Fergies drink problems confirmed

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Originally Posted by lBlue

You clearly have no understanding of the game.

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I may not know more about the game than you, but I know more about business. Al-Fahim is a clever chap from his move with Portsmouth. He has brought together a bunch of investors who have paid for the club. This will save Al-Fahim a shed load of money, that he can the INVEST into the club. I'm looking forward to the transfer window in regards to Portsmouth.

Al-Fahim has spent over 100mil on players for City, and recent results show that the only decent purchase was Ade. (So far)

Al-Fahim will probably take either Executive Shareholder, or Lead Investor for Portsmouth, meaning he doesn't OWN the club, only having shares/investment powers.

Clever, yaaa. :8

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Originally Posted by Excellent2

I may not know more about the game than you, but I know more about business. Al-Fahim is a clever chap from his move with Portsmouth. He has brought together a bunch of investors who have paid for the club. This will save Al-Fahim a shed load of money, that he can the INVEST into the club. I'm looking forward to the transfer window in regards to Portsmouth.

Al-Fahim has spent over 100mil on players for City, and recent results show that the only decent purchase was Ade. (So far)

Al-Fahim will probably take either Executive Shareholder, or Lead Investor for Portsmouth, meaning he doesn't OWN the club, only having shares/investment powers.

Clever, yaaa. :8

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Mate I know **** all about business, and I could have told you that.

Ade only decent signing? don't make me laugh, you really are making yourself out to be a bit of a numpty, along with Clowngon.

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Originally Posted by Excellent2

I may not know more about the game than you, but I know more about business. Al-Fahim is a clever chap from his move with Portsmouth. He has brought together a bunch of investors who have paid for the club. This will save Al-Fahim a shed load of money, that he can the INVEST into the club. I'm looking forward to the transfer window in regards to Portsmouth.

Al-Fahim has spent over 100mil on players for City, and recent results show that the only decent purchase was Ade. (So far)

Al-Fahim will probably take either Executive Shareholder, or Lead Investor for Portsmouth, meaning he doesn't OWN the club, only having shares/investment powers.

Clever, yaaa. :8

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How can you say you know anything about business when Sheikh Mansour bin Al Nahyan is our owner? Al-Fahim holds no role at my club...

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Originally Posted by lBlue

How can you say you know anything about business when Sheikh Mansour bin Al Nahyan is our owner? Al-Fahim holds no role at my club...

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I didn't read it properly on Wiki. I didn't read the part where it says "However, before the take over was completed, wealthy backer Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan became a more prominent figure, and it became unclear whether Al-Fahim would join the board at Manchester City"

Just out of curiousity.. can a company who has brought one club, have another?

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Originally Posted by Excellent2

I may not know more about the game than you, but I know more about business. Al-Fahim is a clever chap from his move with Portsmouth. He has brought together a bunch of investors who have paid for the club. This will save Al-Fahim a shed load of money, that he can the INVEST into the club. I'm looking forward to the transfer window in regards to Portsmouth.

Al-Fahim has spent over 100mil on players for City, and recent results show that the only decent purchase was Ade. (So far)

Al-Fahim will probably take either Executive Shareholder, or Lead Investor for Portsmouth, meaning he doesn't OWN the club, only having shares/investment powers.

Clever, yaaa. :8

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Originally Posted by Excellent2

I didn't read it properly on Wiki. I didn't read the part where it says "However, before the take over was completed, wealthy backer Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan became a more prominent figure, and it became unclear whether Al-Fahim would join the board at Manchester City"

Just out of curiousity.. can a company who has brought one club, have another?

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No they can't. Has the penny finally dropped?

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Originally Posted by lBlue

No they can't. Has the penny finally dropped?

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So then surely, parts of my 2nd to last post still stands?

"Surprisingly" it seems that i have got it wrong. :o :rolleyes:

His name was linked to both Portsmouth and City takeovers so i thought it was the same man. Oh dear. :(

Al-Fahim is nowhere near as rich as the people who took over Man City, he is actually a laughingstock in Dubai with his own X-factor type show, he's also been building houses which have been taking a long time to finish, I think it's because he has been messing around and not having enough money. So no, the owners of Man City have nothing to do with Portsmouth so why would it be their money going into that club?

