Should Immigrants get FREE education?

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

I think its pretty clear; just turn the question around; would any other country allow foreign students to study there for free? - no.

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Well said, its totally wrong. Go to their countries and your are entitles to NOTHING, you break you back in their country, oh its going to cost £20k to have it put right, sorry. They break your back here... well that’s different, have it on the house as well as complimentary benefits, free home, food, clothes, phones + you can stay as long as you like!

This country is a total joke, sort the own education and health systems out before you go letting in thousands of people who aren’t entitled each year.

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Originally Posted by Alkaz

Well said, its totally wrong. Go to their countries and your are entitles to NOTHING, you break you back in their country, oh its going to cost £20k to have it put right, sorry. They break your back here... well that’s different, have it on the house as well as complimentary benefits, free home, food, clothes, phones + you can stay as long as you like!

This country is a total joke, sort the own education and health systems out before you go letting in thousands of people who aren’t entitled each year.

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Depends where they've come from, most European countries and other socialist countries around the world offer nationalised healthcare. I suspect all first world countries offer free education too.

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Originally Posted by HotelUser

Even after they've just gone through the hassle of beginning a citizen of England, we should still treat them like a foreigner, say even though we thought they were genuine enough people to accept in our society we're still going to make them pay for obvious freebies like education? We should make all immigrants pay education fees because 0.05% of them are trying to "steal" education? Seems pretty unfair to that other 99.95%:P

When that immigrant's been in England they're already holding down a job and paying taxes as they're here. Meaning the small fraction of the ones "stealing education" would:
1. Probably already have payed of their child's education fees while paying the various taxes as their child was being educated.
2. When they leave the country they couldn't just take everything they had with them (when they decide to go from a country with a functional government and economic system back to their home country which couldn't even provide a reasonable education, so its probably filled with poverty and other problems), so a lot of their possessions, house/apartment possible car, their job, would be left behind and put back into your economy for other people to take advantage of and profit from.

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I do not care quite frankly what it is like back in their home country, we have enough problems of our own to be dealing with thank you very much. If they don't pay taxes, if they dont work, if they dont plan to stay and if we do not need them, then I couldn't give a damn where they go aslong as its not here.

The points I set out earlier on in the thread are common sense, if you dont fit into that criteria then sorry, people here do not want you.

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Originally Posted by Alkaz

Well said, its totally wrong. Go to their countries and your are entitles to NOTHING, you break you back in their country, oh its going to cost £20k to have it put right, sorry. They break your back here... well that’s different, have it on the house as well as complimentary benefits, free home, food, clothes, phones + you can stay as long as you like!

This country is a total joke, sort the own education and health systems out before you go letting in thousands of people who aren’t entitled each year.

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The amazing thing is that some people here actually support unlimited and uncontrolled immigration, despite crime spewing from it, immigration is the issue and it needs controlling.

you move to france, you get free education, you move to usa/canada i'm sure you get free education.

in some countries there isn't a state-funded education system.

here i'm not sure you get it free, i KNOW international students at my college pay £7k/yr tuition, not totally sure if your family or whatever is setlled in the UK paying tax or whatever.

Who the hell are we to question people's education? That's right, PEOPLE. Like Technologic said, it should be a right not a privilage. If they're in our country then surely we'd do our best to make them have a GOOD education so they can have a GOOD job and contribute to the country, I know that sounds silly (how I put it) but I'd rather have good working, high paid foreign people than lazy ass slums on the street. I'm sorry but to the ignorant people who say that they're stealing jobs, that's just an excuse because they can't be bothered getting off their arse and getting a job themselves, or at least have too bad a record to get accepted for one.

This kinda thing has been around since the Irish moved to Scotland because of the potato blight in 1846 (date wrong?). They were sympathetic at first, but then since the Irish would do the most dirtiest and demotivating jobs for the smallest amount of money (because back in Ireland that amount of money would be a lot) the Scottish started to get angry and annoyed by this. Claiming that they're taking their jobs and they have bad habits etc, just because the Scottish were too proud of themselves to do such jobs. (I am Scottish so let the record show I have nothing against my own country lol, not to mention this was like 100+ years ago).

The minute we start to do things like ban immigrants from having an education is the minute we become inhuman.

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Originally Posted by Lost

Who the hell are we to question people's education? That's right, PEOPLE. Like Technologic said, it should be a right not a privilage. If they're in our country then surely we'd do our best to make them have a GOOD education so they can have a GOOD job and contribute to the country, I know that sounds silly (how I put it) but I'd rather have good working, high paid foreign people than lazy ass slums on the street. I'm sorry but to the ignorant people who say that they're stealing jobs, that's just an excuse because they can't be bothered getting off their arse and getting a job themselves, or at least have too bad a record to get accepted for one.

This kinda thing has been around since the Irish moved to Scotland because of the potato blight in 1846 (date wrong?). They were sympathetic at first, but then since the Irish would do the most dirtiest and demotivating jobs for the smallest amount of money (because back in Ireland that amount of money would be a lot) the Scottish started to get angry and annoyed by this. Claiming that they're taking their jobs and they have bad habits etc, just because the Scottish were too proud of themselves to do such jobs. (I am Scottish so let the record show I have nothing against my own country lol, not to mention this was like 100+ years ago).

The minute we start to do things like ban immigrants from having an education is the minute we become inhuman.

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If we do not need them then we should not educate them, as they should not be here in the first place. We have high unemployment now, and jobs are scare especially in certain areas, so we should only ever allow people we need in.

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Originally Posted by Inseriousity.

If parents are paying taxes then I don't see why not. Although I've never heard of immigrants coming for the education? In my less-than-expert view, it's the parents looking for the work (if the whole family comes over) although this excludes international students for university though :)

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Nahh massive amount of people come over (especially from India I believe) for the education - hence having so many Indian doctors and accountants these days. They're willing to work far harder than most of us to be fair, so why they shouldn't be allowed to learn is beyond me.

Your remarks are wrong. Immigrants aren't causing the recession. A "recession" is when the economy is down for two quarters (a quarter being three months). The financial year starts after april 28th i think.

And btw the downfall of our economy to start with was due to the fall of the lehman brother's in america because america wouldn't bung them a few billion. In our economy it was northern rock next to fall. Then it was RBS - at first they stated they had no actual monies left. They had value (ie - they items, accounts etc worth something but had no actual money to keep them afloat overnight).

And I agree to immigrants getting the same education as us. For free. Simply because as an immigrant they are here legally, should pay tax if they earn and they deserve to be treated as a citizen.

Illegal immigrants should be deported, no matter what. Nevermind free education.

im sorry undertaker, but i didn't realise that we shouldn't give immigrants free education if their parents are paying tax, even though, british kids get free education in the same way.

lighten up a bit
it's not all doom and gloom

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

If we do not need them then we should not educate them, as they should not be here in the first place. We have high unemployment now, and jobs are scare especially in certain areas, so we should only ever allow people we need in.

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Lol it's quite unbelievable how ignorant that reply was.

You have Stalin on your signature marked out with a cross yet this attitude ******* reminds me of him...