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Thats called democracy, thats why we have so many different political parties with different ideas and solutions. On benefits, i'm not even going there because its pretty clear to everyone exactly what is wrong with benefits given our financial situation, and also the morality of some of the people on benefits.
What does this country stand for then Jake - soft on crime?
On UKIP, do not make them out to be liars. If they break their promises i'll join you in calling them liars, but as it stands only Labour has broken its promises and the Conservatives under Cameron have broken their promise to hold a referendum. If UKIP gained office they would hold referendums on important issues such as the European Union and the death penalty, period. It is a fundemental part of their Conservative beliefs. Anyway, you seem pretty sure about people not voting in the death penalty, then surely you wouldn't mind holding a referendum on it?
Because people are sick to death of criminals getting away with disgusting crimes, was it not you anyway who wanted to smash a few lads faces in who were robbing your shop/your own families shop? - if so, then don't preach to me about two wrongs don't make a right. You disagree with the death penalty and so do many others, I agree with it and so do many others - so lets allow the British public to choose whether or not they wish for the death penalty to be brought back because afterall they were never given the choice whether or not to keep it or scrap it.
Agree to the idea that a a referendum on it is right then, polls have shown the majority of people do want it back. On UKIP, no totally wrong again and reverting to insults now are you? - not very professional at all and doesn't put your point across very well at all. UKIP want to hold referendums on a national level on issues such as the European Union and the death penalty, this of couse would be a big event in which every political party would argue their case in a series of debates on shows such as Question Time. The people would then go out and vote after they have made their decision. UKIP probably would support bringing back the death penalty and would campaign on that, but would not push anything like this through parliament as the government would be legally required to hold referendums on important issues such as the death penalty.
On a local level referendums would also be held, do you want a new park or a leisure centre are so forth - meaning the community have a say in the way their community is shaped. You say referendums are a waste of money, but then say you would vote Labour. I'm not sure about everybody else, but I can certainly see the hypocritical side to that statement.