The only connection Al-Fahim has with our club, was that he was advertising what our owners were going to do. He was merely an advertisement for City, and he was trying to excite the world about the takeover by over-exaggerating and being stupid (top four this season, premier league the next). Our owners probably had a go at him for saying that, as that is no-where near what our targets currently are (building a squad last season, competing for top six this season, top four next season) Our owners had told him that what he was done talking about our takeover, he would not be apart of our club/board. So why are you trying to link us with Portsmouth if he has no connection to our club anymore? I wish other supporters would stop trying to put us City fans down, as this is the best time of our lives, so let us enjoy it please?

United don't need midfielders, they need wingers or strikers

United have Giggs, Nani and Valencia on the wing, they don't really need another one but they may buy Silva, and that wouldn't surprise me if that was a big last day signing. They need a new RB as they don't have an out and out RB that is good enough. They also could do with with someone in attack, maybe a striker or attacking midfielder as they have Carrick, Hargreaves and Fletcher who are all very much CDM's, and more tacklers then shooters. V.D.Vaart would have been good but he's staying at Madrid.

Newspaper's said a couple of days ago that Fergie was going to make a deadline day bid for Robben. He would be a good signing.. We need someone like Ronaldo who is fast and can make/provide goals... Hopefully Robben if he does come, can provide that.

For Rooney to score goals he needs support and he isn't quite getting that atm.

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Originally Posted by BoomItsClowgon

Newspaper's said a couple of days ago that Fergie was going to make a deadline day bid for Robben. He would be a good signing.. We need someone like Ronaldo who is fast and can make/provide goals... Hopefully Robben if he does come, can provide that.

For Rooney to score goals he needs support and he isn't quite getting that atm.

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Robben signed for Bayern Munich last week :P

:O Did he? Damn.

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Originally Posted by BoomItsClowgon

:O Did he? Damn.

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Yeah, shame because I think he would have done well with Ronaldo at Real. £22 Million for him though which is a good price. He scored twice in his debut for Bayern too.

o my. Should of went for him. Could of filled in the Boots of Giggs.

But one of the Papers said Fergie was only prepared to pay 12 - 15 Million for him so i don't think he would of payed 22 Million for him tbh. We still need someone in midfield.. someone who can inspire the team, were lacking it. but most importantly, someone who can create goal scoring opportunity's for us.

If we don't sign anyone else then our next game against Spurs will be interesting.

I suppose that leaves the door open for Ribery to join Real then? I wouldn't be surprised if they signed him today tbh the way Real's been spending lately nothings predictable.

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Originally Posted by Jack.Lfc

Ronaldo, Kaka. But ireland signing of the summer.

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I said PL signing of the summer. I didn't count Ronaldo, as he's left, but I'd count it if it was the other way around. :eusa_danc

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Originally Posted by TheWolf

Adebayor, Tevez, and Toure.

Maybe Barry, but Lescott isn't.

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Lescott is a better investment than Toure, definately.

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Originally Posted by BoomItsClowgon

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. No one in City is worth 100k a week apart from Tevez and Robinho... Adbye geting there...

City Owners are wasting their money... Well i suppose that's what you do when your worth Billions and Billions and you make Millions and Millions each day...

Investing in United would of been a more sensible option.

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Nah there needs to be a chance for a return. There's no chance of that with United. You can't possibly build the biggest English club up to be more than it already is.

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Originally Posted by ElliotNewton

United don't need midfielders, they need wingers or strikers

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Rooney -- Berba
Nani -- Carrick -- Fletcher -- Valencia
Evra -- Ferdinand -- Vidic -- O'Shea
VDS

I'd say all the positions in red are up for grabs. Berba or Owen? Nani, Giggs or Tosic? Fletcher, Scholes, Hargreaves (when fit), Anderson or Giggs? O'Shea, Brown or Neville?

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Originally Posted by BoomItsClowgon

o my. Should of went for him. Could of filled in the Boots of Giggs.

But one of the Papers said Fergie was only prepared to pay 12 - 15 Million for him so i don't think he would of payed 22 Million for him tbh. We still need someone in midfield.. someone who can inspire the team, were lacking it. but most importantly, someone who can create goal scoring opportunity's for us.

If we don't sign anyone else then our next game against Spurs will be interesting.

I suppose that leaves the door open for Ribery to join Real then? I wouldn't be surprised if they signed him today tbh the way Real's been spending lately nothings predictable.

