REPUTATION OR LIKE SYSTEM

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Originally Posted by Kardan

The tokens/credit idea is pretty much a great idea. Rep in competitions and events is so, so pointless. Why enter a competition where you could get 25/50/100 rep, if you are picked from the 10/20/30 people that enter - when you can just make a half decent joke and get 150 rep points :P

The only reason to reduce rep power is to keep the system somewhat manageable. Right now it looks like FJ is doubly as awesome as everyone single else, and whilst he probably is, soon he'll be madly high :P

All that needs adjusting is the 'Every 400 rep points = 1 rep power' changing to 800-1000 or something.

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frankly your suggestion only positively affects those repped by higher-level rep holders and for those that rarely if ever receive rep from people above 10 rep power it's just going to be an even longer struggle to reach a respectably high level.

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Originally Posted by Kyle

frankly your suggestion only positively affects those repped by higher-level rep holders and for those that rarely if ever receive rep from people above 10 rep power it's just going to be an even longer struggle to reach a respectably high level.

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But by the time they reach a respectably high level anyway, it won't be a respectably high level, because when you hit 50 rep power, everyone else is at 1,000 :P So new people will never win :P

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Originally Posted by Inseriousity.

You voted for it so I'm assuming you agree it's a flaw then? The apparently made me think you don't necessarily believe what you're saying and just stating an argument (a not very detailed one either. why is it a flaw? isn't it working exactly as it should?) but your vote would suggest otherwise hence the confusion.

Just for the sake of argument that it is a flaw and it's why a like system should be introduced, the only solution then would be to have a clean slate (especially if Kardan's idea of the like system comes into effect) otherwise it's just the same thing with a different name. Personally I like knowing why someone liked/didn't like a post so I'd prefer the rep system.

I don't think it really is a flaw though. If anything, it's a strength that there's a system in place that recognises loyalty and commitment (those with high rep power have naturally been here the longest) and while bringing it down won't change that, it just seems a bit of a kneejerk reaction to something that isn't really making that much of a difference to said system.

Just refreshed and Kardan disagrees, is there any proof of that?

It is true that reputation in competitions and events makes little difference. In fact, when general management previously tried to introduce a rep quota back when I was competitions manager, I was adamant this was the case. The introduction of a rep quota seemed to be about the quantity rather than how much said quantity was spread around. 1000 rep a month sounds like a lot (this is an example number btw, never seen any department give away this much) but if it was spread around 150 people then its suddenly not so much after all. After several months, this message eventually got through and it was disbanded.

Despite that, I did actually consider the idea of having tokens as prizes instead of rep and then adding credit prizes to the token system. It'd need to be heavily controlled otherwise it'd be very expensive but I think it'd be a better advertising tool for events. instead of 'whats rep' and then them not caring bout getting rep on a forum, it'd be 'whats tokens' and then 'tokens on hxf where you can earn enough and get creds' sounds more enticing. It just needs a strong structure to support it and get the balance right between not being too out of reach that no-one bothers but not being too low that Habbox becomes bankrupt. This is definitely something I'd still try and put in place.

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Not sure if this was to me, as you didn't quote me? However, I will reply in full if so. Nevertheless, my vote is one that tries to meet middle ground, without the need for a like system. Personally, I wouldn't mind if the current system stays as it is - HOWEVER, it will eventually (and fairly soon) get out of hand, so will clearly need fixing. And if this post was at me, believe me - I wouldn't waste my time arguing a point for the sake of arguing a point I didn't believe it :L

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Originally Posted by Kyle

rep system/like system should just be the same thing, it's the exact same premise anyways. if anything i would propose abolishing rep power as a form of currency and instead have the amount of rep you've received displayed... essentially a like system under the guise of 'reputation'.

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That would only work if you abolished rep power completely (ie. 1 +Rep = 1 rep shows up, not FJ reps someone, and adds 73 rep to someones score).

This was my first though though; I don't really see why some members are SO in favour of a rep system, or SO in favour of a like system - ultimately, both can be tweaked to make everyone happy.

