The French shall eat as one, says Marine Le Pen

[Chippiewill]

The idea that the taxpayer should be paying so that a few Jewish or Muslim kids in the school can have it their way is ridiculous and French voters agree with me. The question is this: do the majority of the French pander and change their customs (or pay more) for a minority?

10% is hardly insignificant.

[-:Undertaker:-]

10% is hardly insignificant.

90% should now pay more for the 10%? Or change our menus for the 10%? To hell with that.

When immigrants come into a country, the rules should be very clear. That the customs and laws of that country will not be changed for the new arrivals and that they are expected to integrate with the French or find an alternative themselves. Is that waycist? Or just common sense?

[Chippiewill]

90% should now pay more for the 10%? Or change our menus for the 10%? To hell with that.

Do you not understand how taxes work? NOTHING IS FAIR. Taxes are in NO WAY a get what you give system. Young people pour in way more money than they take out, and old people take out more money than they ever even put in.

Take MOT for instance. Lorries deal fourty THOUSAND times the amount of damage that a car does to the roads, they don't pay a proportional amount of MOT though.

It's not a matter of fairness, nor a matter of cost. It's a matter of reasonable ethics. And yes, in fact, it does make you a bad person to think otherwise.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Do you not understand how taxes work? NOTHING IS FAIR. Taxes are in NO WAY a get what you give system. Young people pour in way more money than they take out, and old people take out more money than they ever even put in.

Take MOT for instance. Lorries deal fourty THOUSAND times the amount of damage that a car does to the roads, they don't pay a proportional amount of MOT though.

Yes I know how taxes work, indeed I just explained that in my edit regarding how it costs more per head of Muslim/Jewish kids by simple economics as schools buy food in bulk and if they're having to buy seperate food for a minority of kids then it's costing them more per head for those select few pupils. That ain't a fair system, but obviously you disagree!

It's not a matter of fairness, nor a matter of cost. It's a matter of reasonable ethics. And yes, in fact, it does make you a bad person to think otherwise.

Oh it's ethics is it? aka pandering.

Okay so, are the University of East London wrong to ban the Islamic conference on the basis that the meeting was to be seperated along religious lines with men and women sitting seperately? Would it be acceptable in your eyes for a Muslim majority school to ban gay relationships on state property? See, I don't think any of that should be pandered to and that they should be told - no, you integrate WITH US and not the other way around and we will not ever ever accept the changing of our customs and values to please the vocal minority. But evidently you think differently and they we should be 'compassionate' and 'understanding' and bend over backwards. Just like Islamic countries bend over backwards for other minorities, ey. :rolleyes:

I'm sorry but i've had enough of this self-loathing garbage. Screw your made-up ethics, in France you do it the French way or it's the highway.

[GommeInc]

That costs money though, which I think is the main reason the Front National have done this.

I would have quite liked curry & curly chips everyday at school, but hey I had to make do. As you say - don't like the menu? Bring your own stuff.

Indeed, and in this day in age with allergies or special dietary requirements, it's usually common sense to make your own anyway. If you have no allergies or special dietary requirements, and are happy to eat literally anything you shouldn't have a problem, especially when school menus are simple for children anyway.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Indeed, and in this day in age with allergies or special dietary requirements, it's usually common sense to make your own anyway. If you have no allergies or special dietary requirements, and are happy to eat literally anything you shouldn't have a problem, especially when school menus are simple for children anyway.

Exactly, and to be honest I don't actually think most moderate Muslims or Jews would have a problem with it. Just as I wouldn't be shocked if I moved to India and had curry on the school menu for my kids, or moved to Spain and had paella on the menu. I wouldn't demand the menu be changed to accomodate my British cuisine tastes, nor would I expect them to change it for me.

It's like the comment I read and wrote out earlier where somebody recalled having Jewish kids in the school, and on pork days they just brought their own stuff in: being culturally sensitive and respectful to what is a Christian country.

Much of the pandering and concern/worry for 'offending' comes from white liberals.

[GommeInc]

Exactly, and to be honest I don't actually think most moderate Muslims or Jews would have a problem with it. Just as I wouldn't be shocked if I moved to India and had curry on the school menu for my kids, or moved to Spain and had paella on the menu. I wouldn't demand the menu be changed to accomodate my British cuisine tastes, nor would I expect them to change it for me.

Much of the pandering and concern/worry for 'offending' comes from white liberals.

Well to be fair paella or curry tend to not alter the meat or do anything outrageous to it, although if you don't care this is irrelevant and you could scoff yourself on curry and paella until your heart's content

It wouldn't surprise me if it is white liberals. The Christmas stamp controversy was made by an OTT liberal think-group, that seeing Jesus, the Manger and Santa was offensive. When Muslims went on television they praised the Christian event because it teaches something Islam doesn't and can easily be transferred to being neutral and not necessarily religious (good will, peace, happiness and friendship etc.) Also, what are the children having which contains pork? They could just not eat the pork - vegetarians would be told the same thing. That said, France isn't exactly a hotbed for vegetarians

[Zak]

You come to Britain? Fine, but you adopt and abide by British customs and traditions and thereby become British in time. The majority should not be forced to pander to a minority.

I couldn't agree with you more!

[Kyle]

good heavens above

the French really really hate anything religious in schools, don't they?

[GommeInc]

good heavens above

the French really really hate anything religious in schools, don't they?

Given the free movement of people, if anyone is against the French way of life you could just go to Belgium, the Netherlands, Spain or Germany