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Doubt it. Bayern manager said that he wants Robben and Ribery to play together and that is what he wanted from the beggining. Watching the match they played very well with each other. Also, Bayern want £70 Million for him, which Madrid won't pay.

EDIT: I agree with the post above, well the last part. They need a new RB and they were chasing Lahm for numberous years, but apparently he doesn't want to leave Munich. Also, I think they need someone to replace Fletcher, as that is where they are lacking. Carrick and Fletcher are both defensive, they need someone attacking there. Also, I think Nani deserves a chance, he has shown he has talent, just needs the chance to show it more. Berba, not sure about.

I also agree about the RB. I also agree about the CM. Carrick is amazing for possession play and defence. We'd need someone like Lampard, who runs all around the pitch and gets in those key areas.

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Originally Posted by CHA!NGANG

Doubt it. Bayern manager said that he wants Robben and Ribery to play together and that is what he wanted from the beggining. Watching the match they played very well with each other. Also, Bayern want £70 Million for him, which Madrid won't pay.

EDIT: I agree with the post above, well the last part. They need a new RB and they were chasing Lahm for numberous years, but apparently he doesn't want to leave Munich. Also, I think they need someone to replace Fletcher, as that is where they are lacking. Carrick and Fletcher are both defensive, they need someone attacking there. Also, I think Nani deserves a chance, he has shown he has talent, just needs the chance to show it more. Berba, not sure about.

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Oh. Real said they did some sort of deal, similar to Ronaldo that in "Principal" they will sign Ribery next season.

Ye we deffo need a RB. Fletcher is a bit "over-rated" to me tbh. In the last few games he's missed clear goal scoring opportunity's, that any player should be scoring..

I haven't seen Silva play tbh, so i don't know if he's the player who would fit the key to our team.

But i think we need someone in the central position, bit like lamps and Gerrard. Someone who is the anchor of the team. Carrick is not really providing that.

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Originally Posted by Excellent2

I also agree about the RB. I also agree about the CM. Carrick is amazing for possession play and defence. We'd need someone like Lampard, who runs all around the pitch and gets in those key areas.

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I think we should make a cheeky 20 mill bid for Lamps. :P

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Originally Posted by BoomItsClowgon

Oh. Real said they did some sort of deal, similar to Ronaldo that in "Principal" they will sign Ribery next season.

Ye we deffo need a RB. Fletcher is a bit "over-rated" to me tbh. In the last few games he's missed clear goal scoring opportunity's, that any player should be scoring..

I haven't seen Silva play tbh, so i don't know if he's the player who would fit the key to our team.

But i think we need someone in the central position, bit like lamps and Gerrard. Someone who is the anchor of the team. Carrick is not really providing that.

I think we should make a cheeky 20 mill bid for Lamps. :P

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Lol, I doubt he'd ever move to united. I've seen Silva a couple times, he's good. Reminds me a bit of Rosicky for some reason, he likes to float around the middle as well as go wide and is a good passer and has a good shot on him. Personally I think United should make a bid for either, Silva, Bastian Schweinsteiger or maybe even V.D.Vaart. V.D.Vaart would suit them I think even though he said he's staying at Madrid you never know. Also, Bastian might not be needed at Munich as they have Robben and Ribery. They really should have gone for Sneijder.

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Originally Posted by CHA!NGANG

Lol, I doubt he'd ever move to united. I've seen Silva a couple times, he's good. Reminds me a bit of Rosicky for some reason, he likes to float around the middle as well as go wide and is a good passer and has a good shot on him. Personally I think United should make a bid for either, Silva, Bastian Schweinsteiger or maybe even V.D.Vaart. V.D.Vaart would suit them I think even though he said he's staying at Madrid you never know. Also, Bastian might not be needed at Munich as they have Robben and Ribery. They really should have gone for Sneijder.

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You never know. :eusa_danc

Ye, I've seen Van Der Vart and Sneijer play (Mostly for their Countries) and they are both deadly players, and they are really good with set-pieces. A player of their caliber is what we need.

If nothing happens then i hope Nani and Valencia can provide on the flanks. They will be important for us this season.

But ye, if we don't sign anyone else this summer then let's just see how things go...

20mil? You're off your rocker.

Lescott wern't even the best defender at everton.

People go on 17 mil for johnson bla bla but he offers more than lescott.

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Originally Posted by Jack.Lfc

Lescott wern't even the best defender at everton.

People go on 17 mil for johnson bla bla but he offers more than lescott.

