Who should win the next General Election? [ENDS 07/02/2010]

[Seatherny]

People who have taken the survey, and said "UKIP has the highest percentage so I will vote for them" make me laugh. Use your own brains and think for yourself instead of listening to a quiz.
Its pathetic.

Anyway UKIP are a "dream party". They say all the right things - well the things majority of the British public want to hear. Why? They know they will never be in power so they can say what the hell they like and they never need to worry - because they will never have to implement it.

Conservatives are a big no no. If they propose to cut benefits, then they don't deserve to be in power.

I shall be voting Labour.

The problem is, if there is ANY problem at all, people instantly blame the government. Most of the time, it isnt even the government's fault.

Oh nooo! They closed down the local care home. Blame Mr. Brown for not coming over and saying to the council SPEND MILLIONS ON THIS NOW.
:rolleyes:

The day Conservatives get in power will be a sad day for this country.

[Immenseman]

It would be awful in your opinion Jake, and thats what I am getting at and what UKIP are getting at. It is not you who should decide, it is not the unelected left who should decide - it is the people who should decide. As shown again by your post, you cannot seem to accept what people want. You continue to support a political elite who are out of touch and you also now appear to support a Federal Europe in the name of 'diversity' - well i'm sorry, the words diversity and uniting are mere subsitutes for big government and dictatoral policy.

Just accept that the people should decide how they live and how their future will stem, that afterall is why we fought two world wars and a cold war for that very right.

If people genuinely wanted the death penalty to come back then that's scrapping everything this country stands for. Unlike you to want to sell this great country down the river However, I have faith that people wouldn't vote for it to come back if push came to shove. In fact, I doubt UKIP would even hold a referendum on it - they're like the tories, they'll break their promises. Anyway, it doesn't matter because UKIP won't come into power in our life time. People say they want it to come back to be controversial and different, if they actually had to vote and it was becoming realistic then they'd soon go back on what they said. Again, like the tories.

[Seatherny]

Why on earth would any party want to bring back the Dealth Penalty?
Why party got rid of it and when?

[Immenseman]

They don't necessarily want to bring it back, they just want the public to have their say and decide whether it should come back, which is stupid and inhumane.

[Seatherny]

They don't necessarily want to bring it back, they just want the public to have their say and decide whether it should come back, which is stupid and inhumane.

Who? Just UKIP or Conservatives too?

Either way, I think its obvious that the majority of the country doesn't want it back, so whichever party it is, they would be wasting money.

And it seems to be that UKIP want a referendum on like pretty much everything big rofl :S Their leader must be a moron who cant make decisions for himself then.
Hey everyone vote for me but I am not really a leader because I am too stupid to make decisions myself. I will waste money on a referendum for everything

[Tash.]

Why on earth would any party want to bring back the Dealth Penalty?
Why party got rid of it and when?

The last hangings were in 1964 and it was abolished in 1969 in GB. Labour were in power at this time.

[Seatherny]

The main road in Manchester which links to the airport was closed today. I BLAME THE GOVERNMENT AND THEREFORE I BLAME LABOUR. THAT BROWN DUDE SHOULD HAVE COME AND SAID OPEN THIS DAMN ROAD! But nooo, he is too busy looking at more important things such as war, taxes, how to help the overall country.

:rolleyes:

[jackass]

People who have taken the survey, and said "UKIP has the highest percentage so I will vote for them" make me laugh. Use your own brains and think for yourself instead of listening to a quiz.
Its pathetic.

Actually, I already wanted UKIP to win the election, due to I agree with the majority of their policies - the survey was just confirming that.

[-:Undertaker:-]

People who have taken the survey, and said "UKIP has the highest percentage so I will vote for them" make me laugh. Use your own brains and think for yourself instead of listening to a quiz.
Its pathetic.

Anyway UKIP are a "dream party". They say all the right things - well the things majority of the British public want to hear. Why? They know they will never be in power so they can say what the hell they like and they never need to worry - because they will never have to implement it.

Conservatives are a big no no. If they propose to cut benefits, then they don't deserve to be in power.

I shall be voting Labour.

The problem is, if there is ANY problem at all, people instantly blame the government. Most of the time, it isnt even the government's fault.

Oh nooo! They closed down the local care home. Blame Mr. Brown for not coming over and saying to the council SPEND MILLIONS ON THIS NOW.
:rolleyes:

The day Conservatives get in power will be a sad day for this country.

Thats called democracy, thats why we have so many different political parties with different ideas and solutions. On benefits, i'm not even going there because its pretty clear to everyone exactly what is wrong with benefits given our financial situation, and also the morality of some of the people on benefits.

If people genuinely wanted the death penalty to come back then that's scrapping everything this country stands for. Unlike you to want to sell this great country down the river However, I have faith that people wouldn't vote for it to come back if push came to shove. In fact, I doubt UKIP would even hold a referendum on it - they're like the tories, they'll break their promises. Anyway, it doesn't matter because UKIP won't come into power in our life time. People say they want it to come back to be controversial and different, if they actually had to vote and it was becoming realistic then they'd soon go back on what they said. Again, like the tories.