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Originally Posted by sex

it shows publically who liked your posts
i think lots of people agreed the best thing about rep is seeing lots of the little plus rep things you get on a post not the number on yur profile/points you get
like system would give us that+shw people who liked a post

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Could this not be done with the rep system anyway? I'd be surprised if it couldn't.

I think a like system would be good

New users may not understand 'rep' *I certainly didn't at the beginning* but due to facebook etc I think people will understand what it is more and make the forum more easier to use for new users, pehaps making them stick around longer

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Originally Posted by sex

it shows publically who liked your posts
i think lots of people agreed the best thing about rep is seeing lots of the little plus rep things you get on a post not the number on yur profile/points you get
like system would give us that+shw people who liked a post

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Surely there must be a way of just tacking that on to the current system, it obviously records who's given rep because it shows in userCP and won't allow people to rep the same post twice so guessing it's just a matter of making it send the info to the postbit rather than (or as well as) userCP rather than either having multiple systems or destroying one that doesn't need destroying

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Originally Posted by Kyle

rep system/like system should just be the same thing, it's the exact same premise anyways. if anything i would propose abolishing rep power as a form of currency and instead have the amount of rep you've received displayed... essentially a like system under the guise of 'reputation'.

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So keep all rep so far but everyone's rep power is set and stuck to 1... cool good luck anyone who wants to catch up with me in future

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Originally Posted by Kardan

Right now it looks like FJ is doubly as awesome as everyone single else, and whilst he probably is, soon he'll be madly high :P

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No I won't it's a school night

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Originally Posted by Marketing

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That would only work if you abolished rep power completely (ie. 1 +Rep = 1 rep shows up, not FJ reps someone, and adds 73 rep to someones score).

This was my first though though; I don't really see why some members are SO in favour of a rep system, or SO in favour of a like system - ultimately, both can be tweaked to make everyone happy.

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rep power should remain on the profile just as a counter of how many times you've been repped. that way rep isn't altogether pointless and the most 'respected' members are still displayed, just don't hold a monopoly over who gets how much rep.

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Originally Posted by FlyingJesus

Surely there must be a way of just tacking that on to the current system, it obviously records who's given rep because it shows in userCP and won't allow people to rep the same post twice so guessing it's just a matter of making it send the info to the postbit rather than (or as well as) userCP rather than either having multiple systems or destroying one that doesn't need destroying



So keep all rep so far but everyone's rep power is set and stuck to 1... cool good luck anyone who wants to catch up with me in future



No I won't it's a school night

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Have all the reps!

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Originally Posted by Kyle

rep power should remain on the profile just as a counter of how many times you've been repped. that way rep isn't altogether pointless and the most 'respected' members are still displayed, just don't hold a monopoly over who gets how much rep.

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To be fair, I would like to keep the current system with rep powers adjusted, but I'd rather see rep points on the profile rather than rep power.

This does seem a good idea.. just add to the post bit who repped what post.

/Thread? :L

I said this somewhere recently I think but can't remember where - I think it was in managers group. I'd like a Like system, but at the same time I'd like to keep rep. I think if there was a way to change the current reputation button in to two separate buttons, one for like and one for dislike - and then a red counter added to show dislikes/-reps like the current green one. And then on top of this, lower rep powers (by a lot - maybe cap rep power at 5 or something) and then remove limits so we can +/- as much as we want.

Alternatively, enforce limits but only for these:
- liking/disliking the same person a lot
- disliking a lot
i wouldn't personally put a limit on liking loads of posts. And the reason I suggested lowering rep power so dramatically is that it'd mean we could have the least limits possible while still keeping the system fair. Then remove the reporting reputation as it'd be unnecessary and maybe let everyone see who liked/disliked their posts.

Sorry this is a rushed post and I haven't had time to read the responses prior to this, but basically what I'm suggesting (again) if a system which reforms the rep system in to something with resembles more of a like system whilst keeping all our current rep points :).

I think I'd prefer a like system where rep is converted into likes!