Being born Gay

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16-09-2009, 07:32 AM
Fart

Lmao@ this
Its different genes to straight people, cant control it.
16-09-2009, 02:12 PM
FlyingJesus

You say that as though you believe that genes are the only thing beyond our control
16-09-2009, 02:38 PM
RandomManJay

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Originally Posted by FlyingJesus

You say that as though you believe that genes are the only thing beyond our control

I couldn't tell is he was LMAOing at the genes thing or if he was serious.
16-09-2009, 05:40 PM
Jorc

I believe people are born gay, why would you choose to be hated by practically everyone? just for fun? Def born with it.
16-09-2009, 05:59 PM
Immenseman

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Originally Posted by Jorc

I believe people are born gay, why would you choose to be hated by practically everyone? just for fun? Def born with it.

being gay isn't some sort of medical condition y'kno.

i don't think you're born gay but rather it's more to do with your upbringing.
16-09-2009, 06:03 PM
Black_Apalachi

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Originally Posted by FlyingJesus

[...] Actually it's in support of neither as it was a medical mistake - he still had the chemical makeup of a male despite not having a penis. There's no proof that bringing up a boy in female way (ie: in dresses playing with dolls) will make anyone gay, it's just stereotyping that suggests gay males are effeminate

It's prefect support for the nature debate because it agrees with the bold :S.
16-09-2009, 08:05 PM
Technologic

In my mind Homosexuals are gay, Gays are homosexual and that's all that matters.

If people choose to be gay, fine.
If people are born gay, fine.
If their surroundings make people gay, fine.

Some people are gay, get over it
16-09-2009, 10:04 PM
Kardan

I think it's more social upbringing rather than biological and genetic, but thats an opinion from a straight male, so not much use really.

I can't really see how it's genetic though, assuming it's the same prinicipal as something such as hair colour then:

Our parents would each have two chromosomes of sexuality, each one either being straight, bisexual, gay and the millions of other possibilies. Assuming that being straight is dominant over the gay gene (Since it's fair to say there are a lot more straight people in the world than gay, just like there are a lot more brown haired people than ginger, since ginger is resessive)...

That means, for a person to be born gay, they're mother and father must have one gay gene and one other gene (presumably straight since they've gave birth to a child, but with technology these days it's not neccessarily true) and that each parent passed down their gay gene to give the child two chromosomes: gay and gay - to make them born gay?

Although if it is genetics, it is perfectly possible that a person can be born gay from straight parents, assuming the gene is recessive - just like how I'm ginger and neither of my parents are ginger.

Personally it seems unrealistic to me it's like that, sexuality is psychological, so it's a state of mind and preference, for example if you like marmite or not - rather than some physical, if you have brown or blue eyes. Just my opinion.
16-09-2009, 10:28 PM
RandomManJay

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Originally Posted by Kardan

I think it's more social upbringing rather than biological and genetic, but thats an opinion from a straight male, so not much use really.

I can't really see how it's genetic though, assuming it's the same prinicipal as something such as hair colour then:

Our parents would each have two chromosomes of sexuality, each one either being straight, bisexual, gay and the millions of other possibilies. Assuming that being straight is dominant over the gay gene (Since it's fair to say there are a lot more straight people in the world than gay, just like there are a lot more brown haired people than ginger, since ginger is resessive)...

That means, for a person to be born gay, they're mother and father must have one gay gene and one other gene (presumably straight since they've gave birth to a child, but with technology these days it's not neccessarily true) and that each parent passed down their gay gene to give the child two chromosomes: gay and gay - to make them born gay?

Although if it is genetics, it is perfectly possible that a person can be born gay from straight parents, assuming the gene is recessive - just like how I'm ginger and neither of my parents are ginger.

Personally it seems unrealistic to me it's like that, sexuality is psychological, so it's a state of mind and preference, for example if you like marmite or not - rather than some physical, if you have brown or blue eyes. Just my opinion.

Don't assume that biology is the same as genetics, genetics is a section of biology which is considered as an explanation for sexuality, there are still many other sections to biology which is considered as an explanation, like brain development during pregnancy and physiological differences within the brain (such as shape or neurological processes and impulses), all of which genetics only holds the base blueprints for the creation and holds no impact on how it develops or what occurs during after birth. So biology and social influences can play equal parts in the explanation of sexuality, but if biology is the base, it means that society determines whether or not your sexuality will become known to you.
16-09-2009, 10:30 PM
UKIP

Would anyone like to explain what the parents of the gay penguins did to make them gay?
16-09-2009, 10:33 PM
Kardan

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Originally Posted by iSarcastix

Don't assume that biology is the same as genetics, genetics is a section of biology which is considered as an explanation for sexuality, there are still many other sections to biology which is considered as an explanation, like brain development during pregnancy and physiological differences within the brain (such as shape or neurological processes and impulses), all of which genetics only holds the base blueprints for the creation and holds no impact on how it develops or what occurs during after birth. So biology and social influences can play equal parts in the explanation of sexuality, but if biology is the base, it means that society determines whether or not your sexuality will become known to you.

Hmm, yeah, that sounds about right :P

But I think it's about social upbringing rather than the actual DNA of a person, and that sexuality isn't determined at birth.
16-09-2009, 10:36 PM
RandomManJay

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Originally Posted by Kardan

Hmm, yeah, that sounds about right :P

But I think it's about social upbringing rather than the actual DNA of a person, and that sexuality isn't determined at birth.

I agree with you there, if there was only two sides to the arguement, DNA or Society, I would agree with society, I think its impossible for there to be a 'gay gene' considering we would have already found it and theres no knowing who is gay and who is straight until they tell us etc. :P.
29-09-2009, 12:09 AM
Xoim

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Originally Posted by iSarcastix

I agree with you there, if there was only two sides to the arguement, DNA or Society, I would agree with society, I think its impossible for there to be a 'gay gene' considering we would have already found it and theres no knowing who is gay and who is straight until they tell us etc. :P.

I'm bi, but like I realised that not so long ago ALOT off my friends started coming out...
LOL!
But yeah its who your with and what your surroundings are like.

Kinda weird :L
08-02-2010, 09:49 PM
TickTockTickTock

I don't think so.

edit; oops thought i was in this thread http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=627127 sorry.

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