10% is hardly insignificant.Quote:
Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
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10% is hardly insignificant.Quote:
Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
90% should now pay more for the 10%? Or change our menus for the 10%? To hell with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chippiewill
When immigrants come into a country, the rules should be very clear. That the customs and laws of that country will not be changed for the new arrivals and that they are expected to integrate with the French or find an alternative themselves. Is that waycist? Or just common sense?
Do you not understand how taxes work? NOTHING IS FAIR. Taxes are in NO WAY a get what you give system. Young people pour in way more money than they take out, and old people take out more money than they ever even put in.Quote:
Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
Take MOT for instance. Lorries deal fourty THOUSAND times the amount of damage that a car does to the roads, they don't pay a proportional amount of MOT though.
It's not a matter of fairness, nor a matter of cost. It's a matter of reasonable ethics. And yes, in fact, it does make you a bad person to think otherwise.
Yes I know how taxes work, indeed I just explained that in my edit regarding how it costs more per head of Muslim/Jewish kids by simple economics as schools buy food in bulk and if they're having to buy seperate food for a minority of kids then it's costing them more per head for those select few pupils. That ain't a fair system, but obviously you disagree!Quote:
Originally Posted by Chippiewill
Oh it's ethics is it? aka pandering.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chippiewill
Okay so, are the University of East London wrong to ban the Islamic conference on the basis that the meeting was to be seperated along religious lines with men and women sitting seperately? Would it be acceptable in your eyes for a Muslim majority school to ban gay relationships on state property? See, I don't think any of that should be pandered to and that they should be told - no, you integrate WITH US and not the other way around and we will not ever ever accept the changing of our customs and values to please the vocal minority. But evidently you think differently and they we should be 'compassionate' and 'understanding' and bend over backwards. Just like Islamic countries bend over backwards for other minorities, ey. :rolleyes:
I'm sorry but i've had enough of this self-loathing garbage. Screw your made-up ethics, in France you do it the French way or it's the highway.
Indeed, and in this day in age with allergies or special dietary requirements, it's usually common sense to make your own anyway. If you have no allergies or special dietary requirements, and are happy to eat literally anything you shouldn't have a problem, especially when school menus are simple for children anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
Exactly, and to be honest I don't actually think most moderate Muslims or Jews would have a problem with it. Just as I wouldn't be shocked if I moved to India and had curry on the school menu for my kids, or moved to Spain and had paella on the menu. I wouldn't demand the menu be changed to accomodate my British cuisine tastes, nor would I expect them to change it for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by GommeInc
It's like the comment I read and wrote out earlier where somebody recalled having Jewish kids in the school, and on pork days they just brought their own stuff in: being culturally sensitive and respectful to what is a Christian country.
Much of the pandering and concern/worry for 'offending' comes from white liberals. :P
Well to be fair paella or curry tend to not alter the meat or do anything outrageous to it, although if you don't care this is irrelevant and you could scoff yourself on curry and paella until your heart's content :PQuote:
Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
It wouldn't surprise me if it is white liberals. The Christmas stamp controversy was made by an OTT liberal think-group, that seeing Jesus, the Manger and Santa was offensive. When Muslims went on television they praised the Christian event because it teaches something Islam doesn't and can easily be transferred to being neutral and not necessarily religious (good will, peace, happiness and friendship etc.) Also, what are the children having which contains pork? They could just not eat the pork - vegetarians would be told the same thing. That said, France isn't exactly a hotbed for vegetarians :P
I couldn't agree with you more!Quote:
Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
good heavens above
the French really really hate anything religious in schools, don't they?
Given the free movement of people, if anyone is against the French way of life you could just go to Belgium, the Netherlands, Spain or Germany :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Kyle