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TBH, I think Johnson is worth aorund the £15 Million mark. Cole was that price roughly when he moved to Chelsea from Arsenal and I think that Johnson has potential to be equally as good or even better than Cole. He provides that extra width that is good for Liverpool. Plus, good Full backs are hard to come by.

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Originally Posted by BoomItsClowgon

But i think we need someone in the central position, bit like lamps and Gerrard. Someone who is the anchor of the team. Carrick is not really providing that.



I think we should make a cheeky 20 mill bid for Lamps. :P

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No, Carrick is the anchor, he holds the play down, but you need someone to make the game flow. Get attacks moving. Before, it worked because you could have two CDM with Giggs and Ronaldo being given complete freedom up the wings. Now Giggs is older and Ronaldo has left you need a new plan. You need a Lampard or a Gerrard to get attacks going.

20 million? Oh my days.

20 mil? No way. Munich want 70 mil for Ribery. We'd be looking at 30-50 mil for lamps.

United should look at James Milner. He's versatile, he can play on the wing, and in centre. Excellent vision and passing. He can play on both wings as well. So he can fill in on the left flank, and in the CM position, next to Carrick. He was beginning to get groomed into a CM role last season anyway. And for the RB role, O'Neill's contract with WHU has run out this summer, so United could nab a solid RB for free.

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Originally Posted by Browney

United should look at James Milner. He's versatile, he can play on the wing, and in centre. Excellent vision and passing. He can play on both wings as well. So he can fill in on the left flank, and in the CM position, next to Carrick. He was beginning to get groomed into a CM role last season anyway. And for the RB role, O'Neill's contract with WHU has run out this summer, so United could nab a solid RB for free.

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I was thinking about Milner. He's an amazing talent. Iniesta would be my dream CM.

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Originally Posted by Excellent2

I was thinking about Milner. He's an amazing talent. Iniesta would be my dream CM.

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Xavi/Messi also.

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Originally Posted by Excellent2

I was thinking about Milner. He's an amazing talent. Iniesta would be my dream CM.

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Absolutley. But FCB would never let him go, and if they did, just imagine how much they'd want.

Iniesta will probably never leave Barca, well not in the near future seeing as he is a homegrown player, and he is with the best team in the world so I doubt he'd want to move anywhere else. My dream CM would be Xavi/Iniesta/Fabregas/Gerrard/Essien or Lamps. Quite a long list there lol. Milner would be good but it might take a season or two for him to reach his peak and be a key player for United, and they really need someone this season.

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Originally Posted by CHA!NGANG

Iniesta will probably never leave Barca, well not in the near future seeing as he is a homegrown player, and he is with the best team in the world so I doubt he'd want to move anywhere else. My dream CM would be Xavi/Iniesta/Fabregas/Gerrard/Essien or Lamps. Quite a long list there lol. Milner would be good but it might take a season or two for him to reach his peak and be a key player for United, and they really need someone this season.

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I disagree. I think Scholes and Giggs can fill those roles this season, but next season United will be at panic stations. Though, by next season, Nani, Tosic and Rafael may have hit form so I don't know.

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Originally Posted by Browney

I disagree. I think Scholes and Giggs can fill those roles this season, but next season United will be at panic stations. Though, by next season, Nani, Tosic and Rafael may have hit form so I don't know.

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I expect United to sign a big player in the Winter transfer window (IMO They need a couple of wingers and a striker), same with Chelsea, as they will have Mikel, Drogba, Kalou, and some other African players out because of the African Cup of Nations, I expect Liverpool to strengthen also in the Winter, and well, Man City, wouldn't surprise me if they tried to buy Real Madrids whole team. :rolleyes: -sarcasm-

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Originally Posted by Browney

I disagree. I think Scholes and Giggs can fill those roles this season, but next season United will be at panic stations. Though, by next season, Nani, Tosic and Rafael may have hit form so I don't know.

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I think Scholes and Giggs are still decent players, but as you've seen from the start of the season, man u are lacking in something. Nani I think will hit form this season, but it's not a winger that they need really its a good centre mid that's attacking. The have: Nani, Giggs, Valencia and Tosic who are all wingers. Rafael won't be good enough for the first team for a good few seasons. He's only what, 18/19 and he will be good but not first team quality yet. If they sign a new RB then they could get through till January but I think they should sign a new CM and RB.

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