Are people born gay or is it a free choice?

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Originally Posted by Dean

No, people are not born homosexual. Homosexuality is an effect of your environment, surroundings and people really. I guess a lot of factors can determine wether or not you'll be homosexual or not later on in life. I would say it's similar to learning as no one really knows anything from birth, so what you do as a baby/child will probably impact your views on life and what people you desire. Some may disagree but that's the only logical reason in my mind.

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You can't really state that as fact; because it's not. The truth is no one really knows; it could be both. But I am gay and I can say for certain I have always been so. I therefore accept I WAS born homosexual. My environment had nothing to do with it. My Brothers grew up in exactly the same environment as myself and they aren't gay. You either like the same sex or you don't. With your argument you could just as easily say no one is born hetrosexual and it is the environment they grow up in that makes them straight.

- Are people born homosexual, or is it a free choice?

I'd say if they are truely gay and not going through a phase like most these teen girls saying they're bi then they're born like it, messed up testosterone and oestroggeowggg levels

- Why are people homophobic, are they hiding their own sexuality?

Probably raised around an idea like religious tools

- Is it socially acceptable to be homosexual?
This generation I guess people are accepting it, it's more of the older/religious people who are homophobic and chavs

why would people who grow up in such homophobic country's where being gay is punishable by death choose to be gay, surely their environment wouldn't make they gay either since there is a strong stance against it?

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Originally Posted by :Cerys

That was only an example - don't take it to heart. What I'm saying is it's the environment that effects it. I was just giving a stereotypical example so even the dumbest of people could understand. Clearly there's people dumber out there.

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Originally Posted by dbgtz

I'd say she's sort of right. Considering most tap dancers are likely be girls, I think the influence from them could influence your sexuality in future. Saying that if all tap dancers were boys, I think you would most likely be straight. That's my opinion any way.

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so girls who play football are lesbians
guys who cook are gay
what? neither of these activities involves being brainwashed into believe you're gay or carrying out homosexual activities so how can it make you more likely to be one? enjoying something that isn't homosexual sex doesn't make you homosexual..?


but yeah i agree with people who ask why you'd choose to be gay? it's usually the people who aren't actually gay that will say it's a choice but whose logic would make more sense, the heterosexuals or the homosexuals?

all my first crushes were girls and i've always did generally feminine activities. i didn't fancy guys until i was 14 then i was obsessed with them for quite a while. sometimes i go through phases of preferring females only or preferring males only. it's not like "oh a guy was a **** to me so i'll go back to girls" it's just something that happens but in general i'm equally attracted to both but i definitely started off fancying girls.

i think it can be a mix of both. i was brought up with boys and hung out with girls so that could have 'started' the homosexual tendencies but i still like boys and i know plenty people who have been brought up the same way and remain straight. maybe there's some sort of psychological meaning behind bisexuality (why does no-one ever ask what causes bisexuality? i'm curious lol pun not intended ;l) or homosexuality but meh. i don't see it as a problem. i see it as most likely genetics though, it's seen in animals too so yeah.


i've also read like left handed people or people with a certain index finger:ring finger ratio are more likely to be homosexual. your dominant hand can be caused by genetics or complications in pregnancy, a bit like how some schizophrenia can be caused by the mother having the flu while she's pregnant. sorta makes sense like a bad pregnancy leads to problems with the child - talking about schizophrenia being a problem, not homosexuality as i don't believe it is. so if pregnancy complications leads to left handedness it could also lead to homosexuality and so it's not actually inherited but not from upbringing either, just from pregnancy. wow im bad at explaining

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Originally Posted by buttons

so girls who play football are lesbians
guys who cook are gay
what? neither of these activities involves being brainwashed into believe you're gay or carrying out homosexual activities so how can it make you more likely to be one? enjoying something that isn't homosexual sex doesn't make you homosexual..?


but yeah i agree with people who ask why you'd choose to be gay? it's usually the people who aren't actually gay that will say it's a choice but whose logic would make more sense, the heterosexuals or the homosexuals?

all my first crushes were girls and i've always did generally feminine activities. i didn't fancy guys until i was 14 then i was obsessed with them for quite a while. sometimes i go through phases of preferring females only or preferring males only. it's not like "oh a guy was a **** to me so i'll go back to girls" it's just something that happens but in general i'm equally attracted to both but i definitely started off fancying girls.

i think it can be a mix of both. i was brought up with boys and hung out with girls so that could have 'started' the homosexual tendencies but i still like boys and i know plenty people who have been brought up the same way and remain straight. maybe there's some sort of psychological meaning behind bisexuality (why does no-one ever ask what causes bisexuality? i'm curious lol pun not intended ;l) or homosexuality but meh. i don't see it as a problem. i see it as most likely genetics though, it's seen in animals too so yeah.

i've also read like "left handed people are more likely to be homosexual" or they're more likely to have some sort of ratio from their ring finger and index finger so it could be due to complications in pregnancy just like how schizophrenia can come from flu during pregnancy. so it's not actually INHERITED but not from your upbringing either.

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No, I was trying to say that the influence of a gender and their interests would influence your own.

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Originally Posted by hah

why would people who grow up in such homophobic country's where being gay is punishable by death choose to be gay, surely their environment wouldn't make they gay either since there is a strong stance against it?

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THAT SAID, I JUST SAW SOME GIRL'S TUMBLR WHO CLAIMED SHE HAD "RENOUNCED" BEING WHITE AND IS NOW GOING TO LIVE A LIFE OF OPPRESSION. NOT EVEN A TROLL ACCOUNT

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Originally Posted by dbgtz

No, I was trying to say that the influence of a gender and their interests would influence your own.

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And again, breaking gender roles =/= being gay

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Originally Posted by FlyingJesus

And again, breaking gender roles =/= being gay

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Sorry I didn't realise your opinion was fact.

That isn't an opinion... a male doing something that's typically viewed as being "feminine" definitely does not make him gay, by definition.

brb telling all girls who wear trousers that they're lesbians

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Originally Posted by FlyingJesus

brb telling all girls who wear trousers that they're lesbians

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What if it's a boy? Short hair amongst women is in at the moment, it all gets rather confusing with this stereotype business :(

What do people label as homophobic? I think @hah mentioned it and it got me thinking. Would you say it's any comment or literally when things turn a bit violent and overly hateful? I guess it depends if you believe in passive-homophobia (if such a term makes sense).

Depends if you take it by its intended definition of discriminatory ideas and behaviours towards homosexuals/homosexual acts, or if instead you turn into Dan and focus solely on the word roots of "phobia" and declare it void in order to allow the total dehumanisation of people who do things you don't like doing