What does this country stand for then Jake - soft on crime with violent criminals being released after a few years in our so-called 'prisons'? - I know Labour stands for that, but nobody I have ever met has stood for that, infact not even Labour supporters.

On UKIP, do not make them out to be liars. If they break their promises i'll join you in calling them liars, but as it stands only Labour has broken its promises and the Conservatives under Cameron have broken their promise to hold a referendum. If UKIP gained office they would hold referendums on important issues such as the European Union and the death penalty, period. It is a fundemental part of their Conservative beliefs. Anyway, you seem pretty sure about people not voting in the death penalty, then surely you wouldn't mind holding a referendum on it?

Why on earth would any party want to bring back the Dealth Penalty?
Why party got rid of it and when?

Because people are sick to death of criminals getting away with disgusting crimes, was it not you anyway who wanted to smash a few lads faces in who were robbing your shop/your own families shop? - if so, then don't preach to me about two wrongs don't make a right. You disagree with the death penalty and so do many others, I agree with it and so do many others - so lets allow the British public to choose whether or not they wish for the death penalty to be brought back because afterall they were never given the choice whether or not to keep it or scrap it.

Who? Just UKIP or Conservatives too?

Either way, I think its obvious that the majority of the country doesn't want it back, so whichever party it is, they would be wasting money.

And it seems to be that UKIP want a referendum on like pretty much everything big rofl :S Their leader must be a moron who cant make decisions for himself then.
Hey everyone vote for me but I am not really a leader because I am too stupid to make decisions myself. I will waste money on a referendum for everything

Agree to the idea that a a referendum on it is right then, polls have shown the majority of people do want it back. On UKIP, no totally wrong again and reverting to insults now? - not very professional in a debate at all and doesn't put your point across very well either. UKIP want to hold referendums on a national level on issues such as the European Union and the death penalty, this of couse would be a big event in which every political party would argue their case in a series of debates on shows such as Question Time. The people would then go out and vote after they have made their decision. UKIP probably would support bringing back the death penalty and would campaign on that, but would not push anything like this through parliament as the government would be legally required to hold referendums on important issues such as the death penalty.

On a local level referendums would also be held, do you want a new park or a leisure centre built(?) & so forth - meaning the community have a say in the way their community is shaped. You say referendums are a waste of money, but then say you would vote Labour. I'm not sure about everybody else, but I can certainly see the hypocritical side to that statement.

And it seems to be that UKIP want a referendum on like pretty much everything big rofl :S Their leader must be a moron who cant make decisions for himself then.
Hey everyone vote for me but I am not really a leader because I am too stupid to make decisions myself.

Are you actually being serious there or are you messing around?

[Seatherny]

Thats called democracy, thats why we have so many different political parties with different ideas and solutions. On benefits, i'm not even going there because its pretty clear to everyone exactly what is wrong with benefits given our financial situation, and also the morality of some of the people on benefits.



What does this country stand for then Jake - soft on crime?

On UKIP, do not make them out to be liars. If they break their promises i'll join you in calling them liars, but as it stands only Labour has broken its promises and the Conservatives under Cameron have broken their promise to hold a referendum. If UKIP gained office they would hold referendums on important issues such as the European Union and the death penalty, period. It is a fundemental part of their Conservative beliefs. Anyway, you seem pretty sure about people not voting in the death penalty, then surely you wouldn't mind holding a referendum on it?



Because people are sick to death of criminals getting away with disgusting crimes, was it not you anyway who wanted to smash a few lads faces in who were robbing your shop/your own families shop? - if so, then don't preach to me about two wrongs don't make a right. You disagree with the death penalty and so do many others, I agree with it and so do many others - so lets allow the British public to choose whether or not they wish for the death penalty to be brought back because afterall they were never given the choice whether or not to keep it or scrap it.



Agree to the idea that a a referendum on it is right then, polls have shown the majority of people do want it back. On UKIP, no totally wrong again and reverting to insults now are you? - not very professional at all and doesn't put your point across very well at all. UKIP want to hold referendums on a national level on issues such as the European Union and the death penalty, this of couse would be a big event in which every political party would argue their case in a series of debates on shows such as Question Time. The people would then go out and vote after they have made their decision. UKIP probably would support bringing back the death penalty and would campaign on that, but would not push anything like this through parliament as the government would be legally required to hold referendums on important issues such as the death penalty.

On a local level referendums would also be held, do you want a new park or a leisure centre are so forth - meaning the community have a say in the way their community is shaped. You say referendums are a waste of money, but then say you would vote Labour. I'm not sure about everybody else, but I can certainly see the hypocritical side to that statement.

Not my shop. I didn't beat them up. It was someone elses shop and I was telling a story. Shows how much attention you pay.
Anyway punishing someone by beating them up is very different to the death penalty. If you disagree then I don't even see the point in ever replying to your posts as it shows your lack of understand in things.

If you were wrongly accused of murder and faced the death penalty, I am sure you would still support it in full, wouldn't you?

Referendums for a local leisure center etc? Oh myyy! What a waste of money. If the MP or PM cant make their own decisions and cant tell what the community / country really wants, they shouldn't be MP. Ergo, UKIP aren't in power and never will be. They cant make their own decisions.