More / Better Moderators needed.

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Originally Posted by opensourcehost

:P I can't help it, I have to give my opinion in detail, at least I don't post pointlessly, eh?



Yes I agree on this, however as I was saying 6 people can't give a overview of how the whole forum feels. Either Habbox should continue just having people post in this forum with ideas of they would have to think of an easy way that the councillors could address certain groups of people and how they would collect ideas and work out exactly what the majority of people want. At the end of the day you'd have to pick people who could take on board other peoples view with maturity and would also have to be able to keep their own personal feeling out of the way of the majority of the members ideas and feelings as we want the majorities ideas, not 6 people. If we couldn't find a way that these 6 people could represent the certain areas of the forum then there would be no point in having them as it would just be the same as the management making decisions as it would be a handful of people deciding on things rather than the members of the forum making those decisions. I'm not sure if this would work as look at the way counties in the UK work at the moment although they have councils to represent the area people still complain that their views are ignored even when the majority agree on something as at the end of the day it comes down to the councillors decision over the public which in some respects destroys the idea of getting the members/public to express their opinions. Not everyone can make decisions but some can suggest ideas which is what this forum is for at the moment. Unless the council members were perfect for the job, had great communication with the public and did not let their own views come into it this probably wouldn't work. Along with the fact at the end of the day there needs to be a decision maker and people are not always going to agree if they make the decision that is best for Habbox as some people may see things differently. This would turn the focus of this forum and looking at the majorities view like the management does at the moment into look at the councils view which I'm sure wouldn't make everyone happy as I'm sure lots of people would disagree with whoever was picked no matter who they are.

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Much as I agree with some of your points nobody is perfect. The safe way would be to say no and keep the status quo. The more adventurous way which could give some positive results is to give it a try and see what happens. it can always be given a trial . Members picked by management/applications would not really be seen as the way to go I don't think as people would always shout 'fix' or 'bum licker'. The fairest way would be to get members to nominate other members and give the reasons why and see how may people support them. A short list could then be drawn up. Also I think that canvassing/giving people furni/rep etc should be forbidden.

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Originally Posted by Lycan

You have just as much as a chance as anyone on this forum.

lets not get into discussing who would make a good member and who woudn't.

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Everybody who isn't banned has the same amount of chance.

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Originally Posted by Lycan

Jay, if such a council way is good enough and works well enough in real life it can surely work on a forum were issues arn't as serrious

IN Theory council would be similar to Habbox expert on HabboxWorld, which you run, the only difference being that people are voted instead of you getting to choose. people will moan ether way with a council they may moan less, but there is no real wa of finding out without trying. if you are too lazy to actually attempt this Jay, thats fine... but the determination of myself Hollywood and others should be enough to get this started off working, and if it doesn't work out it can easily be dispanded.

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Problem is councils don't alway work in real life as lots of the time not many people agree. You get people constantly criticising governments and councils alike and people who feel their ideas are being ignored. What I run on HabboxWorld is for ideas and a general department which is required as HabboxWorld is a growing forum. Habbox UK however is a massive forum and not everyone can have their ideas listen to. If a council was ran I can imagine it would make things better because at the end of the day someone has to make a decision. You guys moan that the management don't give you enough freedom to express your ideas or listen, well thats what you would feel if we had a council however it would be more aimed at the councillor as at the end of the day someone draws the line and makes the decision regardless of what people say because thats who the world functions. The only way you'd feel happy is if you were the councillor as that is how it would turn out to function. Maybe it would be better if there was a specific job to reply with management decisions to this forum and feelings, rather than a council just someone who is specifically hired to address comments and ideas in this forum as people complain it takes the management time to reply and they ignore ideas? I'm not sure really but personally I don't see the council as the way forward.

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Originally Posted by Catzsy

Much as I agree with some of your points nobody is perfect. The safe way would be to say no and keep the status quo. The more adventurous way which could give some positive results is to give it a try and see what happens. it can always be given a trial . Members picked by management/applications would not really be seen as the way to go I don't think as people would always shout 'fix' or 'bum licker'. The fairest way would be to get members to nominate other members and give the reasons why and see how may people support them. A short list could then be drawn up. Also I thnk that canvassing/giving people furni/rep etc should be forbidden.

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I laughed when i read through your post, but i completly agree with what you said (as i said something similar several pages back) , wonder if i can rep you.... *checks*

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Originally Posted by opensourcehost

Problem is councils don't alway work in real life as lots of the time not many people agree. You get people constantly criticising governments and councils alike and people who feel their ideas are being ignored. What I run on HabboxWorld is for ideas and a general department which is required as HabboxWorld is a growing forum. Habbox UK however is a massive forum and not everyone can have their ideas listen to. If a council was ran I can imagine it would make things better because at the end of the day someone has to make a decision. You guys moan that the management don't give you enough freedom to express your ideas or listen, well thats what you would feel if we had a council however it would be more aimed at the councillor as at the end of the day someone draws the line and makes the decision regardless of what people say because thats who the world functions. The only way you'd feel happy is if you were the councillor as that is how it would turn out to function. Maybe it would be better if there was a specific job to reply with management decisions to this forum and feelings, rather than a council just someone who is specifically hired to address comments and ideas in this forum as people complain it takes the management time to reply and they ignore ideas? I'm not sure really but personally I don't see the council as the way forward.

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Jay this would be getting members more involved and could stop the most complaining into 'being quiet' because they understand the process more and can easily get there voices heard, if you don't want members to have a say in the forum in such a way... then ok, your view has been noted

Catzsy, Garion and Smiddy would make great members.

Applications would be the best option i think. If 20 people notimate user1, and user1 doesnt wanna be in the council, then its pointless.

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Originally Posted by Catzsy

Much as I agree with some of your points nobody is perfect. The safe way would be to say no and keep the status quo. The more adventurous way which could give some positive results is to give it a try and see what happens. it can always be given a trial . Members picked by management/applications would not really be seen as the way to go I don't think as people would always shout 'fix' or 'bum licker'. The fairest way would be to get members to nominate other members and give the reasons why and see how may people support them. A short list could then be drawn up. Also I think that canvassing/giving people furni/rep etc should be forbidden.

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It happens with moderators and any other staff, this is why MAD would pick 10 users and staf then the public would vote from them, 6 each or how ever many. Giving it a fair vote for MAD and the public.

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Originally Posted by Lycan

I laughed when i read through your post, but i completly agree with what you said (as i said something similar several pages back) , wonder if i can rep you.... *checks*

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Off-topic I know- Sorry I skipped a few pages. Sorry to duplicate :)

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Originally Posted by Saurav

Catzsy, Garion and Smiddy would make great members.

Applications would be the best option i think. If 20 people notimate user1, and user1 doesnt wanna be in the council, then its pointless.

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then user2 would get in the council instead of user1 as user2 has 19 noinations ... it may take time and effort but it would get there, i'm personally up to putting alot of time into getting this going

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Originally Posted by Hollywood

It happens with moderators and any other staff, this is why MAD would pick 10 users and staf then the public would vote from them, 6 each or how ever many. Giving it a fair vote for MAD and the public.

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LOL:D This is a members council - the Prime Minister doesn't chose the MPs - they are voted for. The cabinet (Staff) are chosen by him.

I swear my last 3 posts have just been ignored :[