Sexuality Thread 2.0

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Originally Posted by Zyzz

2 males making love would be like 2 north poles of a magnet attracting each other. It goes against science. North poles are attracted to south poles just like men are attracted to woman and vice versa.

If you're going to sit here and try to tell me that being attracted to the same sex is human then you should just leave.

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You chat some crap dont you, its a persons feelings and decisions how can you think that is inhuman.. :/

Sorry for being late in my response, but id thought id post my opinion :S

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Originally Posted by Woodseh

You chat some crap dont you, its a persons feelings and decisions how can you think that is inhuman.. :/

Sorry for being late in my response, but id thought id post my opinion :S

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A very good and valid opinion it is, don't apologise

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Originally Posted by Nick.

Oh please, pipe down. Morality, hygiene? Seriously.


The Oxford Dictionary defines homophobia as 'an extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuality and homosexual people.', the definition of aversion is 'a strong dislike or disinclination' so you are wrong anyway. The Oxford Dictionary is correct, you are not. In the past it meant a fear, but it doesn't now, not in its common form. You just see the word phobia and jump to uneducated conclusions.

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Well either way, the word homophobe gets thrown at anyone who does not agree with homosexuality to label them the bad guys. When really they are just forward-thinking individuals that have a basic understanding on what we humans are here for and how we are here. Homosexuality goes against both those understandings.

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Originally Posted by Zyzz

Well either way, the word homophobe gets thrown at anyone who does not agree with homosexuality to label them the bad guys. When really they are just forward-thinking individuals that have a basic understanding on what we humans are here for and how we are here. Homosexuality goes against both those understandings.

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Your understandings on what we are here for are ancient. It's the 21st Century, get used to it.

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Originally Posted by Nick.

Oh please, pipe down. Morality, hygiene? Seriously.

The Oxford Dictionary defines homophobia as 'an extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuality and homosexual people.', the definition of aversion is 'a strong dislike or disinclination' so you are wrong anyway. The Oxford Dictionary is correct, you are not. In the past it meant a fear, but it doesn't now, not in its common form. You just see the word phobia and jump to uneducated conclusions.

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Actually I know what a phobia is even if some homosexuals and the pro-gay 'rights' lobby have hijacked the word to shout down anybody who does not approve of their lifestyle or sexuality. If you want to debate homosexuality properly and prove him wrong, then playing the homophobia card just shows you all up as a group of reactionaries who label opponents of their idea/lifestyle as mentally backward - that isn't how you win a debate rather it prove the opposite. It's chilling to note that in an ironic twist, despotic regimes label homosexuals as mentally backward - do not do it to the other side.

He has a view; do not label him as mentally beneath you just because you do not agree.

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Originally Posted by Judas

Oh please just give it a rest with the technicalities. I already addressed this in an earlier post in another thread which you conveniently ignored. I don't care what it's called, everyone knows what is meant by it who cares if the "phobia" part is technically wrong. Write to the dictionaries if you actually care that much, I for one certainly don't so pipe down.

He is a HOMOPHOBE.

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He does not, as far as we can see, have an irrational fear of homosexuals. He is however opposing homosexuality on the grounds which he has listed, now if you think him to be wrong (as I myself do) then prove him wrong rather than throwing around words which do not apply to him.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

He does not, as far as we can see, have an irrational fear of homosexuals. He is however opposing homosexuality on the grounds which he has listed, now if you think him to be wrong (as I myself do) then prove him wrong rather than throwing around words which do not apply to him.

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Are you actually reading my posts? Clearly not. I am not suggesting he has an "irrational fear" of homosexuals, though it is plausible I suppose, I can't see why someone would be so opposed to something that doesn't actually have anything to do with them in the slightest. I am using the term "homophobe" for the purpose of the argument, as I can't be bothered to type out "someone who is opposed to homosexuality" each time. I have made this clear and don't need to justify myself to you or anyone else, everyone knows what is meant by it. Give up :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Judas

Are you actually reading my posts? Clearly not. I am not suggesting he has an "irrational fear" of homosexuals, though it is plausible I suppose, I can't see why someone would be so opposed to something that doesn't actually have anything to do with them in the slightest. I am using the term "homophobe" for the purpose of the argument, as I can't be bothered to type out "someone who is opposed to homosexuality" each time. I have made this clear and don't need to justify myself to you or anyone else, everyone knows what is meant by it. Give up :rolleyes:

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Then you shouldn't use the same tactics (labelling the opposition as mentally backward with words like homophobia) as those who are the most ardent opponents to the idea of 'minding your own business' ie the Islamic Republic of Iran. As I said earlier, i'm on your side in this argument but if yourself and others are going to use words like homophobia to dismiss arguments on homosexuality then that will be taken to task.

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Originally Posted by Judas

I am using the term "homophobe" for the purpose of the argument, as I can't be bothered to type out "someone who is opposed to homosexuality" each time.

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Being opposed to homosexuality is not homophobia and shouldn't be dismissed as such.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

Then you shouldn't use the same tactics (labelling the opposition as mentally backward with words like homophobia) as those who are the most ardent opponents to the idea of 'minding your own business' ie the Islamic Republic of Iran. As I said earlier, i'm on your side in this argument but if yourself and others are going to use words like homophobia to dismiss arguments on homosexuality then that will be taken to task.

Being opposed to homosexuality is not homophobia and shouldn't be dismissed as such.

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ho·mo·pho·bi·a/ˌhōməˈfōbēə/
Noun: An extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuality and homosexual people.

ho·mo·pho·bi·a   
[hoh-muh-foh-bee-uh] Show IPA
–noun
unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals and homosexuality.

Adj. 1. homophobic - prejudiced against homosexual people

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Originally Posted by Judas

ho·mo·pho·bi·a/ˌhōməˈfōbēə/
Noun: An extreme and irrational aversion to homosexuality and homosexual people.

ho·mo·pho·bi·a   
[hoh-muh-foh-bee-uh] Show IPA
–noun
unreasoning fear of or antipathy toward homosexuals and homosexuality.

Adj. 1. homophobic - prejudiced against homosexual people

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Because as I said earlier, the word has been hijacked just as 'Islamophobia' was created to silence those who oppose Islam on good grounds. But thats clear then, that the best you can do in response to arguments against homosexuality is label your opposition as mentally backward.

Just in the same way that one of the biggest opponents of homosexuality, the Islamic Republic of Iran, labels homosexuals as. Pot. Kettle springs to mind. It simply reeks of intolerance (the same 'intolerance' many homosexuals can't stop complaining about, no doubt yourself included) when you simply label people who disagree with you as mentally beneath you.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

Because as I said earlier, the word has been hijacked just as 'Islamophobia' was created to silence those who oppose Islam on good grounds. But thats clear then, that the best you can do in response to arguments against homosexuality is label your opposition as mentally backward.

Just in the same way that one of the biggest opponents of homosexuality, the Islamic Republic of Iran, labels homosexuals as. Pot. Kettle springs to mind. It simply reeks of intolerance (the same 'intolerance' many homosexuals can't stop complaining about, no doubt yourself included) when you simply label people who disagree with you as mentally beneath you.

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Because I am a homosexual.... :rolleyes: Kind of ignorant.

I've already said what my view on the matter is and I'm not going to repeat myself any further as you keep doing. Until you change the dictionary definition of the word I will continue to use it, but until then, thanks for your effort and time.