Student vandals turn second university fees protest violent

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Originally Posted by The Don

Sorry, what? I thought you had a disability and rely on the nhs? Hypocrit much. It's not the fact it's only 9k extra debt, it's the fact that it's rising when nick clegg said he would support further education.

And it is a big deal robbie, it's double/trippled from what it use to be, that will stop a lot of people going to university and missing out on higher education meaning we will only have wealthy people going to university or people willing to get themselves into debt.

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yeah I have a wheelchair, and I do depend on the NHS to buy my drugs for me (not that it would cost a lot tbh...) but anyway...

The cap will be at £9k and it's not even there till 2012...and I doubt they'll raise it much higher if at all. It may have doubled/tripled but as I've said time and again, it has to double several times over before coming CLOSE to international prices.

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Originally Posted by R0BB13G

yeah I have a wheelchair, and I do depend on the NHS to buy my drugs for me (not that it would cost a lot tbh...) but anyway...

The cap will be at £9k and it's not even there till 2012...and I doubt they'll raise it much higher if at all. It may have doubled/tripled but as I've said time and again, it has to double several times over before coming CLOSE to international prices.

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I think you'd be surprised how much everything costs in private healthcare, if you look across the pond or even in the UKs private hospitals, everything costs a lot.

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Originally Posted by The Don

Sorry, what? I thought you had a disability and rely on the nhs? Hypocrit much. It's not the fact it's only 9k extra debt, it's the fact that it's rising when nick clegg said he would support further education.

And it is a big deal robbie, it's double/trippled from what it use to be, that will stop a lot of people going to university and missing out on higher education meaning we will only have wealthy people going to university or people willing to get themselves into debt.

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Didn't he have a pro-labour signature a few weeks back too or am I thinking of someone else?

I've also always been under the impression if you haven't paid back your student loan by 35 it's cancelled out, might be wrong there though.
Edit: Turns out I've got that wrong, it's 25 years after you took it out that it's wiped. Explained; http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/loa...ans-repay#when

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Originally Posted by Dean

I have met a lot of people around the age of 23-24 and they say that uni was a waste of time, merely because their degree isn't worth anything. They're employed in supermarkets and can't manage to find jobs and live with lots of debt. This is what worries me about uni tbh, especially if fees are due to rise.

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Yeah that is the way it's gone unfortunately, which is part of the reason I chose to study from home rather than go to a campus uni - if it ends up a waste of my time at least I'll just have a degree floating about doing nothing instead of a mound of debt to go with it. Like I say though, with this proposal you don't have to pay anything back at all until you earn over £21k a year, so if you do get stuck in a dead end job you don't technically have the debt :P

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Originally Posted by The Don

that will stop a lot of people going to university and missing out on higher education

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Thereby likely creating a huge number of apprentice/skilled tradesmen and massively increasing our export value as a country while at the same time increasing the value of degrees to the level of esteem they ought to be held in, good point

If you earn over 21 grand a year, Im sure you be fine paying your debt, plus you gotta remember that you pay it in small amount as well. I dont see why people are getting really pissy. Yeh I can understand it a shock that it tripled but my ******* god, you dont have to trash london.

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Originally Posted by Jordy

I think you'd be surprised how much everything costs in private healthcare, if you look across the pond or even in the UKs private hospitals, everything costs a lot.

Didn't he have a pro-labour signature a few weeks back too or am I thinking of someone else?

I've also always been under the impression if you haven't paid back your student loan by 35 it's cancelled out, might be wrong there though.

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It was a joke signature because it also said I loved Chelsea and man u..aha not Gunna happen :)

And yes flyingjesus has pretty much said what u want to say lol.

I understand that if I never manage to reach a salary of 21k+ then in reality, I don't have debt, but it still ponders on your mind.

Does anyone know how much you have to pay back every say month or so to pay back your fees?

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Originally Posted by Dean

I understand that if I never manage to reach a salary of 21k+ then in reality, I don't have debt, but it still ponders on your mind.

Does anyone know how much you have to pay back every say month or so to pay back your fees?

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A small percentage is taken out your salary each month once you reach the £15k threshold, optionally you can pay back more if you have the additional money to but there's no rush to pay it back as the interest rate is very low.

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Originally Posted by Andys

Most will strongly disagree with the violence in the protests and say it is not needed, but to be fair it is.
I'm not one for voilence and fighting, infact I don't really believe they should be being violent over this, but it's the only way the Government will consider listening. Yes, it's all fine having a song and dance about it, but really? The Government will not listen to that, and will just get on with their jobs, whereas these protests are turning heads and grabbing a lot of media attention, therefore it is more likely that the Government will listen.

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Appears to of done nothing so far. Heck, the one before which caused more pointless damage did nothing and they've not changed their mind. Any interview with a Lib Dem MP has revealed they're sticking with the Conservatives.

Although we do not pay as much for University as with other countries, the Liberal Democrats did promose there would be no major changes to the tuition fees which you could say is why they did so well in the polls. If they promised, you cannot blame people for complaining. I think it was Ian Hislop that said the Lib Dems promised this and when the votes were in they must of gone "Ha! ... Oh crap, we're in office :S" If there were no promises involved, then the protests wouldn't have much to argue with. It's why there are such problems.

Well now you all know not to vote for the Conservatives or the Liberal Democrats.. and what about Labour? in 2001 they promised they would not introduce tuition fees and did exactly that - you vote for liars and you will get lies, don't make the same mistake again.

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Well now you all know not to vote for the Conservatives or the Liberal Democrats.. and what about Labour? in 2001 they promised they would not introduce tuition fees and did exactly that - you vote for liars and you will get lies, don't make the same mistake again.

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Who the **** do you suggest we vote for?

UKIP who we can't trust, as they have done nothing to be trusted for - only things that have made them untrustworhy.

BNP who are racists

But fortnuately we have a pirate bay party. Let's give power to them.