or point value.

The infraction warnings such as "Spamming / Pointless Posting" are all pre-defined, moderators can not edit these this is why we also PM you to elaborate on the warning.

If you have collected a few infractions it doesnt make our mods harsh or you a bad person, It just means you may have done something wrong like posted in the wrong forum (by accident maybe) or had a large signature image. It is purely and simply a way that the forum staff can keep log of all the warnings given to you and so that you are aware of the warnings you have recieved.

PS: Infraction system means people are less likely to be banned for reasons beyond them.

PSS: Moan and grumble as people may but the only reason as to why they are moaning and grumbling is because they now know they have been given a warning as oppose to the usernote system when they were ignorant.

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ye but it makes da page look ugly lol

By that if you are reffering to the list of infractions under your Rep I do agree it looks rubbish. But sometime soon it may be made as a separate page.

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Originally Posted by Stealth

I made a thread about this before you did, I agree etc but I think infractions can be kept but changes made to it.

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As a moderator I know inverse my comments, the infraction system is great.

i want usernote back! BECAUSE THEN IT DUSN'T MAKE UR BIT UNDER POSTS LOOK UGLY AND U REP PAGE! staff still PM you anyway, its stupid.

EDIT; stealth, only because you can give them and you won't get them having you been a mod, so caN'T REALLY ASK YOU :) YE U CN STILL GET EM BUT UNLIIKELY.

OH YE SEPARATE PAGE AS JIN SAID, YE I HEARD DAT PUT DA INFRACTIONS BUT UNDER POSTS AND I SAID FURTHER UP IN MA POST!

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Originally Posted by :LuckyDude

i want usernote back! BECAUSE THEN IT DUSN'T MAKE UR BIT UNDER POSTS LOOK UGLY AND U REP PAGE! staff still PM you anyway, its stupid.

EDIT; stealth, only because you can give them and you won't get them having you been a mod, so caN'T REALLY ASK YOU :) YE U CN STILL GET EM BUT UNLIIKELY.

OH YE SEPARATE PAGE AS JIN SAID, YE I HEARD DAT PUT DA INFRACTIONS BUT UNDER POTS AND i SAID FURHER UP IN MA POST!

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I liked the infraction system before I was a mod, after Jin explained it to me.
and I never get infractions/usernotes anyway, If I had a usernote and it was made into an infraction I wouldn't be too bothered :s

you say its JUST an infaction, the thing is, if u get alot then you get a bann so its hardly JUST an infraction.

I prefer usernotes too.... and as soon as I made a thread with pretty much the same point in Spam like a good boy who won't get any infravctions for posting it anywhere else, I realized this thread was made.

EternalMasque is the Infractionator.
Aswell as my ex-boyfriend.